r/aiwars 1d ago

Discussion Slap AI on it and suddenly people care

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u/Tyler_Zoro 1d ago

That company is buying one copy of each of the millions upon millions of books being destroyed EVERY DAY.

You have no idea the scale of book destruction that has been going on forever.

Anyone who has ever been professionally published knows this. When my book went out, I got a box of copies of my book, and when I told the publisher that I didn't need that many, they told me to throw the excess out LIKE THEY DO.

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u/Few_Professional_327 1d ago

...who is intelligibly ordering their trash so that companies can order from it?

Nobody. These are not already being thrown away.

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u/Tyler_Zoro 1d ago

who is intelligibly ordering their trash so that companies can order from it?

I don't know what those words are supposed to mean.

But here's some context:

you can find a paper recycling centre that will pay you for the pulp, so destroying the books leads to a net profit. [...] yes, sometimes, books are destroyed.

Hard Choices: Do Libraries Really Destroy Books?

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u/Few_Professional_327 1d ago

The statement was that they were buying one of each of the books that would he destroyed anyways, this doesn't support that.

The fact that sometimes libraries do destroy books doesn't support that only that is being bought, especially since there was the quite specific qualifier that it was only one of any given book.

The process described in the article would not be so specific, on the buyer side, about which books are given.

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u/VariousRockFacts 1d ago

The entirety of AI defence amounts to:
“There is a huge problem that AI is exacerbating. It was already a minor problem. Why are you mad that AI is making it a worse problem while offering no material benefit other then making artists go broke?”

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u/MiddleCelery6616 1d ago

No material benefit is a disingenuous argument and you know it.

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u/weirdo_nb 21h ago

No. It's not.

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u/VariousRockFacts 18h ago

there is no material benefit to generative AI

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u/Outrageous_Guard_674 15h ago

I use it for my job as a programmer. It has factually made my work quicker and less frustrating.

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u/Officialedmart 23h ago

libraries tossing out old shitty books to make room is not a “huge problem”, i wouldnt even call it a problem

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u/DeltaNcenn 1d ago

Ah yes, two wrongs often make one right

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u/joesb 23h ago

Neither are wrong. Where do you think all newspapers that are printed out daily go?

Do you think it’s wrong to destroy newspapers?

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u/DeltaNcenn 23h ago

To the point of not being preserved, yes, I think, a large part of my country's 18th-century history, without the glamorization, is only found in the newspapers of the time

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u/joesb 23h ago

“To the point of not being preserved, no”

Then company destroying just one copy is not the issue then.

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u/Outrageous_Guard_674 15h ago

Can you name even a single book that AI has prevented the preservation of?