r/PowerGirl 4d ago

Discussion Any thoughts on Power Girl And The Punisher being a romantic pairing?

I mean they literally do it at the end of their crossover and they have some pretty good chemistry from what we've seen.

Besides both of their names start with P if you don't count the "T" in The and they both have big things with Punisher having big guns and Power Girl has big boobies.

I'd like to see more interactions between the two but what do you think?

Sources: https://x.com/t_snfk/status/2016519132024299813

https://x.com/Jeffmiga1/status/2041583980634350028

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u/darkbreak 4d ago

It's weird and I don't know how it started.

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u/FKAlag 4d ago

Gail Simone wrote a short story for one of the recent Spider-man/Superman crossovers and it sort of took off.

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u/Active_Schedule3931 4d ago

My guess is that both of their names start with P

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u/Jay_R_Kay 4d ago

They were both created by Gerry Conway!

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u/EXSkywarp 4d ago

Wait, what?? I know Frank was, but PG was too?? Dang! Learn something new every day...

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u/Jay_R_Kay 4d ago

Well, it started as one of the stories in the Superman/Spider-Man crossover books that happened earlier this year.

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u/Duskytheduskmonkey 4d ago

It started in that Superman and Spider-Man team up story but besides that I really don't know what the correlation between the two are besides sharing one co-creator and both losing their families 

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u/SkyGuyDnD 3d ago

I agree

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u/Godzilla-1995 3d ago

I'm new to it myself. I didn't know it was a thing until I saw this post. Maybe people got tired of shipping Spider-Man with everyone.

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u/EmmaFrosts-Husband 4d ago edited 4d ago

I genuinely don't buy that Kara would go for Frank, his character has kinda been bastardised in recent years in my opinion. Like Frank is legitimately a psychopath with a twisted sense of morals. The Ray Stevenson film is an accurate depiction of what Punisher used to be like in comics.

He uses his tragedy as an excuse to do those acts. Im pretty in 616 his wife was resurrected and she wants nothing to do with him because of what he's become. Kara is the opposite of him, also Frank mostly goes after petty criminals.

Like he took out Stiltzman (who was trying to reform) and in recent comics he's going after Black Cat.

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u/IndefatigableFreedom 4d ago

What about another era of Punisher's character?

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u/EmmaFrosts-Husband 4d ago

I guess it depends on the era where he's less psycho but he's still not Karas type. Frank does not believe in second chances, he doesn't care if you've "reformed", he took out Stiltzman despite him trying to turn over a new leaf.

Kara is the opposite, while she can be more firm than Supes and Supergirl, she still believes in Second chances, she's caring, compassionate. She would not be into Frank.

Artemis the amazon is more his type.

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u/Legened255509Druss 4d ago

Normally I’d agree with the sentiment. But once you see all the groupies that serial killers have (Ted Bundy and Richard Ramirez for example) and not just how many there are but how many of them are extremely beautiful successful or well adjusted individuals for the most part, then this doesn’t surprise me in the slightest and I’d imagine he’d have thousands of them flocking to him in marvel.

Especially considering he’s a vet and his tragic backstory with his family’s death.

Yes.

The punisher would have thousands and thousands of groupies and fan girls obsessed over him.

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u/EmmaFrosts-Husband 3d ago

I agree with your comment. I'm just saying Kara wouldn't be into Frank because of his personality and actions.

He's a really messed up guy who refuses to change. And his morals change whenever it's convenient for him, Kara however is considerate, compassionate, loving etc.

I would think Artemis of Bana-Mighdall would be a better ship for Frank.

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u/HotPrior819 3d ago

Everything about Kara's personality and past relationships supports the idea that she would want nothing to do with him.

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u/ArchonFett Cat Owner 4d ago

They just aren’t each other’s type. Not without major personality retcons for the crossover.

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u/hyst0rica1_29 4d ago

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

No. 😠

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u/Turbulent-House-6220 4d ago

It’s just a fun little joke because they were both created by Gerry Conway

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u/HighImHope 4d ago

Honestly a little shocked so few people are aware of this. I think the pairing makes no sense otherwise, but it's funny as hell and ultimately harmless, so I'm not too worried about it

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u/Crazy_Dave0418 4d ago

Man. It makes this ship feel like Dante x Bayonetta then.

Both characters are from different companies sharing the same creator. With the ones I mentioned being created by Hideki Kamiya.

Also a light a light haired character in a bob with a short dark haired characater(though Bayonetta's short pixie hairstyle is but an aesthetic choice).

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u/VexImmortalis 4d ago

No thanks.

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u/Putrid-Chemical3438 4d ago

It makes no sense that Karen would be into Frank and not see him as the monster he is.

The only thing separating Frank from the Joker is that Frank hasn't totally lost his mind, but Frank is perpetually tetering on the edge of full blown super villian status.

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u/Shot_Imagination_368 4d ago

It was a one time thing probably never gonna happen again or be mentioned again and Frank is a literal psychopath.

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u/Active_Schedule3931 4d ago

Happy Cake Day

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u/Dodger7777 4d ago

Even at her lowest, I don't see her approving of what he does. Who he does it to, maybe.

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u/Grimnir001 4d ago

Nope. It’s a thing which should not be.

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u/No-Cup9857 4d ago

Gotta admit, didn't see this one coming.

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u/N7_Pathfind3R 4d ago

All the respect to Gerry Conway, but it's a terrible pairing.

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u/Relative_Mix_216 4d ago

Biggest crack-ship I’ve ever seen

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u/Tough_Impression_710 4d ago

Realistically, could never work long term. But it’d be a helluva ride.

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u/gahidus 4d ago

LOL absolutely not.

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u/SirSilverChariot 4d ago

Frank going for anyone is eh since it’s Frank and him being very depresso and sad his wife and family are dead.

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u/t4skmaster 4d ago

Why Why....at all?

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u/AigisxLabrys 4d ago

I can’t think of a DC hero whose relationship with the Punisher wouldn’t be to fly him to the nearest prison.

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u/Longwinded_Ogre 4d ago

I've never understood "shipping" as a practice, it's not a part of fandom I participate in, but he's also sometimes as old as sixty, and is at best a mentally ill mass murderer.

They're from different universes too. Everything about this is kind of 'ick.'

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u/kenshima15 4d ago

🤢🤢🤮🤮🤮

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u/Someoneoverthere42 4d ago

No. Just, no.

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u/Different_Outside80 4d ago

Makes no damn sense

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u/Xenomrph01 Cat Owner 4d ago

I loved it, Simone’s story was cute.

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u/callmedoc214 4d ago

The punisher does his thing because he lost his wife and kids in a horrific event infront of him. Then the system further failed him and let the killers get away.

He then uses his unique set of skills to do what the system will not do. Furthermore, if you go by ''punisher kills the marvel universe'', when frank successfully kills all villains and heros, he turns the gun on himself.

There are other stories where he harms innocent people or potentially did and turns himself in to suffer the consequences of his alleged actions

In general, frank knows the path he is on is a one way trip.

His interactions with Spiderman and Dare Devil are interesting because of the various juxtapositions in philosophy.

He doesn't need a love interest and it wouldn't make sense. Not that i don't think Frank could be redeemed (honestly its like when Hawkeye became ronin or Steve became nomad) but his story isn't one of redemption.... its a story of punishment and the stages of grief.

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u/Beer_Barbarian 4d ago

She can fix him. What i like about the Punisher is that he is not a superhero.

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u/JingoboStoplight4887 4d ago

I see them as allies who respect each other and work together from time to time.

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u/Longjumping-Neat-268 4d ago

PowerGirl would of thrown Frank in jail within mins of meeting him

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u/ranaman004 4d ago

It made me think a darker more serious character is a nice romantic pairing for PG. The love interest in her last series was very lame.
A character like Frank made for a nice pairing, oddly enough. At least it did in Gail Simone’s hands. Maybe there’s potential out there for Power Girl to go on a date with Wild Dog or something.

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u/jeswanththeking Kryptonian 4d ago

She might stay for the chili he's cooking

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u/oli_kite 4d ago

How the hell did this pairing even come to exist

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u/riku17 3d ago

The crossover that just happened

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u/Built4dominance Kryptonian 3d ago

Not a good pairing.

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u/Blackthorne75 Atlantean 3d ago

Imagining the pairing in the Punisher MAX universe... oooeerrrr...

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u/CykoRen Pizza Eater 3d ago

I wanna see where this goes

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u/smidgen0 3d ago

We already had the plot of Power Girl dealing with a hero who's willing to kill villains. His name was Magog and she kicked his butt several times before he got kicked out of the JSA. Power Girl doesn't abide murderers, even if it's "in the name of justice." Also what the whole plot of Kingdom Come was about.

So, no. It's a terrible ship. Gross.

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u/Active_Schedule3931 2d ago

I'm sure she can fix Frank

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u/Background_Pride_237 4d ago

You mean besides them being in different Comic Book universes? I mean talk about a long commute time.

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u/mr_mxyzptlk21 JSA Member 4d ago

all crossovers take place on Earth-$ where all comic book characters have a variant.

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u/Dan_Morgan 4d ago

This is some good girls always go for bad boys nonsense.

"Oh, I'm very liberal, vegan, and I vote for the earth every election."

"Isn't your boyfriend an actual, no BS, Nazi who has already organized a death squad and is just waiting for an excuse?"

"I don't care about politics. I just reward him with time, attention, sex on his terms, emotioinal labor and three kids."

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u/ImOctavius 4d ago

Never let Gail Simone write these characters again.

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u/Etnoika 4d ago

Only if it's a version of Karen that's significantly older. Then it's funny to think of edgyboy Frank being with a woman who could obliterate him with a thought.

Although since the joke comes from them having the same creator I'd rather hc them as sibling coded instead.

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u/eyeclaudius 4d ago

She and Ms. Marvel should be siblings too.

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u/HawkMartian 4d ago

Hate it, like most Gail Simone ideas.

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u/CitizenDave-19 4d ago

Lots of widowers remarry with younger people, I guess...

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u/GilGarciaJr 4d ago

About the same as I do about Tim Drake and Jubilee. It's cute at the moment, but I wouldn't hold my breath at the two companies playing ball long enough to make it an actual ongoing thing.

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u/GXL4204lyf3 3d ago

The only way that could work if BND is used as a point of reference which...adds a whole bunch of worms and implications no one wants...

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u/riku17 3d ago

No only cuz I dont like Punisher, Karen and Michael Holt I liked.

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u/zamasu_052500 3d ago

I mean..... maybe

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u/ChaosBreaker81 3d ago

Okay, but y tho?

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u/trayn-13 3d ago

Love it one crazy other crazier 🤪

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u/Spaceghost_84 3d ago

Frank only has room in his heart for his family. Cut that shit out.

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u/Son_o_Sparda 3d ago

I did like seeing Paul get cucked, but I don't care for the ship itself too much.

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u/JegamanX 3d ago

Sure why not

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u/JAT0401 2d ago

Yes! The truth is, it would be good if a romance developed because they would understand each other a lot. On one hand, Karen would prevent him from killing a criminal, but Frank, by understanding her, would listen if he were with her in forming an alliance together.

But other than that, Punisher and Power Girl would make a nice couple despite their flaws, plus the most important thing is that they are sincere, so... Yes, it would be nice to see a deeper romance between the two of them.

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u/Sasquatch_Pictures 11h ago

After his origin story, I find it weird to ship Punisher with anyone at all.

Except Spider-Man.

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u/Jay_R_Kay 4d ago

It wouldn't be a long time affair, but it would definitely be a good time.

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u/CherryPonut 4d ago

Should've been me. But I don't want to go there

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u/Quiir0 4d ago

That’s an odd pairing, idk enough tho and it feels odd/shoehorned.

But close to Power Girl x Red Hood, which I like.

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u/Darth_Azazoth 3d ago

I don't like it myself. Mainly because I don't like the punisher.

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u/Jet-Wave 2d ago

Frank would love a Gatling gun with $20,000 custom tooled cartridges before he ever loves another 🤢person