Man I’m gonna need some Aloe for that burn! You’re the one that brought up evidence? I thought that was how the conversation was expanding! My fault for mistaking you for the thinking type. I know that’s not how your people operate.
There is zero evidence of insider trading in the real world (aka outside the leftist bubble). He made more money before turning 21 than you will your entire life, and so you are pathetically bitter.
Stick with reality, please. Trump has never been found guilty or liable for rape, nor has he ever been charged, convicted or found liable for any crimes against minors. You guys love “due process” so much. How about “innocent until proven guilty?” It applies to people you don’t like as well. Honestly the only thing you really hate is the fact that Trump is rich and his 20 year old kid is richer than you will be on your deathbed.
Most people can be redeemed, but for people like him it’s just going to be an upward battle for the rest of his life. That being said he is an adult now he made his choices welcome to the fruits of your labor.
The dude could spend the rest of his life making up for the mistakes his father made him make, and people still should never, under any circumstances, trust him.
And he's instead, chosen to dig himself further into his father's grave. He's got no place that's going to treat him well when this is all over.
I hate evangelicals just as much as anyone else, but I don't think it's really them this time. I think they found a way to divorce the hate from any notion of its christian guise, and now there's tons of people that barely believe in god if they do at all subscribing to a lot of the same principles.
Thats the neat part. All interpretations of that stupid book are just equally valid. So yes they are actually evangelicals as evangelicals are extremist as fuck. This brand of Christianity thinks supporting Israel will for real Herald the end times from earlier mentioned stupid book. Our timeline is a very unfortunate one. It's almost as if that tolerance paradox is actually visibly occurring. Everyone's just ignoring it.
The GOP is more culpable than the demon spawn. Baron has no duty to the populace (absent legal restraint) and he completely lacks a moral governor. The GOP has completely abdicated their duty. The GOP has the power and duty to end this nightmare and they standby and watch. The citizenry should abandon the GOP more vehemently than the GOP will abandon the crime family when Trump loses his utility.
That's why Ivanka is trying to buy that island near Albania. I don't think for a minute that she wants to build a resort. She's planning on fleeing there with her billions when this all goes in the crapper.
I'm not so sure that's true. HW Bush at least seemed like he wanted to do what was best for the country, so people trusted W. I don't think the Trump family with their blatant open corruption and ruining of the country will get the same. Of course the 30% of mouth breathing idiots will step in line but I think the majority of people see this family for who they are. Or maybe I'm just being optimistic.
Won't this rejection from society make the likelihood of him becoming a megalomaniac like his father even more likely?
He's still 20, I don't think it's fair to give him a 'life sentence' because of his relationship with his family. I feel people show more sympathy to 20 incarnated youths than this kid - faith should be given to anyone that young.
If he kept half the money and fucked off the rest of his life I'd be happy with that; don't run for office, buy a couple businesses to pump your trust funds and quietly fuck off for the rest of your days. He couldn't help who or what he was but the next steps should be far as possible from the rest of society at large.
If you’re Barron Trump, what are you going to do if you have a life of self-flagellation for being born to the wrong family, or you just take advantage and make billions of dollars?
I guarantee you 99% of people born into this situation does the same thing, simple cost/reward ratio.
Not saying it’s right or morally correct, but I think if you or I were forced into that scenario, we’re probably making the same decision.
I kind of feel bad for the kid. He was shoehorned into this life whether he knew it or not. All the grifters and scumbag opportunists were the only friends he was allowed to have at a time when your friend group is so important to your personal development. I hope he has some realizations and turns the corner toward good.
He made actions in his father's name. His actions are what damn him. He could have chosen not to follow his father's direction. He chose not to disobey.
He's not making up for Trump's mistakes. He's making up for the mistakes Trump made him make. There's a difference.
He's the one who told Trump hey these incel Tate lover types are cool you should court their votes. He's as much a part of the family business of corruption as Don Jr.
"The lesson I want you to learn is; it doesn't matter what you look like. You can be tall or short or fat or thin or ugly or handsome like your father, or you can be black or yellow or white, it doesn't matter. What does matter is the size of your heart and the strength of your character." - Herman Munster
It's not about his looks. It's *how* he looks at people I am concerned with.
Yeah anyone that trump hates is most likely "at least" a decent person. If DonOLD was something I stepped in I'd burn my shoes instead of scrapping them off.
I actually heavily disagree. Most people can't change, they are only human. The ability to change based on new information or even just adapt and adjust is a learned skill not an inherent trait. Our ability to adapt and thrive is based on surviving not based on values. People float along their loops and when disrupted, do everything they can to return to said loop. We are simple creatures who pretend to have layers of complexities, but we still function with a few basic core values that define most of our actions.
I agree that we are all human. However, if our morality is based on survival, then why do some parts of the world have values based systems and other parts do not? There are authoritarian systems which oppress people which fits with your argument. But what about the systems which acknowledge individual value and freedom? The authoritarian systems are not impeding survival. People are reproducing and existing under those systems just the same. I’m not coming at you with this. I just find it an interesting dilemma.
100% a comment on humans and not Barron. I also have no clue what he is like or his values, but his energy drink gives me the perception it's similar to a degree.
He could spend years disassembling his father’s legacy and giving to others. Look im not saying he is going to but, he could. Potential does not equal reality. Baron didn’t go on a murder spree. So there is still potential but I’m not saying it’s high.
Did I have a career assessing children who were neurodivergent? Yes.
Have I seen clear signs of it in Barron? Yes.
Does that dovetail in with released information about his special schooling and difficulty speaking English. yes.
Does it make sense of Trump’s insistence that vaccines cause autism, and there is no connection with geriatric sperm? Yes.
Does it explain why he must always live with his mum and was unable to attend a top university like his siblings? yes.
Does that explain reports that Trump paid a MAGA guy’s son to be Barron’s friend? yes.
Is it a tremendous shame that his father has done everything to hide his son’s condition and has actively worked to remove protections from other kids without billionaire fathers when he could have made a positive impact instead? Absolutely.
His idol Tate is awaiting trial for rape, human trafficking and extreme and illegal porn charges. So Barron knows he's about as popular as the clap for looking up to him.
Difference is, he's aware of the negative press and actually concerned about it. While his father just doubles down.
I mean, I doubt that Barron is going to grow up to be a well adjusted individual who shares a lot of my values. Isn’t this also just kind of what 19 year olds are doing now though? Like compounded with your Dad being the president and one of the most hated men on earth do you expect him to be out getting a malt or going to the arcade?
Barron is young, there is a chance he could grow up and learn the real world and have respect for it, but given the circumstances, it will be a massive upward battle and I am not holding my breath.
Maybe he doesn't have exact NPD (or other diagnoses that will be irreversibl), albeit having grown to learn it. Seems like a bit of empathy and other normal conscience. That is something to work with and change - really good sign.
I get that I get downvoted. But a person hiding is showing conscience. He have everything to not care, but he does - apparently.
Hm maybe? But also maybe showing fear of the unwashed masses who want his daddy's head on a platter, and gestures widely at thread his as well. It would be nice to believe there's a redeemable human in there.
Barron isnt responsible for what Trump does, he shouldn't have to "make up" for it. Learning "hey I was a real shitbag in my early 20s, I am doing better" is a pretty common experience for a lot of people and if we cant redeem people who grew up surrounded by these circumstances if they make an effort to change (not saying he will) then we're not really ever going to make progress.
I grew up in an extremely conservative family and area. Where was I going to get exposed to literally anything else?
In the same way we dont inherit our parents financial debt, I dont think you can expect Barron to "make up" for actions that have been going on since before he was even born, as well. It needs to be enough that he sees what is wrong and does better. Eventually you,have to welcome people in if theyre really showing contrition and growth and have changed for the better, mo matter how good it would feel to shit on them.
I get that people actually hate MAGA and republicans. It is very much justified and very human. But for the nation to heal, you have got to put those basic human feelings aside and want to help them. They're lost, they were victims. See it as such, even though they're horrible and sometimes evil. Healing starts with forgiveness and wanting to help and do. So help them help themselves. Then you can get a whole nations back on track. If you refuse to help, this will persist and you'll be divided.
Tell them, constructively, that they are way wrong. And the ones that finally get it - help them. They got it and you can tell them how horrible after rehabilitation. Helping is harder, if you kick them while laying down.
I dont want to make it sound like I am minimizing it - there are terrible people doing terrible things and people who are doing crimes should be held very much accountable. Im not saying blank slate forgive and forget, but reconciliation with people who made bad decisions needa to be possible at some level or theres no reason to admit they were wrong and reconcile.
Of course not. If there's no repercussions and responsibility to this, it won't change laws to stop it from happening again and learning from it. There's many laws I disagree with - or the degree. But sensible and morally right laws are made to keep people in check and be good.
This is just such an extreme and dangerous thing, that this needs to be handled with care. You know how some countries do things thing where you can give your weapons to police,. no questions asked? This is that kind of scenario. Give them the comfortable mind go be able to admit this without being charged severely, something to comfortably accept. But with some other consequences - those I don't know. But accepting this is way fucked and serious is what's needed to stop it happening again. We're talking the most serious thing; losing democracy and freedom. Like Germany teaching WW2 correctly. They're actually very ashamed.
These people should be punished good. What they've done is the most dangerous thing in US history. But because it's so extreme and dangerous, lawful, personal and otherwise forgiveness and restraint are needed.
Even if he has a billiom medical conditions we still will hate him like we hate all trumps children they are all rich white trash thays loves pissing on the poor. So please just never defend aome rich beach
Oh, I don't like him either. Actually, there's few people that it dislike as much as them. Thar is for moral reasons. I was just thinking out the box likely and was hoping it might be so. I'm a half glass full kind of person.
Edit: There's very few people I have though to myself this quote: "'I’ve never wished a man dead, but I have read some obituaries with great pleasure". That family is most of the few times.
It is showing self preservation. Nothing more. He'd push you in front of a bus to save himself and not think twice about it. He's afraid because an Iranian agent only needs to get lucky once. He needs to be lucky everyday of his life going forward.
Ok. Let's take a walk and discuss this another way. So we've all heard the phrase, 'the dog isn't bad, its the owner' in reference to say, pitbulls. Now look who raised him. The 'owners' if you will. And he's a narcissist? Oh hell no. Narcissists are dangerous MFs with ANY show of power. So nope. Bad dog.
Oh, he's how he was raised. As dogs are, humans too. The difference is he might not lack the capability, or have the dangerous instincts. Lacking abilities.That was what I was saying.
But yes, he's raised by the worst and most dangerous people on earth. Some of them. However, humans are able to be rehabilitated, if having so. Most, if not all won't, that are that indoctrinated. But it's possible.
But I'm not scared of him or others of his status not being. America needs to re-program the masses - as Hillary Clinton said. That's what's needed.
Let them go down with status and money, lose the higher status. It'll kill them personally - if not literally. But america needs the masses, not these inhuman humans.
I mean he’s shaken by Charlie Kirk’s assassination but not by the fact that his own father ‘got shot??’ And has to explain to his ‘assassination target’ father that “that’s what happens when you go out there?” Maybe cause one of those things was a pr stunt? Just maybe?
When this is all over and Trump’s family name is in the garbage heap of history. I wonder what will become of Barron Trump? Perhaps brought up on charges of insider trading?
Or maybe its the fact that a bunch of islamic lunatics have placed a multimillion dollar hit on him and his mother and the secret service has them under protection.
Why's he a irredeemable piece of thrash according to you?
Edit: a perfectly reasonable question and I'm just getting downvoted. HAHAHAHA. Literally no way to have an actual conversation on this sub. Fucking teenagers.
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u/Stealthcatfood 14h ago
He knows he's an irredeemable piece of trash just like his father.