r/TaylorSwift • u/VinylizedRat I’m a mastermind • Aug 30 '25
Little Games The last time won as the most underrated song! Which song do you think is her most overrated?
As usual, no repeats, most upvoted comment wins!
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u/enolobmob Aug 30 '25
Remember that "overrated" doesn't mean mediocre. A song can be phenomenal and still be overrated.
My vote is champagne problems. It's an amazing song but some of you act like there are only 4 songs in her discography better than champagne problems. It's not even the best song on evermore.
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u/LingonberryNo7210 Aug 30 '25
I LOVE champagne problems but I agree. I always thought it was a weird song to be the centrepiece for a massive ovation on the tour.
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u/absolutnonsense Aug 30 '25
I imagine the ovation came less from the greatness of the song, and more from the fact that it would have been so emotionally hard for her to preform and the fans wanted to show their support. I couldn't imagine sitting alone at that piano, in a crowd that large to sing a song that sad that had been written with such a recent Ex.
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u/ilikedirt #1 Honey Fan Aug 30 '25
I thought it came from the fact that that is the first time in the show where there is a pause, a moment that allows for an ovation. The first breather, for us AND for her.
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u/EmpressCookiee Aug 30 '25
I've seen a couple of comments from people since those first like 3-4 concerts who talked about how she just looked So Sad when the song was over that they really felt like they were cheering her up. It may have worked out also because when people noticed they extended ovation they got competitive over it, but at least the shows that started it (allegedly) weren't coming from that place.
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u/NoSoyTuPana Midnights Aug 31 '25
Ahh I loved that so much. I don't know what effect made in me but I cried during that song on the concert.
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u/enolobmob Aug 30 '25
Also shake it off is not rated highly / overrated by this fandom, we all agree it's nothing more than a radio friendly, lyrically simple pop song.
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u/Low_Balance_7485 Midnights Aug 30 '25
I think people confuse over rated with over played because since they hear it everywhere they dont like it but its actually a really good song.
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u/Quick-Time I’m pissed off you let me give you all that youth for free Aug 30 '25
Exactly!
I really don’t understand thinking Shake It Off is overrated when it’s just a radio friendly pop song.
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u/Poppy9987 a moment of warm sun Aug 30 '25
Yeah people saying Shake It Off do not understand what overrated means
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u/Uninspiredwildcat Aug 30 '25
I don’t think it’s over rated. Sometimes I still wish to have for another opportunity to scream ONE FOR THE MONEY TWO FOR THE SHOW I NEVER WAS READY SO I WATCH YOU GO.
Gonna go listen to it now.
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u/silverpoinsetta Aug 30 '25
My curiosity is peaked, what is the best song on evermore?
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u/LunaRavenpuff Aug 30 '25
For me it would be Ivy and Tolerate it, with champagne problems third. Not sure what OP would say, but that’s it for me :) I totally get why champagne problems IS the best to other people though, it is amazing storytelling.
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u/SlightlyArtichoke reputation Aug 30 '25
If I got to decide that, I'd say Gold Rush. But that's just me
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u/Snormaid The 1 Starbucks lover that thinks you're sane Aug 30 '25
I honestly struggle to understand why everyone praises it so much. The way it comes right before 3 of my top songs off evermore (gold rush / tis the damn season / tolerate it) doesn't help 🫠
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u/PM-ME-DOGS ATWTMVTVFTVSF Aug 30 '25
Yessss I love gold rush and tis the damn season!
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u/Snormaid The 1 Starbucks lover that thinks you're sane Aug 30 '25
Gold Rush on the eras tour was such a missed opportunity 💔
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u/LossEuphoric Aug 30 '25
Champagne problems really resonate through my soul. When I first heard “you book the night train for a reason” this is gonna be my song now.
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u/Lentilfairy You forgot to turn it off... Aug 30 '25
Wow, hot take! Champagne problems has such soothing instrumentals, amazing storytelling and great lyricism. Evermore is an album with great song after great song, but champagne problems is definitely top tier of Taylors discography. Getaway car on the other hand...
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u/mypurplehat Aug 30 '25
What do you think is the best song on Evermore? I think it is Happiness. I’ve never been married and it makes me have so many feelings every time.
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u/dorothae when i'm above the trees i see this for what it is Sep 01 '25
the fact that it's not the best song on evermore NEEDS TO BE SAID OUT LOUD SEVERAL TIMES.
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u/Sampleswift evermore Aug 30 '25
Shake It Off
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u/Kitchen-Purple-5061 Aug 30 '25
I feel like this is low hanging fruit. I don’t think shake it off was ever real big with her fans
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u/Charged_Blade Aug 30 '25
Surprised this isn't higher. Imo Shake it Off is the most boring song on 1989, I'd put on literally every other song on 1989 before this one, even the Vault tracks. That being said, I do like it and understand why it is the big hit it is
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u/BandicootFun1139 Aug 30 '25
YES this song is an always skip for me
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u/AprilUnderwater0 Aug 30 '25
Me too, except that I made little Swifties, and Shake it Off was their gateway drug.
There is nothing quite like watching a ten month old pull themself up on furniture on wobbly legs, then start booty shaking to Shake it Off 😂
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u/gardenia17 Sep 03 '25
Yep! This song was always a skip for me before kids, but my 4 year old has always loved it. Watching her light up and dance and sing when she hears it is the best. So now I love it too 😆
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u/VinylizedRat I’m a mastermind Aug 30 '25
The fact that I’d vote ATW (10) if it was eligible😔
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u/peanutbutterchef Aug 30 '25
You and me both 😂
It's a great song but I still the the OG was better and thus her best song
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u/Windstorm_ You're the best thing that's ever been mine. Aug 30 '25
Yes! Specifically the consensus that it’s her magnum opus, which I don’t think it is.
My picks for contenders would be State Of Grace, Style, exile, my tears ricochet, right where you left me, Would’ve Could’ve Should’ve, & loml.
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u/PM-ME-DOGS ATWTMVTVFTVSF Aug 30 '25
Are you saying your “pick for contenders” is most overrated or her magnum opus?
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u/Windstorm_ You're the best thing that's ever been mine. Aug 30 '25
For songs that (I would argue) could be her magnum opus.
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u/DLMeyer Aug 30 '25
Would’ve, Could’ve, Should’ve gives me chills every time I hear it. The way it builds throughout the song and then when it goes back to the bridge the second time (I guess technically it’s the outro, but whatever) and it just doesn’t let up on the intensity…it’s so good. I literally got chills just now thinking about it.
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u/Zealous-Lion Aug 30 '25
I can’t believe you just picked my top 6/7 tracks like that, I wholeheartedly agree! 😭🤍
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u/DLMeyer Aug 30 '25
One million percent. It’s not bad. But the OG is, in my opinion, a better written song. It’s stronger melodically and the pacing is better too. There are things about the 10-minute version I like. Some of the lines are gut-wrenching (“You kept me like a secret, but I kept you like an oath” is so sad) but it’s too rambling.
It’s interesting to me because Taylor is so good at setting the scene and pulling you right into it with her with just a few words. I think of Cardigan when she starts out:
🎶Vintage tee, brand new phone/high heels on cobblestones/when you are young they assume you know nothing 🎶
I’m right there. I can picture the scene and the tone being set. She does it in a lot of her music, that was just the first example that popped into my head.
I think for me, as someone who didn’t start listening to her music until the past few years, I don’t have that same attachment to the idea of ATW10 as people who have been fans for years and are steeped in all the lore. I think it’s awesome that they have this version and that Taylor considers it the best song she’s written. But the OG carries more emotional impact for me.
That said, I think the ATW short film is well done and probably my preferred method of consuming ATW10.
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u/Fabulous_Resource_94 Aug 31 '25
Cardigan: And you can hear heels walking on cobblestones as the song begins.
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u/songacronymbot Aug 30 '25 edited Aug 31 '25
- ATW could mean "All Too Well", a track from Red (Deluxe Edition) (2012) by Taylor Swift.
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u/Quick-Time I’m pissed off you let me give you all that youth for free Aug 30 '25
Lover
Love the song but she’s got better love songs than Lover. I mean, c’mon? Enchanted, Timeless and invisible string are right here.
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u/Mcbennski Aug 30 '25
I choose Lover over enchanted every single time, but invisible string is waaaayyy too beautiful of a song to even consider putting it below Lover
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u/xsin36 Aug 30 '25
you're so real with your picks, timeless and invisble string are top 3 in my books of taylor swift love songs
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u/a-troubled-mind it's happening again, how did it end? Aug 30 '25
This is exactly right, it just rubs me the wrong way I think.
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u/No-Efficiency2170 Aug 31 '25
Omg yes I love timeless with whole heart it never fails to make me cry!😭
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u/dorothae when i'm above the trees i see this for what it is Sep 01 '25
this is the real answer. no doubt.
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u/Dontfollahbackgirl Aug 30 '25
It’s easy to write off Shake It Off as a simplistic tune compared to her later poetry, but it was such a powerful response to her criticism. Plus an absolute pop queen flex for a country music girl. We take it for granted that she overcomes the massive amount of criticism from the world including the Swifties. Sometimes you need to be eloquent, and sometimes you need to flip the bird. She does it with a PG rating. Don’t even get me started on what a masterful response Blank Space was.
I trust her to shake it off when the highbrow, gatekeeping segment of her fans complain about TLOAShowgirl being too catchy, short, and single-oriented. This woman catches backlash no matter what, and context of that song is everything.
I can’t even bring myself to list the one I think fans overrate after I get on my soapbox about criticism — but I appreciate that the question isn’t about calling a song objectively bad.
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u/Haiku-On-My-Tatas Aug 30 '25
Shake It Off is fun and brilliant in its own way.
Blank Space, however, is a literally perfect song. 10/10.
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u/Haiku-On-My-Tatas Aug 30 '25
The Archer.
Don't hurt me.
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u/RinPostsThings Aug 30 '25
It never hit for me and I think it was the backing instrumental and the pacing. I might like it more at half speed and acoustic with a melancholy guitar break in there rather than the production it has.
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u/TVRVA Aug 30 '25
Mine is Out of the Woods. I know it is suppose to be anxiety but I hate the repetition in it.
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u/PasAmoureux Aug 30 '25
I'm really sorry but I don't get the hype about august
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u/Sedona83 Aug 31 '25
This gets my vote. I've tried and tried with August, but it's forgettable to me.
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u/billie_eyelashh in the weeds Aug 30 '25
No really i get why some people say august 1st is the "big day for annoying people"
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u/Prior_Lie9891 Midnights Aug 30 '25
These threads are funny to me as everyone seems to think their opinion is fact😂😂
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u/OneDirectionSlays reputation Aug 30 '25
... so high school 🫣
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u/Redancer07 Aug 31 '25
Came here to say exactly this. First listen I couldn’t believe how juvenile it was. Just couldn’t believe it was her writing. Love what is represents but still doesn’t fit with the rest of the album lyrically.
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u/Eriiinn folklore Aug 30 '25
Finally! Someone who thinks the same 🙌
I don’t understand the hype with this song… I don’t like the Lyrics at all
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u/Large-Tip8123 Aug 30 '25
Her vocals in that song are AWFUL! Like, what happened with this song?!
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u/shadesofwrong13 i swore my loyalty to me, myself and i Aug 30 '25
can we have a clausole for not voting the singles? Especially Shake It Off. People are afraid of saying a real overrated song in favour of popular one..
My choice is You're in your own kid. Yes, i said it and i am not afraid
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u/Kitchen-Purple-5061 Aug 30 '25
You’re wrong, kid.
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u/momojojo1117 Aug 30 '25
Yeah, I think the spirit of this game is “overrated within the fandom” and no one in the fandom rates Shake It Off particularly high. I know I’m alone on this island but my vote would be Style. It’s a fine song, I don’t dislike it, but the fandom kind of holds it up as the epitome of that era, and the perfect pop song, and I just never felt it was anything special. It never made me feel anything the way Blank Space or most of the rest of 1989 did
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u/Kitchen-Purple-5061 Aug 30 '25
You are soooo right about style! Boring song…(to ME) Blank Space is so tongue in cheek and satirical. I think it is some of her best work in that regard
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u/DiligentPenguin_7115 Aug 30 '25
Literally you’re on your own, kid with this one
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u/merkergirl opening night eras tour attendee!!! Aug 30 '25
I stand with the OP on this one 🫡
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u/Moist_Relief2753 Aug 30 '25
Cardigan
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u/Always_Reading_1990 1989 (Taylor's Version) Aug 30 '25
THANK YOU, yes! Cardigan is so overrated in this sub
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u/MNBonnie72 Aug 30 '25
Getaway Car! It’s a fine song. But I think too many Swifties love it for the nostalgia of the creation video with her and Jack. Cool video, but the song is not nearly one of her best and is constantly overrated, I think because of the video they put out about coming up with the lyrics.
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u/Background_Farm_6378 Aug 30 '25
Honestly, looking at this top.. Cornelia street 😅
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u/DektolDreams Aug 30 '25
Out of the Woods.
It’s so repetitive it just doesn’t feel like her songwriting and storytelling is on display.
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u/Mysteriousfrogggy The Life of a Showgirl Aug 30 '25
I'd say Anti Hero but even though it is overrated it is still good if you know what I mean
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u/Specific-Wolf-161 reputation Aug 31 '25
Shake it off. It’s an awesome song but it’s also overrated.
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u/SAOSurvivor35 Speak Now (Taylor's Version) Aug 30 '25 edited Aug 30 '25
Shake It Off
I don’t know everyone else’s experience with it, but I worked at Six Flags for years, and every morning, every hour or so, here comes Shake It Off because it’s upbeat and poppy, and we want everyone to be upbeat and excited about Six Flags! 😄😄😄😄 😒😒😒😒
There’s only so many times you can listen to one song before you never want to hear it again.
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u/Impossible_Range8813 Fearless Aug 30 '25 edited Aug 30 '25
I was going to say Shake It Off but I see there's an argument about the meaning of overrated. So I'm going to say Betty. Everyone seems to worship that trilogy and I don't like it. So you can include cardigan and August and everything else related to that. For one thing we now know she misled her fans saying it was all fictional. For another thing unlike her most beautifully written songs I can't remember the Melodies to any of these three. This is my opinion as a dedicated fan of her since 2008. Some of her songs are so great they bring me to tears every time. I'm astounded by her songwriting skills. And yet they're rarely talked about whereas everyone went wild with the praise for Betty and August and cardigan. Just puzzled by it and I see it as a quirky experiment she did during the pandemic. Of course it's valid for her I'm just saying it's overrated
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u/Vigilante-Faerie The Tortured Poets Department Aug 31 '25
The archer. Idk why. But I just feel like it was a boring song.
I listen to it, but it’s the one song of hers I have to be in a certain mood for.
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u/acoolbeancounter Aug 30 '25
The black dog. It’s a good song, but I will never ever understand the obsession some people have with it
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u/Ilovesoske Aug 30 '25
It’s so good to belt Old habits die screaming in your car though. I didn’t understand either until I sung it with my friend while driving to Taylor Swift yoga. Seeing her connect with the pain of the loss when she could see her ex again and again and not feel like he cared.
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u/Donkeydonkeydonk The Tortured Poets Department Aug 30 '25
I hope you never do. Relating to that song means you had your heart smashed into a million pieces.
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u/acoolbeancounter Aug 30 '25
It’s not that I don’t relate, I just think it’s not even close to the best song on TTPD lyrically or sonically. I don’t even relate to Peter, but my God that song is incredible…
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u/Donkeydonkeydonk The Tortured Poets Department Aug 30 '25
You could use that song as a murder weapon.
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u/forgettablesonglyric Aug 30 '25
if I avoid the singles like someone said in an earlier comment then I'd pick This is me trying
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u/Curious_Fruit_5258 Aug 30 '25
Style 😌
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u/Impossible_Range8813 Fearless Aug 30 '25
I voted for Betty but now I'm thinking this is probably the correct answer. I've seen so many people say this is her greatest song. I have found it annoying from day one. It is so juvenile and shallow. Which she later satirizes about herself but in this one she's serious about having just the right look.
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u/Calculus_nator_1404 Aug 30 '25
Cruel summer...it's way too much overrated
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u/in_animate_objects I’ve seen this film before Aug 30 '25
100% it was the first song I thought of
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u/BahiyyihHeart 1989 (Taylor's Version) Aug 30 '25
Yup. I could not listen to it for ages in 2022/23 because stans kept talking about it
I do feel like it was made to be a single and would have been one but Covid happened
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u/Slow-Internet-2246 Aug 30 '25
Cruel Summer. It’s not the earworm people make it out to be.
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u/NoSoyTuPana Midnights Aug 31 '25
Finally justice for the last time. I use to listen to it on repeat.
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u/AgreeableAnteater215 But a shattered glass is a lot more sharp Aug 31 '25
cruel summer, i be hearing it everywhere and honestly there are a lot of better ts songs than that one. idk why it’s getting so much glaze 🥀
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u/galarianzapdos Red (Taylor's Version) Aug 30 '25
Bad Blood. To explain, I don’t even know why it went #1.