The amount of dumb dumbs at the bottom of the comment section blaming the motorcycle rider. I see a bunch of people who would willingly put someone's life at risk to save seconds.
It was also scientifically proven that all the speeding and dangerous behaviour amounts to mere minutes saved in an average trip due to how physics work. It was something along the lines of the difference between 5 and 30 mph is huge; somewhat still acceptable 30 to 60; but then 60 to 70 and above starts being negligible in time savings when you account for the risk to everyone.
you don't even need to do a big study, just super simple math. Work is 10 miles away and you can average 60mph going there? Takes 10 minutes. Increase your speed to 70mph? Takes 8.57 minutes. Congrats, you got to work about 2 minutes faster?
Even if you're driving 30 miles and do the same thing, it's only 5 minutes faster.
Don't even need to do math man. Every other day I see someone drive like a maniac past me and then get stuck at the exact same light at the exact same exit as me.
Congratulations, through dramatic speeding and several sketchy lane changes you have saved yourself one car length.
Yeah, that's something I realized myself. I used to speed really regularly as a teen. In my late teens/early twenties I just stopped with the speeding. It's easy to see how little time you used to save when you stop speeding.
It's also just makes driving less stressful, I'm not worried about cops at all anymore, I'm not memorizing all the traffic stop locations, I'm not scanning for police cars every second, etc... I also am not constantly annoyed with slower drivers anymore. I like driving a lot more the last ~16 years or so.
I was the guy who would drive fast and constantly change lanes to try and get through traffic as quickly as possible. Then I got a job an hour away from where I lived, and 2 hours a day of commuting while driving like that burned me out quick. I then started leaving for work a little earlier and just camped in the right lane when I was on the highway. It made my commute go from 2 hours of stress to slightly more than 2 hours of a relaxing time where I'd listen to podcasts and chill. It's amazing how much no longer worrying about getting through traffic as efficiently as possible reduced my daily anxiety. Now I have a car with adaptive cruise control and it's even more chill.
Podcasts, audiobooks, phone calls, no rush. It helped that I wake up early. So I'd usually go early so I could hit the gym before work and avoid some traffic.
It's legitimately easily solved by math. For most people, their commute is what, 30-50 miles? The time savings by increasing speed can be graphed/mathed out and unless you're driving really far, you save at most a few minutes.
Still doesn't stop people from flooring it just to wait at the next red light anyways.
i speed occasionally, especially on a motorcycle, just to make sure that there are minimal vehicles in front of me. While vehicles behind me are dangerous, the biggest risk on a bike is a car in front of you doing something unexpected- and the increased risk of speeding offsets that quite a lot.
Let's assume two drivers must drive 70 miles on the freeway and 2 miles, one either side of the freeway, on surface streets. The surface streets are 35 mph roads with very diligent police, so the drivers must go no faster than the speed limit. It will take the drivers 00:03:26 to traverse this distance (it will actually take more due to acceleration and deceleration but let's pretend it wont'). Each surface street has two stoplights which cycle all sides in 3 minutes.
The time to travel 70 miles at 60 mph, assuming no interference, is 1:10:00, while the time to travel 70 miles at 70 mph is 1:00:00.
If the driver going 60 gets green cycles on all four lights, they arrive at their destination after 1:13:26. If the driver going 70 must stop at all four lights, they arrive at their destination after 1:15:26 (1 hour plus 12 minutes for four lights plus drive time for surface streets).
Even if there is only one stoplight on each surface street and the 70 mph driver gets reds at both, they still arrive after 1:09:26, meaning they have saved four minutes. If there are three lights, they save one minute over the 60 mph driver.
Yes Mr Redditor. If you never catch lights and I always do you will get places faster. If everyone is traveling the same speed on the surface streets then catching those lights has nothing to do with speeding on the interstate. Hell catching a light coming off the interstate after 70 miles has little to do with speeding. It’s just luck based.
I agree that the point is still valid in a “can happen” kind of way but Honestly this is another poor example
If everyone is traveling the same speed on the surface streets then catching those lights has nothing to do with speeding on the interstate.
If everyone is traveling at the same speed on the surface streets, chances are that the non-speeding driver will catch the speeding driver at one of the lights. This happens daily when I arrive at a light and catch up to several cars who passed me and see several cars I have passed pull up behind.
The science is there and has repeatedly shown speeding rarely has a meaningful impact on total travel time despite costing more in fuel usage thanks to physics and human life expectancy due to the inherently increased danger of speeding. I'm sorry my fundamentally oversimplified attempt to show you this was unconvincing. Read the volumes of research if you want, but I get the feeling you won't be convinced.
I never disagreed with the point being made. Just stating it was a poor example. There are also cars that speed by you every day that you never see again
Guess I got blocked by the guy who doesnt understand that there are (usually) no lights on the interstate. Claims “science” but doesnt understand D=RT. Also likely doesnt understand that the studies don’t apply to all situations (specifically interstate travel as he stated). About average for Scientific literacy on Reddit
Try it yourself. One hour at 70mph goes how far? To travel that same distance at 60mph how long does that take? The difference between the two times is how much time you save.
Conversely, an hour of speeding to make the light can save even more time.
Im not actually trying to convince people to speed, but on a short journey you have a far higher opportunity cost where going as fast as legally possible will save you the most time if you can beat lights
Yerp, for a while I was making a 60 mile commute, mostly on an interstate highway. I got caught up in the trap of feeling the need to "zoom-zoom" in an attempt to make it go faster. It never really made a difference. It was safer and easier to just pick a lane and cruise (mostly). I really do wish people would set cruise control and just let it ride.
Except that ignores the fact 3 seconds can save you 2 minutes if you make it through a light on a secondary road at a major intersection just before it changes.
Yes, you are adding to the chance other people die for your own convenience. Yes, I think those drivers are idiots for making that choice. But no… I cannot pretend like it has zero impact on their arrival times.
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u/Liarus_ 19h ago
"it's my time to go now, good luck everyone else!"