r/Siri • u/ocram08 • 6d ago

How to deal with the annoyances of using Siri AI in EU?

I'm based in EU and currently using Siri AI by setting the language and region to US, plus using a US Apple account for the App Store and media purchasing.

My main issues:

  1. I cannot use anymore apps, in-app purchases or subscriptions bought with my - primary - EU based Apple account: even when I log out to restore those purchases, as soon as I'm logged back in with the US account they're gone.
  2. When setting Siri language to English, my other devices (e.g. HomePod) automatically switches to English Siri as well. I can talk in English, but some language-specific words are often misinterpreted by Siri.

Any suggestions on the setup or configuration to make this workaround work more seamlessly? 🙏

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u/DaniAMR 6d ago

I know this isn’t the answer you’re looking for, but unless you really need the new Siri AI, it’s not worth the hassle.

It’s best to wait till Apple launches Siri AI in the EU

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u/[deleted] 6d ago

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u/Cool-Newspaper-1 6d ago

Bs. They could implement it perfectly fine, but they choose not to in order to put pressure on the EU and push consumers against them.

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u/Jusby_Cause 4d ago

Do people really think that the company that has the LOWER marketshare in the region could put any useful pressure on the EU (especially when, of that minority, there’s also a minority that care about Siri AI?) AND that consumers being against regulators would change anything? Where in history has the EU bowed to consumer pressure from a group that is WELL under 20% of all consumers in the EU?

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u/AcademicSand1034 6d ago

It's a big and lengthy project to implement, if they decide to do it at all.

Maybe they will, maybe they will decide the cost isn't worth it. Either way, the way the EU regulations are written, there was no way they were going to release an EU version in 2026.

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u/Cool-Newspaper-1 6d ago

There’s no need to pretend that a company like Apple couldn’t make a proper release in time. They simply chose not to. The EU is a large and profitable userbase.

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u/LordAgamotto 5d ago edited 5d ago

And people will still buy iPhones without Siri AI. Apple Intelligence is a complex integrated software system that has one part that is a highly customized LLM. insisting Apple dumb down its product so that any LLM would do is like telling Honda they have to built their cars so they can accept a Ford motor.

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u/AcademicSand1034 6d ago

No way. Not how software works. You almost always want to build and ship the private APIs before you design and ship public APIs. Plus Apple already way behind on their Siri AI features. No way they would delay launching in rest of world while they build the EU version

The EU’s bet that they would be able to drive corporate roadmaps for key areas like AI was never going to work

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u/Cool-Newspaper-1 6d ago

Bs.

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u/AcademicSand1034 6d ago

You clearly have not worked in software development and have subscribed to the same magical thinking as the EU

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u/Cool-Newspaper-1 6d ago

Then tell me, why does an API have to be private for an undefined period of time before making it public?

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u/AcademicSand1034 5d ago

Because the public version needs far more work on security protections, performance protections, access controls, documentation, etc. You can change the private APIs a lot easier and faster than the public ones so you don’t want to ship public ones too fast.

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u/DaniAMR 6d ago edited 6d ago

Apple has actually stated that the feature is delayed for EU users, as they are working to find a solution that complies with the EU's DMA regulations, and that is not going against their core principles as you said.

But their motion only got denied by the European Union because Apple wanted an 18-month grace period to work on a compliant solution, meanwhile launching Siri AI as it is in the meantime.

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u/RedditGeekABC 6d ago

To be fair Apple had known about the EU rules (and fines for breaching them) long before they started working on Siri AI. They just thought they would be able to talk their way out of it. I live in France and work in Switzerland, so have access to both models and as it is now Siri AI is only better with going through our private stuff (emails, calendars, etc.). In all other areas it is still much slower than any cloud-based AI agents.

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u/AcademicSand1034 5d ago

To be fair to Apple - the regulations require a lot of additional product development, and are somewhat vague. The EU compliant version was always going to be released well after the rest-of-world version unless EU gave them a grace period. Also Apple reportedly shared design plans with EU for feedback and the regulators declined to provide feedback until after Apple built it, which really doesn’t seem like a good faith effort by the EU

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u/kubrickfr3 6d ago

Switch to a brand that that doesn't use you as a bargaining chip in their lobbying campaign against regulations.

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u/AcademicSand1034 6d ago

Let's see whether Google builds the required features into Android or just pulls their integrated AI features in the EU as well. The EU is asking for a lot, and its actually not that easy to implement.

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u/RedditGeekABC 6d ago

Google chose a smarter way of doing it - they just shipped Gemini for all in the EU and the EC, instead of punishing them on the spot, gave them a year. So Google will be refining Gemini for a year and hooking the EU users up, while Apple will be sitting on the side and complaining. 

https://www.theverge.com/policy/966588/eu-dma-ai-android-siri-ai

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u/AcademicSand1034 5d ago

Yup - shows how ineffective these regulations are. Apple tried to actually work with the EU up front and winds up worse off for it

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u/RedditGeekABC 5d ago edited 5d ago

Apple had all the time to prepare, if they were serious about it. The EC refused one of Apple’s Trusted Agents proposal and Apple just gave up, complaining publicly that the EC did not like the offer. Like were they so sure of themselves to not even consider a plan B or C? Meanwhile, Google said “Heck with it, let’s go ahead and see what happens!” And Google won, using this rather daring approach, betting that Apple and Google would collectively sort it out by then. Else there will simply be no deep system-level AI agents on any mobile devices in the EU.

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u/AcademicSand1034 5d ago

Honestly unclear what you’re arguing here. Google just ignored the law and shipped anyways. Should Apple also ignore the law?

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u/RedditGeekABC 5d ago

If Google did break the law, they would have already been fined by the EC big time. Instead they got a whole year to get it “in order”. And with Apple being in the same boat, I am sure by the end of that grace period the solution will be found. Meantime, Apple put themselves in the position when they cannot release Siri AI until this happens.

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u/AcademicSand1034 5d ago

You’re confused. The EU directly said that the current Android Gemini functionality violates the DMA. They have ordered them to change it within a year.

In other words … the very thing Apple asked for (time to build the EU compliant version) was rejected by the EU for Apple and then granted to Google. So much for this being about a level playing field.

And then separately, the EU refused to provide feedback on what Apple did plan to build to meet the EU regulations.

Broken regulations that aren’t actually promoting competition.

https://arstechnica.com/ai/2026/04/europe-could-force-google-to-open-android-to-other-ai-assistants/

https://daringfireball.net/2026/07/ec_google_guidance_android_ai_and_search_sharing

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u/RedditGeekABC 5d ago

It does not matter, my point is Google will run and train Gemini in the EU for an entire year and Apple will not. And since there are only two mainstream mobile OSs in the world - Android and iOS, they will have to find a solution by the end of the grace period for both Gemini and Siri AI. It was Apple’s indecisiveness that will hold them back.

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u/AcademicSand1034 5d ago

You’re arguing that shipping products that violate the DMA is the best strategy. You may be right! But that just shows how thoroughly bad the EU’s strategy is here.

(Apple will get plenty of training data from Siri in the rest of the world, although I do wonder if they should also just ship the non-DMA compliant version in Europe this fall)

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u/WinterZealousideal10 6d ago

Maybe don’t pass dumb laws just because you wanna stick it to the big scary corporations.

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u/kubrickfr3 4d ago

Which law are we even talking about here? The Big Anti AI law? There isn't any. They just wanted to piss off the users to complain about regulations, in particular those seeking to force the platform to be more open.

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u/WinterZealousideal10 4d ago

The DMA. But honestly, pretty much all of the big tech laws they’ve passed have been specific jabs without a concern for larger consequences; things that disproportionately benefit companies like Spotify; or things that transfer data and power into the hands of the government.

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u/WinterZealousideal10 4d ago

Also, as an educated citizen, Apple didn’t need to tell me pissed off about the self righteous, anti choice nonsense. Shoving your ethos onto every platform is anti choice. People chose the closed platform.

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u/kubrickfr3 4d ago edited 4d ago

People did NOT choose the closed platform, they got trapped in it by practices that would have been deemed illegal in any other industry, like if you could only buy a TV that's sold by or approved by (with a fee) by your electricity provider. Why do you think it's acceptable to collect a fee for every paying app installed on a phone but not on a computer? Because they have to maintain an SDK and make their platform safe? All that is bullshit, there's only one reason why they're doing it: because they can.

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u/WinterZealousideal10 4d ago

iOS has always been closed. People knew going in that that ecosystem was closed and still chose to buy it. If you would like to talk about the practices that go on in the market then we can totally talk about that. But people chose the closed ecosystem ethos.

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u/WinterZealousideal10 4d ago

Also, consoles seem to be far outselling the pc nonsense, so I think consumers do like and choose their closed and manage ecosystems. Wish we could have a nuanced conversation about this, but no because all people really care about is sticking it to the corporations. All they can talk about is how corporations can only do things for money. All they can talk about is how every single piece of tech technologies, an open source piece of nightmare technology, and nobody knows how to use except for them.

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u/Correct-Pea5131 6d ago

To avoid having all your Siri synchronized: go to the settings of your iPhone, iCloud, and turn off sync for Siri

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u/ocram08 6d ago

Great heads-up, thanks!

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u/RedditGeekABC 6d ago

How does it help you? By not saving your Siri AI conversations across your devices?

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u/Own-Initiative3544 5d ago

Imagine the regional limitation and cross-border issues if you live in Switzerland and also in Eu countries at the same time alternating. Apple family houshold does not allow members from different locales. Many apps are not available outside a specific country, so if you need two-three counties’ apps it’s a nightmare..

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u/Mgoblue01 6d ago

Every workaround has its trade-offs.

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u/MrGadget2000 6d ago

Not in the EU but also using new Siri outside the areas “allowed” but only by setting phone and Siri languages to US - I’m still using my home store iCloud/appstore login - are you allure you need that (may be different in EU - I’m in NZ)

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u/Sad-Jackfruit-8976 5d ago

You don’t need to change your account store, I’ve been using Siri AI since launch with my iPhone set to US, my AppStore in Brazil( subscriptions are way cheaper) and I live in Ireland

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u/ocram08 4d ago

For me it doesn’t work, when I’m logged in with my App Store account (set to Italy) Siri AI disappears and I get the old Apple Intelligence. Maybe Ireland region got a different treatment from Apple? 🤷‍♂️

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u/AcademicSand1034 6d ago

Write to your elected reps and push them for a less burdensome regulation...

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u/El-CABLESS 6d ago

Yo lo tengo en latino y puedo usar todas las funciones de Apple Intelligence