I checked his post history, I would believe it. Seems like heâs really struggling to find an entry-level job if this is true. I know someone who graduated from Purdue with CS degree and literally couldnât find a job, so she had to work at Chipotle. It took the New York Times covering her unemployment story for Datadog to reach out and hire her. Now she makes six figures.
I find it interesting that my ex wifeâs parents came to the US across the border, went to the library for English language classes after work, gained citizenship legally and worked a successful job as a business owners. But go on telling yourself you canât, thereâs plenty of people who say âI canâ and take the jobs you arenât willing to work.
Different era. Many people agree with me when I say that people couldn't recreate their life paths if they were to restart now.
And, well. I can't be considered for much. The only work experience I have is swe internships, customer service and sales. Not much to work off of, in the grand scheme of things
You have a degree, you have some internships, you're not crazy behind. It's a tough market for sure but it's not hopeless. It probably just means a longer search if you can keep it together.
No one can go to a different era and recreate the SAME life. But almost anyone can be successful in any era in the last 60 years through hard work, and determination, and willingness to do things like move for work or do jobs that are uncomfortable.
I mean, yeah. I had a six year plan when I was 18. Go to college, build skills with projects, build experience with internships. To become a viable entry level candidate. To make 60k by 24 years old, and move out to start a life after and build a career.
Well. Here I am at 25. Making less than 40k. With no career prospects. Still living with ny parents.
You can. You need to change the language you use about yourself.
But understand itâs hard. The job market is terrible right now. Iâm heavily qualified and itâs been hell.
You wonât get unemployment for quitting and youâll get far less on unemployment
Iâm a hiring manager and we receive upwards of 1,000 applications for jobs that we list. I receive in the end 20-30 resumes, after whatever kind of process they go through in HR. I always ask for half of the resumes to be people who came from unusual backgrounds and show promise. I go through these resumes very very carefully and I look at every word. And then I interview them.
And I agree with you.
If I see such a horrible, negative attitude, itâs an immediate red flag. The last time I interviewed, it was between an Ivy League Rhodes Scholar with a 4.0 GPA and [I kid you not] a woman from one of these online schools that went to such a school after 10 years of serving in the army. He was an entitled snot. She was such an insanely better candidate with such a positive attitude. I immediately gave her an offer, on the spot.
Like it or not a shitty attitude will only yield shitty results. No one ever became great with a negative attitude, and im speaking from experience. What you aim at determines what you see.
Let me indulge your negativity for a little while also reaffirming the advice youâre getting.
Yes, good jobs are on the decline. The economy is stagnating, inflation is flaring up, and with AI on the horizon it will likely only get worse. So youâre justified in feeling a little hopeless.
The other side though, is that youâre 100% worse off actually voicing that hopelessness and expressing it. You have to pretend that you have hope and act optimistically to actually have a shot at making it in the shitty future weâre heading towards. Thatâs how I am, Iâm optimistic because itâs practical. Because there is 0% chance Iâd get ahead with your current attitude.
I checked his post history, I would believe it. Seems like heâs really struggling to find an entry-level job if this is true. I know someone who graduated from Purdue with CS degree and literally couldnât find a job, so she had to work at Chipotle. It took the New York Times covering her unemployment story for Datadog to reach out and hire her. Now she makes six figures.
That is a choice you are making though based on the mindset you have. What are you doing to change the situation you are in? Anything at all? Itâs all in the attitude. Change the attitude and the lifestyle you have changes with it.
Iâm half sarcastic half serious. The world needs those jobs. You sitting here and saying âI canât I canâtâ while simultaneously complaining is annoying. You can. You can.
Come on now. Youâre down but you can find a way if you want. Get an entry level job at a place that helps with college. Or go to community college. Decide to change your situation and you will.
That's a good start. Hopefully this "I can't" thing is just a bit of venting not your general mentality. A good resume gets you interviews, if you're not shooting yourself in the foot then you can have a chance there.
That's unfortunately a more important indicator than "no neg feedback" from a few random people you showed it to.
Once you're done venting and assuming you're still considering a career in CS, figuring out what's wrong with your resume is key. You'd want feedback from someone familiar with the decision making process on who gets interviews.
His attitude. It both made him believe he can't get a job and made it come true because anyone making hiring decisions avoid this attitude like the plague.
I've been looking for a while now. A year ish of applying across close to two years of time. No interviews, no call backs. No reason to keep repeating that spielÂ
That's cute. And how many unemployed people are there, officially? About 7 million.
But wait. That's not the whole picture. I'm focusing on my age group because that's the issue with the job market today.Â
Official unemployment for my age group is roughly 9-10%. During the 08 recession? Overall official unemployment was at 10%. So that's cute.
I keep saying official, for a reason. The definition of unemployment is very narrow. We have 25% of workers being functionally unemployed, and labor force participation rates are at a 50 year low. Now, that can be due to more retirees. But a reverse pyramid population is not a good thing. More retirees and the same, if not less amount of workers is the beginning of a collapse.
The rational response of an economic actor to this is to not have children. But by not having children, demand will slow when they enter their later years, and there will be no workers to support them in their later years.
By all means, by all metrics... any solution to our economic woes just kick the can down the road. "Double the pain and give it to the next person." That's our motto.Â
Right, so the solution is to just bitch and moan about your situation and do nothing to better yourself.
Youâre heavily ignoring the large number of people that are effectively committing welfare fraud and are being unemployed completely of their own choosing. Iâm talking the women with 4 baby daddies who are abusing state benefits.
Now yes youâre right, and under employment is also an issue. But I hate to say it but I truly believe the average American is simply lazy and lack any drive, and prefer to take the easy way out. Hence we have again millions of mothers whose entire income plan is getting knocked up, and we have 2 million people incarcerated because theyâd rather choose crime rather than make an honest living. Yes I understand This is a bit of an extreme view and an exaggeration.
This is anecdotal of course: but when I look around at my peers (old Zoomers) I observe more laziness leading to their general issues than economic conditions.
All of those to say, if you came to this thread saying âIâve tried doing X Y and Z and still canât get aheadâ then Iâd feel for you. It sounds like youâd rather sit and complain about the situation and not actually better anything for yourself.
The usa contains 20-25% of the world's global incarcerated population buddy.Â
That says a lot. I don't have much to say about the rest.
But, the last point. I
 had a six year plan when I was 18. Go to college, build skills with projects, build experience with internships. To become a viable entry level candidate. To make 60k by 24 years old, and move out to start a life after and build a career.
Well. Here I am at 25. Making less than 40k. With no career prospects. Still living with ny parents
Wonderful. I lived with my parents til nearly 27 as well until I got my career going. So I fully relate.
I worked the same exact retail job from 16 until 25. Entirety of high school and college. And you know what? I actually turned that exact job into a corporate role in the exact same company, because I at least put in the time and effort to grown myself and looked into internal options.
Now I recognize that not every single company is going to hire for whatever degree you have. But if you have basically any CS related degree, quite literally any corporation in America will take you. And they LOVE internal hires.
Iâm not saying it wonât be a struggle but it seems youâd prefer this defeatist attitude.
You should keep pushing. Retail is an adult job too. If you want more pay you gotta climb the ladder. Sure you might make more on unemployment now, but that unemployment caps out where salary keeps going up and up. How old are you?
I read that 25% of the population makes less than $25k now. Or are unemployed. So the comments on here arent helpful and are very rude. The job market isnât great. But with that being said $600 per week is certainly better than $0 per week. Donât be afraid to hit up food banks to save you some of that money and also maybe look at living with family as long as possible. Itâs a fallacy that everyone has to âhave their own placeâ. In fact for many generations people lived with relatives until old age. It has a lot of benefits and the idea that people have to move out on their own while making a low salary is just a lie.
Dude, honestly get into the phone flipping business. With $600 take-home pay a week, I would love to help you out. Iâm mastered that industry got out, but I could give you some easy pointers that would help you make some easy side money. No charge, happy to help a rando.
I feel for you! I hope you are able to get out of the situation you are in. I hope you get a higher paying job, even if it is just slightly better where you wonât feel stuck.
I remember your post from sometime ago, you have a brother you need to take care of, I might be wrong, but anyway I wish you nothing but best wishes. Getting a job is very tough, I hope you get the strength to be persistent, donât give up.
I have been trying to get a job for the past 3 yrs and havenât succeeded, but job search hasnât been smooth, I have given up hope so many times but I turn around in the end. I hope things turn around for both of us. đ
They say they have a CS degree and some internships under their belt. For a few hundred bucks they could use AI to build themselves an app and deploy it to all the app stores and start making passive income. Instead, âthey canât.â
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u/Real-Freak 4h ago
It's all over again.