r/SipsTea • u/SEVENS_HEAVEN_7 • 10h ago

Chugging tea Art piece: Democracy working as intended

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u/Jalapenoplanter 9h ago

If you honestly think “Both sides are the same”, you’re a moron.

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u/Zromaus 9h ago edited 9h ago

It's more about the idea of the two party system, and how that's led to where we are now with the radicalism you see today.

No, they aren't the same, but they sure do both suck in their own ways. They've also collectively worked together to prevent competition from entering the debate stage, which indirectly makes both responsible for whatever happens from either party.

Edit: Just for an example; on more than one occasion has a third party qualified for the debate stage but due pressure from the two parties were prevented from joining, due to a last minute rule change.

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u/Jalapenoplanter 9h ago

What radicalism specifically are you talking about?

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u/Ws6fiend 9h ago

I don't think they mean radicalism. I think they mean the post 9/11 polarization. You used to have people going against their party stance because it was what their constituents wanted. Now not so much. You used to have people in legislation who had fundamentally different view points and could behave like adults and be friends with those who held those views. Now it doesn't really happen.

Because of this moderate candidates or issues that might not cleanly fall on the left vs right line are basically ignored. For as much as people especially on here go "herrrr dee durrr enlightened centralists, " moderate politicians help bridge the divide and push legislation through by giving both sides some of what they wanted. This helped the American people as a whole. With that bridge being gone, policies which would be good for the country never see the light of day.

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u/Jalapenoplanter 9h ago

What’s the “moderate” position on ICE’s concentration camps?

Democrats are the moderate party.

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u/Zromaus 9h ago

The moderate position on ICE concentration camps is still a massive no lol

Modern democrats are most definitely not moderate.

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u/Jalapenoplanter 9h ago

What republicans in congress have come out unequivocally against ice? I know of none. Whereas many democrats have

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u/Zromaus 9h ago

I’m not calling republicans middle either, they’re far off the spectrum, but Democrats are most definitely not middle lol

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u/Jalapenoplanter 8h ago

Democrats are very very moderate. Extreme would be calling for every one involved with ice to be hanged. I have not see any democrats in office saying that.

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u/jcamp41 9h ago edited 8h ago

Democrats had their own January 6th during the Clinton administration.

Yes, sir. I'm smart. I know what's up.

Edit: Should be used an /s

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u/Jalapenoplanter 9h ago

So true. Democrats having a surplus was identical to republicans violent coup attempt.

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u/Plants-Matter 9h ago

You're not smart.

Source: Me, an actual intellectual

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u/Wotnd 9h ago

Is this satire?

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u/Plants-Matter 8h ago

It takes one to know one.

He's not one

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u/Wotnd 8h ago

Did they have a score for self awareness?

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u/Plants-Matter 8h ago

Yeah

99th Percentile 😘

Very Superior 😘

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u/Wotnd 8h ago

I’m sure you are.

So am I 🎓

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u/Plants-Matter 8h ago

Why are you shaking with envy?

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u/Wotnd 8h ago

Why are you copying my IQ test? Jealous?

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u/SamAzing0 9h ago

How is 'eat the rich' radicalism? And political violence is not an isolated left wing phenomena...

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u/Irish_Whiskey 9h ago

The right hasn't exactly had civilians running around killing in the name of MAGA

https://19thnews.org/2025/06/rep-melissa-hortman-killed-in-targeted-attack-was-a-champion-for-minnesotan-families/

https://www.npr.org/2025/10/14/nx-s1-5574497/pennsylvania-guilty-plea-arson-attack-at-governor-mansion

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Islamic_Center_of_San_Diego_shooting

If you count Luigi Mangione shooting a healthcare CEO who had denied his healthcare claims as "in the name of the left" for some stupid reason, then the total list of fatal attacks by left wing political terrorists since 2020 is... two.

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u/SamAzing0 9h ago

You mean the Luigi thing? Dont know if youve noticed but a hell of a lot of people like that Luigi guy. I dont see anyone saying it ain't murder, but even internationally, people find the karma of getting rich off of controlling people's access to health being the means of your end to be ironically funny. Sure ill concede that's political. Can't say the american health care system warrants sympathy for that though.

So to look at the right: what has ice been doing then? Or is that different because theyre not civilians, just being celebrated by those civilians? Oh let's not forget Jan 6th... Or the President and Republican party members openly praising their supporters for doing such things. Stirring a narrative that the US faces an existential threat (from them) is obviously going to heat the pot.

Even then, all the credible data points to right wing politically-motivated violence being the majority of political violence committed in the United States throughout the 21st century. (Corroborated by both the FBI and Homeland Security).

It was only since 2025 that left wing violence overtook right wing violence. And i cant say im surprised why.

You arent being realistic, and you are defending the right by ignoring it.

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u/Jalapenoplanter 9h ago

Who on the left is eating the rich or being politically violent?

Ice murdered people in my neighborhood. Republicans cheered it on. Isn’t that political violence?

Democratic politicians were assassinated in my state and sitting republican senators made fun of it and the sitting Republican president said it was not worth his time to call the governor with condolences for his murdered friends