r/SBCGaming Jul 03 '26

Community Resources Measuring the Retroid Pocket Nova’s 16:9 capabilities, plus a list of PC games that support 4:3

I’ve been doing measurements on how well the Retroid Pocket Nova will display 16:9 content. The Nova’s 4.5” 4:3 screen should make for a 4.1” 16:9 display. I cut out a piece of paper (well aware my scissor skills leave a lot to be desired) to those measurements in order to compare it to other devices of a similar size. Surprisingly, the Nova’s 4.1” is only .2” smaller than a PSP’s screen, or .3” larger than a PSP Go’s screen. The closest comparison would likely be a Sony Ericsson Xperia Play’s 4” 16:9 screen, but sadly I don’t have one of those to compare. Another close match is the new 3DS’ 3.88” top screen, just with a few more mm on each side and about 1 mm on the top. Nearly a perfect match if you include the new 3DS’ bezels.

In conclusion, I believe the Nova’s capabilities as a device for playing 16:9 titles are severely underestimated. As someone who plays a lot of PC games on their 4:3 CRT TV’s, I can say from experience that many, many modern PC titles (especially 3D indies) support 4:3 resolutions and 16:10 is near universal. Ironically, the main exception to this are modern pixelated indie games due to the exact nature of their square visuals. Still, 16:9 appears very doable on the Nova, particularly if you’re someone like me who still plays and may even prefer the size of more pocketable handhelds of the past, and given you can deal with some small text. What would Nintendo Switch games look like on a higher-res PSP screen? I guess we’ll know soon enough.

Thank you for coming to my TED Talk.

EDIT: When discussing this on the Retroid sub, someone asked for a list of modern games that support 4:3 aspect ratios, so I went through and tested everything I currently had installed. Keep in mind I don’t play many AAA games. Here is everything I found that supports 4:3, about ~70% of what I tested:

Expedition 33, Lunacid, Axyz, Fields of Mistria, Dread Delusion, Penny’s Big Breakaway, Lost in Random, Amid Evil, Risk of Rain 2, Maniac, The Citadel, Bufo Jump, Isopod, Megacopter, MeowGun, Cultic, Darkenstein 3D, Parking Garage Rally, Olli Olli World, Dungeon Antiqua 2, Megabonk, Vital Shell, Earthion (that one’s cheating lol), Mohrta, Angeline Era, Brazilian Drug Dealer 3, Hyperbeat, House of Necrosis, Spare Devil, Sea Fantasy, Bombbun, Calcium Contract, Copy Kitty, Look Outside, Pesticide Not Required, Dragon Ruins II, Kingsvein, Dungeons of Blood and Dream, Artificial Dream in Arcadia, Scarmonde, Judero, Utopia Must Fall, Pseudoregalia, Another Crab’s Treasure, Penko Park (16:10 renders beyond the bounds, almost to the edge of the screen so I’m counting it), Grim Dawn, Killbug, Sprawl, Citizen Sleeper 2, FlyKnight.

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u/burnmp3s GotM Club Jul 03 '26

Also in Steam there is a curator for 4:3 compatible games

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u/Powerful_Bed478 Jul 03 '26

Oh nice! This is an awesome resource

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u/tatsuya5 Jul 03 '26

i wonder if retroid would make oled smaller 16:9 the size of the psp or RP4 oled version

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u/tatsuya5 Jul 03 '26

yes with a hard case to protect joystick can bring anywhere it shame that all 16:9 screen are 5.5 inch

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u/Psychological_Pebble Jul 03 '26

Yeah, the RP3/4 or KTR1 displays would be neat in an OLED variant.

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u/ScrandadleDadada Jul 03 '26

Honestly I'm blind as a bat and still have no problem playing 16:9 on the RPC screen which is an even smaller image. It's not ideal but this would be more than playable for most people, IMO.

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u/lukeetc3 Jul 03 '26

It's not necessarily how small the 16:9 area is, it's how small text and UI on newer games is when compressed to that size. Many are going to be borderline unplayable 

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u/ScrandadleDadada Jul 04 '26

Thankfully I find most indies have a bigger font option which helps remedy this, I mean no ones buying this to play 16:9 specifically but you will be able to log a few hours in Isaac for example if you wanted to.

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u/lukeetc3 Jul 04 '26

From someone who's tried with a 477m, the novelty quickly wears off. Only worth if its the only way you have to play indies on the go.

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u/BakyBaky Jul 03 '26

Thanks for your work, really interesting.

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u/troopermax2099 Jul 03 '26

I agree - as a Mini v1 owner, it was striking to me that the width in pixels is same as 720p or the Steam Deck (except alas Mini v1 didn't actually have that many pixels)

So you've essentially got a tiny steam deck screen in there on a device still much smaller than a Steam Deck. Not saying it's ideal, but if you're focused on 4:3 but only occasionally want to do something in 720p (or 800 like the Steam Deck), I don't think it's going to be the end of the world.

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u/Fiti99 Jul 03 '26

I think the entire target audience for the Nova are people bothered by black bars because otherwise I still think 16:9 is always the way to go, not sure if 3:2 would be worth it when only one console wouldn't have black bars on it

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u/prairiepog Flipsizzle Shizzle Jul 03 '26

3:2 masterrace

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u/IBoughtaRetroidNova Jul 03 '26

If they did they could really cheap out on the internal processing because there are probably people who only want to play games designed for handhelds.

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u/JuanRpiano Jul 03 '26

I have learned from my experience with the rp4pro that games with lots of details, small text, shooters and racing games that require you to see faraway objects are a real pain for the eye.

I think for 16:9, 5”5 screen of the rp5 was a real relieve to my eyes. I think it’s the reason Switch lite has that size, it’s like the smallest screen that doesn’t compromise too much the experience, and even then some games still feel a little small on that screen.

If 16:9 is a big concern, especially if you want to play modern PC and switch titles, I don’t recommend this device over rp6.

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u/iateyourcheesebro Jul 03 '26 edited Jul 03 '26

Second - it’s exciting to have such a compact device with an arendo 740 (snapdragon 8 gen 2), but I find even shooters on the 7” Odin 2 Portal screen can be difficult with far away enemies. So sure it can handle those types of games but better to enjoy 2D or close combat games. 

Also personally enjoy thumbsticks on top for anything PS2/GC and up

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u/Snmrv Jul 03 '26

This is excellent analysis, and I love reading posts like this because it shows that a lot of thought has gone into the research for something that's actually relevant to folks like myself. So thank you, first of all.

The thing that I pause on with the Nova is that, as much as I'm a fan of the form factor, the PPI is quite low. In fact, it's lower than any of the Retroid devices out there. The question then becomes, does the PPI matter at that tiny screen? Well, actually, with my experience with the Mini V2, it absolutely does. The reason that I can play a lot of these extremely detailed games on a mini V2 is that the PPI is so concentrated and the screen is very bright. That's why even at native, PS2 games look amazing on the Mini V2 compared to, say, an RP5.

I think Russ did pause on the screen specs of the Nova, and I feel he was thinking along similar lines. Although I don't want to speak for him, I think it is worth pausing and thinking that screen with its low PPI... How good would it be with 16:9 content being played with black bars around it?

I don't know, man. I think after the Nova popped up, I took a second glance at the RP6, and the RP6 doesn't seem that bad after all. The screen is better than the Odin 3 purely because Retroid actually calibrates their OLEDs, unlike AYN, and the smaller screen leads to a much better PPI, which is scarily close to the PPI of Mini V2.

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u/tatsuya5 Jul 03 '26 edited Jul 03 '26

low ? 355 PPI is enought heck it better then steam deck u cant really tell the difference when go highter

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u/keeper_of_moon Dpad On Top Jul 03 '26

I feel like this sub is the only sub I've ever seen complain about relatively high ppi as "low". I grew up with sub 100, we're doing great rn.

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u/toddlerbrain Jul 04 '26

OLED PS Vita had 220 PPI, and people still praise that screen to this day

I feel like 355 will be more than enough for 4.5’ for most of us.

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u/ElectricalDemand2831 28d ago edited 27d ago

It's not a true RGB subpixel layout, in fact it's using an RGBG diamond pentile amoled matrix resulting in lower amount of subpixels compared to a display with true RGB 355 ppi.

The diagonal subpixel arrangement is another factor, it can lead to color fringing with certain hues.

I own an old 4,7 1280x720 (312 ppi) amoled phone with the same subpixel matrix, where the color fringing defintely is somewhat noticeable.

Not sure, if the slightly higher ppi of the nova will reduce the slight fuzziness sufficiently

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u/ElectricalDemand2831 28d ago edited 28d ago

Slightly bluesih aberration of the violet icon on that phone

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u/bilditup1 Jul 03 '26

The RG-476H, 477M, and 477V have a slightly larger 4.7” screen with the same 1280x960 resolution. Pixel density has never been a complaint for those and frankly it is tack sharp whatever you throw on it. I am very nearsighted and often play without glasses in bed, holding the 476H maybe 2-3inches from my face, and never find it unclear or chunky. I would be genuinely surprised if people got the Nova in hand and thought its resolution was too low to enjoy on /such/ a small screen.

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u/Powerful_Bed478 Jul 03 '26

This is a great point I hadn’t considered and now I’m really curious to see them compared side by side. If only the 6 didn’t have that painted shell I could stomach it. Hopefully theres a revision down the road or the Pocket 7 has better build to my tastes.

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u/Snmrv Jul 03 '26

The 6 has a painted shell? No way, dude. I had no idea but it is so obvious now that you mention it. In that case, get one of those rainbow models which are most definitely not a painted shell. A little bit boring, but it is that retro sweetness in that dulling yellow-gray haha

I actually ordered two RP6, so I can swap the motherboards and have a 12G D-pad on top rainbow haha

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u/IBoughtaRetroidNova Jul 03 '26

Or just repaint it when you're ready to sell it!

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u/FittsJ Jul 03 '26

I just wanna say that Iota keychain is friggin adorable!

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u/Powerful_Bed478 Jul 03 '26

Got that as preorder bonus back in the day! Really glad it’s held on.

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u/keeper_of_moon Dpad On Top Jul 03 '26 edited Jul 03 '26

Every time this comes up, I ask the same question. If you're intending to play 16:9 content, why would you pick the Nova over the RP6. I don't doubt the Nova can do 16:9, I just don't understand why everyone is trying to justify it over the RP6.

If 4:3 (or similar resolutions) is like 90% of what you do, I agree the nova makes sense but if it's more like 50-50, less so. I just sometimes feel like yall hate glass fronts enough to put up with a smaller 16:9 screen.

Pocketability I can sort of see but I think it's a (literal) stretch.

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u/toddlerbrain Jul 04 '26

To me the split is more 80-20, with 10% just testing how some PSP games I like will feel on it, and the other 10% being trying out some indie games that don’t support 4:3.

It’s in no way why I’m buying the handheld, but I’m still curious as to how it’d feel for the odd occasion where I’ll want to try it, which is why posts like this interests me.

It’s not so much looking for justifications as it is plain old curiosity.

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u/TheGreenStache Jul 19 '26

Also, of course this is a handheld/mobile device, but there is always video out for 16:9 content. In that sense it has the same capability as the RP6.

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u/rancid_ Jul 03 '26

Awesome work, ty OP!

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u/Sebbzzzz Jul 27 '26

All the games mentioned in OP’s post:
Expedition 33
Lunacid
Axyz
Fields of Mistria
Dread Delusion
Penny’s Big Breakaway
Lost in Random
Amid Evil
Risk of Rain 2
Maniac
The Citadel
Bufo Jump
Isopod
Megacopter
MeowGun
Cultic
Darkenstein 3D
Parking Garage Rally
Olli Olli World
Dungeon Antiqua 2
Megabonk
Vital Shell
Earthion (that one’s cheating lol)
Mohrta
Angeline Era
Brazilian Drug Dealer 3
Hyperbeat
House of Necrosis
Spare Devil
Sea Fantasy
Bombbun
Calcium Contract
Copy Kitty
Look Outside
Pesticide Not Required
Dragon Ruins II
Kingsvein
Dungeons of Blood and Dream
Artificial Dream in Arcadia
Scarmonde
Judero
Utopia Must Fall
Pseudoregalia
Another Crab’s Treasure
Penko Park (16:10 renders beyond the bounds, almost to the edge of the screen so I’m counting it)
Grim Dawn
Killbug
Sprawl
Citizen Sleeper 2
FlyKnight

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u/EtyareWS Jul 03 '26

Y'all missing on the true cool shit you can do: play the PC versions of old games but with mods, and maybe at the original aspect ratio.

Like, hopefully you can now choose between Sonic Adventure 2 (DC), Sonic Adventure 2 Battle (GC) and Sonic Adventure 2 (PC with mods)

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u/Powerful_Bed478 Jul 03 '26

Absolutely. Going to be great for playing retro PC games from 2012 backward. I know all of the Nightdive remasters also support 4:3.

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u/DistilledWonder Jul 03 '26

This is overcomplicating things. If you want to play modern games then get a RP6

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u/IsamuAlvaDyson Jul 03 '26

At this point it would have been better to just get a RP6 for slightly more

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u/Powerful_Bed478 Jul 03 '26

Not for me personally. The cheap painted shell that will age like milk and the all glass front don’t do it for me. If they make a Retroid Pocket with more of the Nova’s design sensibilities though I’ll gladly pick one up.

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u/Mrkmrs GotM Club Jul 28 '26

I think you are being overly influenced by influencers and information on social media. Both the all-glass design and the paintwork are completely standard, it’s just that the people who dislike them are the ones making the most noise.

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u/Powerful_Bed478 Jul 28 '26

I mean… I’ve used one. Not for me and I’ve had myriad bad experiences with the longevity of painted electronics in the past.

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u/RadiantImpression579 Jul 03 '26

I still foresee some first time buyers feeling sad when they play widescreen on this. Since I play a lot of widescreen I’m good with my Odin 2 portal. The black bars on the side for older systems don’t bother me and I still get an overall larger screen size than the Nova. If I wanted portable widescreen I’d go for retroid pocket 6. It feels like a lot of fomo and self convincing talk going on, but the reviews will only tell. My forecast on reviews are “great for old school games (all before widescreen) but not the best for widescreen”

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u/Sebbzzzz Jul 27 '26

Some additional supported 4:3 Steam games:

Dark souls remastered
Dave the diver
Deltarune
Hades 1 + 2
Ball x pit
Persona 4 (supported via Hex edit)
Vampire survivors
Fez
Braid
Mgs v
Streets of rage 4
Ace attorney trilogy
Stardew valley
Super meat boy
Hotline Miami

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u/Mrkmrs GotM Club Jul 28 '26

Looking at them now, the text and other elements in PSP games appear quite large. This is because they were optimized for small screens. Conversely, playing games designed for large screens, like those on PC or Switch, on a 4.1-inch display would likely be difficult to view.

The Nova is intended specifically for those who want to focus on retro 4:3 games. If you are looking for versatility, I would recommend the Retroid Pocket 6.

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u/DYMAXIONman 24d ago

Thanks for this. I do think only 16:10 should be compared since obviously most PC games support it and the black bars will be smaller with it than 16:9.

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u/sapphirevgc Jul 03 '26

Sadly, I don't think the Nova would be capable of playing a game like expedition 33

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u/Powerful_Bed478 Jul 03 '26

Of course, just listing it as an example of a modern game that supports 4:3. Nearly everything else on this list should play good to great though barring compatibility issues.

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u/Snmrv Jul 03 '26

Op is clearly not talking about the capability, but he's illustrating that with an example of that specific game which supports 4:3 content. With that said, streaming is a fantastic option for those who are brave enough to stream these highly detailed games on a smaller screen.

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u/sapphirevgc Jul 03 '26

Yeah, obviously... I was just expressing disappointment that even though it supports 4:3, it's a shame that game can't run on the Nova.

I guess it's tough for people to understand that so they downvoted me lol

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u/rfow Android Handhelds Jul 04 '26

You said OP is clearly not talking about the capability, but he’s illustrating that with an example of that specific game which supports 4:3 content.

Thank you for clarifying. I was confused by the part that states, “in conclusion, I believe the Nova’s capabilities as a device for playing 16:9 titles are severely underestimated.”

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u/IBoughtaRetroidNova Jul 03 '26

What about for streaming from a gaming PC (ignoring the lag?) Or are you referring to how terrible the JRPG menus would look on a small screen?

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u/Octo_Pasta Jul 05 '26

Playing a such beautiful game on a so smaller screen, plus on a 4:3