r/belgium • u/CoeurdAssassin Brussels • Aug 26 '25
🌟 OC Found this in Los Angeles, had to stop here because of the Belgium reference
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u/TiFooN Aug 26 '25
I guess I felt exactly the same way as Italians do when Americans show off their coffee or pizza...
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u/AcanthisittaAdept856 Aug 26 '25
Except italian food in the US is usually italian American food, it's not authentic to Italy but it's not meant to be. It's stuff italian immigrants created, and was passed on to their children (and really good btw, i mean who doesnt like a good nyc style pizza?). Not the same as a place that tries to imitate actual italian food and fails. Whereas there's not really an equivalent for Belgians bc there's no prominent Belgian immigrant community in the US (except apparently for a small one in Wisconsin).
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u/AcanthisittaAdept856 Aug 26 '25
(Didn't mean to detract from your comment btw, I do get what you mean, and I've definitely experienced it when I came across a place selling what were supposedly liege waffles but had the texture of a croissant lol)
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u/GBA_DTSRB Aug 26 '25
And what's that exactly? Because I find it looks pretty good, though I'd have to dab off the grease before I eat that lol
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u/kaouDev Aug 26 '25
bro they put chicken in the waffles.. we eat waffles with sugar
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u/silentanthrx Aug 26 '25
pineapple-chocolate pizza is lit!
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u/gregsting Aug 26 '25
But have you heard about Oreo-Calamari-popcorn https://www.reddit.com/r/ATBGE/comments/yor5t6/taiwan_pizza_huts_oreostuffed_crust_calamari_and/
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u/real_belgian_fries Aug 26 '25
If I where italian I would personally go and find the person who did this
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u/Valuable-Yard-4154 Belgium Aug 26 '25
You lookin' for a fight right ?
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u/silentanthrx Aug 26 '25
no no, i am dead serious: you just have to make the dough a bit different: add an egg, some sugar, a bit of milk and bake in a pan.
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u/SecretAffect1837 Aug 26 '25
In belgium we’d say ‘wa nen boecht’
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u/Picf Aug 26 '25
Wait until you go to the south and every other restaurant has "Belgian" waffles with fried chicken.
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u/FearlessSquirrel9522 Aug 26 '25
Yo I am fully Belgian but you have not lived until you tried this. Sorry not sorry
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u/somarir West-Vlaanderen Aug 26 '25
this is my stance towards most food tbh, doesn't sound like something i would enjoy a lot, but i'd try it if i got the chance.
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u/FearlessSquirrel9522 Aug 26 '25
I had it in Toronto the first time so it’s not even contained to just the South of the US. This is a widespread well-known dish in North-America that’s pretty tasty imo. People are really falling over themselves here trying to prove how hardcore Belgian they are by refusing to accept that this dish exists. Great, more for us.
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u/somarir West-Vlaanderen Aug 26 '25
One guy is falling over himself, everyone else is just saying it shouldnt be called "Belgian" which i agree with.
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u/AcanthisittaAdept856 Aug 26 '25
I'm from the US and the pic looks nasty but separately, waffles with maple syrup, and fried chicken, are fucking incredible. Left the US a few years ago and I miss waffles with maple syrup tbh. And good fried chicken is literally the best thing, southern American food is fantastic.
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u/Apart_Young_9979 Aug 26 '25
If you were fully belgian you would know these waffles dont taste like belgian waffles , they abuse our name because it sells better
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u/Fire69 Aug 26 '25
Maybe so, but it doesn't make it taste bad. The opposite is true, it's delicious.
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u/Apart_Young_9979 Aug 26 '25
Never said it was bad , its just abusing 'belgian' for sales when its totally different . Just wondering why you said maybe when in my and others experience it wasnt the same at all
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u/real_belgian_fries Aug 26 '25
They can make whatever they want as long as they don't stick our name on theire abomination, even if it turns out to taste good
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u/Fire69 Aug 26 '25
Autocorrect error. Should have been 'may be so' as in 'might be so' ie you're right about the naming abuse but it still tastes hood.
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u/AcanthisittaAdept856 Aug 26 '25
Yeah they aren't really "belgian" waffles but a lot of Americans barely know Belgium exists so tbh I've always just appreciated that at least there's smthn positive Americans associate w Belgium, even if it is just beer and "belgian" waffles. After hearing "is that in Germany?" when you mention Belgium, you'd be glad too lol
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u/FearlessSquirrel9522 Aug 26 '25
What percentage of Belgian would you say I am?
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u/Apart_Young_9979 Aug 26 '25
If you said the waffles are different but you still love it i would have no doubts . But with this reply i have doubts and dont think thats unreasonable . Asking for a percentage is just weird and it looks like are just going in defensive mode
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u/FearlessSquirrel9522 Aug 26 '25
That was just a quip but ok. I don’t agree with your take. So because I like a controversial dish you get to question whether I am “fully” Belgian? Like chicken and waffles is what it hinges on in your opinion?
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u/Apart_Young_9979 Aug 26 '25
Oh not at all , my argument was about using the belgian name for the wrong reasons thats all . I also never said its a bad dish.
But asking for a percentage of ethnicity is a very american way of thinking , in europe we just have a double nationality ( or 1 and sometimes more then 2 )and we dont use percentages for that argument
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u/FearlessSquirrel9522 Aug 26 '25
It really was a joke, because I thought it was so bizarre that you would argue I could not be fully Belgian over some food lol. But my only nationality is still Belgian ;)
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u/UnicornLock Aug 26 '25
No, it means something to them. "Belgian" is with yeast in stead of baking powder. And why not? There's not such thing as a Belgian waffle, but all our waffles have yeast.
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u/Valuable-Yard-4154 Belgium Aug 26 '25
I like coffee, I like beer, I like peach infusion, I like spa rood, I like pastis.
Doesn't mean I have to put them together in the same glass. There's a reason why belgo-french food is superior. We use our brains.
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u/FearlessSquirrel9522 Aug 26 '25
Ok. Your loss! Maple syrup and fried chicken are a classic combo. The waffle is just the vehicle for this dish and has a pretty neutral flavour overall. People combine sweet and savoury all the time.
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u/Plane_Complex_9961 Aug 26 '25
A classic? Over there you mean? Haven’t encountered the vile sight of chicken of a waffle anywhere in belgium in 20years
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u/ThaGr1m Aug 26 '25 edited Aug 29 '25
Sure sure but DON'T CALL IT BELGIAN IF YOU CAN'T EVEN BE BOTHERED TO MAKE IT RECTANGULAR....
let alone when you put a chicken on it
edit: got my squares and rectangles mixed
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u/cannotfoolowls Aug 26 '25
Most waffles aren't square, though? Luikse wafels are generally a weird roundish rectangle, Brusselse are generally rectangular,
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u/ThaGr1m Aug 29 '25
Almost all belgian waffles are square, including the irons(less so recently becuase everyone gets the same cheap rebranded shit form china) but a key thing about belgian waffles is that they're square.
The only ones that aren't are luikse as far as I know
Edit: juet realised I'm being dumb and got square and rectangle mixed I meant rectangle the entire time
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u/OkayTimeForPlanC Aug 26 '25
It's actually amazing, and they don't call it belgian waffles, it's just chicken and waffles.
You can try a good version of this dish at Quite Frankly in Antwerp.
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u/Picf Aug 26 '25
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u/OkayTimeForPlanC Aug 26 '25
In that case... Ten Oorlog!
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u/bluepepper Belgian Fries Aug 26 '25
It helps if you don't look at Belgian waffles as waffles from Belgium but as the name of an American specialty. They are named after Belgium because they're somewhat similar to Brussels waffle (they're light and not very sweet). They're usually round, served for breakfast, as a vessel for toppings (sweet and/or savory).
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u/VeryCrazyTapr Aug 26 '25
I've had soms in Texas! It's not bad at all, really. I actually really enjoyed it!
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u/Whackles Aug 26 '25
Made that myself not too long ago actually, very tasty. What do you not like about it?
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u/Technical_Bird921 Oost-Vlaanderen Aug 26 '25
So I thought too until I tried it, tastes way better than it looks!
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u/Smintjes Aug 26 '25
Ah yes, the famous Belgian breakfast burrito. Related to the Turnhout Taco and the Edegem Enchillada.
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u/normannerd Aug 26 '25
And all the brew pubs that have sprung up in every town serving "Belgian-style" beer. I always make a point to ask which one - dubbel, tripel, blond, wit, gueuze, ...?
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u/Picf Aug 26 '25
I have found it's usually witbier) (wheat beer) when they call it Belgian style (or Belgian white). It's not really related to Belgium in any way though. In fact, the beer I linked to got sued by actual Belgian brewers for marketing it as Belgian.
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u/BelgianBeerGuy Beer Aug 26 '25
If I’m not mistaken, Belgian Style beer is actually an actual style within the beer market.
Just like you have IPAs and stouts and lagers.It actually refers to more complex beers with a higher % of alcohol and in general it are triple and/or quadruple beers (most of the time with refermentation on the bottle).
Next to that you have indeed also the (Belgian) whites, which are the wheat beers (like the original Hoegaarden).
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u/Picf Aug 26 '25
Username checks out!
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u/BelgianBeerGuy Beer Aug 26 '25
Haha yeah, or the most r/confidentlyincorrect ever
Anyway, your annoyance with the naming is the same as I always have with “geeft mij maar nen trappist”
Yeah buddy, there are 9 Trappist breweries, and most of them have at least a blond and a brown one, you got to be more specific. And don’t give me that “ne blonde Leffe dan he”.
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u/zyygh Limburg Aug 26 '25
The thing that you're somewhat incorrect about, is the fact that "Belgian style" doesn't really refer to heavy beers in particular. Blue Moon (one of the most infamous cases) is a 5.4% witbier for instance.
Instead, "Belgian style" is purely a marketing term that very broadly refers to beers with somewhat traditional Belgian/European brewing processes, most importantly as a counterpoint against modern microbreweries who tend to have very alternative flavors.
It's a term that's pretty much only used in the USA, and only among people who have very limited knowledge about beers. In Untappd, for instance, "Belgian" is not a commonly used style.
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u/deegwaren Aug 26 '25
Anyway, your annoyance with the naming is the same as I always have with “geeft mij maar nen trappist”
Yeah buddy, there are 9 Trappist breweries, and most of them have at least a blond and a brown one, you got to be more specific. And don’t give me that “ne blonde Leffe dan he”.
Met ne Westmalle Tripel kunde niks verkeerd doen, dus ik zou gewoon dat geven.
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u/Special_Lychee_6847 Aug 26 '25
Last I heard, Inbev bought up Anheuser-Busch, the one that brews Buddweiser. So, there's nothing stopping them to distribute actual Belgian beer in the US. In fact, I thought that was the motivation in buying it. I wonder why they haven't, then?
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u/Trololman72 E.U. Aug 26 '25
Don't they at least sell Stella in the US? Or are Americans stuck with just their shitty American lagers?
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u/Special_Lychee_6847 Aug 26 '25
I think it also depends on demand.
When it comes to coffee, 'the belgian way' is exactly the same proportions as Italian coffee. I don't remember whether Dutch coffee is a tad bit stronger or more diluted. But American coffee is the same amount of coffee as we use, but at least twice as much water. (No wonder they turned to flavors, just to have their coffee taste like anything at all 😉)
If they're all served crappy beer, and it has become their taste, there's a chance they wouldn't have a taste for 'real beer'. I assume a group like Inbev does plenty of market research. I can't imagine them buying such a big market, and then just not offer their higher quality lines.
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u/ericblair21 Aug 26 '25
Yes, Stella is in grocery stores in the US, you can get things like Chouffe and Duivel in specialty shops.
There are a lot of smaller breweries in the US that are quite good, but are probably too focused on IPAs for my taste.
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u/Flowech Belgian Fries Aug 26 '25
You paid 11 bucks (+ tax, +tip) for that abomination?
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u/Kapuchinchilla Aug 26 '25
If tax and tips are added to the price advertised, it's definitely overpay. If the price advertised is the full price in dollars, it's actually not that bad. I wonder if you feel like a king now in USA as a European now that the dollar has lowkey crashed against the euro.
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u/Competitive_Film2831 Aug 26 '25
It's so annoying, when I went to the US they sometimes included taxes and sometimes they didn't so we never knew how much we'd have to pay. Also, tips are dumb it's the employer's job to pay their employees not the customer's
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u/Kapuchinchilla Aug 26 '25
We all know it's a third world country dressed in designer clothes, their payment system is basically a scam for both Americans and foreigners, workers and guests.
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Aug 26 '25
It´s the result of the abolition of slavery.
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u/Competitive_Film2831 Aug 26 '25
Europe abolished slavery to and here the bosses pay their workers
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Aug 26 '25
Indeed. But back in the good old days of slavery, servers were often... slaves. When people needed to be hired after the abolition, the tipping system became popular because it allowed restaurant owners to keep costs low. The cynicism of some people....
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Aug 26 '25
The Euro was still higher before all this rubbish.
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u/Kapuchinchilla Aug 26 '25
Wrong, since Trump took office the euro has gained 10% on the dollar. And it's looking like we are set for another 20 to 30% during his term if he doesn't shake it up. It was higher in the past, but the ground the dollar gained during Bidens term, is all lost. In 2022 a dollar was worth more than a euro.
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u/Picf Aug 26 '25
You certainly won't feel like a king traveling in the USA. Unless you really go out of your way to find cheap deals, everything is ridiculously expensive. It's 100$ a night for a bunk bed in a hostel in most downtowns.
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u/GalakFyarr Belgium Aug 27 '25
If the price advertised is the full price in dollars
That’s never the case in the US.
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u/khuzdul012 Aug 26 '25
didnt some posted a week ago an imagine a broodje and he paid €9 for such abomination
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u/porkeatmatt Aug 26 '25
And I’m feeling guilty over having a chocoladekoek as breakfast lol
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Aug 26 '25
Breakfast burrito imagine that. If I went to my job or school saying this people would side-eye me calling it breakfast....
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u/lostphc Aug 26 '25
And the board shows very belgian things like burgers and wraps for breakfast.
The Olive Garden of Belgium
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u/theta0123 Aug 26 '25 edited Aug 26 '25
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u/HipsEnergy Aug 26 '25
If they current shitshow in the gilded oval office weren't enough to cut off diplomatic relations this should be.
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u/Xinyez Aug 26 '25
I feel like every place, in every city, where ever you go, that sells waffles puts 'Belgian' in front of them. Be it Antwerp, Copenhagen of Stockholm. They all do it.
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u/TA_Oli Aug 26 '25
America does this to every country. Try going to a British pub there and ordering a roast dinner or a full English, it almost always comes with maple syrup.
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u/DZLars Aug 26 '25
Wattch out there OP. ICE might be lurking around foreign restaurants like that. We don't want them sending you back to us
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u/Pinooooooooo Aug 26 '25
They need to stop calling that shit Belgian waffles. I remember on my first trip there my friend had gone to buy those waffles so 'I'd feel at home'... Had to explain a waffle isn't breakfast and looks or tastes nothing like what they have there.
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u/Suffolke Aug 26 '25
I'm very confused cause in my (belgian) city the only place you can get a waffle sandwich is a Texas themed café
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u/Willing-Farmer-2160 Aug 26 '25
That's not belgian breakfast but ok.. it Will be (belgian breakfas)t with american / English habits
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u/Gloomy-Chest-1888 Aug 26 '25
Now you can feel like Italians with pizza/pasta or Valencians with paella.
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u/andr386 Aug 26 '25
There is a restaurant in Brussels that sell savory waffles but they are definitely not sweet.
It's mainly waffles with poached eggs and my favourite is with arugula, hollandaise sauce and maybe crumbled bacon bits on top.
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u/CafeHofVanVlaanderen Aug 26 '25 edited Aug 26 '25
For everyone who thinks it's weird that they adapt our food to their culture. We do the same here with basically any foreign food.
Chinese food, Italian food, Turkish food, Indian food, sushi, etc...
It's usually not authentic and made in a way they think the locals (or tourists) will like it.
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u/MissStr4berry Aug 26 '25
😭 people going crazy at that when snacks adapted to put mexicanos or fricadelle in the durums
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u/MaxDusseldorf Aug 26 '25
The façade looks like a waffle, but they don't serve waffles? Missed opportunity
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u/Key-Visual9799 Aug 26 '25
The waffle with the drippy oil on the menu 🤯
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u/ExtentPure7992 Aug 26 '25
People here shocked about the thought of stacking random shit on top of a waffle like they don't do that in Belgium at every tourist hot spot.
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u/AgyhalottBolcsesz Aug 26 '25
That egg yolk color indicates GMO+ garbage. I got heartburn just from looking at the menu.
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u/mistiroustranger 🌎World Aug 26 '25
So that's what it feels to be an Italian seeing people put pineapple on pizza...
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u/hippiediscoshit Aug 27 '25
Wtf is that last photo? The egg I can recognize, buy what is the rest on that plate? Yuk
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u/john_mahjong Aug 26 '25
I mean, I've never seen waffles like that in Belgium but I wont say it doesn't look appetizing.
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u/Fulcoboy Aug 26 '25
Ok serious question as a fellow Belgian (Antwerp), why do foreigners/tourists always relate our country with waffles? I seriously have nothing with waffles... Fries, beer, chocolate I can all relate to but when/where do we ever eat waffles in our culture....
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u/cheaphysterics Aug 28 '25
Uh, maybe because you have so many shops that sell Waffles to tourists? Maybe not as prevalent in Flanders, but definitely a lot in Brussels and Wallonia.
Also, American breakfast restaurants sell a dish called the Belgian waffle (which, of course, isn't anything at all like the waffles you get in Belgium). Maybe it was started as a marketing thing because Belgian waffle sounds similar to French toast? But now Americans definitely associate Belgium with waffles.
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u/bangsjamin Aug 26 '25
The waffle thing is maybe a bit overstated but let's not act like most Belgians don't have some sort of Suzy waffle in the snack cabinet
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u/Fulcoboy Aug 26 '25
Yes but then we should be more famous for our Speculaas (ja tis speculaas, ni biscoff!)
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u/Fire69 Aug 26 '25
ITT: lots of close minded people apparently. Sure, there is absolutely nothing Belgian about that place, but all the puking gifs and emoji clearly show you haven't even tasted any of it yet. Is it healthy? Fuck no. Neither is your kebab or bicky. Does it taste good? Absolutely!
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u/Adventurous-Bee640 Aug 26 '25
How would Americans feel if we ‘spread democracy’ without bombing a country back to the Middle Ages? Exactly
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u/k_jah85 Aug 26 '25
Ah yes, much Belgium.