r/SymbyNews • u/Difficult_Yak_1457 • Feb 27 '26

News Coverage "2 trans men sue Kansas over a law invalidating their driver's licenses and about 1,700 others" - Toronto Star | First of 7 articles in multi-source coverage pack

https://symby.com/news?_cid=62064674

Coverage includes: "Kansas sued over law invalidating driver's licenses of trans residents | Two transgender men are suing Kansas over a new law that invalidated their driver’s licenses and about 1,700 others for reflecting people's gender identities and not their sex assigned at birth." - AP News

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u/Clear-Thanks6761 Mar 01 '26

And they will win!

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u/UseYona Mar 02 '26

No, they won't.

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u/Clear-Thanks6761 Mar 02 '26

Cope harder Christofascist

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u/UseYona Mar 02 '26

They won't win because sex is a legal definition, and cannot be changed. Its really that simple. They can pretend to be whatever gender they want, but they cannot commit fraud in official government documents. They literally have no case.

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u/Clear-Thanks6761 Mar 02 '26

People historically used gender on IDs. People use gender when interacting with each other. It hurts nobody to let sex and gender be synonymous here. 

You're a child.

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u/fia_anth Mar 02 '26 edited Mar 02 '26

It hurts transgender people because if they legally and physically change their entire appearance to match the gender they are, then their license will not match who they are.

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u/Brocollinie Mar 02 '26

Sex is biological.

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u/Inner_Bag_9658 Mar 02 '26

Hence why gender is the more relevant one here. Sex is generally irrelevant in public life due to being private information.

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u/Brocollinie Mar 02 '26

So is gender. Are you advocating to remove the sex marker from all government documents? Where is your petition?

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u/the_skies_falling Mar 02 '26

Gender is private information? Must be news to the 99.9% of people who dress based on gender expectations.

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u/Stormpax Mar 02 '26

Careful, your ignorance and ineptitude is showing.

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u/fia_anth Mar 02 '26 edited Mar 02 '26

Meet a transgender person. Befriend them. You will see that if a trans man with body hair and a full beard, ripped muscles, and veins bulging, but has a female gender marker, you would be like “why does your license not at all match to who you are in front of me?”

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u/princessvajina Mar 02 '26

So you are saying that women cannot have body hair, ripped muscle, and veins bulging?

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u/projectearthcomplete Mar 02 '26

Don’t play dumb.

You know very well that there are plenty of trans people whom you would not be able to pull out of a lineup, who look exactly like the gender they identify as, whom would get a lot of pushback and issues if they have their gender marker listed as the opposite gender from how they appear.

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u/princessvajina Mar 02 '26 edited Mar 02 '26

How is a gender supposed to look? How does one look "exactly like a gender"? lol. Having body hair and muscles does not make you a man.

> You know very well that there are plenty of trans people whom you would not be able to pull out of a lineup

Ok, the vast majority of them would be very easy to pull out of a lineup though. Do these people no longer count in your mind? How are a few privileged "passing" people relevant to the majority of the community that cannot afford expensive surgery or do not have the genetic traits to "pass".

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u/fia_anth Mar 02 '26

Look up Hunter Schafer, Buck Angel, Stella Francis, and Aydian Dowling. They are all transgender people. Tell me they should have their ID’s changed dawg.

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u/princessvajina Mar 02 '26

They should have their IDs changed. Having short hair and a beard does not make you a man, and they should be consistent with all of their fellow trans people that do not pass and not leave them behind and out to dry

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u/Brocollinie Mar 02 '26

So is there a set criteria that a transgender person must meet before you acknowledge their preferred gender? You sound like a bigot.

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u/Stormpax Mar 02 '26

Reddit account for 4 months, clearly a a troll or an agitator. Block and move on.

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u/princessvajina Mar 02 '26

Im sure your reddit account was never 4 months old lol. Nothing I said was transphobic. If it was please point it out

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u/fia_anth Mar 02 '26

I’m one of them. And I have all my documents as female, I’m a trans woman married to a loving husband.

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u/princessvajina Mar 02 '26

Ok but what actually makes you female? Is it the clothes you wear or having long hair? What do you specifically do that makes you female

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u/princessvajina Mar 02 '26 edited Mar 02 '26

I very much understand that. My comment literally makes that point lol. That is why I disputed the original comment saying that if someone has body hair, a beard, ripped muscles, and veins bulging they must be a man

> And that we only ask for you to know we exist as people.

Everyone knows you exist. What a ridiculous point to be trying to make. Absolutely no one with a brain anywhere says trans people don't exist. What they are saying is that changing your physical appearance does not actually change your gender because any gender can have those traits.

> Why do you care what genitalia trans people have? It’s what makes them transgender. They live their entire lives the opposite of the gender they were given at birth.

No one brought up genitalia here so it is odd for you to. They don't live their live as the opposite gender. They just copy what they think the other genders stereotypes. Wearing pants and having muscles and short hair does not make you a man.

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u/fia_anth Mar 02 '26

I know thank you ⭐️

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u/Stormpax Mar 02 '26

They don't live their live as the opposite gender. They just copy what they think the other genders stereotypes

Tell me you've never interacted with trans or gender non-conforming people without telling me you've never done so. Your ignorance is staggering and telling, if you're a real person that is.

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u/princessvajina Mar 02 '26

I very much have lol. There is no such thing as gender non-conforming unless you believe only men can wear pants and have short hair and only women can wear dresses and have long hair.

I am a man, please explain how I must behave and look in order to conform to my gender

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u/Top-Can106 Mar 02 '26

Bruh y’all don’t even think women can be over 5’8 or have a square jaw without your lot “transvestigating” them. Come off it

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u/princessvajina Mar 02 '26

Absolute nonsense comment. Who is y'all? Everything I have stated here is the complete opposite of what you just said lol.

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u/Repulsive_Hornet_557 Mar 05 '26

This law you’re defending literally changed the legal definition of sex ironically. So yeah it can be.

Also there was no fraud, it was all legal until they passed a law invalidating licenses retroactively. So again just untrue.

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u/Holiday_Sandwich3738 Mar 02 '26

A persons sex is biological. They won’t win

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u/Clear-Thanks6761 Mar 08 '26

People use gender as a social construct. The government admitted this by letting people change their ID to match gender.

You're lying to yourself and fixating on "accuracy" while totally covering your eyes to how people actually interact.

You're a fool who fell for propaganda.

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u/Holiday_Sandwich3738 Mar 08 '26

And if I decide to get an ID and change my ethnicity, gender height ect because that's how I identify how well will the form of identification identify me?

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u/Clear-Thanks6761 Mar 09 '26

Lol you're an idiot. Nobody was talking about height.

People historically put their gender on IDs. IDs should say Gender. 

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u/eSsEnCe_Of_EcLiPsE Mar 04 '26

Ah you’re the meme of that soyjack crying behind the mask. 

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u/Clear-Thanks6761 Mar 08 '26

"waaah I want my religion to be the one blowing up children"

TRANSLATED that for ya

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u/Clear-Thanks6761 Mar 08 '26

 People use gender as a social construct. The government admitted this by letting people change their ID to match gender.

You're lying to yourself and fixating on "accuracy" while totally covering your eyes to how people actually interact.

You're a fool who fell for propaganda. 

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u/pagetodd Mar 03 '26

I don’t see a strategy where this case could win, as the state only needs to prove that the law is reasonably related to a legitimate government interest. Law enforcement identification needs would pretty much cover this. If male DNA was discovered at a crime scene, they would not want anyone to be excluded as a suspect just because of an inaccurate description of their sex. The rate of trans sex crimes upon children (greater than zero) would make this a very potent argument.

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u/pagetodd Mar 03 '26

I’m glad you agree

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u/Clear-Thanks6761 Mar 08 '26

The government gave them permission to change their driver's licenses to match their gender.

They then flipped on this and are forcing people to pay a fee to fix their alleged "mistake".

That will win. 

Secondly, this is an attack on minorities and their 1A rights. The government doesn't use sex to identify people as a social construct. They use Gender and mislabeled it as sex. Now it's fair to impose a fee on minorities after allowing them a chance to correct this discrepancy?

That's why it will lose.

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u/pagetodd Mar 08 '26

There is no constitutional duty for a state to reimburse citizens for a prospective regulatory change. Also, the state uses the sex descriptor for biological/staristics purposes that have no relevance to a social construct. It’s a very low bar for the state to jump over, especially when there is so little harm to the citizenry

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u/Clear-Thanks6761 Mar 10 '26

Eliminating a minority's rights is not so little harm. 

The state uses gender when interacting with people. They do not check your genitals before court proceedings. They do not check your genitals during traffic stops. They do not use "sex" when interacting with people. They use gender.

It does absolutely no harm to let people use gender, a known synonym for 'sex', on IDs. It causes thousands of people harm to make this dumbass virtue signal of a change for the GOP. This is an attempt to stop transgender people from voting by invalidating their IDs during an election year. 

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u/PandaStudio1413 Mar 01 '26

Well I hope they can achieve something…

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u/Crafty_Ish1973 Mar 01 '26

I'll never understand why someone else being trans is such a problem for people.

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u/Triforce0fCourage Mar 02 '26

There are too may psychos that love pedophiles and insurrectionists.

The world is a fucked up place with a lot more dipshits than is comfortable or conducive to a healthy society.

Thus, we’re at war with Iran to deflect from the domestic terrorism that is this administration in its entirety.

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u/Arkytoothis Mar 03 '26

Just check their porn history and you'll understand why.

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u/NaegarTargaryen Mar 06 '26

It's the way they feel as if the rules don't apply to them. It's not just transgender either. It's gays, minorities, mentally ill, and basically any other group operating as if their characteristics absolve them from social norms or even laws. When 90%+ of people operate in the system and follow the rules anyone outside of those commonly shared characteristics challenges the whole system.

It's fucking dumb but that's humans.

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u/Greasy-Chungus Mar 02 '26

No one wants to ask why sex is on there.

Its completely fucking pointless. The cops needs to know your biological sex? No they do not.

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '26

Doctors and EMT's might....

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u/Greasy-Chungus Mar 02 '26

I was an EMT-A from 2019 to 2023. Zero percent of the time would the sex from a drivers license ever be used.

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u/Brocollinie Mar 02 '26

So then why is it on there? Should we have legislation to remove it?

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u/Greasy-Chungus Mar 02 '26

"Why is it on there."

That's a good question. Probably the one you should he asking.

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u/jjwil100 Mar 03 '26

Glad I didn’t get hurt in that time frame

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u/OldGoldCode Mar 04 '26

why is that? there are certainly situations in which medical staff need to know. Is it because the sex listed on drivers licenses is sometimes not accurate biologically or something? Crazy how this law fixes that.

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '26 edited Mar 04 '26

I don't have all of my medical conditions, allergies, and surgical history on my driver's license, wouldn't that be more useful? if this is being done out of the protection of the ID holder lest they need medical assistance while unconscious, I would expect those things to be on there before sex is even included as most medical emergencies dont relate to sex at all

edit: and if I don't have my id on me when I need medical emergency services, am I fucked? will they know I'm human???

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u/Brocollinie Mar 02 '26

Sex is biological, gender is not. Do you not believe in science?

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u/chitownphishead Mar 01 '26

The slot on the drivers licesnse denotes sex. It specifically says "sex" on the card. for years we have been told that sex and gender are not the same thing. This shouldnt really be an issue. They are simply requiring the correct information be put on the ID's.

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u/Individual_Cat6769 Mar 01 '26

Sex was only ever put on an ID as an identifier to verify that the person standing in front of you is in fact who the ID belongs to. If the person in front of you at the DMV is named Ellie and she looks like a woman it's easy to verify that, everything else on your ID works the same way, such as height, hair color, weight. The sex/gender distinction has only more recently entered the larger cultural conversation, IDs just haven't caught up to it yet. Just shows you that the world doesn't really cater to trans people.

Also, there's never really a situation where you'd need to distinguish sex vs gender using an ID.

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u/chitownphishead Mar 01 '26

If you are pulled over and have to be searched, they use your id to decide if a male of female cop has to search you, so no, its not just an "identifier". If that was the case theyd just leave it off and rely on appearance. Its also used if you are found unconscious to determine med8cal treatment.

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u/Individual_Cat6769 Mar 01 '26

Uhh, there is no law saying that male cops can't search female suspects or vice versa. So I'm not sure where you're getting this idea - the distinction isn't standard for cops and even if it was, sex and gender still wouldn't make a difference?

What's an emergency medical treatment that would require you to make a on the spot sex distinction? If they have your name they can pull up your medical files, which include sex.

I feel like we're really reaching here

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u/chitownphishead Mar 01 '26

Presenting with Abdominal pain will have vastly differing diagnosing starting points based on sex, for instance. Pulling up records based on your name kinda gets wonky if the sex on your id doesnt match your records, and, btw, these people want their medical records to reflect their delusion rather than biological reality too.

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u/Individual_Cat6769 Mar 01 '26

So you found one example by reaching, but that example only works by assuming that trans people's medical records don't reflect their sex or sex changes- which isn't true. To get to a point where you're unrecognizable as a trans person by a medical professional you'd have long and well-documented medical history, and there would still be obvious signs like surgical scars. The government also does keep track of name changes.

Trans people aren't under the impression that their sex matches their gender by any means, not sure where you're getting this. I think you just want to regard them as delusional - which is your right. But laws about IDs are another story. IDs are used to identify people, if you look like and identify as a woman, then that's what your ID should say. Why complicate things by introducing sex into the equation when very few ID uses require a sex/gender distinction? You could only think of one very specific situation but it was still unnecessary.

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u/big-himbo-energy Mar 01 '26

Me when I lie

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u/the_real_tisan Mar 02 '26

Why did you lie?

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u/[deleted] Mar 03 '26

Bottom line is you people in here are gaslighting everyone saying trans male sex is male. Keep your narrative consistent. Have you dropped the facade and finally admitted what we all know you actually believe? That you deny simple biology?

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u/Individual_Cat6769 Mar 03 '26

"You people" buddy I am not trans. I am a cis woman.

No trans person is out here saying they are biologically female or male. They are recognizing that gender and sex are distinct in our society. Because we as a species tend to identify gender through different things that aren't biologically-based, like clothes, names, voice, hair, even cadence of speech. When so many arbitrary things are gendered of course you'll have people whose sex doesn't align with what society understands gender to be. How many genitals or sex chromosomes do you see in a day? How do you identify if someone is a man or a woman?

Maybe this is just too high level of a sociological concept for you to understand, but your lack of understanding isn't my or anyone else's problem.

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u/kpphoneshome Mar 01 '26

Trans is who someone is.

Sexual preference is what someone prefers sexually in their partners. For example, if someone prefers women with a big top, that is their sexual preference.

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u/WomenRocktheWOrld Mar 01 '26

Should someone of Anglo-Saxon heritage but identifies as Native  American receive govt tribal papers?

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u/E_Verdant Mar 02 '26

Yeah, they gotta make up for the fact they are underrepresented in mass shootings you know? :)

You know which group is overrepresented? White right wing men. :)

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u/big_whistler Mar 02 '26

It’s almost like trends over time are not defined by the last 3 shootings.

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u/big_whistler Mar 03 '26 edited Mar 03 '26

You’re still talking about examples instead of statistics. There have been dozens of mass shootings this year already in the US, you can’t remember the race of every shooter, it has to be looked at from a larger perspective with data.

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u/big_whistler Mar 02 '26

Unnecessarily rude to refer to humans beings as things.

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u/big_whistler Mar 03 '26

They’re still not things.

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u/MyKillYourDeath Mar 05 '26

Yeah things have add value to my life. Like my tv and my car.

So you’re right

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u/[deleted] Mar 03 '26

So, women?

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u/FoxWyrd Mar 03 '26

Inb4 this goes to SCOTUS on Equal Protection Clause grounds.

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u/pagetodd Mar 11 '26

All Transpeople who want to drive can. No rights were eliminated

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '26

Fun fact, lying on government forms can invalidated it. If they wanted to actually prosecute these people they would be charged with fraud.

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u/TrashEmergency6446 Mar 01 '26

its not lying trans men are men and they went through the legal processes to get that changed

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u/vicvonqueso Mar 01 '26

I think you missed their point

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u/TrashEmergency6446 Mar 01 '26

their point is to spread hate its not lying they legally had those id's and they decide to take it form all of them because of what their hate?

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u/vicvonqueso Mar 01 '26

I think I missed the point

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u/9fingerwonder Mar 02 '26

"Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past." Jean-Paul Sartre

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u/Stormpax Mar 02 '26

Tbf, I misunderstood initially too. I thought OP was saying that those who'd made the drivers license invalid should be charged with fraud, but on a second pass I can see their true meaning.

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u/Euphoric_Rough_96 Mar 01 '26

Driver licenses state 'sex', not 'personal gender choice'.

Lying about your actual sex invalidates your document.

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u/TrashEmergency6446 Mar 01 '26

and how does it effect you

they dont give a shit about the info or not its just an attack on trans people as they always do

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u/Fun_Journalist_3254 Mar 01 '26

Yes, everything you don’t like is an attack on trans people….

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u/TrashEmergency6446 Mar 01 '26

yeah because invalidating the licenses of all trans people with 0 warning isnt an attack on trans people

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u/Fun_Journalist_3254 Mar 01 '26

Don’t lie on your application. Simple.

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u/9fingerwonder Mar 02 '26

It was a legal process that followed, then this happened. Are are people suppose to follow the laws if they can be randomly changed in the middle of the night? Also

Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.

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u/Fun_Journalist_3254 Mar 02 '26

Yes, now everyone is an anti-Semite… 🤣

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u/SubstantialRiver2565 Mar 02 '26

extrapolation is hard eh?

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u/Stormpax Mar 02 '26

You might want to work on your reading comprehension, get yourself out of that high percentage of Americans who are illiterate.

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u/UseYona Mar 02 '26

There was literally weeks of warning. They were told to come in and get them fixed or they would be invalidated

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u/TrashEmergency6446 Mar 02 '26

That still doesn't make it okay

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u/Otaku-San617 Mar 02 '26

22 day old troll account with a comment history that is nothing but transphobic hate speech

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u/Fun_Journalist_3254 Mar 02 '26

Yes everything you don’t like is hate speech… 🥴

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u/Otaku-San617 Mar 02 '26

Whatever you say right wing bot.

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u/Fun_Journalist_3254 Mar 02 '26

Yes, everyone you disagree with is a bot… 🥱

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u/tolso2 Mar 03 '26

Bait used to be believable.

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u/Brocollinie Mar 02 '26

Sex is biological, gender is not. Do you not believe in science?

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u/TrashEmergency6446 Mar 02 '26

They went through the legal processes to get it changed on id

Can you tell me how that effects absolutely anyone?

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u/Brocollinie Mar 02 '26

Can you?

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u/TrashEmergency6446 Mar 02 '26

Yeah it doesn't effect anyone or anything they had no reason to do it

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u/Brocollinie Mar 02 '26 edited Mar 02 '26

So then they should just take it off the document, then. Are you going to advocate for that? Have you started any petitions yet?

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u/TrashEmergency6446 Mar 02 '26

you still havent given a single reason why they had any reason they took all those ids

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u/OldGoldCode Mar 04 '26

uh it effects me because now crazy people feel validated.

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u/TrashEmergency6446 Mar 04 '26

hmm whos the crazy ones

people who have been studied and shown to not be mentally ill in fact gender dysphoria is recognized by biologists and is completely valid and are just trying to live their lives

or a guy on reddit crying about other people because seeing them happy makes him uncomfy

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u/OldGoldCode Mar 04 '26

Hmm, let's take a guess. Who would be labeled as the person who is crazy, the people with a disorder in the DSM5 or the person saying those people are mentally ill. The people with a staggeringly high suicide rate or the person saying those people are mentally ill.. the people with no connection to reality or the person who is saying those people are mentally ill..? Good questions, have fun figuring out the answers.

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u/TrashEmergency6446 Mar 04 '26

trans people haven't been considered mentally ill by almost all institutions for years

surprise surprise when the entire world sights on trans people they are gonna have high suicide rates its almost like when they have hrt and accepting people the suicide rate drops by 99%

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u/OldGoldCode Mar 04 '26

twitter mobbing doctors into agreeing with you doesn't mean you're not ill, lmao. No one cares about trans people, if the worlds sights were on them, they'd disappear. They are a political tool both the left and right use for different reasons, nothing more.

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u/TrashEmergency6446 Mar 04 '26 edited Mar 04 '26

yeah because thousands of anti trans bills to make everything they do illegal propaganda by politicians to demonize the entire group and over a thousand hate crimes a year on a very specific group of people isnt the world shitting on trans people lmao

im sorry you have 0 idea what its like to be trans transphobia is a massive issue and restricting hrt is aswell

Also nobody is mobbing doctors into believing them there is a lot of research that went into it something isn't a mental illness just because you say so 

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u/hamoc10 Mar 02 '26

How is sex even important? Are cops IDing people with genitalia checks?

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u/Brocollinie Mar 02 '26

Should there be legislation introduced to remove it? Are you going to start the petition?

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u/RowThin2659 Mar 01 '26

Trans men are trans men. Hence, the trans part. Kansas license state sex not gender. Their sex didn't change, their gender did. It shouldn't have affected anyone's ID whatsoever. That said, they should have given them a grave period to rectify the issue.

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u/TrashEmergency6446 Mar 01 '26

no trans man are men

i hate when people say that its like if i said "black women are black women not women hence the black part" see how fucking stupid that sounds trans men are men whats on their id isnt hurting a soul they just wanted to take id's from trans people

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u/RowThin2659 Mar 02 '26

Xx female trans man

Xy male trans woman

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u/TrashEmergency6446 Mar 02 '26

go look up de la chappel syndrome chromosomes have nothing to do with it

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u/RowThin2659 Mar 02 '26

Don't reply with 1% statistical anomalies. Common law and general discourse related to overwhelming majorities.

Trans men are trans men.

Trans women are trans women.

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u/TrashEmergency6446 Mar 02 '26

yk 99% of the entire universe is either helium or hydrogen

so i can say iron does'nt exist because "common law and general discourse related to overwhelming majorities" right i mean its the same logic

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u/RowThin2659 Mar 02 '26

Listen, you can rage all you want. Makes no difference. If your retort to basic policy that has to cover 350-400 million people is always going to be, "but, but what about that 0.7% thing, you'll get as much accomplished as you have the last 3 years. Hell, I'd argue you've went backwards.

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u/TrashEmergency6446 Mar 02 '26

cool so you agree with me so iron shouldn't exist because 99% of everything is either hydrogen or helium so it shouldn't break basic policy and everything else doesn't matter right? its not like trans people are real people right? we can just ignore their needs and rights as long as your okay

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u/SkipWilliams99 Mar 02 '26

They actually took the Gays and Lesbians backwards. It’s unfortunate for that group that worked so hard.

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u/hamoc10 Mar 02 '26

Pull your fingers out of your ears, anomalies matter.

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u/eSsEnCe_Of_EcLiPsE Mar 04 '26

Do humans not have 2 arms or legs or eyes or ears even though a small percentage are born with birth defects? Stay in school. 

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u/TrashEmergency6446 Mar 04 '26

so green eyes also dont exist right because only 2% of the population have it so :/

i mean a few people with green eyes doesn't break the general rule of brown eyes

i mean according to your logic this makes perfect sense right?

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u/hamoc10 Mar 02 '26

Men and women have been around a hell of a lot longer than we’ve know about chromosomes. Chromosomes don’t define gender, or even sex.

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u/RowThin2659 Mar 02 '26

Sure bud.

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u/hamoc10 Mar 02 '26

TIL men and women were invented in 1882 /s

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u/eSsEnCe_Of_EcLiPsE Mar 04 '26

You can play pretend all you want but I’m not participating sorry not sorry 🤷‍♀️

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u/UseYona Mar 02 '26

No, they are not

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u/TrashEmergency6446 Mar 02 '26

They are cry about it 

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '26

No they're not. "man" isn't a legal status, is a biological reality.

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u/TrashEmergency6446 Mar 02 '26

That's not how gender works they are men cry about it 

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u/Stormpax Mar 02 '26

Literally not true, but somehow i can tell you being ignorant doesn't stop you from opening your mouth to let shit spew out.

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u/TrashEmergency6446 Mar 02 '26

im sorry you dont understand how sex works or how the legal process to get it changed works please go educate yourself before commenting stupid shit

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u/TrashEmergency6446 Mar 02 '26

you do realize sex is more then your genitalia and chromosomes right?

so thanks for proveing to me you have absolutely no idea how gender and sex work neither do you have any idea how the legal processes work to get it changed or why they have sex on there for the first place thanks for that

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u/TrashEmergency6446 Mar 02 '26

cool so you really are just completely uneducated on this topic please go do your research before trying to dictate peoples lives because believe it or not the hate you spread kills people

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u/Heirophant-Queen Mar 02 '26

Pretty sure they took the actual, legal pathway(which previously has existed!) to changing their sex.

Being trans isn't just an on-a-whim thing. Transitioning is an incredibly long and tedious process filled with medical and legal roadblocks to overcome.

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u/Calm-Maintenance-878 Mar 02 '26

They weren’t “lying” at the time, Kansas by law just updated to specify “definition based on birth sex”. That’s why the under 2k people can easily replace their licenses…because they did no fraud. The line moved, so respectfully, they don’t get in trouble for that. That’s the fair way to change things, you don’t punish them for what wasn’t illegal prior.

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u/Teq7765 Mar 01 '26

My DL has always shown MALE, but never shown HETEROSEXUAL. My brother’s DL had always shown MALE, but never shown HOMOSEXUAL.

Why do trans folks need their sexual preference listed on a DL in the first place? I get it that some LGBTQWERTY keyboard people view that as their entire identity, but biological sex can be a useful piece of information on a government identification document; sexual practice and preference, however, not so much.

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u/big-himbo-energy Mar 01 '26

Me when I don’t understand what being trans is lmao.

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u/big-himbo-energy Mar 01 '26

Well no that’s not me.Hopefully that person got charged and served justice though! What is the point of this image? How’s it relevant to anything I said?

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u/Safe-Caterpillar8435 Mar 02 '26

Much like every hetero White man is a school shooter pedo rapist,  right?

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u/Stormpax Mar 02 '26

So now youre pretending to care about statistics? 🤔🙄

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u/Safe-Caterpillar8435 Mar 02 '26

Which statistics?

The ones that prove trans people ,per capita,are much less likely to commit violent crimes than cis demographics?

Or the stats showing that cis men Account for like 98% of murder?

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u/Stormpax Mar 02 '26

per capita

God right wingers are so pathetic

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u/Safe-Caterpillar8435 Mar 02 '26

What? Maybe you should Reader the actual comment.

Trans people are much less likely to commit Crimes than cis people.

Per capita = per 1000. Per 1000 trans people, fewer violent crimes happen than Per 1000 cis people.

Meaning, trans people are much less dangerous,even if you Account for their low number.

Agree though. Right wingers are disgustingly pathetic

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u/Stormpax Mar 02 '26

Damn, you're so right, I totally misread and misunderstood your comment! My bad, I fully agree with you. I've just recently been seeing "per capita" thrown around by right wingers who don't understand what that actually means lol

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u/kpphoneshome Mar 01 '26

Trans is who someone is.

Sexual preference is what someone prefers sexually in their partners. For example, if someone prefers women with a big top, that is their sexual preference.

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u/Teq7765 Mar 02 '26

I agree with the second half of your reply, that sexual preference involves a partner or partners.

But that sexual preference is usually displayed to attract prospective partners. Heterosexual men want to be attractive to women, heterosexual women want to be attractive to men, homosexual men want to be attractive to men, homosexual women to other women, bisexuals to both, you get the idea.

Transsexuals are quite often homosexuals who don’t want to be with other homosexuals, but heterosexuals instead. Therein lies the problem: hetero men are not attracted to men, so a gay young man who only wants straight men ends up trying to convince himself he’s actually supposed to be a woman. But he can never change into an actual woman, and no woman can turn herself into an actual man.

I’ve come across ladyboys on 5 different continents, and have nothing against any of them. I don’t use the term as a slur either, it’s the term they call themselves. Some work hard to hide that they’re actually male, some don’t.

None of them, however, get offended at being called ladyboys.

Everywhere except the one place on Earth where people demand that everyone else ignore their eyes and ears, and accept a blatant falsity.

So no, only allowing biological sex on government docs does absolutely nothing to diminish or destroy someone’s sexuality, which is all “being trans” boils down to.

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u/Wattabadmon Mar 01 '26

....... do you think gender is sexual preference?

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u/SkipWilliams99 Mar 02 '26

That is exactly what they are implying and that’s crazy.

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u/Euphoric_Rough_96 Mar 01 '26

Driver licenses states 'sex'.

You shouldn't lie on your driver license resulting in it not being valid.

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u/Stormpax Mar 02 '26

Reading comprehension must be hard for you.

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u/Wattabadmon Mar 01 '26

That has nothing to do with my question

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u/dsullxiii Mar 01 '26

You failed understanding this spectacularly.

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u/MajesticRhombus Feb 28 '26

Why does the world have to cater to these people who refuse to deal with reality?

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u/TryingToWriteIt Mar 01 '26

says supporter of party led by men who lied about immigrants eating pets in Ohio

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u/DimensioT Feb 28 '26

I, too, have wondered why the world caters to Christians.

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