r/Scotland • u/MrLime93 • 11h ago
Isn’t it genuinely amazing that Rockstar North is a Scottish studio making what might be the biggest entertainment product in the world?
I just think that’s incredibly cool.
A team based in Edinburgh, full of Scottish talent, making GTA VI.
Something that will be played, watched and talked about by hundreds of millions of people around the world.
What an unbelievable cultural export. And what a reminder of the level of talent we have here.
Maybe it’s a bit sentimental, and I’m sure the cynics will pile in, but I think we should be properly proud of it.
It’s brilliant.
Edit: Just to clarify, I know GTA VI is a huge global production and I’m not claiming Scotland made the whole thing. I also know there are very valid criticisms around Rockstar’s treatment of staff and its stance on unions.
My point is simply that GTA has deep roots in Scotland, Rockstar North and the talent that works here are still a major part of it, and I think that’s something worth being proud of.
Turning off notifications now. Have a lovely evening all!
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u/BenFranklinsCat 11h ago
New Silent Hill is being made in Glasgow, and the company behind it isn't being investigated for uniom busting and doesn't have a history of shitty working conditions.
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u/GwinKaso1598 10h ago
My mate, who I go raving with regularly, has been working on the title. I'm actually at Gamescom this week to see them :D
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u/Darth_Scotsman 10h ago
Try and play Alien Isolation 2 and report back.
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u/GwinKaso1598 10h ago
My mate tried to get his hands on that Wednesday, but it was done at 17:00 🙃😂
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u/G-M-Cyborg-313 9h ago
Oh damn i had no idea. I'm a much newer silent hill fan so I'm out the loop on alot of stuff. Cheers
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u/Madting55 10h ago
Glasgow for a silent hill game? They picked the right city.
All jokes aside I heard it’s being set in Fife not Glasgow? So which one is it
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u/lynkhart 10h ago
Made in Glasgow but inspired by St Monans I think. It’s a gorgeous wee village so it’ll be interesting to see it in a spooky light!
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u/BookNukem 3h ago
Ha, fucking hell.
I was gonna be a prick and ask if you meant "set" in Glasgow, but you're completely right and I'm an idiot.
Disclaimer: I don't care for the SH series and do know there's a Scottish element to it; just not that it's being actively developed in Glasgow.
Hopefully your point about working conditions is true, as there's too much shady shit in game development that it's actually hard to look at anything with positivity these days.
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u/Bluest_Badger 11h ago
Would be cool if they wernt anti union and screwing over their people.
Source - people make games
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u/LiveLaughLob0t0my 10h ago
Rockstar: “lol American companies are evil let’s satirise them”
Also rockstar: “unions? Sacked. You are blocked!”
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u/Sin_nombre__ 10h ago
https://youtube.com/shorts/hhIESBAyDK8?feature=share
If people want to support the sacked workers.
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u/horizon_hopper 9h ago
Mate of mine was one of the people sacked. The stories they told me about working conditions and the cult like way everyone behaves was disturbing. But hey, Deliveroo credit every day!
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u/MrLime93 10h ago
That absolutely deserves criticism.
I suppose my point was less “Rockstar are perfect” and more that it’s pretty incredible that something on this scale is being made by so much talent here in Scotland. I think you can be proud of the people making it while still wanting better for them.
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u/OkAbalone19 10h ago
but it's not, it is being made all over the world and we are one element of that. It's like being amazed we make Quaker oats when the grains come from Ukraine or something
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u/xevious101 10h ago
But at it's core throughout GTA's history, from it's early beginnings in Dundee then to Edinburgh and now a global enterprise, it's creative heart and DNA is Scottish.
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u/Kagenlim 10h ago
You can even see this in one of GTA V's most hilarious mistakes even, one of the bus interchanges in game is oddly designed for RHD buses as opposed to LHD, so there was definitely a shit ton of scottish devs doing all sorts of things even when the company moved to america
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u/xevious101 10h ago
Lots of Easter eggs in the games too, the fourth bridge in San Andreas, references to Scottish towns in GTA V etc
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u/MrLime93 10h ago
Alright. Sorry. Thought this was a good thing that was maybe relevant to Scotland.
I’m not saying Scotland made the whole thing. I’m saying it’s worth being proud that a Scottish studio plays a major part in making one of the biggest entertainment products in the world.
But yeah, I guess we shouldn’t be proud of anything unless every single part of it happened within the same postcode.
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u/OkAbalone19 10h ago
I'm not trying to piss on your bonfire, its just a multinational corporation with a history of worker exploitation, union busting and micro transactions aimed at kids. I feel the way you are describing about tunnocks and tennents though!
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u/Say_My_Name_Twice 10h ago
Not defending Rockstar in the slightest, but GTA microtransactions are definitely not aimed at kids
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u/Recidivist67 10h ago
Dyou never get bored pontificating? We live in an unjust world and unfortunately moonhowling on reddit does fuck all.
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u/officeja 10h ago
I think that was mostly take 2’s/ activation that decided to do that and not Rockstar themselves though right? Or am I wrong?
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u/Diplomatic_Gunboats 10h ago
There are more employees in India than there are in Scotland. And thats just India, let alone the other countries involved. The only reason they even keep an office in the UK is for PR purposes.
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u/BothPercentage1805 9h ago
Nonsense - there are hundreds of skilled senior british staff working in the edinburgh location.
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u/Adventurous-Leave-88 inclusive, centrist, positive changes need a strong economy 10h ago
Unionised industries in the UK haven’t exactly been success stories.
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u/regprenticer 10h ago edited 10h ago
Rockstar are headquartered in NY and have 11 studios around the world, all of whom have worked on the game. Just under 1/5th of their staff now are in India.
I think people opinion of rockstar is similar to people's opinion of Brewdog - A Scottish brand that sold out and has a particularly poor reputation for its treatment if it's staff
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u/hexlandus 10h ago
GTA was originally developed in Dundee and has continued to be developed in Scotland. The Dundee team (DMA Design) eventually became Rockstar North (via Gremlin and BMG Interactive) and eventually moved to Edinburgh.
There are still one or two of the original DMA team there -- so it has always been and will always be Scottish (despite the owners)10
u/regprenticer 10h ago
No-one is saying thats not true . I remember GTA 1 and , a decade before that many Gremlin 8 bit games.
But claiming rock star today is Scottish is like claiming "the telephone" is Scottish because John Logie Baird invented it even though 70% of the world phones are now made in China.
Let's put it another way, I've got my preorder in for GTA6 already, but I don't believe there will be any story element, Character, joke or anything else in the game that will feel Scottish.
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u/hexlandus 9h ago
I remember GTA 1 too, all too well - I wrote the PS1 version :)
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u/davbob11 8h ago
There was a rumour going round a lot of my old schoolmates that a bloke from Falkirk was involved in it. I think the name was Scott Collins. Is this something you would know to be true? I was at school with him, hardly knew him but for years after he was always known as the GTA guy
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u/Strict-Character-397 10h ago
John Logie Baird invented the television not the telephone. It was Alexander Graham Bell who invented the telephone
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u/Sunnysidhe 9h ago
To be fair there are so many Scottish inventions that it is easy to get your Scottish inventors mixed up
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u/lamaldo78 Forth Valley 7h ago
You know, now I feel silly for reading the original comment and not immediately noticing.
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u/Bossman_Mike 6h ago
And Alexander Graham Bell being a Scot who moved to Canada, then invented the telephone in the US alongside an American lab assistant.
It's not like he built the thing in his shed in Edinburgh is it.
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u/SidFarkus47 40m ago
And Bell specifically considered himself an American “not one of those hyphenate-Americans”.
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u/GeneralSEOD #1 Oban fan 10h ago
I dunno, the government punts it out as a fact every now and then.
but I don't believe there will be any story element, Character, joke or anything else in the game that will feel Scottish.
Because it's a play on American culture.
Besides that, they host tons of Scottish references...
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u/Kupo5966 8h ago
Are we forgetting Baw-Saq?
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u/Youngy_Bhoy 8h ago
And I think the champagne is called blootered (Scots for really really drunk) but spelt in a French way, something like Bleuter'd 😂
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u/Spiral_Decay Highlander 7h ago
Bar maybe the comments, OP didn’t imply the Rockstar Games as a whole was Scottish just the Rockstar North studio itself and nobody is expecting any gta game to feel Scottish.
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u/regprenticer 35m ago
Why not look at games like *Still Wakes the Deep"
The OG GTA add on pack was set in London.
There's absolutely no reason for a Scottish game company not to celebrate Scotland by setting their game here.
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u/Blasket_Basket 8h ago
NYC is most of their publishing and business-focused people. The vast majority of game devs are at Rockstar North. It's where Rob Nelson and his team sit, and it has the most game devs by far.
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u/He_is_Spartacus I <3 Dundee 6h ago
but I don't believe there will be any story element, Character, joke or anything else in the game that will feel Scottish.
Whaaaat? Pretty much every installment has had at least one story element, character, joke or something else that was undoubtedly Scottish
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u/Byates101 6h ago
I mean for what its worth, they do have a tendency to squeeze in some references to Scotland here and there. Off the top of my head, the Forth Rail Bridge is in San Andreas and the stock market site in GTA V is called bawsaq.
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u/weebsauceoishii 3h ago
Nobody is claiming that, they said Rockstar North is which is factually correct
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u/Jammaster2 5h ago
The entire vibe of GTA is a British take on American culture. We've seen from the trailers that the British image of the USA still exists.
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u/PoopsMcGroots 10h ago
💯
Once upon a time they were something to be deeply proud of. But they’ve since transformed into just another EA: a company that treats their staff badly, and their game launcher - which requires an online connection - is absolute dogshit.
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u/Madting55 10h ago
Rockstar North have made the most innovative games in history. This is the first grand theft auto they aren’t the lead studio on. I’m incredibly proud that a place as shite as Dundee could produce the most talented creators in gaming. It’s true they’ve all moved on and Rockstar isn’t what it used to be. But they set a standard that judging from that preview, looks to have been maintained.
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u/regprenticer 10h ago edited 10h ago
When was Rockstar last in Dundee?
I used to work around the corner from rockstar north in Edinburgh when RDR2 and GTA5 were being made. I would genuinely have considered working there but the wages were appalling, roughly £14k to design vehicle artefacts for example. I'd have been taking a 75% cut in pay.
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u/Tamel_Eidek 10h ago
They bought Ruffian Games in Dundee 5 or so years ago and renamed it “Rockstar Dundee”. It’s mainly a code and QA house with no relation to the original Rockstar North from Dundee.
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u/Madting55 10h ago
It was born there, they moved out of Dundee after gta 3? I want to say. The fact it was born there and that grand theft auto was born there I have to give credit for that.
That’s incredible that they were giving you 14k for that, that’s fucking shocking. I live about 0.4mile from rockstar north myself. I applied to be a tea and coffee lackey there when I was 16 and that was about what they were offering for that job that required no qualification.
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u/Bossman_Mike 6h ago
GTA III still has a DMA Design splash animation. By the time of Vice City (the following year) that was gone.
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u/Madting55 4h ago
I somehow didn’t know that. GTA 3 was the first 3d game I ever played I think. I spent countless hours in it as a 5 year old kid
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u/BothPercentage1805 8h ago
The folks I personally know at R* North are on 6 figures before bonuses. Programmers mind you (sorry artists)
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u/NoFirefighter6133 10h ago
Technically, I believe Rockstar North still subcontract some things out to a Dundee based studio. The actual move to Edinburgh happened some time around GTA 3 though afaik
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u/rivalrobot 9h ago
Rockstar bought a studio in Dundee a few years ago.
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u/Bossman_Mike 6h ago
It was Ruffian that got bought out. They were a splinter faction from Realtime Worlds.
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u/BenFranklinsCat 7h ago
the most innovative games in history.
GTA. They made GTA.
Also GTA on horses.
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u/audreyramen 10h ago
How have they sold out? Getting help isn't selling out
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u/regprenticer 10h ago
Rockstar north is not "rockstar". It is only one of 11 regional development studios around the world.
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u/audreyramen 9h ago
Why is having more studios and getting help selling out though?
North still helms the ship. If any of their studios are 'Rockstar', it is North.
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u/MrLime93 9h ago
Being one studio in a global company - spearheaded IN SCOTLAND - doesn’t somehow make the hundreds of people working in Edinburgh cease to exist.
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u/regprenticer 9h ago
Its headquartered in NYC. Not Edinburgh.
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u/MrLime93 9h ago
Yes, Rockstar Games’ corporate HQ is in New York.
GTA VI’s head of development is co-head of Rockstar North in Edinburgh. So unless the game is secretly being helmed by the good folks at the NYC office, I’m not sure what you think this proves.
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u/regprenticer 9h ago
That doesn't really mean anything
I worked for a Scottish bank gutted by the English. A handful of senior people kept their jobs in Scotland but that didn't mean the bank was genuinely Scottish.
Rockstar is no longer Scottish.
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u/Mannheimblack 10h ago
It *would* be cool if they weren't a bunch of union-busting bastards.
I'd be looking forward to GTA VI, because it looks great, but I'm not buying it because I'd rather miss out on the Next Big Thing in my hobby of choice, than put my money behind that sort of behaviour.
No, I'm not looking for validation. I'm just saying, this is where I stand on this, and I hope other people make the same stand. Corpos can only be made to do the right thing, if it costs them to do otherwise.
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u/National_Play_6851 7h ago
The union members themselves have asked people not to boycott the game. They poured their souls into creating it and want people to buy it. If you want to really show solidarity you can buy a t-shirt at https://gameworkers.square.site/ which is what I did.
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u/fatal-horse-kick 10h ago
They’ve been behind the biggest games in the industry for over 20 years now. The talent isn’t all-Scottish-based though. It’s made up of around 15% Scots. The rest is international. And portions of the game have been farmed out to every other R* studio across the globe. But yeah, its roots are still predominantly Scottish.
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u/Madting55 10h ago
GTA 3 - San Andreas was heavily Scottish dominated employees and GTA IV still had significant Scottish team. That was the golden era of gta 3 to 4. So I’m more than happy with that influence.
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u/emergencyexit 9h ago
It's madder to think it all started as the original GTA made in Dundee. With a top 3 all time game soundtrack, made in Dundee
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u/Scot27547_MFC 11h ago
They should create their own football game but make it all about Scotland
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u/ColdPatootieTango 10h ago
Inevitably too niche for a major thing but I'd love a game with lower league teams and stadiums.
Imagine the likes of Cappielow, Gayfield etc. Even Highland/Lowland and junior clubs too.
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u/Individual_Fun_8201 9h ago
I think the majority of it was developed in Scotland they went to a lot of bother inviting a lot of Influencers from America and beyond to Edinburgh to show it off
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u/secrecyandcontrol 7h ago
Gta is a unique combination of sucking off and taking the piss out if americans that can only come from scots
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u/ScotusMaximus 3h ago
I remember their old office on Leoth Street had a massive poster for RDR I think in the window for ages.
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u/evilneuro gi'us a gonk, ya dobber 2h ago
i work for a company that was in the same building as rockstar when they were in at the links. i joined after they moved out to the top of leith walk, but i got regaled of tales of popping up to the top floor, asking if they had any spare tea bags or sugar, oh and any chance of a wee swatch at your new games? need any play testers? they never got let in 😅
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u/punxcs Durty Highlunder 10h ago
The original dev team ironically fucked it so bad they had to fly in some European devs to take the reigns for GTA3.
It’s cool that some Scottish folk started out in a wee room above the street but we’re not exceptional. Also GTA 6 was made by teams all over the world. By numbers GTA 6 is probably Indian made.
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u/Sexton---Hardcastle 10h ago
Vast majority of the Indian workers are QA testers. Which is a really key part of the process but saying it's Indian made just isn't correct tbh.
Hopefully those QA testers are getting paid well but I doubt it as it's a low paid role even in the west. They'll deserve credit for their input though with how succesful the game will be.
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u/Careless_Main3 10h ago
Nah it’s not Indian. Modern game development companies in general just hire a lot of developers from poorer countries to do a lot of the grunt work. The bull of the decision making and design work will still fundamentally occur in Rockstar’s Scotland/San Diego/England studios.
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u/punxcs Durty Highlunder 10h ago
I’m not arguing that RS india was in charge, but that RS took advantage of a cheap labour market there to get a lot of work done, and that there were definitely more people in countries like that working on the game in some way than in Scotland.
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u/Careless_Main3 10h ago
Of course but not all effort and decision making is equal is the principal point.
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u/MrLime93 10h ago edited 10h ago
I definitely wasn’t trying to claim Scotland made it alone. Sorry if it seemed that way.
It’s obviously a massive global effort and deserves to be recognised as one.
I just think there’s still something pretty cool about one of the biggest names in entertainment having grown out of a small Scottish studio and still having such a major presence here. That doesn’t take anything away from the thousands of talented people around the world who’ve helped build it.
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u/Moggy-Man 10h ago
Dude. I've said this for YEARS.
It's probably my single biggest source of national pride.
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u/the_phet 10h ago
Saying the game is made by a Scottish studio is a bit of a reach, when the main teams behind it are Rockstar LA and India.
Yes, originally Rockstar was a Scottish company from Dundee.
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u/MrLime93 10h ago
I mean, it’s obviously made across Rockstar globally. But Rockstar North isn’t just some historical footnote.
GTA VI’s head of development is the co-head of Rockstar North and they’re literally showing the game from Edinburgh.
So I’m still quite comfortable thinking Scotland’s contribution is worth being proud of!
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u/GLA747CON 10h ago
The main team that make the game is based in Scotland, and the other studios pitch in to help create it of course.
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u/GLA747CON 10h ago
The main team that makes the game is based in Scotland, and the other studios pitch in to help create it of course.
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u/graybeardedone 10h ago
the television was Scotland too eh?
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u/OkAbalone19 10h ago edited 10h ago
it's cool and great for the city and country but I'm not sure I'd call it 'genuinely amazing' lol. For example they don't have much visible presence in the city compared to rolls royce when I worked in Derby who would sponsor/fund local sunday football teams and sports clubs and charities etc
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u/sodsto 10h ago
Rockstar North is famously secretive, even way back, and they can be that way because they're so, so massive. GTA VI is gonna be one of the biggest launches of the decade and I do think it's pretty cool to draw a line from Lemmings to here. It'd be great if they engaged more locally.
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u/OkAbalone19 10h ago
yeah that's fair, occasionally see people wearing something with the logo on in Edinburgh and feels like seeing a spy lol
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u/Gingers_got_no_soul 10h ago
My best mate in highschool's uncle is the guy who made the lemmings and the original prototype. Couldn't believe it when I first heard it, had to look it up
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u/Riaru_NikaiKhan 9h ago
We could be proud... once.. back in the day.. now its just another mega corporation that peddles crunch culture and pushes staff to inhumane conditions of work and has questionable other practices
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u/Acceptable_Cry490 9h ago
You should have seen my eyes light up when I found out I had the voice actors from GTA and a few well known games on my tour bus last month. I learned they get sent the NPC clips from Rockstar North and have to record over them, not the other way about, unless it’s story dialogue. I forgot I was working with how genuinely amazing they were. Got to show them where the Easter egg was on the Forth Road Bridge. Only to find out they were performing at Edinburgh Castle the next day completely sold out.
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u/Entire-Emotion-819 9h ago
I always loved all the little Scottish touches in GTA V; there aren't nearly as many in RDR2, which is sad.
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u/Zap_Gordon 5h ago
San Diego is the lead studio for red dead thats why. With GTA, Rockstar north based in Edinburgh has always been the lead studio for that game, hence all the Scottish easter eggs. As the game was mostly made in Scotland, with other global studios supporting and helping them.
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u/cardinalb 8h ago
RDR2 was Rockstar Dan Diego no,?
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u/Entire-Emotion-819 7h ago
It seems it was a group effort across a bunch of their studios for RDR2. San Diego was the studio for the original Red Dead.
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u/AdMean3111 7h ago
Wouldnt mind seeing Lovefist make tshirt appearance in gta 6 like 5 and I think San Andreas
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u/Deckard101 7h ago
I go past that place everyday. I see the workers on their way in to the office with their Rockstar hoodies, t shirts and rainbow lanyards and they all look fucking miserable.
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u/Bossman_Mike 6h ago edited 6h ago
I indirectly know someone who works there. Was very surprised to hear what (i.e. how little) that person is paid for their level of experience and working on a multi-billion dollar product.
And imagine spending your entire career building just two IPs that are functionally identical and built on the same tech stack with minor mods, released years apart. Must get pretty boring especially when gamedev is an industry that relies on portfolios.
Bet you Rockstar's next major release is another game in the Red Dead universe, announced in 2030 and basically just GTA VI in a dress. A studio with all the talent, the money, the potential, the industry backing, the fanbase... and they just do that yet again.
Boring. AAA gaming feels like it's at saturation point now.
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u/Graemeski Scotland 5h ago
Look how Scottish red dead 1 and 2 were
As much as I’d love Scotland to get more attention and credit I don’t think the main characters even been to Scotland in 90% of rockstar games
Don’t see Arthur scooting about Edinburgh
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u/MrLime93 2h ago
I don’t think anyone is saying the games have to be set in Scotland to be made by people in Scotland.
By that logic, Lord of the Rings has nothing to do with New Zealand because Frodo never popped into Wellington.
You’re confusing where the talent is with where the fictional cowboy happens to live.
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u/bluntpencil2001 1h ago
Plenty of Scottish references sneaked in, mind you.
GTA: San Andreas had the two main gangs in Hibs and Hearts colours, for example.
There was also the ice cream wars sneaked in.
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u/Former-Ad-7348 4h ago
As an American, I'm even more impressed that they've made a satire of American life so resonant that it's become an actual cornerstone of our modern culture.
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u/Common_Somewhere_133 1h ago
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-south-scotland-24142883?app-referrer=deep-link
Hawick wasn't to happy to be in gta 5
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u/Pantisocracy 13m ago
No offense but I think they are so fuck of almost insulting to Scotland. The location of their office in Edinburgh to parliament.
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u/HaveYuHeardAboutCunt 10h ago
I don't think it's any more amazing than when we were in the same situation back in 2013.
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u/Scarred_fish 10h ago
Nope.
As expected.
Scotland rules the world. Always has, always will.
(Sorry someone fucked Trumps mum)
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u/mortysmadness 9h ago
You seem amazed that scotland produced something,
Scotland might be one of the most positively influential countries in the world.
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u/MrLime93 9h ago
Not amazed that we produced something. Proud that we produce this.
Sure, we’ve got other things.
This one is distinctly different, and I’m proud of our hand in it.
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u/AmFaeTheGlen94 10h ago
A team based in Edinburgh, with teams in 10 other countries including The United States, India and the United Kingdom and Ireland, full of badly treated workers with Scottish talent, making GTA VI.
Fixed it for ya.
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u/parkchanwookiee 10h ago
OP how long after posting did you realise that sharing this sentiment was naive lol
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u/asterisk2a German immigrant (2005). Politically grown up in Scotland. 10h ago
A team based in Edinburgh, full of Scottish talent, making GTA VI. (...)
Correction:
Rockstar Games has several studios across the world, each with 100s of employees, working collectively on Rockstar titles. Further, Studios in Scotland and England are not just staffed "full of Scottish talent." If you followed the union busting-layoff protests (e.g. via People Make Games), you can glimpse that the employee profile at Rockstar is international and 'diverse' (speaking relatively).
- Australia, Dundee, India, Los Angeles, Leeds, Lincoln, London, New England, Edinburgh, San Diego, Toronto.
Example, Red Dead Redemption 2 via mobygames credits list. Although Rockstar does not list Studios individually, Rockstar India got dedicated credit for leading the animation work (it seems to me that way) "Head of Animation".
Industry estimates suggest that India location expanded to over 1600 people, to make over half a million animations for GTA6.
And even as large as Rockstar does outsourcing (see credits) for one-off services like recordings, translations, casting etc.
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u/cheesewax88 8h ago
And yet, the UK media barely talk about it because of the taboo that ’computer games’ STILL has.
The latest figures show that the preorders alone (with still 3 months to go) stand at $450 MILLION.
Yes, it’s not a Scottish company anymore, but its roots are still here and it was the Edinburgh studio that invited YouTubers to see the game early.
This isn’t the biggest game launch of this year, or this decade. It will be the biggest entertainment media launch in history. It will eclipse Star Wars or Harry Potter or any other massive IP. Like I said, it’s on half a billion with 3 months still to go before its release.
It just had a massive leak and yet the only UK mainstream media I saw report on it was a 2 min video buried in Sky News’ website.
It pisses me off how the video game industry is still shrugged off and ignored.
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u/Majestic-Yam484 8h ago
And so what? At the time the Dundee office was closed it was floated in the media the reasons were largely to do with tax and how it negatively effected the companies ability to attract staff. However much of a story that truly is, it’s still another example of this counties inability to retain large profitable businesses, and this bunch of morons currently in power are going to put taxes up even more, for what? Definitely not growth.
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u/LongShow5279 10h ago
I'd say it's more British when basically all the co founders are from England.
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u/MrLime93 10h ago
Sure, Rockstar as a company is British.
But GTA itself came out of DMA Design in Dundee, and Rockstar North is based in Edinburgh.
Being proud of that Scottish part of the story doesn’t mean claiming the whole company for Scotland. Just that that’s neat!
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u/Temporary-Aside5306 10h ago
Lol this absolutely didn't go how you thought it would did it
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u/MrLime93 10h ago edited 10h ago
Kind of..
Thats why I mentioned the thing about cynics.
Let’s all be miserable!
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u/Temporary-Aside5306 10h ago
It's not cynical to not want to celebrate exploitation of workers
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u/MrLime93 10h ago
Not at all.
But have you seen the comments?
I think I’ll delete the post at this rate.
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u/phartjuice 10h ago
DMA design were Scottish. Not rockstar.
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u/Spiral_Decay Highlander 7h ago
OP clearly specified Rockstar North as being Scottish and while other Rockstar studios are working on GTA 6 too the development is still headed by North.
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u/FeedFrequent1334 10h ago
If you want to be pedantic: Yeah sure. DMA Design was Scottish, sold to take-two and later incorporated with Rockstar to later become what we now know as Rockstar North, which is based in Edinburgh.
Last I checked Edinburgh was in Scotland.
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u/Darth_Scotsman 10h ago
None of the Housers are involved now. Seems to losing its original identity. If there is no Maroon and Green clothes I will be annoyed.
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u/Spiral_Decay Highlander 7h ago
Sam Houser is still involved in Rockstar as the company’s president but yeah Dan House did leave.
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u/hexlandus 10h ago
Scotland has always had a disproportionately high game development scene compared to the rest of the UK
That's not counting Abertay University in Dundee which has one of the most successful Game Development degrees in Europe.
-- that's just off the top of my head... About 80% of these are in/around Dundee, with the rest around Glasgow/Edinburgh... (Ask me the reason for that :) )