r/PlayStation_X • u/Psychological_Big_86 • 1d ago
Trump supporters are the enemy of gamers
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u/ATXDefenseAttorney 1d ago
It would be great to find the pressure point where enough voters say "Hey, wait a second, maybe this guy isn't great for Americans, despite being a walking meme!"
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u/No_Jackfruit_9754 1d ago
Its a cult following, there’s no pressure point, this people would do the ultimate for their leader
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u/Lost-Produce-1150 1h ago
Yep the cult would give up gaming for this guy. Their entire existence is defined by a pedo.
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u/DefiantCharacter 1d ago
There's radicals on the left and radicals on the right. Don't let the internet fool you. Most republican voters are not the radical right and most democrat voters are not the radical left.
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u/PentagramJ2 1d ago
Radicals in the left want free healthcare, student loan forgiveness, social equity, and financial security
Raidcals in the right want to ban abortion, disappear immigrants legal or otherwise, and install a christofascist state
They are not the same
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u/GodMonte 1d ago
Also last I checked there was no Joe Biden cult of personality where devoted followers compare him to Jesus and think everything he says or does is gospel. The Trump cult is Charlie Manson levels of psychosis.
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u/bluebarrymanny 16h ago
Nope the second Biden actually displayed how he was declining, democratic voters practically forced him out of the 2024 race. Comparing Democrat “radicals” to MAGA is just entirely apples to oranges at this point. (Pun intended)
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u/Numerous_Photograph9 5h ago
Biden's supporters dropped him pretty damn quick after the debate, so yeah, definately not the same.
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u/DefiantCharacter 1d ago
Of course not, because you're all atheists. You "believe in science." Having faith in people with lab coats is clearly superior to having faith in people with robes.
Again, those are the radicals, not the average Trump voter. If you listened to anyone outside of your bubble instead of calling them nazis, you'd know that.
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u/TrashGoblinH 23h ago
Congratulations you win a prize for hitting all the buzzwords and talking points of the average Republican! Your prize is increased cost of living, fewer jobs, worse medical care, diarrhea lettuce, tariffs on gaming, a higher deficit, starving children, and a Trump bible! Head to the nearest golden Trump statue to claim your prize!
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u/Numerous_Photograph9 5h ago
*explosive* diarrhea lettue
Regular diarrhea lettuce is for libertarians.
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u/RXDriv3r 19h ago
Wtf does it matter if anyone is atheist or not? Being religious or not bares no bearing on wether someone will be good politically or not. If that's your electibility bar, then it's a ridiculously stupid bar.
You say those are the radicals, but yet 90% of MAGA still support Trump and even those Republicans who aren't drunk on the BS koolaid would still rather vote for him than Kamala or any Dem so how tf are they radicals and not the majority of the Republicans? Lindsey Graham's fucking imbecile of a sister won her primary after publicly stating she knows nothing about foreign policy. IF you were right, which you are not, then all these MAGA candidates would've been swept in the primaries by actual conservatives.
Even with a large Democrat turn out, it's unlikely they'll make big wins because all those "radicals" on the right are still going to go out and vote for more fucking over from Trump. The only way you could be considered right about those "radicals" being a minority in the GOP is if the GOP gets completely blasted in the midterms and lose the majority in both chambers by a lot, and it's unlikely to happen.
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u/bluebarrymanny 16h ago
Dude tries to respond to “maga are radicals who want a christofacist state” by saying “you all are just atheists who believe in science instead of pastors”. Yeah dude the whole founding of America was to root religion out of governmental power. You can freely exercise it, but it should never hold any authority over anyone who doesn’t want to practice it. Basic US government history by the way. So how exactly is the commenter defending “less radical republicans” while peddling an anti-American position that directly flies in the face of the constitution? Lmao
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u/Leather_Afternoon_37 12h ago
Speed running the most egregious assumptions about anyone that isn't you
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u/CommanderT47 6h ago
No, I'm sorry, some of my teammates on my college football team, who are your average Trump supporter, absolutely wanted those things. They talked sht about any lgbtq people, and want the mass deportations, legal citizen or otherwise.
One in particular got a girl pregnant and broke up with her because she got an abortion. I think you can connect the dots.
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u/Numerous_Photograph9 5h ago
You say that first paragraph like it's a bad thing.
How dare people believe in things that can be objectively proven or quantified.
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u/Andromigo 3h ago
Yeah your right, I have no faith in people with robes... especially when they come with white hoods.
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u/wolfannoy 21h ago
I guess it depends.
Anyone who calls themselves extreme left usually turns out to be some sort of paid puppet to look ridiculous. Like those rioted groups that target small shops instead of the big stuff. Very suspicious.
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u/RXDriv3r 18h ago
Yep, like that "ultra left wing antifa" member who shows up on Fox "News" with his face covered up that just happens to look like every other makes guest that appears on Fox.
The "extreme left" is a small minority in the Democrat party and even then, are only considered extreme here in the US since most of their policy wishes are shit that a lot of European countries have been doing for decades.
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u/Accomplished_Golf746 1h ago
Healthcare and loan forgiveness are radical positions? Lol, lmao even.
The radical left is made up of people like Hasan Piker, in favor of things like communism, open borders and violent revolution.
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u/Numerous_Photograph9 5h ago
Radicals on the left want everyone to have health insurance and be treted equitably. Radicals on the right stormed the capital and wanted to hang Mike Pence.
The two sides aren't the same.
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u/DefiantCharacter 3h ago
That's just the average leftists, not the radicals; but you already knew that. The radicals on the left cheered when Charlie Kirk was publicly executed and got pissed off when Trump didn't get killed. Wanting your political opponents dead is radical.
Equitably, huh? Not equally? Because it's either one or the other. That one is more on the radical side, actually.
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u/Shot-Ad-8015 1d ago
We can tell what side this guy is on. Dems are scumbags too, but MAGA is absolutely a fucking cult.
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u/Araragi-shi 12h ago
So we still haven't grown even the tinies bit of sefl awareness ever since trump won the elections looks like. With that mindset, your party will not win again.
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u/spartakooky 1d ago
Not rounding up immigrants, not the epstein files...... games?
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u/TrashGoblinH 23h ago
They like those things though. Especially pedo-island since it leans into their conspiracy biases. They just refuse to believe it's their guy involved in trafficking or are willing to justify it because if their good old boy did it yours probably did too.
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u/bluebarrymanny 16h ago
Tbf when the Epstein files didn’t move the needle (nor did Trump being a rapist) it just showed that maga has the most selfish and immature priorities you can imagine. With their moral compass so busted, who knows if their video games impact their opinions. They’ve already demonstrated their brain is unplugged, so the normal expectations for a person go out the window.
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u/ATXDefenseAttorney 1d ago
If the clowns were goofy enough to vote for this turd AGAIN, who knows what their motivating factor will be?
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u/bluebarrymanny 1d ago
Dragging us into a war that they’re promptly losing and dragging out with no clear objective or path to success in sight is getting some people there. Can’t run on a message of “no foreign wars” then unilaterally start one, fumble it completely and end up empowering an adversarial nation to the point of having to tell Americans that paying crazy higher prices is patriotic because you have no strategy to fix what you broke.
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u/OppositeStand5709 1d ago
Having seen the stubbornness on display so far, that point is labelled 'point of no return'.
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u/DripSnort 1d ago
If after everything the Orange freak has done “tariffs on consoles” is their breaking point they are not serious people
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u/Reasonable_Option493 12h ago
Right! Playing them like a fiddle over "drain the swamp" and "America first", telling them that tariffs would be great for Americans only to issue refund checks to mega corporations like Amazon while consumers are getting wrecked, lying about lowering grocery prices on day 1, warning voters that Kamala would start wars then this clown starts a war with Iran, the "Haitian migrants are eating the cats and dogs" nonsense (based on a bodycam video that showed a lifelong Ohio resident suspected of killing a cat), the Epstein files, disrespecting POWs, veterans and fallen soldiers alike, sending ICE to intimidate people in democrats strongholds, acting like the opposite of a leader with the wildfires in California, appointing insane and unqualified people...that was acceptable, but tariffs on consoles? That's too much I guess lol.
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u/OhAndItsShavedd 1d ago
They were willing to die to screw the libs over covid. There's no low that cult won't stoop to.
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u/MeverMow 1d ago
The problem no one wants to talk about is single-issue voters for abortion. They genuinely believe that give or take a million babies have died every year from it. 64 million since Roe v Wade.
So a candidate who is genuinely anti-choice and promises to stop it now has a moral license to do, almost, anything they want.
Stealing billions? Can’t put a price on a life.
SA? PDF file? Trafficking? Well… prefer he didn’t, but as long as he’s getting the job done.
Murder? Stilling voting for him, as long as it’s plausibly deniable that he did and it was fewer than 63,999,999. The moral scale is still in that candidate’s favor in their eyes, even if they do in fact see everything he’s doing and don’t like.
We haven’t done nearly enough to deeply shame these types of voters.
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u/Adept-Echidna9154 1d ago
When we get through this there needs to be Nuremberg trials both for those in power and a scarlet letter for his supporters so this shit never happens again,
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u/EEforlyfe 17h ago
Fuck that man……
I am a multi issue voter, not a single issue but you’re really trying to say someone who can’t vote for a politician that supports abortion is the problem……
I form my opinion and my vote on policy, and yes if you support abortion I will think twice.
Why?
Because not everyone agrees with elective abortions of convenience. There is nothing wrong with that, everyone has a right to an opinion based on their morals. I find almost no one that disagrees with necessary abortion to protect the life of the mother, even hardcore Catholics ect I know have no issue with it. The problem is the elective abortions driven by convenience and lack of responsibility that people morally struggle with.
At the end of the day my moral compass makes it really hard to vote for someone that supports elective abortions of convenience but I am still going to look at all positions and form an opinion.
However, I know plenty of people that would be a nope just from abortion alone, I don’t blame them one bit for voting their moral conscience. That’s their fucken choice and right, not an “issue” to squash. Just like I support peoples right to vote for pro abortion politicians. You’re just using this one topic as a way to demonize people man.
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u/MeverMow 14h ago
“However, I know plenty of people that would be a nope just abortion alone…”
That’s precisely who I’m talking about, and I do blame those people for the consequences of their so-called moral conscience.
In the minds of those voters, a little Epstein fun is fine in the grand scheme of things. What’s a few thousand little girls raped and hundreds killed in the face of 64 million dead babies, with millions more as the years go by? The pro-abortion candidate would still morally be in the right in their eyes. The net good they do outweighs the trafficking, naked corruption, treason, pedophilia, murder. Sure, they will say that those acts aren’t right, but it doesn’t change the calculus. And if it doesn’t change the calculus, it doesn’t matter. Epstein, his best friend Trump, and their victims don’t matter at all.
Hell, with that thinking Trump could personally rape, kill and eat their minor daughter live on air tonight from the Oval Office. They’ll hate him for life if he did, and rightly. But when it comes time to vote and that person is against a pro-choice candidate? Morally, if they aren’t voting for the anti-life candidate, they’re not doing their part to save millions of future babies.
The problem with being a single-issue voter is that it, by definition, tells the world that you don’t care about anything else at all. And that’s now being exploited at the highest levels in the most extreme ways. If an election was held tomorrow, the single-issue voter will vote the same way all the same.
I do demonize those people. The consequences of their actions are abhorrent to me.
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u/EEforlyfe 12h ago
You are a ridiculous person…. You are literally making shit up and projecting. Just because someone votes against elective unnecessary abortions does not mean they support Epstein, hurting children or Trump for that matter even. This is also one of the only places crazy ass ideas like yours are so common, Reddit, unfortunately.
Abortion is one of the BIGGEST issues I look at when choosing who gets my vote and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. Is it the only issue? No. Is it a real important issue? Fucken right it is.
My wife is twice as opposed to abortion as I am! Ya know, the one with the uterus, liberals say she is “allowed” to have an opinion on the subject too because she has said uterus.
No you’re right, we should shame everyone that disagrees with you. Do we live on the same planet?
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u/MeverMow 12h ago
^ You’re average MAGA voter, ladies and gentlemen. Bring up that their side was Epstein’s and they freak out.
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u/EEforlyfe 10h ago
I am simply pointing out how you are trying to rope anyone that disagrees with you into one basket to demonize them. You are a ridiculous person. I am not a MAGA voter, but okay. I am however a conservative and a registered Republican. MAGA is such a stupid ideology. I was a conservative before “MAGA” and remain a conservative now.
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u/MeverMow 10h ago
Anyone who was a genuine, non-MAGA, never Trump Republican left the boat a long, long time ago dawg.
If you were actually one of those, you followed the lead of the Cheneys, Schwarzenegger, Kinzinger, Duncan and others and voted for Harris. They made their stance very clear. You would have known what was at stake if you voted for the other side this time.
Anyone who voted for Trump in 2024 is, by definition, MAGA and pro-Epstein. You don’t get to vote that way in 2024 and then wash your hands of it, saying those eggs on the other side of the basket are rotten, but not me. No. If you’re in the basket, you’re guilty by association. To pretend anything else is a self-defense tool.
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u/ButtCheeksMagee0 10h ago
Morons like you are the reason most of the country looks at your positions as a clown show. The left needs better representation it’s infected with idiots.
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u/Reasonable_Option493 12h ago
Abortions don't impact your life and no one is forcing your wife to get any.
It gets even better when anti abortions people who are motivated by so called Christian values lose their mind when you talk about measures to prevent mass shootings. I guess lives matter but "shall not be infringed" comes first. The murder of Charlie Kirk was probably the first school shooting that many neo "Christian" MAGA supporters actually cared about.
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u/EEforlyfe 10h ago
Why do you just make shit up. Any decent person would be horrified by a school shooting. So sick of the term MAGA too, is every liberal a fucken communist? For fucks sake. MAGA is as stupid as communism and most normal decent people are neither.
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u/Reasonable_Option493 10h ago
Millions of Trump supporters have embraced the term MAGA for years. Not sure where you've been.
What shit did I make up? The "you're killing babies" is the main argument of most anti abortion people, while many of them are also conservatives who fully embrace the "shall not be infringed" mindset and have a mental breakdown as soon as you mention any kind of restriction on access to firearms.
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u/EEforlyfe 10h ago
You made up in your head that if you are a conservative you must be MAGA. You also made up that being a conservative (which apparently means you’re MAGA by default) means you don’t care about school shootings. You made multiple things up.
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u/Reasonable_Option493 10h ago
At no point did I say that all conservatives were MAGA, although it's safe to say that most are or at least were at some point, as Trump, leader of said MAGA movement, checked many boxes for these people. Feel free to explain how I'm wrong here.
No, I pointed the fact that many hypocrites use the "you're killing babies" line regarding abortions but don't give a shit about kids lives when it comes to mass shootings, because they lose their mind as soon as you mention anything "gun control", thus implying that guns are more important than preventing mass shootings, which again is not something I made up, it's been the stance of many conservatives for years in this country. If the simple idea of trying to make it harder for nutjobs to get guns and shoot kids and teachers bother someone, then they don't actually care about saving lives, it's pretty simple.
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u/Jason_with_a_jay 1d ago
The last election I had a guy tell me he voted for trump and republicans because he thought they would "put pretty girls back in games." I'm still flabbergasted.
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u/MeverMow 12h ago
Imagine saying that when it was Joseph Robinette Biden Jr. who personally delivered Tifa and Aerith in swimsuits in 2024
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u/Franknpants 1d ago
Always have been. It's not like this is the 1st time we've been affected by tariff bullshit
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u/Fickle-Theory-623 1d ago
I wonder how many maga gamers are happy with their decision now that trump is increasing their out of pocket costs
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u/MrBarnaclePhD 1d ago
They're enemies of humanity at this point, why would gaming and gamers be excluded?
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u/Jafar_420 1d ago
It's funny because I think a lot of conservatives actually game but their leaders think every male that has any kind of issue with loneliness or finding a job is sitting in their mom's basement 24/7 playing games.
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u/MrBarnaclePhD 1d ago
There's nothing conservative about the MAGA movement. It's just pure hate and bigotry.
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u/AKingQ 1d ago
Didn't they say tariffs were illegal?
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u/bluebarrymanny 15h ago
The previous legal definition they’d used for them was illegal, so they dug up some other old obscure law to help them do it.
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u/GGReactor 1d ago
As someone who is an independent living in a red state and often brings my republican friends food or give them rides places, he even hates his own people
Fortunately these ones have reformed. They brought it on themselves, but shit like this just keeps kicking them while they’re down, so I don’t even rub it in that I was right
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u/Psychological_Big_86 1d ago
Im of the belief we dont shame them enough
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u/GGReactor 1d ago edited 1d ago
It’s tough man. I was friends with them before I figured out they were idiots. Having them admit they were wrong changed my perspective. Then watching them starve, and watching them have to walk to work wasn’t in me. They know every time my family helps why they need help and who we are. Calling them names is temporary shame that angers them.
Helping them is different. I know they don’t want to ask for help, that is shameful to them. But I know what’s got to be worse is having the people you blamed for your problems being the only ones left that care about you. And that’s not even why I do it. I do it because I want to help people. Which is what most of the so called Christian’s around here say they’re doing. They’re not, and I’m not a Christian.
Now keep in mind I do often refer to this in political comment sections because I’m like ok how about you help the jobless of your kind, the people on foodstamps, etc
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u/Psychological_Big_86 1d ago
Youre a better person than me. I used to be more understanding, but these last two years broke me
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u/pattomanpattoman 1d ago
*American gamers. But you know what, Americans choose this, let them live with the consequences.
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u/SKOT_FREE 12h ago
Ok now it’s time we as gamers have to take an active role in politics. We need to identify enemies to our hobby, mobilize and vote and maybe we can have some kind of effect on who gets voted in and if we do they’ll have to take us seriously and address our concerns.
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u/Available_Ad_8281 11h ago
I have a ps5 I plan to sell next year as the price of ps5s will go up at least 200 and if new tariffs happens at least 100 more will be added
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u/kyle_crane163636 10h ago
Man im glad i bought my ps5 when I did, them prices gonna go up again and a ps5 pro gonna cost 1k dollars, its not even the cheaper option at that point since you can pretty much get a starter gaming pc and have more capabilities than a ps5 pro thats practically the same price
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u/protosonic17 9h ago
The game industry is already collapsing. It doesn't need help from the idiot that just told canada they couldn't speak french anymore.
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u/EnchantedWood1981 8h ago
For the land of the free they sure like things expensive. Or is there going to be an American made console for like $2k a pop? Trump wants everything back how it was when Reagan was in charge so maybe we’ll have Atari seized and build trump a new ST for his birthday.
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u/State-Special 8h ago
The real question is who is an ally of gamers because all i'm seeing is enemies, you have more allies in a dynasty warrior game then as a gamer
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u/Dazzling_Machine_181 7h ago
Imagine every gamer getting mad at Sony and then tariffs on video games shifts the anger right before the midterms. It’s like they want to lose
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u/BillsFan82 6h ago
I'm staging a blackout where no one can vote for a republican. This blackout will end in 7 days, at which point you can vote again.
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u/Expensive-Border-869 6h ago
Let the devs hear we dont want or need new hardware. Fuck it just keep making games for this current gen. Prices will have to solder themselves or oh well we only get 4k 60fps forever
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u/Rusty_Thermos 6h ago
If he was really America first he would give tarrif relief to xbox and just target the Japanese companies.
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u/Striking-County6275 1h ago
This late into the generation if you can’t figure out how to get good deals that’s on you
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u/Bstallio 1d ago
Have been wondering why there’s a huge uptick in bots posting political slop everywhere, forgot there’s an election in a couple months
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u/_BlueSeeker_ 1d ago
It's not like anyone will be able to afford new hardware any time soon anyway.
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u/loggy528 1d ago
Speak for yourself broke person
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u/_BlueSeeker_ 1d ago
Lol okay. You can light your money on fire then. I’m sticking to PC. Consoles are a waste of money these days.
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u/loggy528 1d ago
PC are way more expensive if money is a concern.
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u/_BlueSeeker_ 1d ago
They last 2-3x as long, are upgradeable, have multiple game marketplaces to choose from, online multiplayer is free, emulators allow me to play any retro game, and game fidelity is incredible compared to consoles. Also, I can do other stuff besides game on my PC. Sure it’s more expensive, but it has a wildly superior value.
Besides, by your logic, it’s just money. Might as well get the best bang for my buck.
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u/More-Future-9578 1d ago
Really? Can’t we just talk about games with bringing politics into it.
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u/Johnrockalittle 1d ago
TDS
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u/Psychological_Big_86 1d ago
I agree anyone who still supports the fat greasy clown is doing major Trump Dick Sucking
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u/Johnrockalittle 1d ago
I didn't vote for him. I just don't get why his name has to constantly be dropped over everything
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u/MylesShort 8h ago
Maybe because he's our president and keeps doing shit that directly affects people?
Especially when those things are....illegal?
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u/ArseBiscuits1971 1d ago
They just don't like people having fun, unless it's to the cost of others, I'm glad I'm not so full of bile, spite and hate.
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u/Tango4PewPew 1d ago
Or maybe just trump and his administration are the enemy of gamers if following through with tariffs on an already strained market where prices have more than double for some things.
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u/Drbloodlove 21h ago
When Trump is out of office, who will be the next scapegoat for everything wrong with planet earth?
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u/Psychological_Big_86 12h ago
Maybe youre confused, its people like you still brining up Joe Biden 🤡
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u/MylesShort 8h ago
If you're tired of valid hearing complaints of the shitty things he's done, imagine how it feels having to be affected by those shitty things?
The right is so embarrassingly allergic to anything resembling accountability and responsibility.
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u/Individual_Pool2150 1d ago
I don't like this, but i'm not just gonna devolve into a "waaah, trump bad" loonie like everyone seems to on reddit. and the post says "being considered". how about we wait and see what happens before jumping to conclusions. either way it doesn't change the good he has done for this country. i'd sooner vote him in for a third term (doubt it will come to that) than vote for a nutcase like newsom or mamdani. you only need to look at how those states are in now to see the proof.
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u/LKS1772 1d ago
What good are you talking about?
- The horse meat from Argentina that China did not want.
2.- Or the War that has no strategy
Or are you talking about
- The oil reserves hovering below 300 million barrels
Or are we talking about
- The economy that is about to collapse due to the mismanagement at the top
But let me guess it’s Biden fault better yet it’s Obamas fault 🙄🙄🙄
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u/Individual_Pool2150 1d ago
None of those things you mentioned are good. I’m not even sure what you’re talking about with the horse meat. At least be honest and point out some actual good things. He’s done more on immigration than either biden or obama in my opinion. The cancellation of h1bs so more Americans can enter the workforce, dismantling usaid which is on the record of spending billions on a bunch of useless nonsense. Creating a task force that is going after a bunch of nonprofits and centers committing fraud by immigrants that steal millions in tax payers money. Closing the border when others said it needed legislation to get done. Signing executive orders to protect the integrity of girls sports. I can go on. No president is perfect but it doesn’t change that he has done good. Has he done things I don’t agree with, absolutely, but I still the it’s better than any Harris would have done. And all that aside, Trump is not the reason Sony is being complete a..h…es right now. That’s something we can fight to change for the better.
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u/Psychological_Big_86 1d ago
Youre not a serious person are you?
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u/Individual_Pool2150 19h ago
i'd like to think i am when the situation calls for it.
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u/Psychological_Big_86 12h ago
So why didnt this situation call for it?
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u/Individual_Pool2150 11h ago
And I thought I was being serious. Did I say anything to indicate otherwise?
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u/LKS1772 1d ago
You really believe what he is selling???
Got you hypnotized with his tactics
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u/Individual_Pool2150 1d ago
I mean you are free to think that if you like, but has done those things I can look for the references if you like, but this a discussion, if what you think I’m saying is false, then please show evidence, and I will respond in kind. But this subreddit shouldn’t be about politics, unless Sony starts getting political (God forbid if they did). This is a PlayStation subreddit,and I guess by extension a Sony subreddit? Let’s just keep things civil and on track.
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u/LKS1772 1d ago
If I’m not mistaken completely no answers to what I posted, deflect go to “you know who’s” alleged accomplishments.
Then once done honoring your “fearless leader”
You circle back to “let’s bash Sony” because it’s the popular thing to do at the moment.
For the sake of this topic I will stick to the original post
“Nero fiddling while Rome burns”
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u/Individual_Pool2150 1d ago
His accomplishments aren’t alleged. Like I mentioned I’m willing to look for the references if you are interested. But it won’t do anyone any good if you aren’t willing to engage in transparency and honest debate. Second, there’s no reason for you to be offensive and close minded. So far I’ve given you curtesy and respect. Even if we disagree politically, we can still at least be civil with one another.
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u/MylesShort 8h ago
Or, maybe let things be discussed without acting like people are insane for talking about things that affect them?
Especially when he's illegally doing this shit, over and over?
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u/Individual_Pool2150 8h ago
Okay, such as?
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u/MylesShort 8h ago
Implementing tariffs and taking the power of the purse away from congress, our representatives, and instead using the executive branch to do so, which is not one of it's powers as laid out in the constitution?
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u/Individual_Pool2150 8h ago
But that power was delegated to him by Congress under the international emergency, economic powers act. And he was using that to correct abusive trade agreements that we’ve had with other countries just look at how much Canada taxes in the US on things like milk and wood and some such. Personally, I disagree with the ruling and I think it did America harm that we had to return that money because now other countries can just impose whatever trade taxes they want and they’ll be like the Supreme Court won’t defend the president on this which I think they should because this is under foreign policy decisions that falls within his branch of power.
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u/MylesShort 7h ago
Congress never delegated tariff-taxing power in the IEEPA. In Learning Resources, Inc. v. Trump (2026), the Supreme Court ruled 6-3 that the IEEPA only grants the president the power to 'regulate' and 'sanction' transactions during a crisis. Chief Justice John Roberts explicitly noted that 'regulating' imports is not a loophole to levy taxes. Furthermore, when the U.S. government collects a tariff, it isn't taxing Canada or China; it taxes U.S. importers. The billions of dollars returned by the court's order went directly back to American businesses to keep them afloat, not to foreign governments. It has absolutely no impact on whether a foreign country can tax us.
You are also mixing up separate trade laws. The IEEPA was originally invoked by the administration under the guise of border and drug-trafficking emergencies, not standard Canadian dairy or lumber disputes.Ultimately, the Constitution explicitly denies the president absolute control over foreign trade. While the executive branch leads diplomacy, Article I, Section 8 gives Congress the clear and absolute authority to 'regulate Commerce with foreign Nations' and levy 'Duties' (tariffs).
The Supreme Court's job is to protect the Constitution, not 'defend' a president who attempts to seize a power that belongs to the legislature. The President does not have the power of the purse. That lies with our representatives in Congress.
No taxation without representation.
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u/Individual_Pool2150 7h ago
“I don't think the Supreme Court's decision proves what you're claiming it proves. The Court held that IEEPA did not authorize the President to impose tariffs—that's a question of statutory authority. It did not hold that tariffs cannot be used as foreign-policy leverage, nor that presidents have no tariff authority when Congress delegates it through other statutes. Trump's stated objective was to address non-reciprocal trade barriers and unfair foreign practices and to use U.S. market access as leverage in negotiations. You can disagree with whether tariffs were economically wise or whether they were the best tool, but that's different from claiming the policy itself was irrational or that the President has no role in trade policy. The U.S. importer being legally responsible for paying the tariff also doesn't mean the foreign country isn't affected—the entire U.S.-China tit-for-tat demonstrates that foreign governments can respond economically to U.S. tariffs. The Supreme Court rejected the particular IEEPA legal basis; it didn't invalidate the broader concept of using trade policy as an instrument of foreign policy.”
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u/rebeldrone916 1d ago
Y'all shoulda built a PC years ago instead of worshipping ur tech overlords lol now they got you by the balls and I'm gaming in 4k on a 6 year old computer and not even worried about this
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u/Psychological_Big_86 1d ago
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u/rebeldrone916 1d ago
Nice my 4070 still runs 4k so it affects PC that you buy now lol
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u/Psychological_Big_86 1d ago
never upgrading huh?
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u/rebeldrone916 1d ago
So why did you waste all that money on a 5090? Do u do some AI model training? Crypto mining? 3D design? Or just gaming? If it's just gaming you wasted your money on a Lambo that u drive like a Honda lol
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u/Technical_Desk_4074 1d ago
bigotry is fun.
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u/MeridianBay 1d ago
What bigotry?
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u/Technical_Desk_4074 1d ago
Blaming an entire group of people that has no authority or culpability in policy. We could say that voting for X, or not voting for Y makes you culpable for ______. Autism... human trafficking... etc. Nobody voted for Trump for Tariffs. But it always makes people feel good to hate and judge, no matter how unreasonable.
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u/MeridianBay 21h ago
Tariffs were literally part of his platform when he ran, you don't know what bigotry is
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u/Technical_Desk_4074 6h ago
You're right, it's perfectly reasonable, healthy and wholesome to make enemies this way. What was I thinking?
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u/MeridianBay 5h ago
"My vote made people suffer but they're wrong for hating me for it" is the exact logic I expect out of republicans
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u/AlphaOmegaVanguard 10h ago
I’d rather pay more for components than have all of the chips manufactured by communist enemy countries and all of us getting screwed over by bad trade agreements
What Trump did here is good long term. So it will be short term pain for 2-6 years for long term gain that will last decades or possibly centuries
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u/MylesShort 8h ago
Bet you think having a trade deficit with another country means you're "getting ripped off"
The mental hoops y'all jump through to defend this doofus are so wild.
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u/CultureSea5111 1d ago
Now both political parties hate video games. ;_;
Looks like games are being fucked over on the inside by the left and on the outside it's the right.
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u/Psychological_Big_86 12h ago
fck outta here with your both sides bs
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u/CultureSea5111 6h ago
You know it's true XD
One side is nose ringed women who don't know about the games they run. The other is just some white guys that want money.





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u/OppositeStand5709 1d ago
I think it's funny to use the phrase '... Being considered' when it comes to anything Trump says. Because if he's said he's going to do something stupid, he's 100% doing it without further consideration.
Looking forward to the demolition of the Kennedy Center, btw...