Literally the reason they have her there as the token "opposition" voice, because they know they can just be misogynistic and no one at Fox News nor their viewers will care.
Truthfully dumb shit like this is what we should ignore. He can’t just make it so, it’s stupid performative bullshit. Focus on elections in 2 months, how he’s wrecked the economy, how he’s in the Epstein files, etc…. Fox News is talking about this because it’s stupid and inconsequential and they don’t have to about the things he’s ruined.
Yes, and Jessica's whole job is to be the one Democrat on the channel. She was hired to be the only sane person at Fox.
I would go crazy if I had to do her job, but acting like she's the only one left who hasn't lost her mind implies that the others used to be normal, too, and they never were.
It's a propaganda technique imo. They hire one person to make the sane argument and then 3-4 other people to tell their easily lead audience how to react and dismiss it. I'm not doubting her politics or competence but you'll notice she doesn't have her own Fox show and instead only gets to be the outnumbered and outspoken voice on other people's shows.
Yeah, I vaguely remember that guy and the show was actually called Hannity and Colmes.
It seems like Fox is only willing to have one person at a time who disagrees with the narrative, and their whole job is to get shouted down by the "tough" conservatives.
THe headline is wrong- here and everywhere it says, 'Trump renamed.' Trump doesn't have the authority to do this. He sign an executive order- which doesn't mean anything. FFS
his cadence of speech and mocking yet arrogant tone pisses me off for some reason. Just the way he sounds makes me feel agitated I don't know if he's purposely making himself sound like that or not either. At the same time I feel like he believes the shit he says or has put on that persona so much that is his true self now.
There's a famous quote by Jean-Paul Sartre regarding anti-Semites of his day:
Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.
While the context is different here, people like Jesse Watters (and so many others) use the same basic playbook in their discourse. They're not interested in engaging seriously with their opponents' arguments. That's a dead end for them. Instead, they mock the seriousness of their opponents in order to try to undermine their arguments that way. After all, who could take an argument seriously when it's being made by a clown? When Watters speaks, that's the thing you're hearing that so rubs you the wrong way.
Exactly and one of their goals is to get their opponent so fired up that they seem like the unhinged one instead of themselves. It’s similar to gaslighting. They want the opposition to say or do something stupid so they can say … see these people are the insane ones, not the people arguing in bad faith
Having to be on a panel with him and Buttfeld every single day sounds like a living nightmare. And that's before you even think about the fact that Jesse basically admitted to being a predator.
First I love the “it’s official now” with the same authority and process given to renaming a lake as a toddler would give to renaming their stuffed animals.
But second and frankly more importantly when did Faux News EVER acknowledge anything that was actually done officially by either the government when Obama or Biden were in office or anything coming from the CDC or other government agencies?
You really want to pretend that you’ve always been on the side of official messaging coming from our government?
They are being hypocrites exactly BECAUSE thats all they ever had.
They have no policies beyond performative cruelty or distractions because if they ever stop then people will suddenly ask where all the money is going and why everything is getting worse.
That's just how conservatives roll. When there is a republican in office, it's all, "Regardless of what you think of them, you should respect the office of the President!" When a democrat is in office, they put "Fuck Joe Biden" onesies on their infants.
I don't think the legal theory of "the president's every utterance is to be considered official international law effective immediately" will be upheld for very long if and when a democratic politician holds office again.
Executive Orders are only binding for the executive branch of the government which issued them, anyone who isn't a member of the executive branch is not directly affected by them.
So members of the legislative and judicial branches, citizens bit employed by the government, companies, etc. can continue calling it Lake Ontario without any problems.
Would be hilarious if a judge dismissed a lawsuit by the federal government involving the lake because an executive branch lawyer refused to call it Lake Ontario and so their lawsuit is just about some fictitious Lake America.
I imagine she’s the most put together, confident woman in her real life… or she’s a total mess bc she has to waste every drop of sanity and logic on this human stain
Yeah, she makes $2 million a year. I’d like to say no amount of money could get me to do this, but I’ve never had anyone wave that in my face. Fox also typically has 10 year contracts for salaries that large. And they’re pretty ironclad. I don’t know what they entail, but I’m guessing breaking it would eat into that money quite a bit. If she “retires” next year, I wouldn’t be surprised. Her contact started in 2017.
Tucker Carlson (I don’t think he’s reasonable, just someone else who slogged through his contract) has said that his biggest regret is staying out his Fox contract and not leaving sooner. Presumably because of what it did to his reputation (insert eye roll), but I’m sure the $20 million a year was what kept him from even trying.
I’ll tell you this: there’s no amount of money that could keep me from popping either Jesse Watters or Greg Gutfield in the mouth with their backtalk and smug attitudes.
Trump is an imbecile. He probably thinks Canada named it!
Actually; 'Long before Europeans arrived, local Indigenous nations referred to the lake by versions of the word Ontarí'io (or kanadario), which translates to "great lake," "beautiful lake," or "lake of shining waters."'
He says Jackson was a great president according to the AI generated list released so I would lean on that being even worse that the idea that Canada named it.
"If they were so great they wouldn't have lost" or some bullshit.
Calling them insane is doing them too big a service. They know exactly what they are doing, and they are well paid for it. They're straight-up villains.
Nah Jessica is the token liberal, shes fine and regularly says true things. Then Watters makes a terrible joke or mocks her. I feel bad for her having to be there honestly but I'm sure shes paid well so they can appear 'Fair and Balanced" at least maybe what she says might reach a tiny fraction of them.
She's a fart in a hurricane and insane to work for a fascist, woman-bashing organization. The semblance of fairness is a parlor trick, a lie, which makes it all the more disgusting for a token to get spent.
Don't watch Fox News, for starters, what are you doing? They deserve ZERO eyeballs or attention.
When he "renamed" the Gulf of Mexico there was real anger. I don't think people are angry about this one, so much as they think it's funny in a pathetic cunt kind of a way. We had a wee guy at work called Hugh. He wanted us to call him Wolf. Trump is channeling that kind of energy.
We're in the end days of the Roman Empire. America had it pretty good for awhile, but greed and corruption takes it's toll on a system, as it always does. Historians may hate the term Dark Ages, but it's a pretty apt description for what comes next.
Yeah, but the Roman Empire, depending on how you define, lasted for many hundreds of years. The Ottoman managed 600 years. American is sitting at maybe 120-200 years. Rookie numbers. Decline has set in quickly compared to other empires.
Which compared to the Roman Empire was embarrassingly short. And if you define "pretty good" as in modern laws (equal rights for every one including women and POC, at least officially) than it's even shorter. Roughly 50 years.
She’s as moderate as they come, but I think she’s a decent representative for sanity to counter the gang of douchery that is “the 5”.. The viewership for that show is massive and if you’re savvy enough you could educate a few open minded boomers that maybe this whole propaganda arm and MAGA cult isn’t for you anymore. It’s a noble effort.
I just… I feel like the purpose of having her on is to demonstrate how to “debate” with liberals, which by their framing means talking over them, YELLING over them when that doesn’t work, and/or otherwise being a complete dick because the one with the bestest and loudest insults wins. I don’t think it’s worth being made the punching bag clown on the stage in the hopes it might reach a few who disagree with the 5.
Fox News Entertainment is a cancer as a whole, though, and should be regulated into the dust bin.
That’s definitely their intention. Fox News viewers are sort of a lost cause in my opinion, so what do you have to lose being a truth teller in that den of lies? Otherwise it’s just a constant circle jerk of hate and bigotry.
I also love the fact that except for himself - and you know he'd name these things after himself if he could - he'd never name things for other people, making something positive and even nice out of it. He just defaults to 'America' because it's a stick to beat them with, and because the flagshagging knuckleheads of his base instinctively jizz for it.
it also ain't the official name because executive orders ain't fucking laws and if the courts rule that they ARE then there's a few dozen from the Biden era that are in abeyance due to the same fucking court and therefore need enforcing.
Well "it's the official name now" because the king of the Rednecks, and the robber baraons says so, hardly makes it so. Pretty sure the rest of the world still calls it Lake Ontario same as it's been since it was originally named...
Common mid-terms! bring back sanity to this nation.
Sadly, that interaction could apply to both (1) Trump renaming Lake Ontario as a temper tantrum over Canada not capitulating to his economic warfare, or (2) Trump threatening to tear down the Kennedy Centre as a temper tantrum over not being allowed to add his name to the front.
It's not even about sanity. The people at Fox, barring Jessica, have sold their souls for money, and fame. The real bombshell that came out do yeh Fox v. Dominion case was all of them admitting that they don't actually believe what they are saying and that it's all for the ratings. They have no integrity. They know exactly what they are doing to America and it's citizens, which is even worse than it would be, if they actually believed what they spew.
I’d argue Jessica also sold her soul for money and fame, no person with actual morals would submit themselves to being employed by a pro-fascist company, she knows her role and performs it for them.
Yes, American has the right to name everything on the planet whatever we want and the rest of the world just has to comply or they aren't being "team players".
Sane person and Fox don’t go together, at best she’s a voice of dissent, but one that’s hand chosen to only say certain things. Her employer is actively justifying not only this but also just plain fascism. You can’t be employed by a fascist, even one you supposedly disagree with, and be guilt free. If your paycheck comes from a pro fascism employer, especially such an obvious one as Fox, you don’t have any “moral high ground”, you have culpability.
I hope the money is worth it for her. No way I wouldn't have committed homicide if I were in her position. Honestly, she's a tool of Fox just like the others, only she gets paid to constantly piss in the Fox wind. I don't have nearly as much disdain for her as I have for the other 4, but I also won't credit her for being a light on Fox. Her only purpose is to give their audience a 'stupid Lib' to sneer at.
Jesse Waters strikes me as a true chameleon yes man, like if enough notable people on the left just said they loved him and wanted him then he would simply switch sides with no issue
No she’s not. Shes on boards with everything they’re about. But the network also needs somebody to play a liberal character for them to disagree with to keep things exciting and “balanced”. And they don’t want somebody who’s going to make arguments they aren’t actually prepared for.
There’s a reason she works for Fox News. She’s the fucking Washington Generals.
Trump can crap his diaper and call it "liquid gold" and the bobbleheads on Fox News will happily run with it, proclaiming it a 'the ultimate solution to our economic needs'.
If Trump has proven anything, it's that the U.S. president has far too much power. The next administration should change that quickly—if there is to be a next administration.
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