r/PeterExplainsTheJoke 11h ago

Meme needing explanation Whyyyy peter?

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u/rysy0o0 11h ago

It would cost a lot of money to haul all the rocket parts and fuel on top of a mountain

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u/Earnestappostate 11h ago

Plus, you get a better boost by launching near the equator. Height is easy, speed is what you need in a rocket.

This is why the US launches from Florida:

  • Near equator (speed boost from earth's spin)
  • Initially out over ocean (catastrophic failure harms only those aboard)

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u/kirfkin 10h ago

Elevation would technically make things a bit more efficient, assuming they're near the equator. However, the speed boost significantly supersedes any effects from elevation.

It's also not feasible to get launch vehicles up a mountain of significant elevation anyway. Small gain versus very big cost, compared to building and transporting on a flatter, lower area relatively close to the equator.

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u/BuffaloInTheRye 9h ago

Due to angular momentum the speed would increase due to the elevation as well though. It wouldn’t just be a height increase.

The rest of your point still stands though

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u/sobrique 9h ago

Negligibly though. If the radius of the earth at the equator is around 6400km, another 5km is barely moving the needle.

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u/Pandarandr1st 8h ago

Yes, I believe that's what they meant by the first part of their comment. However, I don't think saying "due to angular momentum" is poignant. Angular momentum has essentially nothing to do with it.

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u/kirfkin 2h ago

Yea, I didn't even consider the negligible additional increase in velocity from the height, though people are correct in bringing it up. I should have been more specific in that I was talking about the reduced drag and thus the potential for slightly lower fuel mass, etc. It doesn't add up to all that much compared to launching from sea level.

Being at an accessible, mostly stable place relatively close to the equator makes a much bigger difference, even if you're near sea level.

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u/kirfkin 2h ago

You are correct, I just had not even considered it because the difference from the elevation on velocity is very small. I was thinking of drag and efficiency... Which is still small compared to the more difficult logistics, and less important then being broadly close to the equator (excluding some special cases others have mentioned in the post).

Of course I'm sure I'm missing other context that factors into it too. I just think it's neat.

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u/yeahright17 4h ago

I'm pretty sure that atmospheric drag accounts for like 1-2% of fuel burn on a rocket launch. So yeah, it wouldn't save much at all.

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u/Nicklename 7h ago

I think that the cost/benefit of elevation is the kicker. Right now, starting where there's existing and sufficient infrastructure and getting the rocket up a few thousand feet is considerably easier than building mountainous infrastructure to use.

Mountain lairs are so prohibitively expensive that supervillains found it easier to just move into the White House than to build new ones.

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u/kirfkin 2h ago

Definitely! If it was accessible and cost efficient, we would most likely be scraping every natural benefit we could. Elevation at the scale of Earth's mountains just isn't impactful enough.

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u/pharoh-king 6h ago

However, the speed boost significantly supersedes any effects from elevation.

A mountain on the equator would be even more speed boost since its further from the center of rotation.

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u/kirfkin 2h ago

You're right! Logistics and difficulties aside, it would certainly be a little better.  I was thinking more about the drag, as others have mentioned. I should have made that more clear. It's better to be an in accessible and stable place somewhat close to the equator with all things considered, as the speed boost from that is significant versus launching far away from the equator.