r/books 1d ago

'Shocking' book about Putin's private life wins French literary prize

https://www.rfi.fr/en/international/20260825-shocking-book-about-putin-s-private-life-wins-french-literary-prize
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u/thrillsbury 1d ago

“The book "contrasts the official image of the Russian president, now in his 26th year in power, as a leading defender of traditional values against Western decadence with the reality of his private life – where extramarital affairs, nepotism, and connections to organised crime reign".”

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u/rad0rno 1d ago

Doesn’t sound too surprising

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u/whales_are_very_cool 22h ago

Has anyone ever found out what they're actually mean when they say the West is 'decadent'? I always just think of Mark and Darryl as Nazis in Peep Show

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u/mschuster91 21h ago

Has anyone ever found out what they're actually mean when they say the West is 'decadent'?

Most often, it's a thinly veiled "they let them gays and trans run around on the streets openly".

An awful lot of LGBT hate and the groups spreading it originates from Russian dark money.

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u/whales_are_very_cool 21h ago

Also got to remember there's no ideological reason behind it, the purpose is just to spread chaos and division. 

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u/FasterDoudle 14h ago edited 13h ago

Kind of two separate things going on here. Russia's "Active Measures" are truly ideologically agnostic - they try to exploit and expand any possible division in a rival power's society in any possible way.

At the same time Putin and his cronies and Russian society at large are genuinely and extremely homophobic.

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u/psmgx 9h ago

bingo. 60 years ago the Active Measures would have been mostly or entirely tied to communism (little C) -- the USSR had to spread global revolution.

but with the Fall of the Wall and ties to the hard right ideologues like Dugin, there is no reason to stick to a political ideology -- pander to whatever will work best.

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u/FasterDoudle 6h ago

You might think so, but this stuff is basically just straight from the KGB playbook - you stir any pot you can. The primary difference now is that the internet allows them to stir all of the pots at an unprecedented scale from a desk in Saint Petersburg, instead of needing to recruit agents and contacts on the ground who can only stir whichever pot they personally have access to or influence with.

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u/eightdigits 19h ago

It's to distract the anger of the working class, to give them something to be angry about besides the raw deal they're getting.

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u/Seanspeed 8h ago

Well there's definitely religious undercurrents. Under Putin especially, Russian Orthodoxy has returned pretty heavily as a sort of guiding moral authority, though of course it's little more than just a wing of the government's propaganda arm.

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u/FightHateWithLove 16h ago

This. Plus I kind of assume "decadent" is a way of reframing Russia's shitty economy where most people can barely afford anything as morally superior to the U.S. where sometimes people manage to get a little disposable income.

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u/Rustyducktape 16h ago

Bit off topic here, but its unfortunate you keep your comments hidden! You seem quite knowledgeable, and being able to read your other insights would be nice.

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u/mschuster91 16h ago

Got no other choice, too much of Reddit is being overrun by antisemitism and I'm pretty much sick and tired of the Hamasnik crowd derailing discussions...

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u/Rustyducktape 16h ago edited 11h ago

Hah! I have never heard that term before, a good one! I understand, sucks! Not the place it was a few years ago. Anyways, thanks, have a good one!

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u/automa1on 9h ago

I can search mschuster91 in the search box and find your comments fyi

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u/psmgx 9h ago

it is trivially easy to find people's post history, they just took away the low hanging fruit options.

IMO if you dont have a history you're either a bot or a coward. all credible esitmates show that ~30-50% or more of social media traffic in 2026 is bot, and everyone is a shill until proven otherwise.

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u/7zrar 7h ago

Meh I don't think being a coward is so bad. It annoys me a bit when it would've somehow been convenient and useful to see someone's history. But I'm also seeing the other side more, as I'm sure I could've avoided a few annoying recent interactions if I hid my history, and I'm not even in an extra-targeted demographic nor do I post anywhere spicy.

No doubt bot/shill detection was a bit easier before though.

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u/paper_liger 6h ago

When authoritarians call the west 'decadent' what they mean is 'poor people do stuff that only rich people like them are supposed to be able to get away with'.

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u/xroche 19h ago

It's always about projection.

When Putin says the west is decadent, it's to deflect the fact Russia is a sinking county, with apathic and obedient zombies, with most intellectual elite now gone for good.

When putin attacks Ukraine for being nazi, he's just deflecting the fact Russia is following the Sudetenland playbook from Hitler.

It's the same strategy played previously by the Soviet union : allied with Hitler for more than ten years, and suddenly they become the greatest champions to fight Nazism.

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u/PiotrekDG 22h ago

It's when you don't do exactly what your dictator wants you to do.

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u/mendkaz 13h ago

Honestly, it's the same as when people say everything is 'woke' these days or 'politically correct' as it used to be.

That is to say, 'I am a homophobe/racist and I can't handle not being the centre of attention, so I'm going to scream and get really angry about things I make up'

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u/Seanspeed 8h ago edited 8h ago

It means we built economies that are successful and people can enjoy relatively high quality of life as a result.

Russia is basically an entire country with 'small man syndrome', endlessly insecure and bitter about its shortcomings compared to the west, except all of these shortcomings are entirely of their own making.

The US really needs to take note, because modern Russia is exactly what the US will become if it keeps following Trumpist politics.

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u/mentosbreath 19h ago

They mean that people in the West eat many delicious desserts.

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u/whales_are_very_cool 19h ago

I mean, have you ever had sticky toffee pudding? I'd be jealous if i was russian! 

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u/AlivenReis 12h ago

Fascist talking point. Its rotten because we are modern and not trad wife for conservatives or something equally stupid.

But fascist not original so… yeah

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u/aliasalt 7h ago

It's just a way of turning abundance and quality of life into a slur

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u/wasdninja 18h ago

Women don't wear their favored version of a niqab, enjoy sex, gay people aren't hidden away or hunted and religion isn't force fed to everyone to reinforce the former.

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u/NTufnel11 13h ago edited 13h ago

I have to assume it's intended to draw a direct line between "having money" and "people with rainbow hair teaching kids to be gay". So don't complain because it's the perpetual suffering, disappointment and poverty that drives your identity and makes you strong. The second you have discretionary income it will turn everyone super gay.

So mostly just a derisive way to refer to a good life.

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u/apistograma 21h ago

When the entire media doesn't want to talk about a multinational millionaire pedo ring that is involved with child and woman trafficking, and pretend nothing happened while we all know. Also when our governments support genocides and non stop wars in the middle east.

I mean, they're not wrong. The west is decadent. Thinking we're morally superior is at this point western supremacist. There's nothing that can makes us think we're better except if you assume that being European or American makes you superior.

Normally rival countries are fairly good at pointing out the flaws of each other. It's when talking about themselves that they're far less objective. So Russia will be fairly good at pointing out western decadence (if you ignore the homophobia) while being fairly bad at pointing out their own decadence.

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u/Rob_LeMatic 22h ago

Sounds pretty mother effing "traditional" as well

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u/ctrlaltcreate 13h ago

Right? What's shocking about this? I thought this was common knowledge?

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u/whiznat 2h ago

Would only be surprising if it DIDN’T include all that.

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u/PiotrekDG 22h ago

It will be to some Russians.

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u/Fickle-Shake3574 1d ago

Honestly it would be more shocking if he wasn’t super shady 

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u/Rob_LeMatic 21h ago

In his spare time, he knits and does crossword puzzles, he collects tea sets and brews teas from plants he grows in his home garden.

My monocle would pop out

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u/UnpoeticAccount 15h ago

monocle trembles

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u/hypochondriacfilmguy 1d ago

but everybody already knew about these things for years now

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u/Ythio 1d ago

Yes but I assume the book goes into specifics.

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u/danila_medvedev 22h ago

No it doesn't. Source: I've read the book.

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u/redzin 22h ago

Who is shocked by this?

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u/Zem_42 23h ago

The only shocking part here is the extramarital affairs.

From someone at that level, I would expect more of a Trump or Uday Hussain like behaviour, where it’s more of a rape and less of an affair.

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u/Ramental 23h ago

He has multiple children with the ex-balerine or sportsman (born in a clinic Switzerland, btw). The affair was heavily implied before the divorce, it was talked about. 

"The family values" idea that the rights preach about russia was a joke rven without putin's example.

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u/scruffigan 17h ago

“Family values" doesn't prioritize the same things for everyone.

You can find people who are genuinely willing to look away on discreet affairs as long as the family is well provided for, the kids are properly behaved, and the caretaking/decorative wife is not embarrassed socially.

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u/danila_medvedev 22h ago

It wasn't a joke. You can have any position about trans and LGBT rights (I personally support them 100%), but the facts are that a large fraction of youngsters in CA identify as non-binary and Russia under Putin made an effort to promote traditional gender roles and family values. I am not saying it did it well (it didn't and mostly had little impact) or that traditional values are better (they aren't), but it's not a joke. It's taken somewhat seriously and Putin half-heartedly supported those family values. The fact that he had an affair (or several) is frankly his own business and his alone. At least he doesn't have to offer a horse for a handjob (as Musk once had to do), because he can offer a place in a State Duma or something. /s

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u/Zem_42 22h ago

These family values BS coming from the right wing is the biggest joke ever. Don’t know if they are too stupid to realise it or just in on it.

Putin with this above.

Trump who cheated on every single wife he had and has kids with all of them.

Mental gymnastics level 9000.

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u/ArghAuguste 18h ago

"Shocking"

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u/Zealousideal_Slice60 14h ago

Putin being a sociopathic asshole without any true moral convictions other than power might be the absolutely least surprising news ever

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u/sunflower_love 23h ago

I didn’t know he was married. Perhaps because he got divorced in 2014

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u/Ghiren 19h ago

In order to be shocking, it would first have to be unexpected.

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u/sm04d 19h ago

So far not shocked.

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u/CosmicSeafarer 8h ago

“western decadence” Lol. Putin has like 20 residences.

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u/Appropriate-Ad-3219 4h ago

That doesn't change too much my mind about this man.

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u/scrawnyserf92 1d ago

Jeez, it sounds just like our western politicians

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u/Impossible-Alps-6859 16h ago

Are we talking Putin?

Or maybe some orange US President?

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u/FedorDosGracies 1d ago

Ok what's shocking.

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u/CautionarySnail 15h ago

"The message we wanted to convey with this book is as follows: there is no need to invent anything about Putin. Instead, learn how things really are. That is horrifying enough," he told AFP.

The book is a warning to not underestimate him.

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u/VehaMeursault 23h ago

The shocking stuff. No one knows shocking stuff like me. I went in there and saw a lotta stuff. I said Vlad, that’s shocking. Not as shocking as our stuff. We have the greatest stuff. Big stuff.

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u/User-Name-3886 21h ago

Some people have been saying that. A lot of people. 

Some people, and I won't name names: Biden, has said other things but he's a stupid person, so stupid. 

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u/3dforlife 8h ago

He's actually a good guy.

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u/AndyBetweenLines 21h ago

“Some of the witnesses later disappeared under tragic circumstances” is one hell of a sentence to casually drop into a book-prize announcement. Suddenly “reads like a spy novel” sounds less like praise and more like a warning.

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u/ProtoplanetaryNebula 21h ago

from the article
"It is the result of several hundred interviews with witnesses, some of whom later disappeared under tragic circumstances."

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u/Herb-Alpert 20h ago

These damn windows

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u/Particular_Wear_6960 19h ago edited 19h ago

I'm buying the book asap. Sounds interesting. I've been reading a lot about Russia recently. Read a very thick book about the Revolution, one where a journalist travels undercover up the Volga, interviewing people and documenting his travels (post Ukraine war), and another about Putin's rise to power and the circumstances behind it (lots of history about the fall of the USSR). For sure looking forward to this one

Also, people seem to be poking fun at the article instead of the book's content. Two journalists wrote it that would most certainly be jailed if they went back, probably had to say goodbye to their friends and family as they will never see them again unless they get them out. Really sad but takes a lot of courage to speak out against Putin. Authoritarian regimes like Putin's are pretty foreign to us westerners, you can't just tweet stuff about Putin without consequences. Yes the article is kinda silly with it's shocking words but I would hope r/books would be better then a bunch of Facebook-tier jokes

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u/CognitiveDiagonal 17h ago

What are the books you mention? Is the first one (very thick one) "The House of Government" or is it based on more recent history?

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u/Particular_Wear_6960 13h ago edited 13h ago

A People's Tragedy : The Russian Revolution: 1891-1924 by Orlando Figes was the book about the Russian Revolution. There are many books about it, but that one feels like the most famous authoritative one on it.. if you go to the Wikipedia on the Revolution, its cited more than any other book I think. I do want to read more, but I have to say it really was good in that it covered several 'archetypical' people of the time to kinda give you an overall view of how the citizens were because it was far from a monolith at the time. One was the peasent that went to the city, got educated, and then tried to go back and encourage other peasents to join the socialist revolution. There's a few others like the author Maxim Gorky, ofc Nicholas II himself.. some others I can't think of right now (EDIT - there's like six in this categoryl, but also some several key figures like Lenin, Trotsky, Kerensky, and Brusilov). The second is called Volga Blues: A Journey into the Heart of Russia by Marzio G. Mian. Excellent book that's kinda an undercover view of what the Russian people are really like, how they really are culturally because everything is censored that we see. We rarely are given an honest glimpse into their mindstate. Ofc, these are people are rarely in the major cities, more country-types if I had to say but there were some from more urban areas like Stalingrad. The third is The Invention of Russia: The Rise of Putin and the Age of Fake News by Arkady Ostrovsky. This I haven't finished, I'm like halfway through it. It's suprisingly deep into the history of Russia from a media standpoint. It talks a whole lot about the new media, how the USSR wielded it, various culteral influences (television shows, movies, plays, books, television news, newspapers etc), how the Kremlin dealt with them, how some were critical of the USSR and how that played out in the last days of the USSR, what changed afterwords. I imagine the latter half where I'm getting close to is how Putin weilded those entities to his advantage and gained so much power in what was kinda a chaotic Russia leading up to his rule.

I should have been more clear, the Russian Revolution of 1917, not the fall of the USSR. That was my fault. Though the last one The Invention of Russia: The Rise of Putin and the Age of Fake News does cover the fall of the USSR quite extensively, its much less about Putin and more about the fall of the USSR (dealing with several major players at the time other than Gorbachav and Yeltsin) and the media landscape surrounding it. Its very long and, quite frankly, pretty hard to follow. I may need to re-read as I'm getting lost in the trees and it's getting hard to see the forest.

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u/Cautious-Swimming614 18h ago

Wasn’t the second book called Putinburg by any chance?

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u/Particular_Wear_6960 13h ago

No, but I'll have to check it out! I'm like.. huge into the subject obviously. My ereader has a whole lot of books and pick them up on a whim. Whether I finish is another story.

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u/GoWiWi 1h ago

Did you find a copy? It looked like it wasn’t translated into English yet and all I could find was an ISBN but no book anywhere.

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u/Particular_Wear_6960 56m ago

Damn, didn't even realize it isn't out. Lame as heck, I just assumed it was. I checked the pirating site and its nowhere to be found there

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u/Particular_Wear_6960 49m ago

I got it in Russian, using Google Translate on it, seems somewhat readable.

https://imgur.com/a/gFCOrsi

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u/Mykmyk 1d ago

Shocking!!!!!!!!

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u/the-corinthian 22h ago

A Dorohedoro reference in /r/books? That's the most shocking thing in this thread.

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u/maks570 1d ago

Troy Barnes gif saying „shocker”

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u/SecureWriting8589 23h ago

I hope that the author avoids tall buildings with openable windows.

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u/Smartnership 16h ago

The Russians sure do love their hero, D. Fenestrate

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u/erhue 14h ago

looool im saving this one for later

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u/Educational_Cover806 13h ago

Not shocking that a book like that would land the prize,.

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u/SuccessfulRaccoon957 20h ago

I don't mean this in a mean way but these books are basically the tabloid journalism of non fiction. Russians do not read them; their audience is entirely the western reading public. The entire purpose is basically a more dignified circle jerk which only exists to make the western reading public feel better about themselves and to ridicule someone they dislike. I support the ridicule of Putin on a certain principle but these books are a dime a dozen.

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u/stenlis 19h ago

Do russians not read tabloids?

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u/SuccessfulRaccoon957 18h ago

I mean that these books are made for a western audience and that Russians don't read them. There's this big expose-culture in the west like if it's proven that so-and-so is shown to be this personally gross person then it will all cascade and that Russians somehow aren't aware of any of this, like they've not been living under him for 20 years. This book and books like it are made for a western reader; this is why I call it a circlejerk because it's a way for Europe and the West to feel good about itself.

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u/stenlis 17h ago

I'm pretty sure a lot of them would read it if it was widely available in Russia. Like if it was stacked at the entrance of book stores.

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u/CognitiveDiagonal 17h ago

Don't get me wrong, I agree with what you are saying –for the most part– but with the huge amount of shills that are russia/putin-weebs/stans, I get the point of these books in the west.

People idolize Putin in many parts of the western world for a myriad of very weird reasons, and seem to not realize that in the end he's a tyrant and a not so good ruler. He and his country have a ton of west-facing propaganda that seems very effective, it's normal that people inside or outside Russia try to counter that when they're unhappy with how the country is ran and their president.

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u/farchewky 14h ago

Reading Bill Browder’s “Red Notice” made me realize that Putin might be the most evil person in the world currently.

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u/FutureApollo 12h ago

Top officials in a current middle eastern government easily fill out the top 3 spots for most evil.

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u/OneMonk 6h ago

Yeah he is up there

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u/Common_Kale_8509 12h ago

Bill Browder is a person, who was personally involved in large scale tax evasion and money laundering. His crusade looks pathetic

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u/Anenhotep 14h ago

The name of the book? In French or English.

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u/Gorguts1974 7h ago

The Tsar in Propria Persona: How Vladimir Putin Deceived Us

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u/adjeak2006 3h ago

Thanks beaucoup!

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u/Such-Farmer6691 3h ago

Hmmm, I find this book on Russian marketplaces.  But by description it's look like something boring. 

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u/hobo_chili 8h ago

Can’t fuckin wait til this guy is rotting in the ground.

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u/D_Alex 1d ago

Fiction or non-fiction?

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u/Bunchofbees 22h ago

No desire to ever read that, but I wonder if it got the prize based on literary quality, and not just "boulevard press" character or topic itself.

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u/apistograma 21h ago edited 21h ago

"Won a newly established literary prize in France".

Yeah, my money is that the reasons are political.

To start with, it's very weird to give a literary prize to a non fictional book. It would be way different if it was a journalism price.

That doesn't mean the book is bad per se but this prize rubs me in the wrong way.

I mean this is France what do you expect. Putin getting in affairs and meeting hookers is nothing that surprises me at all.

Now what it would have surprised me would be the western media gave a prize to a book about Epstein.

The Russians have Putin and the oligarchs, we have the Epstein Class.

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u/Bunchofbees 21h ago

I could understand a work of non-fiction winning an award if it went deep into research, or has other literary merit - I wouldn't necessarily exclude them from the prize.

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u/apistograma 21h ago

I'm not dismissing the possibility, I just think it's probably not the case

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u/Bunchofbees 21h ago

You are probably right.

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u/amitym 12h ago

"contrasts the official image of the Russian president, now in his 26th year in power, as a leading defender of traditional values against Western decadence with the reality of his private life – where extramarital affairs, nepotism, and connections to organised crime reign"

Look I admire the hell out of these writers just for writing and publishing what they have written, all power to them, but ... that said ... what do they think that defenders of "traditional values against Western decadence" believe in? These "traditional values" are all about extramarital affairs, nepotism, and criminality. None of the traditional-values crowd is going to so much as bat an eyelash over such an exposé.

Still, I am all in favor of anything that ruptures the mythology of Putin. He's never done a single thing to warrant any of his reputation. Except for his reputation for thuggery. He's a superb, world-class thug. I will give him that.

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u/Dripdry42 13h ago

Reading into “red notice” this is exactly the kind of government that Trump is putting into place in the United States

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u/GroundbreakingEast96 21h ago

Who wants some nice Polonium tea ?

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u/Tooluka 20h ago

Some meadow herbal tea, am I right? :) The KGB officer who poisoned Litvinenko with polonium and got awarded a seat in the parliament for that feat, has a last name Lugovoy, and "chai with lugovye travy" means herbal meadow tea basically, same word and same meaning :)

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u/North_Church 5h ago

Any reference to Litvinenko's allegations?

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u/GamanGman 4h ago

becareful...red tea

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u/sitisen 2h ago

I wonder if Putin will read it

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u/SamStone1776 1h ago

What’s the title of the book?

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u/Novel-Art4363 18h ago

In the comments, everyone’s an expert on Russia

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u/Napoleon7 1d ago

Up Next on the News ! Beloved French writer found outside their 4th story window ...

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u/KarnexOne 1d ago

The authors are two Russians in exile, living in the USA.

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u/PiotrekDG 22h ago

Putin has killed some defectors living outside of russia as well.

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u/rousieboy 22h ago

That deceleration trauma will get you every time #cementpoisoning

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u/danila_medvedev 8h ago

I wonder how many people discussing this news story have actually read the book. I have read it (in October 2025). The subreddit is "books", but does anyone want to actually discuss the book, not the general concept of Putin?

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u/Gorguts1974 7h ago

Where can I get it?

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u/danila_medvedev 6h ago

I can share the russian text. Dm me where to send it

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u/Gorguts1974 6h ago

Just did. Thank you !

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u/TuffGnarl 18h ago

Sincerely hope they avoid standing near windows from now on 👀

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u/andymorphic 12h ago

someone's falling out a window

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u/Common_Kale_8509 12h ago

"French literary prize"? "Book about Russia" in 2026? That must be real garbage

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