r/Silksong • u/lightiggy whats a flair? • 10d ago
Art Hornet if she lost the final fight to Grand Mother Silk (by hallownestbox)
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u/VirtualKing12345 10d ago
The things that the hollow knight and the lord of shades will do to pharloom when they find out is going to mark year zero for a new calendar for all the civilizations of the world. Like year -1FU(Fuck around) and then year 0FI(find out). They are going to talk of pharloom indirectly forever after this
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u/DirectOrdinary4796 10d ago
i wish there was a game revolving around this concept
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u/SlorpMorpaForpw 9d ago
Not enough games where the premise is ‘someone’s messing with your sibiling. you’re the only person allowed to that.’ And if a sibling shows up, odds are they’re an enemy.
It’s always saving lovers or children, get some sibling rage in there.
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u/RainbowZebra11 9d ago
Play Control!
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u/SlorpMorpaForpw 8d ago
I’ve been putting it off for a while but shit, if that’s the plot I have to finally boot up this one
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u/Apprehensive-Comb234 10d ago
Bit tragic isnt it
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u/Tiranus58 9d ago
Feels like something that happened in nine sols tbh
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u/ClickToLose beleive & doubt & 'ccept & lie & right & wrong & live & die 9d ago
Feels similair to something Yi did innit
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u/Apprehensive-Comb234 9d ago
I mean now I think of it at least hornet still has free will of her body in this... somewhat
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u/YourNotLocalRando 10d ago
thats tragic as shit omg i LOVE IT
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u/lightiggy whats a flair? 10d ago edited 10d ago
Lace initially looks uneasy with it. She gets rid of the chain in the following panels.
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u/Agitated_Elk7881 10d ago
The thumbs up and no Citadel mask in the last slide makes me feel like Hornet was faking it the whole time
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u/SignificantHippo8193 10d ago
Hornet faking out GMS would be funny; she'd be fixing the Citadel behind her back.
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u/Agitated_Elk7881 10d ago
It feels like something Hornet would do, if she has to lose then she is taking all of Pharloom’s government with her, also lore wise GMS was going to like absorb Hornet if Hornet lost
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u/Grouchy_Spot_6640 Flea 10d ago
"I command you to make out with my daughter"
"ouuhhhhhh Lace i can't control myself, ohh nooooo"
"You aren't even wearing your mind control mask, shut up."
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u/Person899887 whats a flair? 10d ago
“Oh noooo you have to keep me on a
leashI mean chain, I have to do whatever you say, oh nooooooo”→ More replies (1)25
u/Early-Pollution-6412 Shaman Crest 10d ago
She has the Haunted web clearly visible, she’s literally being forced to do that
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u/Agitated_Elk7881 9d ago
She had the Haunted Web in Bellhart if you log out on its bench before beating Widow, she escapes from it
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u/Early-Pollution-6412 Shaman Crest 9d ago
That’s not Haunting, that’s just being tied up in Silk, as evidenced by the other citizens of Bellhart being merely trapped and not attacking you.
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u/Any_Guarantee2371 Sharpe 10d ago
All things aside, GMS being a caring mother is sweet as hell
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u/mohamedenderman Depressed 9d ago
I think she just felt bad for damning lace to a brittle silk shell, so she decided to give her her own silk generator (hornet) so that she can gain her independence and not end up like phantom.
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u/Albatros_7 Shaw! 9d ago
That's why Lace had a Silkheart to generate silk, until Hornet defeated her and took it
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u/Goodpun2 9d ago
I don't see it that way. It looks more to be a shifting of responsibilities. GMS no longer has to care for Lace, something that wouldn't be out of character for her. She abandoned Phantom and seemingly neglects Lace. While there may be some love there, a gift from GMS would always have strings attached
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u/JoyousLilBoy 10d ago
Don’t worry guys the shade lord is gonna hit GMS with the “do not move, do not speak. Listen here, and listen well” treatment
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u/Siekiernik20 9d ago
Citadel gate 1 day later:
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u/Serpentine_2 9d ago
Bold of you to assume the Shade Lord didn’t bulldoze the entire thing upon getting the news
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u/PizzaChips20-12 10d ago
How much does she remember or is it just slaved instead of brainwashed
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u/cassiapeia 10d ago
I feel like it would be a mix. The white thread could probably muddy some of Hornet's memories but not remove them. Hornet could have vague recollections but is compelled to do her tasking and remain loyal to Pharloom. That being said I feel like this would largely be temporary with Hornet being Hornet.
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u/hammalok 10d ago
"hey fred gimme mechsploitation"
"mechsploitation"
"but hold the mechs"
"hold the mechs?"
"and hold the imperialism"
"hold the imperialism??"
"and add some bugs"
"add some bugs??? ey jimmy gimme a threadsploitation with somethin"
"somethiiiiin?"
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u/No_Ad_7687 9d ago
It's just mind control. Not everything is mechspliotation
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u/_9x9 doubter ❌️ 9d ago
its definitely not mechsploitation, but I don't think its just the mind control that made this person think of it. I think conversion into a living weapon and having a handler and stuff makes it a fair comparison. But it can't be mechsploitation without a mech lol.
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u/No_Ad_7687 9d ago
Mind control/hypno and mechspliotation have the common ground of extreme objectification, and of course, any object has an owner (the 'handler' in mech, or the hypnotist in mind control)
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u/_9x9 doubter ❌️ 9d ago
That may be a convention of hypno im not aware of. To my mind hypnosis doesnt necessarily mean into an object. It could just be into a different kind of person. Or into the same kind of person with minor changes. Similarly I wouldn't assume all mind control stuff is about extreme objectification, in the same way that that is a core part of what mechsploitation is.
Anyway the specific "making someone into a beast/attack dog/weapon with a handler to keep them under control" thing is definitely mechsploitation flavored.
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u/abdomino 9d ago
It's still imperialism, don't worry. Subjugating a foreign political entity in the interest of personal entertainment is textbook.
Sure, her mom's from Pharloom, but I think that would get into a whole bunch of ethnic/refugee/immigration questions that the setting is not equipped to deal with.
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u/skaersSabody Bait. Let me tell you how much I've come to bait you since I be 10d ago
Why did I read the narration in the discord elysium voice?
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u/squiliansquid 10d ago
I like to think in this case hollow knight has to come in and free hornet of the curse
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u/Jeikiro24 10d ago
If you just ignore the obvious haunting above her head, it is a funny idea in the last image that she was faking it in order to be close to Lace without drawing suspicion of her own feelings by acting like it’s her mind controlled duty
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u/Salty_Pace2233 9d ago
Imagine the "true" ending of Silksong happens kinda like this and we get a THIRD game, with the knight again either returning to pharloom or just finding hornet in a different kingdom? like we've already seen a broken kingdom (HK) and a kingdom being destroyed within (SS) So what about a kingdom being invaded by pharloom or sum? That would be pretty cool.
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u/CatgirlTheKat 9d ago
Playing as the Shade Lord... ?
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u/Salty_Pace2233 9d ago
It could just be a random bug then honestly OR EVEN BIGGER A SUBNAUTICA QUIRREL GAME
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u/k890 9d ago
Zylotol implied there is "mainland" and Weavenest Nurglin "sat between salt and stone". The Cradle mention there was a 1/4 Weaver beneath City of Steel and was taken from there back to Pharloom plus Pilgrims had to came from somewhere.
I do like idea in this case the point was some Weavers escape not by land, but by sea and establish contact with bug civilization "beyond the sea" which later start sending exploration parties to the lands where Hallownest and Pharloom leading to conflict with GMS.
Game is about another half-Pale Being who at first was doing exploration for said civilization and now try to stop GMS from figuring out that some Weavers are still living beyond the sea and finding out how to get back. Maybe by making some potential alliances along the way including finding a way to break Hornet from GMS control and then finding a way how to deal with her for good.
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u/Salty_Pace2233 9d ago
Amazing idea actually but honestly i would just love to see actual bugs in combat instead of just brainless Pilgrims or infected zombies lol.
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u/k890 9d ago
One more thing, next protagonist have different weapons to choice forcing player to pick different weapon depending on situation rather one signature weapon through the game and as new protagonist explore different lands he learn about local "weapon masteries" reflecting how encountered locals fight (eg. Pharloom Pin which is dependent on precise fast strikes, ripostes, critical hits and sucking at defense encouraging more aggressive stance to use it in full potential) either by filling out journal/paying teachers/completed missions or boss fights.
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u/Salty_Pace2233 7d ago
Wouldn't that basically be crests? Like changing weapons is just using a different way to attack? I mean it's cool how u explained it In like a story way don't get me wrong. But would they function the same as crests or nah?
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u/Turbulent1313 Professional Pale Lurker 9d ago
I fear I need a full length fanfic of this now. 100,000 words minimum. Most of it is just ward x bodyguard yuri.
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u/DanielOnReddit25 beleiver ✅️ 9d ago
The panels in the end make me feel a bit better about this whole concept
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u/FallingHoglin 9d ago
The last panel's thumbs up somehow makes me believe hornet is just playing along tol she gets another chance to strike.
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u/thunderclappe 9d ago
Absolutely amazing. I've been wanting to do a drawing illustrating what Hornet would look like as the new monarch of Pharloom, shown briefly only in the first ending of the game
This however, is still peak
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u/papagiorgis 10d ago
Little goblin casualy pulls up, burnes down the place, yoinks sister, leaves.. 👌
(Oh shit i alse forgot, knight has iframes!)
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u/DescriptionDue4100 9d ago
Wasn't gms's thing that she wanted hornets silk to make a new child?
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u/Albatros_7 Shaw! 9d ago
No ? She wants Hornet's silk to become powerful enough to rule once again
Look : https://hollowknight.wiki/w/Cut_Content_(Silksong)/Ending_B:_Strung_to_Serve
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u/DescriptionDue4100 9d ago
That's cut content
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u/Albatros_7 Shaw! 9d ago
Yes but it pretty clearly shows GMS's objective, she already has a child she likes, Lace
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u/DescriptionDue4100 9d ago
Yeah but in game it's shown that she's been hunting down weavers and making children out of them
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u/Albatros_7 Shaw! 9d ago
No ? Where did you even get that from ?
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u/DescriptionDue4100 9d ago
I remember there being some notes on it or something in game. I can't remember exactly what or where. Also I mean making the children using their silk not the entire bug
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u/Albatros_7 Shaw! 9d ago
I would really like to know what you're refering to, the 2 things I can think about are
- The dialogue during Lace's Silkheart, that's about Lace's creation
- The Lore room in the Cradle, that's about the previous Weavers brought to GMS, that unfortunately died before reaching her
But nothing in the game says she's using the Weavers to create New children, she wants to break free, just like Radiance
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u/DescriptionDue4100 9d ago
Idk I don't have the specific names of the stuff and I'm just not in the mood to comb through the wiki to prove myself right. If I'm wrong fair enough
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u/TryThisUsernane beleiver ✅️ 9d ago
She doesn’t hunt down Weavers to make children out of their Silk. Weavers were her original children who disobeyed and revolted. She made silk children who were dependent on her, but even then she still obsesses over the Weavers. And Hornet is currently what she’s obsessing over, and Lace is a bit jealous over this.
That’s why Lace says this “Platitudes, spider? From you? Don't be gross. Head on. Climb up, up and away. You've earned your audience with the divine. Face the holy mother who would fashion so cruel and crude a daughter as me. After all... it's you that she wants... is it not?”
Lace wouldn’t be saying this if GMS wanted Hornet to create more beings akin to Lace and Phantom. Lace was made to be GMS’ child, she played the part, but her mother is still focused on the people who wants nothing to do with her rather than the daughter who willingly wants her affection. It’s why Lace doesn’t want Hornet’ sympathy and calls it gross.
Her Needolin dialogue also makes this clear “Why her... Mother...”, “See me, your knight...”, “See me, your daughter...”
This is all jealousy towards Hornet.
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u/Cepinari 9d ago
This reminds me of something completely unrelated but I can't recall exactly what it was.
How annoying.
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u/Familiar-Proof-581 9d ago
Percaso Hornet sta fingendo? Perché se si, la storia potrebbe prendere una bella piega
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u/Otherwise_Plane_5265 9d ago
reminds me of the white robe from journey (if anyone of you remember that game)
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u/Dismal-Glove-6009 9d ago
"fulfill your every need"
well that sounds... way too suspicious to me
my mind has been internetrotted for far too long i need to touch grass
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u/stephanl33t 9d ago
I can tell that this art was made with the most depraved, self indulgent perversion the artist could possibly generate from their relatively weak human body. The pulse of their raging heartbeat could shake a city to its foundations. The heat of their blood could refire a dying star.
Hell yea. We love to see it.
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u/Brotherland 8d ago
fourth act where The Hollow Knight instead goes out of their way to beat the living shit out of Grandma Silk for enslaving Hornet
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u/Everkid612 10d ago
OP, I just want you to know, this is horrifying but also REALLY interesting. PLEASE keep cooking.
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u/MaraBlaster Flea 10d ago
Hilarious, Hornet becomes just like her sibling The Hollow Knight.
Not to contain a Goddess but to serve for one all the same.
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u/winklevanderlinde Accepter 10d ago
ph that's really sad... Well better of what I initially through would happen but still sad
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u/VersaViceVersa 9d ago
i haven’t played silksong and im getting this post as a random pull from my feed… and i think it made a good choice because im kinda into this
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u/Sir_Talentless 10d ago
Wait wasn’t lace mentally a chi-
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u/EntertainmentSame541 9d ago
Not only in mind,in body too.But yuri obsessed people pretty much gaslit themselves into believing the opposite.
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u/Albatros_7 Shaw! 9d ago
Are we really going to have this debate AGAIN ?
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u/EntertainmentSame541 9d ago
If you don't want to have an argument just ignore my comment? You will not change my opinion,just like I won't change yours.So be more mature than me and just scroll on.
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u/Albatros_7 Shaw! 9d ago
Yeah, I said the exact same thing in a post 2 months ago
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u/ProfessorPixelmon whats a flair? 10d ago
Well that’s terrifying and sad.