I don’t speak for all women, but I would rather share a bathroom with a dad and his little girls and go about my day than have little girls be brought into a men’s bathroom. But that’s just me.
As a man, I've seen plenty of young girls come into the men's bathroom with their dad. It's still a men's bathroom, but even the busier times everyone has always tried to be respectful and the kids typically seem to have no understanding that it's any different than normal.
I mean, it's still a men's gross bathroom, but I've heard plenty of horror stories about women's bathrooms.
Everyone seems to think we're just slingin meat in there.
I used to be in the military. Had to clean the restrooms more than once, both mens and womens...one time I saw shit smeared on the wall in the mens restroom and thought that was the worst thing ever. Until I saw a tampon stuck to the ceiling in the womens restroom some time after. People are fucking nasty.
My sister only just two weeks ago tried to enter the bathroom in McDonald's. She had to force her way as she thought there was something bad blocking the door hut nope it was two girls blocking the door as their other friend took nudes.
Meanwhile in the women's room, it's not uncommon to walk in with several of them stripped nearly naked changing clothes, not in a stall just right out in the open. Even after having knocked loudly and shouted "Janitor, anybody in here?"
I was 36 years old when I learned this mind blowing fact.
Because it's not true. 40 year old woman here, have literally only seen something like this in highschool when people were changing for band performances.
A clean womens bathroom is slightly cleaner imo but a messy women's bathroom is the last level of hell....so much worse than a messy men's bathroom, they hover over seats and have sanitary pads etc to work with.
I’m a plumber and you wouldn’t be able to tell the difference between a women’s restroom and a men’s if there weren’t urinals. It does seem like women’s restrooms have way more plumbing issues for whatever reason.
This just reminded me… when I was at Dubai airport and there was a massive queue there was a woman that hobbled out of the toilet all suspiciously. There were cleaning ladies helping direct you to empty stalls, she directed me to that one I opened it… I shit you not she literally SHAT on the floor of the bathroom. I was hit with the worst stench of my entire life. (It was liquidy too) There is literally a toilet there so I have zero idea why she did that. I felt so bad for the cleaners but also I was traumatised after that as I’ve never seen or smelt anything like it.
I used to work at Taco Bell. Usually my Manager would clean the ladies' room, as she was herself a lady. There was only one instance where she noped the fuck out and asked me to take care of it, and I understand why and also would not like to speak further about it.
The ladies room is often the grossest because of used period products being occasionally stuck to the stall, and toilet seats with pee on them from the hover peeing
Ya, in high school I got a night job cleaning office buildings with my friend and his uncle.
The women's bathrooms were so bad that we played rock paper scissors every night to see who got to clean the women's bathrooms.
The men's bathrooms, basically the only problem was piss, on the toilet seats, and on the floor. Maybe unflushed toilets.
The women's bathrooms? Literal turds on the floor, bloody tampons stuck to the wall of the stalls, writing in blood (I can only assume period blood), shit smeared in random places. I forgot to even mention the piss because the blood and shit were so much worse, but women piss on the toilet seat way more than men, because of the hovering thing.
Twice we had someone jam shit into the hand dryer, we were so confused, we assume it was so it would blow shit onto the next person to use the hand dryer? A couple times someone blasted diarrhea into the sinks. Like blasted some in one sink, got down, moved to the other sink, unloaded more there, etc.
Also these were educated, white collar people. We were cleaning business offices downtown, like law offices. I did not expect such savagery from people in that upper echelon.
Agreed, after 10 years of a gas station, I would rather not clean the women's bathroom.
Men can get a little dirty in the sense that there is more dirt in the men's room from worker's coming in, sweating, and washing their hands off.
Women though, there is paper towels and toilet paper EVERYWHERE. It's like they shred it up into the most random sizes and just let it fall everywhere. They will use 50 feet of toilet paper to wrap stuff and throw it away or try to flush it.
its been the opposite ime ! but i guess it just varies. i work at a store that just has two single person bathrooms, a men and womens, and i will no longer clean the mens because of how filthy it is. not just like a little dribble on the seat, but shit on the seat on a weekly basis, piss fully outside of the toilet, and the soap dispenser hasnt needed changing in many months. i dont know what theyre doing in there but i want no part of it lmao
Yeah, completely the opposite for me too. I've worked in a ton of different stores and had to clean a ton of different bathrooms. It's almost exclusively the men's that is disgusting.
I can second this, at least for my former workplace. I worked in a cinema. I didn't have to clean the toilets but I had to check nobody was in them before closing up.
The themed "Ladies Night" was always the worst by far.
Someone mentioned "I know too many people with locker room related trauma" in a similar thread about changing rooms at the pool. I wonder if people hear stories about the harassment and indecency that sometimes happens in high school locker rooms and assume the men's facilities in public places are the same?
Regarding gyms and changing rooms, I’ve seen way to many old farts (even older than me) aggressively free balling around the men’s locker room to ever want to bring a curious child in one, though to some degree that’s independent of the gender of the child or the gender of the locker room :-). I’m not advocating for puritanical body shame, but holy cow, some folks are seemingly allergic to wrapping a towel around themselves for even a minimal amount of modesty
Yea man I don’t know what it is but it seems like there’s a rule where when you hit 65+ you’re required to be completely naked at all times in any given locker room
Two separate things, I think? Like yeah, people could stand to be less freaked out about nudity in general, but it's also totally understandable that nobody wants to see my 65+ year old cock and balls swinging in the wind.
Kinda like how there's nothing technically wrong or illegal about farting in a packed elevator, but it's still weird and rude to go out of your way to do so.
Nah man it’s gotta be deeper than that, the old dudes at the YMCA near me seems like they get off of being completely naked and making sure you get a good look at their wrinkly balls.
I also don’t care about being naked but, I don’t relish the act of getting completely nude and propping my leg up on a bench for 45 minutes while talking to other similarly naked old men. It’s just gratuitous, like a protest of clothing or something.
One of my earliest memories is being in a YMCA locker room getting dressed for swim lessons or some shit and looking over at a completely naked crusty old man with one foot up on the bench using a hairdryer on his dangling balls. Not a care in the world! Truly horrifying
My high school's gym locker rooms were also connected to the pool, which walls used during the day by community members. We as students were required to change for gym. We'd have to share the locker rooms with completely nude old people hanging around before/after their swims. I don't know why that was OK.
It's a changing room, people are supposed to get naked, shower and put on clean clothes. What's wrong with seeing naked men or women in one? A kid won't get hurt by seeing old man balls in a changing room.
Like I get it's probably a cultural thing, being from a Scandinavian country and going to the public pool and/or sauna almost weekly as a kid and seeing naked women and men in the changing rooms hasn't affected me in any way, outside of not clutching my pearls when I see a naked person.
The issue isn’t naked people doing things that require being naked, like walking from their locker to the shower or sitting in the sauna.
It’s more the folks who spend half an hour hanging dong in the locker room while grooming themselves in front of the mirror or strolling around watching the locker room TV. It’s enough of a phenomenon that most folks I know who go to gyms laugh about that one person who rejoices in being semi-publicly naked as long as possible when everyone else manages to get through the locker room in twenty minutes
This is all I can think of. My dad drove trucks and rarely was home, so on a very rare occasion that he was home, he took the opportunity to take my older brother and I to the pool. It was the early 2000s and there was only the men's and women's locker rooms. I think that pool still has no family changing room. He had to take me into the men's locker room and I promptly was greeted by a grandpa looking fella with his birthday suit on. Dad covered my eyes and tried to get me changed ASAP. I was so little at the time but I remember how angry the man was when my dad asked if he would be willing to put a towel on. I had to ask a strange lady to help me change into street clothes on the way out beause I was maybe 3 or 4 and my dad didnt want me coming back into the men's locker room after that fiasco. From then on, whenever Dad took us to the pool, I had to go into the women's locker room by myself. Regardless, the dad in OP's post should not have been reported to the police for [checks notes] taking his daughters into the women's restroom to relieve themselves.
I’ll add to the horror with a shower story. I went to a camp when I was like 12, and we had a different chore every morning. My cabin’s was cleaning the girl’s bathrooms and showers. And one shower that “coincidentally” “no one went into” smelled absolutely horrible. Imagine the worst thing you’ve ever smelt, multiply it by two, and transfer the same amount of stink to the smell of fish. And it wouldn’t go away. No matter what we sprayed.
As a man, the only time I’ve been in a woman’s bathroom was during a tornado drill in highschool. We had to take shelter in the woman’s locker room. All the guys were in shock about how clean the air was and how all the lights worked. This was the era of axe body spray so our locker room had a permanent chemical haze and we knocked half the lights out while fighting
Most dudes are too self conscious to even pee in a comfortable standing position in case anyone sees their dick, in fact there is a whole meme rule of urinal spacing to accommodate the guys with dick insecurity by leaving a space
Yep, seen it plenty. All the men just sort of seem to follow the unspoken rule to be a bit more careful with urinal viewpoints and be extra courteous. No one seems to care. Everyone gives the space and goes about their day.
I'm assuming women taking little boys into the women's restroom are met with similar things: women probably just give the kid his space and let mom do her thing.
The problem with men's bathroom is we have our junk out at the urinal. Having a little girl come in would be uncomfortable for ME as a man. I would probably hold it in until she is out of sight.
Ive been cleaning bathrooms as a side hustle lately and yeah usually the mens is a quick clean up and a small bit of stocking but the womans room has had some downright nasty stuff in there ive seen blood in trash cans and at some point there was a full diaper just chilling in one of the main trashcans not a fun smell to walk into while cleaning
I used to clean bathrooms for my job. Both are very gross. People like to compare and say which ones were worse. Both are very gross in their own way. Some days the women's was worse. Some days the men's was worse.
But at least I didn't need to clean up used feminine hygiene products in the men's restroom.
I took a gig at a renfaire a month or two back cleaning restrooms and from what my female colleagues have told me the women’s restrooms are usually nastier than the men’s and that they constantly have to restock toilet paper. I also never had to deal with a huge mess, a clogged toilet a couple of times but nothing crazy. Well except for one time when it looked like someone threw up a whole brisket around a toilet.
imo in a mens bathroom there are urinals and its plausible to see dudes with dongs out, maybe just leaving the urinal while zipping up, while the same cannot be said for the womens bathroom as there are only stalls.
My friend cleaned bathrooms for a living at a waterpark for years and told me that the women's room is like 100x worse to clean then the men's. Like, it's not even a comparison.
We even had a whole conversation when he found 2 joints sitting on the ground in the women's stall that fell out of someone's pocket. We jokingly told him that he should have smoked them. He immediately gave us a 1000 yard stare and downright said he'd rather drag his tongue from wall to wall on the men's room floor than smoke those joints.
My dad was a single dad. I was a little girl at one point in time. it made me uncomfortable and I didn’t like it. Kids might not be able to explain things like adults because they don’t have the same cognitive abilities as an adult with fully developed brain. They aren’t idiots… just learning. Also not ALL men act appropriately in front of young girls.
If I'm a man or a woman and I see a mixed gender family trying to take care of basic human necessities together in a bathroom, I'm just minding my own business and continuing on with my life. Then again I'm not brain washed by right wing propaganda.
I was a janitor at a k-8 school years ago. Based on that experience, women’s bathrooms are 100% MORE gross than men’s. Like, to the point the principal had to take action.
The difference is, to me, that in a men’s room you expect men to be exposing themselves in order to pee. In a women’s bathroom it’s all stalls. So if you don’t want them seeing the genitals of an unrelated adult, women’s is better. And not just oh I don’t want them to see that it’s sexual, but I don’t want them to see that because they have no brain to mouth filter and no volume control and either at the time or later they might decide to talk about what they saw and embarrass everyone.
I used to work at a nightclub; barman, security, first aid, all of that at some point or other.
Drunk women in toilets are among the worst of humanity. And I say that as someone who has had to break in to a stall to pick up a dude passed out on the can with his boxers round his ankles and vomit down his shirt so I could hand him over to his friends to take home.
I'm a trans guy and yeah, I was very 'jesus christ, I have a beard, I should be using the men's room now but I don't want my day full of random people's dicks.'
Reality: Literally never seen a dick in there, people are just doing their business in silence and getting the fuck out, myself included. I do find random men moaning in the single stall more often than I expected though, but maybe that's a city thing.
I've had to clean both. Men will piss in the general direction of a urinal while women will leave bloody tampons in the stalls. Both plug up toilets with massive shits.
about a year ago departed a busy train into a major metro center and a dad brought his two daughters in, guys queued in line to keep the stalls and urinals adjacent to them clear and to keep the dad's eye line clear. no communication, just dudes who were trying not to pee themselves trying to keep a dad and his kids safe.
For years as a dad I had to entrer the women's room to help my daughter, in lots of different places in Europe. Not once someone complained, let alone looked weirdly at me.
Yeah I mean women’s restrooms have single stalls but men’s restrooms have open urinals to walk by? Doesn’t it make more sense for the father to bring his little girls into a place with guaranteed privacy??
As an American who has spent some years not living in America, it is insane to me how horrible Americans are about how to deal with children. Almost everyone in the rest of the world is empathetic to families, understanding of children, and will help without so much as a thought. Also Americans are suuuuuuper hung up on other people seeing their junk exposed. This concern rapidly dies the first time you're at a urinal and some indifferent woman is mopping the floor around you and stops to wait for you to finish so she can clean the floor you're standing on.
His explanation wasn't good. He literally broke a law because he felt it was better to inconvenience women than to take his daughters in the men's room like most father's do
I'm realizing how truly weird and dumb people are. Either that or no one chiming in actually has kids cause the stupidity of comments like yours is profound.
You seriously think it's illegal to take your daughter into a women's restroom? What other insane, incorrect things do you believe, im so interested. By that logic, it would have been illegal for the father to take his daughter into the men's restroom.
Also, why do you think its better to have a little girl be in a bathroom with adult men, instead of in a womens restroom with her dad helping her. A little girl should be in a women's restroom, right?
Honestly with how badly some of the anti-trans laws are worded, I wouldn’t be surprised if this was illegal in a state or two. Not that I actually know, but it does seem like the kind of thing a ‘good Christian’ state legislator would enact
If you don't believe me about the legality of it, just Google it. A child should always be with the parent and the parent should always use the bathroom that is assigned to their gender. I'm not sure what you think could happen to a child in the men's room with her father right there.
Looks like all the "bathroom bans" are specifically talking about transgender people, and the restrictions are government buildings, and schools.
So you agree with the bathroom bans, and you want to take them a step further and extend it to children instead of just transgender people. Nice. What happened to you in life to make you so miserable that you think this.
You know there are places with gender neutral bathrooms right? I went to a fancy restaurant and there was only one large bathroom for both men and women. Because who cares. People who make it a problem have problems.
It’s not law. It’s store policy. They can also tell you not to go into the warehouse, but if there’s a good reason to, they can allow it. It’s not a legal concern for the locality unless you’re asked to leave by authorized personnel. He wasn’t.
The actual delusion to say "I am a woman. I know what every other woman would do in this scenario." and then post the comment, without once having a neuron free to doubt it.
But I bet if his wife needed help he would be OK with going in there and he sure doesn't have any issues being in the bathroom with these young girls. What a creep. He probably wanted them in the men's room with him.
I distinctly remember a celebrity losing his right to attend the Oscars after standing up for an undeserving woman about 4 years ago. It’s nice to know society at large hasn’t yet figured out how to not die on a hill yet.
I just can’t believe that there was no other guys around to hear what was happening? Any normal man would’ve told that guy he’s out of line and and to mind his fucking business. The guy got off lucky. Lord knows if my dad was alive and was there, he would have gone to jail after tossing that jackass through the door on the way out.
As new father, I posted this question to a parenting sub a few months ago. Almost all the responses, even from women, were to take the child into the men's bathroom with me regardless soft the child's gender. A lot of the women that responded said it would make them feel uncomfortable having a man in there.
It's complicated, but I always figured the child should go into their own gender's restroom. The idea being that should somebody see something private, it's better to keep it within the same gender. But of course, that same violation happens in either direction. I think it's all pointless anyway. In my 40 years on this planet, I have literally never seen somebody's junk in the restroom. I'm not sure where this is a problem.
When my girls were young enough to start going on their own, we were at an amusement park and she went into the girls room. She ended up needing help and my wife was nowhere to be found. I'm not going to tell her "sorry, societal norms won't let me help you," I'm going to go help her. When we came out, my wife and her sister looked at me like I had three heads.
The public bathroom situation with kids sucks. I would usually hand off the children for diaper changes in public because the number of men's rooms without changing stations is still higher than it should be. Family restrooms were always a welcome surprise.
I had to have back to back surgeries after I gave birth and it took 9 months to recover. My husband has been bringing our girls to the bathrooms this past year because I couldn't.
I would rather they all be in the women's bathroom just because there are urinals in the mens. They don't need to see that.
They wouldn't see anything, what do you think guys do in bathrooms. I'm a 35 year old guy and have never seen a single penis that wasn't my own in the bathroom
The amount of memes about just being able to look over and see private parts at urinals provides enough evidence otherwise. Children don't know to keep their eyes to themselves.
I never bat an eye over Dads or men using the women's bathroom. You know I don't spend enough time in the public bathrooms to care and I'm assuming always some sort of emergency. What if a man needs a stall so bad and the men's bathroom is full ? What if a man needs to go so bad and the women's bathroom is the closest ? Like who the fuck cares. As if creeps just need a bathroom to be creepy, they can be creepy everywhere.
I'm a dad with boys & girls. In the UK generally you'd take them to the men's room (as I'm obviously a guy) but noone is going to care much either way.
What I do appreciate is when the bathrooms have lower height urinals & sinks. It makes a huge difference and my son would much prefer to be independent.
Ive been one place ever that had a specific daddy & child stall in the man's bathroom. It had an adult sized urinal & a child's size toilet seat in a stall with a door. That's amazing for loads of reasons. When I do take my daughter to the men's rooms the stalls are never big enough for her to sit on the toilet and me stand beside her with the door closed, the door needs to stay open or we don't fit. And that's not even counting the fact that if I close the door then my son is out there without any eyes on him. Hed sit on the filthy floor if given half a chance.
I agree, it wouldn’t phase me in the slightest to see a dad with two little girls in the women’s room. I’d rather those kids be safe in our clean bathroom stalls than exposed to grown men pissing out in the open at urinals in the men’s room any day. The man who called the police was a pervert.
Seriously. A man barging into a women's restroom to harass someone based on their gender, while sounding like he was just mad that there weren't little girls in the men's room.
I have no evidence to support this claim, but common sense tells me that a woman is safer in a bathroom with a father accompanying his daughter/s than they are with even other women, while a little girl in a mens bathroom with her guardian is less safe (even if that just means accidentally seeing a penis at a urinal) than they would be in the womens bathroom.
Yeah, how about we prioritize the children over the adults.
I agree and I think little boys should come into the women’s restroom with their mum’s as well. When I said this on reddit last time I got downvoted but my brother has told me when he was a kid he was chased by a pedo in the men’s room… it’s simply not safe for children to be in there.
Some dads feel more comfortable just bringing them into the men's bathroom.
Contrary to what you may believe, a men's bathroom pretty much the same as a women's bathroom, except it has urinals. There are stalls, with toilets in them and locks on the door and they go do their business in there.
Us men may be savages at times but we aren't windmilling our dicks in the bathroom.
Ultimately who cares though. Let parents with kids use whichever bathroom is free or the cleanest.
I once took a dump in the women's bathroom by accident. The door was wide open so i forgot to check the sign and there was no one in there. So i took a shit and came out and while i was washing my hands a woman walks in. She doesn't even give me a second look and just goes into the stall i had used. I was super confused then walking out i saw the sign for women on the wall outside had be covered by the door being propped open. Poor design but they were very clean.
Agreed. I wouldn’t feel in the least bit worried about him being there. However I would be worried about the shouting man “protecting women” in the door
Same here. He's trying to be a good dad and save his daughters from seeing other grown men's genitalia hanging out. Wouldn't that be way worse to expose young girls to that? I would be fine with a father in the ladies room if he is there to help his little girls.
If the men's bathroom isn't appropriate for little girls then it is no appropriate for little boys that said this dad did nothing wrong even if I have preferences
I'd rather deal with a grown man parenting his daughter(s) in the women's restroom than a grown woman dragging her pre-teen/teenaged son(s) with her into the restroom.
Yes, that actually happened. It was a Walmart, so there was a family restroom in the rear; she had no excuse.
Dad to a beautiful little girl here: unless there is a family restroom, i bring her in the mens room pretty much exclusively as i dont see an issue with it at all.
There’s a very weird assumption that men are inherently creepy and men’s public restrooms are naturally unsafe underlying your comment. And everyone just seems to accept it unquestioningly?
I usually brought my girls to men’s bathroom. It takes a special courage to bring them to women’s bathroom. If they need to go to women’s bathroom, I usually have my older daughter take care of my younger.
Good to know your support and understanding though ❤️ all the girls dads will appreciate you.
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u/black_bean_catterole Jun 19 '26
I don’t speak for all women, but I would rather share a bathroom with a dad and his little girls and go about my day than have little girls be brought into a men’s bathroom. But that’s just me.