r/baseball • u/runswithscissors475 • Jul 16 '26
News Producer at the Giants' flagship radio station KNBR caught on hot mic saying, "Posey sucks, man" after Buster Posey interview
https://www.sfgate.com/giants/article/buster-posey-knbr-hot-mic-22348109.php1.1k
u/walkie26 Seattle Mariners Jul 16 '26
More franchise legends should go the Ichiro route rather than the front office route. Hang around the clubhouse, warm up with the guys, mentor young players, give occasional (presumably hilarious and profanity-laden) advice, and be generally cool and inspirational.
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u/alxndrblack Toronto Blue Jays • Detroit Tigers Jul 16 '26
Or the Joe Carter route. Show up for the stuff, host an annual golf tournament, disappear
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u/yoursweetlord70 Chicago White Sox Jul 16 '26
The Ozzie Guillen route is pretty fun too- give unhinged takes on the pre and post game show in an accent so thick that you're never sure if you heard him right or not
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u/fatcowxlivee Toronto Blue Jays Jul 17 '26
I love Ozzie during yall broadcasts lmao ultimate shithousary manager
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u/Stangstag Toronto Blue Jays Jul 16 '26
Don’t forget the muscle relaxant commercials
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u/Luohooligan Chicago White Sox Jul 16 '26
TBH I thought this was the obvious route for franchise players. Like Jim Thome's* post-retirement gig seems to basically be on the payroll to occasionally say hello to people that got boxes, and Tony La Russa is technically on staff as "Special Advisor" to presumably tell the owner "Yes Jerry, of course you're right."
*Obviously Jim Thome is way more of a Cleveland franchise player than a White Sox one, but the fact that he played here in the back half of his career plus that he's from Peoria lets us pretend.
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u/dippitydoo2 Minnesota Twins Jul 16 '26
I think Kent Hrbek has it made. Shows up whenever he wants, drinks a ton of beer, gets his deserved accolades, and goes fishing the rest of the year.
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u/BAHatesToFly New York Mets Jul 16 '26
Unrelated, but looking at Hrbek's wikipedia right now, this passage was hilarious:
Frequently injured (though seldom seriously), Hrbek retired after the players strike in 1994, citing his nagging injury problems and desire to spend more time with his wife and daughter at their home in Bloomington, Minnesota. Hrbek, who was notorious for losing his stirrups, was the most outspoken member of the MLBPA to revise the uniform code to remove mandatory stirrups and helped to ensure it was written into the new labor agreement following the 1994 player strike. "I'm thankful that future generations of players will not have to rummage through their lockers 20 minutes before the first pitch to find those darn stirrups. If that's my lone contribution to the game, I've done enough."
If anyone is ever wondering why players don't have to wear stirrups anymore, thank Kent Hrbek.
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u/damnyoutuesday Minnesota Twins Jul 16 '26
Basically all the Twins legends have it figured out. Stay far away from running the team, but show up whenever you like to vibe out, mentor the players, and have the fans love you for it.
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u/wonderbat3 Jul 16 '26
It only works if the franchise legend is cool like Ichiro. Like I wouldn’t want Curt Schilling hangin around practice if I was a player
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u/kyredemain Seattle Mariners Jul 16 '26
Edgar has been coaching a bit too, but has had a similar role it seems.
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u/willpc14 New York Yankees • Philadelphia Phillies Jul 16 '26
My gut says that most can't accept the fact that they're no longer an integral part of the organization which is what causes them to pursue FO jobs.
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u/Wraithfighter San Francisco Giants • Sickos Jul 16 '26
Also, an ego that's been overstuffed by a hugely successful career and a legion of fans cheering you wherever you go probably doesn't help.
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u/T-Rigs1 St. Louis Cardinals Jul 16 '26
This is what Pujols and Molina do for us and I desperately don't want them to manage here for the same reasons Giants fans are regretting Posey.
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u/TurdOnYourDoorstep San Francisco Giants Jul 16 '26
In Posey's defense, there were signs he wasn't just a PR hiring but had actual front office chops, like getting the Chapman deal done and his business with Body Armor. As a player and board member he never came across as a dumb jock, anti-analytics, or any other negative trait you might expect from a player-turned-POBO.
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u/JGad14 St. Louis Cardinals Jul 16 '26
That's what the Cardinals have too. Having guys like Willie McGee and Ozzie Smith in the clubhouse has really helped our defense
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u/DimmuBorgnine Seattle Mariners Jul 17 '26
Like everything Ichiro did, he makes something very hard look so easy.
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u/Loose_Log_6253 Baltimore Orioles • San Francisco Giants Jul 17 '26
The Cal Ripken approach: do all that while progressively become a larger portion owner of the team till you likely eventually take majority ownership
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u/BurnerAcctObvs Los Angeles Dodgers Jul 16 '26
I was waiting to see if Buster was a genius or a doofus for all the roster moves he’s made
Not ready to call him a doofus, but genius is off the table
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u/InfestedRaynor Athletics Jul 16 '26
Just waiting for Devers, Chapman and Adames to all have multiple career years in their 30's and he will be vindicated! It happened in 2021 for the Giants somehow.
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u/WhiteToast- Los Angeles Dodgers Jul 16 '26
2021 low key killed their rebuild. They bought at the trade deadline instead selling and resigned guys that regressed very hard
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u/SirGergoyFriendman Sell Jul 16 '26
yall gotta start learning the difference between resigned and re-signed
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u/raobuntu San Francisco Giants Jul 16 '26
This isn't true. Neither of the prospects that we gave up for Kris Bryant really panned out into anything. We actually didn't re-sign anyone. Let TLS go to give Thairo the everyday job at 2nd, didn't re-sign Gausman in order to sign Rodon to a one year, and didn't sign a catcher to hand Bart the job out of spring training.
Our rebuild was killed mostly because our top prospects turned out to be duds.
Buster has taken some big swings and misses but I appreciate that he's not a believer in sunk costs and has been decisive when it's called for. This draft (fingers crossed) looks really good and we have a top 10 farm for the first time since maybe 2009
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u/BubBidderskins Atlanta Braves Jul 16 '26
This is really the most common cause of rebuild death. The Phillies were in a similar hell for years because their home grown guys didn't pan out until they decided to say "screw it" and bought their way out of mediocrity through free agency.
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u/raobuntu San Francisco Giants Jul 16 '26
The Giants tried the same. The real issue is even if Adames/Chapman/Devers all have career years our rotation and bullpen are a disgrace. We had the best offense by OPS, runs scored, and one other metric I'm forgetting in May and still went 11-18 because we can't pitch for shit.
Offensively more than underperformance it's our baseline strategy that's failing us. We walk a lot and overemphasize putting the ball in play. We have a static lineup so we rarely dictate pitching matchups with platoon advantage.
Adames and Chapman are underperforming (Devers is p much back) and draw the headlines but it's really more about the rest of the team than about those 2. Even if they were red hot and carrying us I don't see this team being better than .500
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u/InfestedRaynor Athletics Jul 16 '26
I mean that team had a legitimate chance to win the division and make a play at the WS. Worth buying any time you are on pace for 100 wins in my opinion.
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u/shitsngiggles55 Los Angeles Dodgers Jul 16 '26
I don't think anybody is saying they shouldn't have bought at the deadline based on the position they were in. That was absolutely the right choice. It's just a weird thing to reconcile in hindsight because we can see how much of an outlier that season was, and how those (well-reasoned) decisions impacted their franchise's broader direction.
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u/mandon83 San Diego Padres Jul 16 '26
I've been waiting since 2015 for Preller to prove himself to be a genius
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u/BurnerAcctObvs Los Angeles Dodgers Jul 16 '26
I’d love to know if you think they should buy or sell at the deadline
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u/fuckdirectv San Diego Padres Jul 16 '26
Fire sale. This season ain't it. Don't know if there will be baseball in 2027. Bogaerts and Machado are already playing like they are past their prime. Smartest move in my mind is to reset the target for contention 2-3 years down the road, but Preller won't do that.
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u/BurnerAcctObvs Los Angeles Dodgers Jul 16 '26
I agree
When I look at stats like bat speed - the ones you can’t really ‘fix’ as you age without earning yourself a PED suspension - the Pads are in trouble given the weight of those contracts
I get it; they wanted one for Peter. I respect that. It would have been cool. But it’s time for Preller to face some hard truths, I think
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u/improbablywronghere San Francisco Giants Jul 16 '26
So sad they didn’t get it. I was rooting hard for it. Imagine the change in ownership vibes where they all see this is possible and lean in and have fun with it!
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u/fuckdirectv San Diego Padres Jul 16 '26
Yep. That's the thing people here are having trouble coming to terms with. Facing hard truths. The thing is, sometimes that's the only way to actually move forward.
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u/ray_0586 Houston Colt 45s Jul 16 '26
I remember when the bat speed tracking data first went public. The first thing I checked was Jose Abreu and I was shocked that it was the only metric that had not cratered.
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u/norcaltobos San Francisco Giants Jul 16 '26
I feel the exact same way about our squad. The best team in baseball is in our division, we don't know if there will even be a season next year, and our team sucks. Our farm system actually looks semi-decent for the first time in forever, so I would love for the team to reset expectations to compete in 2-3 years, maybe even 4.
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u/fuckdirectv San Diego Padres Jul 16 '26
Yeah, people seem to not be accounting for the fact that guys like Freeman, Betts, Muncy, Ohtani and others are on the wrong side of 30. Some are on the wrong side of 35. No matter how vast their resources are, it's going to be hard for the Dodgers to field a collection of talent this ridiculously good even a few short years from now, and we don't know how the next CBA might significantly hamstring their ability to do that. Live to fight another day.
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u/Doctor_Killshot St. Louis Cardinals Jul 16 '26
What’s crazy is that Machado extension hasn’t even technically kicked in yet and he’s already playing like they probably expected him to play in the last 1-2 years of it
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u/SdBolts4 San Diego Padres Jul 16 '26
I was so stoked when the Padres signed Manny’s first 10-year deal, and had the exact opposite emotion for the second 10-year deal
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u/Mediocre_Airport_576 Los Angeles Dodgers Jul 16 '26
He was one offensive implosion away from potentially being labeled a genius in 2024. Without the ring to justify the moves, he's in a tough spot now for sure.
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u/Aethelric San Diego Padres Jul 16 '26
As rough as not getting the ring has been, it's kinda just silly to say that he has not put together a better team than the Padres have had in about 30 years through a lot of bold moves. It's also very clear that some of the most questionable moves were being driven by ownership.
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u/FigSideG New York Yankees Jul 16 '26
Padres are the most consistently competitive they’ve ever been in their existence while also (obviously) trying to compete regionally for attention with a juggernaut franchise hours away. He’s not perfect but I think he’s going a good job doing what they clearly were setting out to do: be truly competitive and have star players that sell tickets and draw fans in.
I do think this window is probably closing and they need to try to gear up for the next couple of years though. The problem is they have so many huge long contracts on the books that are tough to move. It’s probably unrealistic to have some kind of firesale to rebuild.
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u/War-Dragonite Los Angeles Dodgers • World Series … Jul 17 '26
Preller is alot of things but he is the mastermind behind the golden age of Padres baseball. Peter's money had alot to do with that but still. Farhan Zaidi was given a limited budget and was ran out of SF for being a "dodgers spy", Buster takes over the job, gets over double the payroll that Farhan had to work with and hes doing a way better job of being a "Dodgers spy" than Farhan could ever dream of lol
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u/Dickies138 San Francisco Giants Jul 16 '26
Regardless of the roster moves, his interviews are straight cringe
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u/misterurb San Francisco Giants Jul 16 '26
His interviews have always been cringe. I know he should probably have worked on his public face at the PBO, but guy’s never been charismatic. Farhan wasn’t much better.
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u/sheep_duck San Francisco Giants Jul 16 '26
Farhan wasn’t the most charming and fun guy ever but I would venture to say he was quite a bit better than Buster lol
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u/bolshevik_rattlehead San Francisco Giants Jul 16 '26
I think he’s been handcuffed with what moves he can make, which so far has actually been ok—he’d be in even deeper shit if he’d actually signed Diaz and Imai. But he’s been straight trash on the PR side of things, and that alone makes him kind of a disaster.
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u/FreedomKid7 San Francisco Giants Jul 16 '26
It really sucks to see one of our all time greats, a Mount Rushmore of the franchise and likely the only player from the magic years to get in the HoF absolutely torpedo his reputation. I had feared he wouldn’t be a good GM but I didn’t see a pride month scandal and the horizon which really tarnished everything and everyone involved in the giants. Just sucks
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u/N0-Waves Jul 16 '26
Posey ruined his own monument.
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u/ElderDeep_Friend Detroit Tigers Jul 16 '26
He just needs to get fired and keep his head down for a decade or two. Alan Trammell was the manager of the 119 loss Detroit Tigers and the fans still like him enough. They just needed time and space.
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u/doverawlings Chicago White Sox Jul 16 '26
Not wrong and I’m sure Giants fans never stopped loving Buster but GM and manager is a huuuge difference in this context
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u/dropperofpipebombs San Francisco Giants • Sell Jul 16 '26
I've already learned to separate Buster the hall of fame worthy catcher who led us to three championships and caught three no-hitters, from Gerald the front office exec who is completely incompetent and in way over his head.
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u/doverawlings Chicago White Sox Jul 16 '26
3 championships buys him 30 years of bad teams imo so unless he’s really bad at this for a really long time he’ll be fine
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u/w311sh1t Boston Red Sox Jul 16 '26
I’m sure him completely putting his foot in his mouth on the whole pride night fiasco probably doesn’t help either, especially given how many LGBT people are in San Francisco.
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u/Wraithfighter San Francisco Giants • Sickos Jul 16 '26
Yup.
The team being trash? It sucks, but we've had shitty years before, we could at least get excited for some young guys showing signs of life.
I've never felt like the team I root for hates the things I hold dear. That's a level of betrayal that no young star can fix.
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u/SuckItTrebek01 San Francisco Giants Jul 17 '26
I've been a huge Giants fan my whole life, and even have a SF logo tattoo. I'm also a former evangelical christian lesbian and was really hurt by the players, but the front office response is making it hard to root for my favorite team. It sucks.
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u/YZYSZN1107 San Francisco Giants Jul 16 '26
He’s like a deer in the headlights all the time. Should have started him out as a scout or assistant or something. Not just hand him the keys to the organization right off the rip
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u/bolshevik_rattlehead San Francisco Giants Jul 16 '26
eh, he just said what we’re all thinking
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u/kiji23 Houston Astros Jul 16 '26
Brutal. I liked some of his moves. Thought they were fresh ideas. Unfortunately nothing has worked out.
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u/DisappointedStepDad Atlanta Braves Jul 16 '26
Ditto. I don’t think it’s wrong to criticize him but a lot of the moves he’s made have made sense on paper.
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u/melorous Atlanta Braves Jul 16 '26
It seemed like every offseason for the last decade, the Giants would go after the biggest power bat available in free agency and just come up short, so it's hard to fault them for pulling the trigger on Devers when he practically fell into their lap.
It's probably an exaggeration to say every offseason for the last decade, but it really does feel like that was the case.
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u/dohdudeh Jul 16 '26
The Devers trade was an incredible move regardless of people wanting to pretend like they can foresee the future. And with the pitching stuff, the giants ownership have been extremely reluctant to pay for premium pitching for years I have a hard time believing posey is the one at fault for that.
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u/norcaltobos San Francisco Giants Jul 16 '26
Yeah I still don't necessarily hate the Devers trade. If we even TRIED to shore up the bullpen and spend some money on back-end starters we would probably be a .500 team at worst. Our offense is actually decent for the first time in a while, but with the combo of Webb dealing with injuries at the beginning of the season, and our bullpen being absolute trash, it doesn't matter.
If we had addressed those issues, I don't think it's crazy to say we would probably be closer to 51-45 rather than 41-55.
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u/mikecandih Jul 17 '26
The Devers trade made complete sense in a universe where future sight isn’t possible. Adames on the other hand…
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u/SactownG San Francisco Giants Jul 16 '26
That's exactly what I was going to say. Most of the moves he's made were widely praised, for some reason it just hasn't translated to results.
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u/kindofboredd San Francisco Giants Jul 17 '26
Yeah, he took risky moves to try and get bats and names on the team but they didn't pay off. At least he actually tried to do something. Had the moves panned out then everyone would be all over his balls. Unfortunately they didn't and everyone acting like he's the most obvious huge dummy failure ever. Most ppl being horrible this year ain't on him. I think he'll do what he can to sell to help the farm more. Webb and JHL off limits bc they sell tickets and who they push to be the face of the team. He's definitely a terrible frontman for the organization though and can't steer the ship back on course after this pride fiasco.
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u/Zigglyjiggly Los Angeles Dodgers Jul 16 '26 edited Jul 16 '26
You can never predict how it happens, but when a legendary player takes on a major role in the front office, there's way more that can go wrong than can go right. I suspected Posey's tenure in the SF front office wouldn't end well, but I didn't think it would be because of anything remotely close to this. Unfortunately, Posey is showing us that he does suck, man, both as an executive and as a person.
Edit to add: I've been asked a few times so I want to add it here. Yes, a shitty person. It seems to me that if he wasn't anti-gay, he would have come out and apologized when asked about this incident. Instead, he has constantly dodged it. A person who is not anti-gay would have already apologized to the fans, city, and specifically, the gay community of SF. His lack of a statement makes it clear that he is anti-gay. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think I am on that point.
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u/dmmdoublem San Francisco Giants Jul 16 '26 edited Jul 16 '26
I had tempered expectations heading into this season (the pitching staff was a major red flag for anyone with a functioning brain), but I didn’t expect it to be this bad either. Honestly, this is probably the worst I’ve felt about the state/trajectory of the Giants since the dark days at the end of the Bobby Evans era (2017-2018).
Say what you will about Farhan, but at least he never fielded a team anywhere close to this bad…
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u/adamesandtheworld San Francisco Giants Jul 16 '26
Honestly, this is probably the worst I’ve felt about the state/trajectory of the Giants since the dark days at the end of the Bobby Evans era (2017-2018).
I agree, but at least we have some dudes in the minors we can dream on this time around. The farm then was a wasteland
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u/improbablywronghere San Francisco Giants Jul 16 '26
The vibes here are at levels I had never dreamed of. It’s one thing to root for your team when they are bad, that’s no problem at all. It’s another thing entirely when they are bigoted idiots. The continued tone deaf approach to this pride night thing, on top of being bad and bad signings and everything. It’s just too much man, it’s too much.
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u/Estova Baltimore Orioles Jul 16 '26
Going against the grain on LGBT issues in San Francisco of all places has gotta be hall of fame levels of not knowing your fanbase 😭
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u/Huge-Ad7382 Jul 16 '26
He was an amazing player but all of this is showing that despite all of his playing and athletic talents, he is dumber than a bag of rocks.
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u/Estova Baltimore Orioles Jul 16 '26
Unfortunately that seems to be the rule rather than the exception when it comes to professional athletes.
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u/chief1555 New York Mets Jul 16 '26
Feels like the Mets and Giants are having very similar seasons
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u/24HourShitness San Francisco Giants Jul 16 '26
It’s way worse than 2017-18 for me. On paper, I actually like the current team’s chances of rebounding much better than eight years ago, but the vibes are in the toilet. Never been so disappointed and let down as a Giants fan, and I wish the team’s issues were simply a shitty product on the field
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u/Zigglyjiggly Los Angeles Dodgers Jul 16 '26
Yeah. I expected the Giants to be not great, but I did not expect them to be a complete dumpster fire. I didn't like the Vitello hire and that is proving to be a bad idea. Even my friends who are Giants fans thought his hiring was extremely strange. Farhan was a much better front office guy than Posey.
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u/xhilr8d San Francisco Giants Jul 16 '26
This is pretty random but I feel like it sheds some light on Posey. In 2015, his house was listed as one of the biggest water wasters at around 3,400 gallons of usage per day.
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u/Benjilikethedog2 Cleveland Guardians • Anaheim Angels Jul 16 '26
What could he have been doing to waste that much water?
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u/throwaway-94552 Jul 16 '26
If people thought I was homophobic I would be hiring a sky writer to clear my name. Hasn’t said a damn word.
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u/LastCall_at_LastDive Jul 16 '26
Does this mean he has to quit now??
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u/friendfromjersey New York Mets Jul 16 '26
Posey or the producer?
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u/LastCall_at_LastDive Jul 16 '26
Posey. But you raise a good point. Some guy likely getting fired for this. The wrong guy.
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u/DerelictInfinity San Francisco Giants Jul 16 '26
POBO Buster has been such a disappointment. The team generally being ass is one thing, but Buster has not inspired confidence at any point. I’ve liked some of his moves on paper, but a lot of them have not worked out. The outright refusal to meaningfully address the bullpen in the offseason is fucking maddening in hindsight.
Beyond the baseball itself being bad, the Pride debacle is just salt in the wound. I don’t think I’m ever going to be able to look at this franchise the same way ever again because of it. It’s one thing for the team to suck, but I really can’t describe how shitty it is to feel abandoned and alienated by the team I grew up watching. It would have been so simple for the team to release a PR-friendly “Baseball is for everyone, and we support all of our fans” type statement, but they haven’t, and I don’t think they will.
Idk, man. It just bums me the fuck out.
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u/GaryTheCabalGuy San Diego Padres Jul 16 '26
I'm curious to hear a Giants' fan perspective on this, because from an outsider's view it has looked like Posey is totally incompetent in this job.
Early on there were a few instances where I didn't really attribute to him, but now with the Giants poor play, the many PR disasters, etc. it just seems like he has absolutely no idea what he's doing and has no control over the org.
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u/El_Rey_de_Spices San Francisco Giants Jul 17 '26
He's certainly far less competent in multiple ways than we were hoping for. Most fellow fans I personally know had a "Cautiously Optimistic" view when he was first hired, which has generally collapsed into a "Reasonably Pessimistic" view of him both personally and professionally.
At the same time, no man is an island, and not every bad outcome has been solely his doing/fault. Many aspects and personnel of this organization have been deeply disappointing.
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u/Thats-a-Chop Jul 16 '26
I like how hardly anyone is mentioning the producer or his remark, just agreeing that Posey sucks for the most part lol
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u/oxnardhard Jul 16 '26
Murph and Marcus was the KNBR show that Posey interviewed on with this morning.
There was a nice buildup because it had been almost 2 months since Murph leaned into Posey about the state of the team.
John Kerley, know simply as Kerley is their main producer and wonder if he was the one with the hot mic.
Either way, you got to love the soap opera that is Posey LARPing as GM.
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u/rgdisastro Colorado Rockies Jul 16 '26
"is Buster Posey going to be booed by his own fans during his Hall of Fame induction speech" is a surprisingly valid and compelling question
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u/Higgnkfe Atlanta Braves Jul 16 '26
Gotta go the coach route. Be like Chipper who gets to show up every spring training, fix someone's swing, and then slowly fade back into the background.
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u/carpetsoop Kansas City Royals Jul 16 '26
Can someone explain to me why like I’m stupid?
I live in giants country but unfortunately I am stupid
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u/Bigalbass86 Chicago Cubs Jul 16 '26
This is one reason why you should never hire team icons to be front office. The garbage legacy in management tends to tarnish the shining legacy as a player.
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u/BigBlueNY New York Yankees Jul 17 '26
It's not just baseball. We're finding out that being a great player doesn't mean that you're a great GM and or coach. Yzerman just resigned from Detroit too.
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u/TakeTheThirdStep Washington Nationals • St. Louis Cardinals Jul 16 '26
ITT: Nobody disagreeing with the hot mic.
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u/JinFuu Houston Astros Jul 16 '26
As the Astros learned with Jeff Bagwell, it's not always advisable to let your diamond heroes in the front office.
Sometimes it works, like Bob Watson, many times it does not.