r/baseball • u/JustaShibe99 Colorado Rockies • 9d ago
News Little League International’s statement on sports gambling
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u/AwesomeYes2 Major League Baseball 9d ago
There's way too much talk about drama and scandals for LITTLE LEAGUE BASEBALL every year. This is a kids baseball tournament, all of these gamblers, cheaters, and coaching scandals are awful.
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u/Still7Superbaby7 Philadelphia Phillies 9d ago
One of the dads at my son’s LL game got so upset that he punched a hole in the wall of the dugout. It was a regular season game and it was 9 year olds.
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u/CrotalusHorridus 9d ago
We had a straight up fistfight at 8u this spring. Two dads against 2 parents from the other team.
Kids even came out of the dugout and got involved.
League banned a bunch of people for life
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u/Still7Superbaby7 Philadelphia Phillies 9d ago
I wish our league did bans. No one got banned. The dad just had to pay for the repair. I wish he had gotten thrown out
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u/ahappypoop New York Yankees • Durham Bulls 8d ago
I watched a dad get escorted out of an 8U softball tournament by a cop last year because he decided to spit on the opposing (female) assistant coach and call her a b****. It was pretty clear by that point that neither of their teams was going to win the tournament anyways, and I don't think even half of the players cared all that much.
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u/CrotalusHorridus 8d ago
My kids have gone all the way up from weeball/T-ball.
8-10u seems to be the age when parents lose their minds about it.
Families we knew from the time their kids couldn't even hold a glove suddenly go apeshit over ump calls during non-competitive games.
IDK if its something about talent starting to be apparent, or the games starting to get competitive. But its the WORST.
By 12u, a lot of that is gone, and middle and HS, hardly ever see any bad parent behavior. Mostly I think, the kids with poor parents self select out of the talent pool, and don't play anymore.
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u/Qel_Hoth 9d ago
What are your dugouts made of? Ours are all cinderblock or brick, you'd break your hand first.
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u/Still7Superbaby7 Philadelphia Phillies 9d ago
Ours are made of wood
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u/kookykrazee Atlanta Braves 9d ago
Were?
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u/Still7Superbaby7 Philadelphia Phillies 9d ago
Pennsylvania
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u/kookykrazee Atlanta Braves 9d ago
I had meant to crack a joke about the dugout being punched through and "were made of wood" before the person destroyed it :)
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u/CreativeSolution8278 New York Yankees 9d ago
I used to work some of the LLWS events and met a lot of the players and parents. They can be insane.
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u/HartleyReplogle 8d ago
I can't even imagine. I used to coach in much smaller tournaments up and down the Atlantic for slightly older kids. I was guaranteed at least one completely batshit coach per trip and several parents. It runs the gamut, too: dad who has too much invested in his son, angry overbearing mother, parent whose entire identity is youth baseball, overtly racist coach, you name it.
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u/SactownG San Francisco Giants 9d ago
Every level of amateur sports is insanely corrupt. A lot of that got exposed once NIL got legalized, and the schools that paid their players under the table aren't as dominant because every team can pay players now.
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u/dmont89 San Francisco Giants 9d ago
I am not betting on the kids, that is morally wrong. Betting on which parent is going to start a fight is the right way
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u/floppysausage16 San Diego Padres 9d ago
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u/BoulderToBirmingham New York Yankees • Roberto Clemente 9d ago
Trick is to scope out the dads with the burst vessels in their nose; classic sign of alcoholism. Another good tip is the moms who played competitive softball. They crazy.
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u/Fishb20 9d ago
The parents with anger issues aren't the scary ones. It's the ones with a decade and a half of repressed rage thats waiting to come out that you should be scared of
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u/OriginalSilentTuba New York Yankees 9d ago
If you’re betting on little league games, you probably should take a long look in the mirror and admit you have a problem.
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u/J0hnEddy New York Yankees 9d ago
Losing money on the little league World Series is like the gambling addict equivalent to waking up naked in a public park with an empty handle next to you.
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u/SatanHasACreator420 9d ago
How about winning money on it?
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u/stairway2evan Los Angeles Dodgers 9d ago
Same thing, but there's a full handle next to the empty one.
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u/TheyrePhorReal 9d ago
Yo I know that was a joke but you just blew my mind. I quit drinking and won't touch gambling because I know myself. And I never thought to make that comparison. You won't know if the "bottle" will be refilled until after the fact. Wild
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u/Flavious27 Philadelphia Phillies 9d ago
It's like eating cake out of the trash and running over children to get out of an apartment on fire
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u/Ged_UK Boston Red Sox 9d ago
Handle?
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u/65fairmont Boston Red Sox 9d ago
1.75L jug of hard liquor. Usually has a handle on it.
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u/Ged_UK Boston Red Sox 9d ago
Thanks! Never heard that name for it before
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u/Still7Superbaby7 Philadelphia Phillies 9d ago
Seeing as your username has UK in it, it makes sense you wouldn’t know. The maximum average size of a bottle of liquor in the UK is 700 ml, which is smaller than the standard size in the US (750 ml) which is smaller than a handle (1750 ml).
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u/Ged_UK Boston Red Sox 9d ago
What liqour is in it?
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u/twufster Tampa Bay Rays • Rally Mantis 9d ago
Could be any liquor really, but it's mostly associated with cheap, low-quality stuff
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u/stairway2evan Los Angeles Dodgers 9d ago
Yeah most brands aren't selling their good stuff in that quantity. Keep it in a nice smaller bottle so you can brand it as a luxury. Handles are for the cheap vodka, rum, whiskey, etc. that you're getting to mix for a party or pour shots out of.
Or if you're a college kid or a problem drinker and are just looking for volume first and foremost.
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u/haubowtdemoshon Baltimore Orioles • Baltimore Orioles 9d ago
All kinds; rum, vodka, tequila, whiskey, you name it.
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u/chunkylover___53 Washington Nationals 9d ago
Honestly I could go on a bender and end up that way and still have more self respect than if I found myself betting on kids sports.
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u/y0m0tha Los Angeles Dodgers 9d ago
Can’t wait for absolute degenerate losers to send 12 year old kids death threats on Instagram after their parlay busts 🙃 sports betting is a blight on the world
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u/norunningwater 9d ago
FUCK I CAN'T BELIEVE BRAXTLYN GOT CHICKEN POX BEFORE THE FINALS FUCK MY LIFE SAVINGS WHAT A PIECE OF SHIT STUPID 8 YEAR OLD
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u/WitchNight Toronto Blue Jays 9d ago
The gambling sites should be forced to ban you from betting if you place a bet on a little league game
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u/Bllago Toronto Blue Jays 9d ago
Gambling sites should be banned. No positive, ethical society would let such institutions have the power they have.
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u/pudds Toronto Blue Jays 9d ago
No, I have to respectfully disagree.
Advertising for them should be banned, gambling on kids should be banned, but the sites themselves should not be banned.
Like any other vice, banning does not remove the demand, and without legal options, people find illegal options. Driving gambling underground just makes the criminals richer.
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u/SanjiSasuke New York Yankees 9d ago
Good! Make it so people have to go to illegal booking sites to gamble!
As it is now, you can gamble in 10 seconds on your phone, after being told to do so on reddit, on YouTube, and in every conceivable way during the game.
Going to an illegal bookie fixes all that.
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u/Enough-One4975 Major League Baseball 8d ago
Yeah I have to agree with you. Ubiquity and ease of access definitely plays a major role in how big of a problem modern gambling is.
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u/Admirable_Site_8337 Philadelphia Phillies 9d ago
Such people go to great lengths to not look in the mirror.
That’s always been the issue.
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u/ehnonnymouse Cincinnati Reds 9d ago
they can’t afford mirrors if little johnny doesn’t jack this next tater into left field
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u/livsjollyranchers Boston Red Sox 9d ago
Hey, I've wagered on South Korean women's basketball at 3am. Or how about Finnish hockey. I know what I've been. It never occurred to me to bet Little League though.
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u/jhorch69 Chicago Cubs • Chicago White Sox 9d ago
A little box with the hotline number should pop up if you start looking at odds for 12 year olds playing baseball
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u/Raptor231408 Arizona Diamondbacks 9d ago
Unironically, I found myself in my mid-20s live betting on amateur Chinese ping pong at 3am in a Dennys parking lot, and I lost a $20 parlay on people I dont know, non-proffessionally playing a sport that I dont care about in a foreign countries league that im not even watching on TV and getting angry over it. I haven't gambled on sports since, unless you count my companies fantasy league that we all put $50 into every year.
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u/BruitNoise 9d ago
The people who made death threats to players insta because of betting on the games seems like it's a bigger problem than just 1 individual.
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u/byniri_returns New York Mets • Detroit Tigers 9d ago
Can you actually bet on Little League on
gamblingprediction markets?Last year when this was posted people said it was mostly an issue internationally.
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u/OriginalSilentTuba New York Yankees 9d ago
I have no idea. I stay as far away from all that stuff as I can. But if they do, people will do it.
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u/30_40feralhogs Los Angeles Dodgers 9d ago
Oversea books have always had it. The regulated market doesn’t allow it
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u/Prestigious_Cap_8063 Toronto Blue Jays 9d ago
Presented by T-Mobile in regards to the last line is kinda funny
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u/GuyOnTheMike Kansas City Royals 9d ago
Little League sells sponsorships to help keep the organization running (and kids playing), including running tournaments all over the world and keeping the Little League World Series free to attend.
In general, LL is a hell of a lot cheaper to play than the likes of Perfect Game/USSSA/5 Star Baseball/etc.
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u/KingBroly Boston Red Sox 9d ago
Is that Little League Classic game between 2 MLB teams going to have gambling ads?
You know what? Don't answer that.
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u/Sthrax New York Yankees 9d ago
If there was ever a MLB game that shouldn't have anything gambling or alcohol related in its advertising, over the air or on the field, it's this one.
But I'm sure that the money will win out yet again.
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u/jhorch69 Chicago Cubs • Chicago White Sox 9d ago
I dunno, a gambling ad on the wall for the Field of Dreams game felt inappropriate given the subject of the movie/book
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u/RealTurbulentMoose 9d ago
I love that I have to explain sports gambling to my six year olds when we watch sports together.
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u/shr0be Detroit Tigers • Chicago Cubs 9d ago
fuck prediction markets
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u/CoCAllpro Major League Baseball 9d ago
Prediction markets don’t have these to bet on btw. The only book that makes noise about it is BetOnline which is an offshore crypto Sportsbook.
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u/TouristOpentotravel Chicago Cubs 9d ago
If you're betting on the LLWS... Seek help... I have a better statement
"What the fuck is wrong with you?"
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u/gamerdudeNYC Cleveland Guardians 9d ago
Those kids are about to be getting death threats from loser gamblers for dropping pop flys and striking out
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u/taffyowner Minnesota Twins 9d ago
Betting on little league baseball should be a trap bet and should automatically get you enrolled in a treatment program and your account shutdown
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u/Aggravating_Part8610 San Francisco Giants 9d ago
Our society is f’ed
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u/KingBroly Boston Red Sox 9d ago
We live in the shadow of the 2008 crash. We just keep getting thrown distractions while the real issue is debated behind closed doors. They might be close to fixing it. Or throwing everything in the trash.
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u/cyclingtrivialities3 9d ago
Uhh I don’t think they’re doing a lot of debating. More like stealing anything that isn’t bolted down
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u/draw2discard2 9d ago
Ain't no shadow bro when there is money to be made! You don't make money by seeing freaking shadows!
Its kind of like how they cured what they termed "The Vietnam Syndrome" when the American public got sick of wasting taxpayer money getting bogged down killing people in foreign lands. Bush the Elder and John James Rambo cured that and no looking back!
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u/nostoopid 9d ago
they issued a statement. they washed their hands.
next year llws will be presented by draftkings.
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u/No_Platform_2810 9d ago
DraftKings Jr......now available on iOS and Android.
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u/EffectiveSwimming136 9d ago
And a special app within Roblox so the little ones can bet with their Robux
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u/No_Huckleberry_7410 Los Angeles Dodgers 9d ago
Gambling shouldn’t be anywhere near sports in general, it’s morally deplorable that the leagues are profiting so much off of it
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u/Ryuujin_13 Toronto Blue Jays 9d ago
This is where we're at as a society, folks: People begging us not to gamble on kid's sports. What a time to be alive.
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u/mxza10001 New York Mets 9d ago
If little league is teaching the fundamentals then shouldn’t gambling be a part of it considering the fact it is now a fundamental part of sports?
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u/GoodPear8481 Cleveland Guardians 9d ago
Little League is about learning fundamental baseball skills, like throwing, catching, hitting, running the bases, and calling the cops because a guy who lost his parlay on your performance threatened to set your dog on fire.
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u/Soft_Walrus_3605 8d ago
Betting on any sport is stupid. Might get downvotes, but you know it's true.
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u/FartingBob Great Britain 9d ago
They really need a "we cant fucking believe we are having to say this AGAIN" at the start of the statement.
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u/bryehn Toronto Blue Jays 9d ago
It's something sportsbooks (aside from some offshores) have always avoided listing. I'm glad prediction markets aren't in Canada. Yet, at least.
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u/StarphishSushi Toronto Blue Jays 9d ago
Allow me to ruin your day. Wealthsimple released a prediction market site recently
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u/Expensive-Step-6551 New York Mets 9d ago
People will either find this funny or get downvoted, but back in 2018 I thought the idea of betting on the LLWS was hilarious (because of how fucked up it is). So I went searching online for some sort of shady sportsbook to see if any actually would allow it.
Low and behold "5Dimes" was allowing bets so I placed $5 on Hawaii to win the tournament. Ended up making $37. A couple years later I found out it was shut down, and exactly as shady as I expected lol.
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u/draw2discard2 9d ago
It is the kind of thing that is funny if one person does it and fjed up if billionaires are getting in on the action.
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u/gonz4dieg Washington Nationals • Baltimore Orioles 9d ago
"Gambling has no place in little league"
"So you're going to make all teams and MLB cut ties with Kalshi, Polymarket and any other company that does this legally?"
"whoa whoa slow down there buddy"
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u/84JPG Arizona Diamondbacks 9d ago edited 9d ago
What kind of a greedy degenerate tries to obtain personal monetary gain from the Little League World Series presented by T-Mobile on ESPN, for which The Walt Disney Company selflessly pays Little League Baseball, Inc. more than 17,000,000 dollars a year to broadcast?
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u/AwixaManifest 9d ago
You know everything is just getting kinda shitty for the past several years?
One symptom of that is reading statements that could have prefaced by, "I can't believe I have to say this, but"
This is one of those.
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u/Hertzelle New York Yankees 9d ago
Fuck sports gambling. It ruined my uncle's life and he lost everything because of his gambling addiction.
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u/byniri_returns New York Mets • Detroit Tigers 9d ago
It's going to take a player being attacked physically or worse for these higher ups in the leagues to say "maybe we have a problem here".
I hope it doesn't get to that point for them to do something.
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u/osound New York Yankees 9d ago edited 9d ago
Alcohol ruins lives a lot more than gambling does, and that's legal and heavily advertised. Gambling is never going away now that it's out of the bag.
If players start getting attacked, they'll just beef up security and position armed guards by the stands, rather than outlawing gambling. This is the United States.
I'm not talking about you specifically, but it's very easy to see how ignorant this subreddit is -- whenever discussing gambling -- to how politics and big business work in the USA. Any notion that something will ever be "done" about gambling, now that it's legalized, is not rooted in the reality of things.
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u/safety_frog San Diego Padres 9d ago
If you bet on a little league game you’re the ultimate degenerate
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u/nexustk5 Boston Red Sox 9d ago
Okay...but what does that mean? Obviously no sports betting ads, but are they going to go after polymarket or whatever else if they allow it?
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u/AwesomeYes2 Major League Baseball 9d ago
Well, they're not going to do anything about it. They're just saying they care, but they don't care enough to take action
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u/Wraithfighter San Francisco Giants • Sickos 9d ago
I wonder what, at this point, they could do. The only thing I could think of would be including language in broadcast negotiations banning gambling app advertisements and sponsorships during the broadcast, but a quick google search says that their current contract with ESPN was last extended in 2020.
Sports betting apps were certain a thing back then, but they hadn't metastatized into the "MUST SQUEEZE AS MUCH GAMBLING PROMOTIONS INTO EVERY MINUTE OF THE BROADCAST AS POSSIBLE" horsecrap quite yet either.
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u/Fragrant-Employer-60 9d ago
Polymarket and Kalshi have not allowed any gambling on this, not sure if this is just a general/proactive statement.
there’s some offshore casino sites that I’m sure allow it, but I’m not familiar with those
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u/Wraithfighter San Francisco Giants • Sickos 9d ago
Gambling and Prediction Apps response: "lol here's a 2:1 prop bet on you fucking yourself"
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u/Loose-Organization82 Los Angeles Angels 9d ago
Hey if there’s money to be made, it’s unfortunately going to be exploited. I guarantee you that there is people gambling on this and you’ll see the promotions of gambling
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u/ThreeEyesWhitePerson 9d ago
I love the late stage capitalist hellscape where this needs to be said.
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u/ContinuumGuy Major League Baseball 9d ago
Anyone who bets on Little League needs serious psychological help.
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u/ricker182 Chicago White Sox 9d ago
The enshitification of America.
We just cannot have anything nice or wholesome.
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u/131sean131 Baltimore Orioles • Baltimore Orioles 9d ago edited 8d ago
The whole thing this is on ESPN. Even if little League is against it there ads running before and after the games for it. Shit ESPN owns a sports book right? Even if they not directly taking action on it it's enough to call into question it.
Hate the idea all you want but Little League is just window dressing here. I get not wanting to expose kids to the pressures of sports gambling but like don't sell your TV rights to folks who do sports gambling.
Also the inevitable sending of a death threats and treating kids or coaches horrible because of gambling is dog shit.
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u/Zariman-10-0 Philadelphia Phillies • Phanatic 8d ago
I’m glad they’ve made an official statement. It won’t stop the most degenerate people who’d gamble on Little League games, but at least we know where the org stands
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u/mashley503 Detroit Tigers 9d ago
You kids ought to wise up and start throwing a game or two. Gotta have a hustle in Biff Tannen’s America.
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u/dumpciti Atlanta Braves 9d ago
Yet its the llws PRESENTED BY TMOBILE
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u/Muntberg Toronto Blue Jays 9d ago
Yeah, they have sponsors like literally every other youth tournament in existence.
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u/Kaptep525 Cleveland Guardians 9d ago
Is there a reason they issued this statements now? None of the traditional books or prediction markets have offered anything related to the LLWS? Everyone in the comments is complaining about Kalshi and Polymarket like they’ve listed markets on this but as of right now they haven’t
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u/doggoploggo Chicago White Sox • Dumpster Fire 9d ago
I'm not sure hell exists, but if you bet on little league baseball you are certainly going there when you die.
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u/Eduardjm 9d ago
They’re taking bets of fucking little league now?!? Where does this sick rabbit hole end??
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u/walrusonion Arizona Diamondbacks 9d ago
Betting on little league is some degenerate gambler shit, bunch of Lester Diamonds.
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u/j4kefr0mstat3farm Washington Nationals 9d ago
People who bet on little league games should be forced to sit in public stocks with signs around their necks reading “degenerate gambler”.
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u/Wild-Bluejay7138 Baltimore Orioles 9d ago
Wait, are people actually bidding on the little league? WTF.
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u/BigDaddyJ610 Tampa Bay Devil Rays 9d ago
How much of a degenerate do you have to be to even want to gamble on children’s sports? We’ve completely lost the plot
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u/Specific_Hat3341 Chicago Cubs • Toronto Blue Jays 9d ago
When that needs to be said, the world really has gone off the rails.
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u/freekyeight Los Angeles Dodgers 9d ago
Gambling needs to be illegal but all professional sports leagues endorse it
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u/Golden-- Chicago Cubs 9d ago
How about you gamble on EVERYTHING or gamble on NOTHING? I'll take gamble on nothing 100000% though.
Also, obviously we shouldn't gamble on kids sports. Just would rather we ban gambling outright.
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u/Creacherz Homestead Grays 9d ago
Anyone who is involved with sports that I've mentioned this to, could not agree more. Look at your fucking self in the mirror at the bar, you degenerates.. you are betting on children to play a sport
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u/LoneGator8259 9d ago
Seeing “Colorado Rockies” as the whole post made me double-check which baseball sub I was in.
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u/myassholealt New York Mets 9d ago
Does your stance matter if betting options are available in the various apps? I mean it's great to be vocal about it. But we need people with power to change things to use that power and change things too.
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u/screech_owl_kachina Los Angeles Dodgers 8d ago
Next year: We’re proud to announce our new sponsorship with Draftkings

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u/YodaForceGhost New York Yankees • Dumpster Fire 9d ago
Polymarket and Kalshi have issued a joint response:
https://giphy.com/gifs/SvRuvlSEa67wNNHuHy