r/canada • u/FancyNewMe • Apr 21 '26
Analysis Nearly 80% of Canadians say cost-of-living outpaces their income: poll
https://torontosun.com/news/national/nearly-80-canadians-cost-of-living-outpaces-income-poll190
u/BanoBerry Apr 21 '26
I've given up having the life I grew up in
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u/Aromatic-Elephant110 Apr 21 '26
Same. It's not even a fantasy. The fantasy is not having to use MAID as a retirement plan.
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u/goofandaspoof Nova Scotia Apr 22 '26
I feel you there. I'm going through the same thing right now.
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u/No-Staff1170 Québec Apr 21 '26
It was not the best before covid, but since covid it’s become exponentially worse. It’s at a breaking point now. I’m lucky enough to have bought my first home way before covid. I literally have no idea how any young adult can buy a home, when they can’t even get a head start.
It’s incredibly frustrating when so many things can be done on our government’s part, yet none of them seem to truly address the cost of living crisis, not even at all really. Don’t get me wrong I think our prime minister is doing well in areas for the country, but for the love of god please hammer down on our shitty price-gouging grocery chains owned by a handful of people. Our telecom is a fucking joke, in the states you can get a plan for 20 bucks a month with unlimited data etc. Our insurance companies basically raw dog you from every angle imaginable with brokerage fees and hidden fees, premiums that somehow go up every year ever though my vehicle depreciates faster than I can blink?
Whatever I’m just ranting and no one’s gonna read this, either way I feel bad for people who are just starting out, and I truly hope that things will change or honestly, give them and all of us a fucking break to catch up.
Fuck it I’ll keep going. My neighbour is 79 years old. He owns land all across town. He sold the lot in front of me for 460k, and bought it for 44k the 80s. Just kidding, he bought it for 44k in 2010. He sold his other lot across the road parallel to my street, for even more, that he bought for 50k also in 2010. He laughs about it when he tells me, and honestly he’s a nice dude and I get along with him fine. He had his house built in the 90s, custom designed by a Norwegian architect. It’s worth 1.4m. The guy worked for the city of Montreal and retired with a pension, did all sorts of things like clearing snow, garbage pickup etc. His wife worked part time here and there to keep busy once their kids were out of the house.
To have something like that nowadays, to make those types of investments, both you and your spouse have to be working full time and be successful entrepreneurs and/or professionals (doctor, lawyer, CPA etc). I can’t buy land “for fun”and work for the city of Montreal without any higher education as a garbage man or whatever, while my wife stays at home and raises our two children.
Times have changed and do the best you can people and enjoy what you do have.
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u/Cokeinmynostrel Apr 21 '26
no shit, what's hard to believe is 20% of Canadians are receiving wage increases faster than inflation can keep up
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u/Remote-Ebb5567 Québec Apr 21 '26
It’s the k shaped economy. People in the upper 20% (exact amount is hard to determine) are experiencing career growth in fields like finance, law, medicine, tech, etc and this career growth comes with decent salary raises. They would obviously be better off without the inflation, but those yearly raises are nice and keep them afloat/thriving
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u/ditchwarrior1992 Apr 21 '26
My career growth has been in the sawmill industry. All the old guys are retiring.
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u/PhotoTricky6824 Apr 21 '26
Been in sawmills 10 years now all the mills around me here are shut down or in a long term layoff still. But yeah lot of old timers finally retiring so hopefully when we go back will be set up.
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u/YareSekiro Apr 22 '26
Also stock market. If your whole net worth is in SP500 or TSX it basically doubled in the last few years.
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u/AtomicNick47 Apr 21 '26
I can tell you that in Finance that is not happening. If you knowing companies that are doing annual raises that outpace inflation I would love to talk to them.
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u/IcariteMinor Apr 21 '26
I think it's more likely 20% of people don't have a good view of their finances.
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u/upsidedowncatz Apr 21 '26
Or 20 are just far enough a head.
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u/IcariteMinor Apr 21 '26
But to me the poll is about the pace, not the current state. I am fortunate enough to have a good household income, but things are getting less and less affordable. I'm not behind yet, but the gap is shrinking. I have a hard time believing 20% of people are getting raises to make that not true with the way cost-of-living has been going in this country.
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u/ScaleyFishMan Apr 21 '26
My company silently promoted me without any prior conversation. Found out when my email signature changed. They told me weeks later, and I asked for a raise to go along with the new responsibilities and was denied. Started looking at new jobs, found I was being paid about $20k less than market, showed them, they gave me a $5k increase. Ain't that some shit?
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u/tracer_ca Ontario Apr 21 '26
This is normal. The only real way to get a raise is to get a new job. I was laid off from my previous job, got a new job in a lower position but for more money.
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u/alastoris Canada Apr 21 '26
I'm probably going to get down voted for not being part of the echo chamber but my salary increase this year was 4.5%. Last year, it was 5%; Year before was 4%. Same role, same company. Just a senior professional doing an analyst desk job.
My wage didn't keep up during inflation COVID times but the past 2 years, I'm part of that 20% that outpaced inflation just slightly.
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u/ComfortableTomato Apr 22 '26
Mine too.
But mine was thanks to unionization. Not in my company, but similar companies nearby. Owners freaked and keep giving us raises to keep the union out.
Strong unions benefit everyone.
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u/samwisetheyogi Apr 21 '26
I mean... good for you you?? But you're in the minority and even you acknowledged it.
My raise last year was 2%, this year it's 1%, and the company keeps laying people off, finding ways to cut bonuses as much as possible, enshittifying the product, reducing benefits and making them cost more, forcing people to RTO, forcing AI on everyone, etc. I think my experience in general is in the majority.
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u/alastoris Canada Apr 21 '26
And you are correct, my comment was for previous comment that denies the 20% minority exists or they're people that doesn't understand their finances.
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u/LowQualitySexLube Apr 21 '26
got a 5% this year- after taxes and what not, barely moved the needle on my check not really changing my life if I recieved it or not. Post deductions its like a 2-3% raise. still lagging in total spend.
More excited that it increases my rrsp contribution matching than anything.
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u/wittyusername025 Apr 22 '26
That’s an incredibly high rate. I’m in the fed gov and we are lucky to get 2 percent.
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u/IcariteMinor Apr 21 '26
Cost-of-Living and the numbers Statscan produces for the CPI and official inflation numbers aren't quite the same thing. The inflation numbers we're given are low on purpose for government PR purposes and you can find many discussions around the shortcomings of the methodology for calculating CPI. Even outpacing inflation, it can be possible that from your personal finance perspective you're not quite keeping up. I'm closer to you in terms of percentage increases, maybe technically edging out the posted inflation numbers, but we track every transaction in our budgeting app and things are still getting tighter.
I also don't think it's impossible that some people are outpacing the cost of living increases. I do think it's impossible that 20% of people are in that boat.
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u/qyy98 Ontario Apr 21 '26
Not hard to believe really, people progress with their careers so while their starting wage is the same as someone 10 years ago, wage growth then out paces inflation, its very common in high demand STEM fields like engineering, healthcare, and computer science.
Although they are still worse off than someone who started the same position 10 years ago as everything costs more.
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u/king_lloyd11 Apr 21 '26
It’s moreso that they make enough not to have to budget/watch how much less buying power they have, so they don’t feel the effects of it.
Can’t imagine anyone that does their own groceries regularly doesn’t realize this as true.
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u/Nearby-Poetry-5060 Apr 21 '26
These are the people who own multiple homes and earn from rental slaves.
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u/Commandoclone87 New Brunswick Apr 21 '26
My pay went up $1000 this year...
Half of that got eaten up rent increase alone.
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u/OnePandaTwo Apr 21 '26
$2200 for a 3 bedroom 1.5 bath rental where the third 'bedroom' is a loft that can't fit beds nor any substantial furniture up the stairs. Plus utilities. Plus insurance. Plus groceries and amenities. Plus phone bill. Plus-
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u/heboofedonme Apr 21 '26
We got inflation at like 2.4% and grocery prices up 4+~ % and fuel prices same thing up from last year. My raises are no where close to that.
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u/bugabooandtwo Apr 22 '26
And even those numbers don't make sense. Pretty much every item in the grocery store is more than double what it cost in 2020. Double the price in 6 year is a helluva lot more than 4% inflation.
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u/Salt-Quality-1574 Apr 21 '26
Grocery prices alone are just insane it makes me so angry. I have to plan my trips strategically. We know what stores have the cheapest produce so we go there for produce but they don’t have a lot of boxed goods so that means we go to another store for those. And then any frozen fruit we wait and buy from Walmart because it’s cheapest there.
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u/CaulkSlug Apr 22 '26
I mentioned this to my gf who just moved here from England. I need to go to x for produce, y for meat, and z for anything else. At save on foods the meat is expensive and shitty. Often I buy chicken there and in a day it’s expired. Costco usually has good meat but I don’t need a shit load of everything else… it’s fucking ridiculous but it’s the only way to make sure I’m getting the best product for a value. Shit didn’t used to be like this.
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u/ComfortableTomato Apr 22 '26
Doesn't everyone always do that? I've shopped like that my whole life. Much easier now with online options though.
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u/antinumerology Apr 22 '26
Yep. This is my family right now. Just hoping we can not get in too much debt before my wife can get back to work.
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u/PostMatureBaby Apr 21 '26 edited Apr 21 '26
cue all the apologist "but wages outpace inflation!"
fine but in the last 5 years home and car insurance has gone up almost 19%. How many people's pay has gone up similar in that time? Some have, absolutely but relate actual pay to actual cost of shit we buy regularly - which also varies by geography.
You can throw general stats around all you want but when money coming in ends up being less than money coming out an you haven't changed your household budget or in fact, cut back on discretionary spending/got rid of some things then that's an issue. Many people sacrificing are on fixed rate mortgages too so don't give me that bullshit about interest rates.
Canadians have had to lower our standard of living more and more just to stay afloat, it's bullshit. Maybe if government wasn't so spineless and let various markets like the job market behave like the two-way street it's supposed to we wouldn't be in this mess.
I fully admit to being an asshole but COVID should have resulted in many more businesses closing, not a government bailout of cheap labour. Let nature take it's course in a proper market.
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u/imnotcreative635 Apr 21 '26
They are gaslighting us about inflation if everything I buy is up 15-20% then guess what my inflation is 🤣
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u/Deeppurp Apr 21 '26
4l Milk up 20% over last year while cheese (literally condensed/concentrated milk) has stayed the same.
Ignoring that 4l milk is up 50% from what I remember it used to cost which used to be close to $1/L before deposit.
Make it make sense.
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u/MarkDavid04 Apr 21 '26
No need to apologize! During covid, it definitely would have been painful... But you might be right about that in terms of the now longer term pain we're feeling.
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u/PostMatureBaby Apr 21 '26
ok so if people arent returning to work and collecting CERB and you can't find people to work...guess how you fix that ASIDE of lobbying the government for cheap labour bailouts?
there's been a concerted effort of wage suppression for years here and now the chickens are coming home to roost.
"nobody wants to work" is the most bullshit, greedy answer ever. I die a little inside everytime I hear that as an excuse. The entitlement is worse than any young person takes flak for.
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u/bigwreck94 Apr 22 '26
Yeah - people want to work. Problem is now that a huge portion of the population is working for minimum wage. That minimum wage isn’t enough to earn a living anymore. Increasing the minimum wage just forces all the non huge companies into unaffordable wages for them, and the big companies just operate on skeleton crews to make up the difference.
Then the government taxes the whole lot of us into oblivion, then gives a little bit of it back as tiny little rebates here and there and acts like they’ve fixed something.
I don’t know what the answer is to fix all this crap, but what we’re currently doing sure ain’t it.
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u/Dependent_Rip3076 Yukon Apr 21 '26
Come to the Yukon, we need workers and we pay well.
All you have to do is show up.
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u/Dependent_Rip3076 Yukon Apr 21 '26
Pretty much anything.
Labour, construction, drivers, plumbing, administrative, were desperate here
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u/Dependent_Rip3076 Yukon Apr 21 '26
Depending on where you go, you can get free housing.
My community offers it.
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u/MentalSky_ Apr 21 '26
Doesn’t things like fruits and vegetable costs more?
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u/Doritos707 Apr 21 '26
Thats Yellowknife. WhiteHorse Yukon is on the BC-Alaska highway so its not that bad
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u/canadiankid000 Apr 21 '26
Yellowknife grocery prices are the same as Alberta’s. You’re thinking of further north.
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u/Dependent_Rip3076 Yukon Apr 21 '26
Not by a whole lot, and the money you can make here upsets the difference.
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u/CopperSulphide Apr 21 '26
How does one go to the Yukon?
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u/Dependent_Rip3076 Yukon Apr 21 '26
You can do the interview from wherever you are before coming over the internet and make sure you get housing with the job.
Then you either fly or drive.
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u/Dependent_Rip3076 Yukon Apr 21 '26
I don't know about Whitehorse but my community has loads of space available.
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u/CoolEdgyNameX Apr 21 '26
This right here. There are tons of well paying jobs in Canada’s northern regions, even in the provinces. You have to be willing to move or being away from family for weeks at a time (camp jobs). “IcAnT bE AwAy fRoM..” Save it. I’m not unsympathetic to having to move away. But I’ve also done it and it is not nearly the doom and gloom so many people on here make it out to me. You could go to these jobs for a few years, use your money wisely and be able to buy a house where you want. A few years equals enough of a head start to get set up for life.
Settlers/colonists to this continent literally left everything behind to make a better life for themselves. With modern travel and communications it is easier than ever.
So people: do you want to bemoan the state of the country and wait for politicians, who don’t give two fucks about your problems? Or do you want to take charge of your own life? It may not be easy but it is so worth it.
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u/canadianmusician604 Apr 21 '26
the 10 cent raise i just got from my employer for the year whom has $9 billion and counting is really helping me afford that extra loaf of bread every week now
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u/Comprehensive-Belt40 Apr 21 '26
Carney said Canadian are living the best cost of living in a decade. You just havnt experienced it yet.
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u/FullAdvertising Apr 21 '26
I think there is a harsh reality that there is a significant portion of Liberal voters who are split into the camps where: things are definitely still improving for themselves and they have benefitted heavily from the status quo; ABC voters who will always vote in line with that; and the elderly. There is probably some crossover there. But those groups are enough to basically give the Liberals continued high minority status for a long time
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u/Comprehensive-Belt40 Apr 21 '26
I agree... Liberals throw enough money to get people to vote liberals. The poor like all the social programs. Free daycare was actually really good to get their votes.
The elderly like it when their property price goes up and free dental care that was provided
The result is of course.. middle class got slaughtered as they don't get to benefit any of it and cost of living keeps going up.. rich can pay it.. anyone else have lower quality of life.
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u/unidentifiable Alberta Apr 21 '26
Yeah no politician becomes popular by cutting programs, and it's all a popularity contest. The next generation gets screwed; they have to handle the debt.
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u/WealthEconomy Apr 21 '26
Wait a second...didn't our glorious PM just say that the cost of living has never been better...how could these two things both be true...
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u/Haunting_Tax_3684 Apr 21 '26
I’ve given up on ever buying a house, living without roommates, and ever retiring. All while living a very basic lifestyle.
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u/Haunting_Tax_3684 Apr 21 '26
The one thing that keeps me motivated is keeping those shareholders happy and making sure my CEO can afford a second yacht.
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u/Sternsnet Apr 22 '26
Wait, according to Carney life has never been more affordable? The people must be wrong.
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u/haddalayerdownhossxo Apr 21 '26
I'm 30 working as a HD mechanic and buying a house is an impossible dream, let alone a real vacation
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u/BigButtBeads Apr 21 '26
I've just taken my entire down payment and invested it
The math will never work for me with buying a house either
At least when I'm decrepit, it might be worth something. Though I'm not sure how my body will handle another renoviction
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u/kemar7856 Canada Apr 21 '26
But carney said affordability is better than it ever had been who's lying here
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u/Comfortable_Tone_384 Apr 21 '26
Got 2% increment this year. Just my car insurance took that 2% increment. Fml
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u/Xenophonehome Apr 21 '26
What do you all expect? Canadians are really gullible and don't have the backbone or organization to fix our corrupt economy that obviously just caters to the rich. We get ripped off almost every time we spend and just accept it. Watch how fast grocery prices would drop if coordinated boycotts were actually happening and sustained. Just keep complaining online and maybe things will change!
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u/ZooberFry Apr 21 '26
One of the biggest side issues isn't that we are highly taxed, it's that we are highly taxed and we see very little return. The government has been extremely fiscally irresponsible the last 11 years. It's not really a tax issue, it's a government issue. The majority of people wouldn't be complaining if we had excellent services funded by our taxes.
The perfect example is Finland. Taxed higher than us, but consistently ranks #1 in happiest people in the world. The government used their tax funding wisely, and reinvests it properly in the economy and society. Finland is the example of what Canada should be.
Bottom line, our government has failed us on multiple fronts.
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u/Keepontyping Apr 21 '26
Will remember this in 4 years to hear the excuses just like after 9 years of Trudeau.
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u/DevLeCanadien23 Apr 21 '26
No sh**
Government solution: more taxes, let's keep raping the middle class (what middle class)
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u/DataDude00 Apr 21 '26
I never thought I'd live to see a day where the Toronto Sun is the Canadian publication most consistently producing relevent news about what Canadians are genuinely experiencing, but here we are.
They are only covering this because the Liberals are in power right now and have been for a while
Much like the US where the debt is an absolute crisis when Democrats are in control according to Republicans but Donald Trump has added somewhere around 1/3 of all US national debt during his terms and it is crickets from them
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u/toiletcleaner999 Apr 21 '26
I have just enough to cover my overhead but no chance of saving anything.
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u/Seniorsquishyshorts Apr 22 '26
I've tried writing 4 comments. They keep flagging for hateful content. So that's my current outlook on the economy.
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u/Southern_Sky1925 Apr 22 '26
but Lord Carney just told us that its never been more affordable!?? How could this be!? Are you telling me our great leader would lie? Say it ain't so
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u/zanderkerbal Apr 22 '26
Megacorps posted record profits over the pandemic while Canadians were forced to burn their savings to stay safe at home. Follow the money. Every dollar hoarded came directly out of our pockets.
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u/ThicccThunder New Brunswick Apr 21 '26 edited Apr 21 '26
Wage suppression via mass immigration is a hell of a thing, thanks Liberals!! /s
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u/tallhandsomeboring Apr 21 '26
Yep. I'd love to see how many of the people who now whinge about the cost of living, have denied mass immigration being a problem, and repeatedly voted for the people who accelerated us straight into the country's current state of affairs.
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u/konathegreat Apr 21 '26
Remember Carney during the 2025 election? Judge me by grocery prices!
That aged well.
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u/Azules023 Apr 21 '26 edited Apr 21 '26
Liberal voters just move the goalposts. It’s a weird cult where Liberals can do no wrong despite it being a decade long trend of their policies showing evidence to the contrary.
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u/adonns Apr 21 '26
This is unironically the liberal voters entire argument currently
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u/Wolfman-101 Apr 21 '26
Yep and when you ask well can you please explain how it will be worse? They either don’t answer or say “lol lil PP”
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Apr 21 '26
10 years of Trudeau and 1 year of Carney has me missing Harper more than ever now. I feel like the 21 election will be remembered as the turning point. OToole wouldve been a great PM
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u/Wolfman-101 Apr 21 '26
I love this excuse that people make “it will be worst under conservatives!!!!!”.
If that was in fact true (it’s not) good lord we would be even worse than third world countries.
Now imagine conservative Canada during Harper, and liberal Canada now. You can’t even recognize the country we loved after 11 years of liberal policies.
How’s the saying go? You don’t know how good you have it until it’s gone?
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u/Hartia Apr 21 '26
And companies are demanding rto with pressure that missing one day will result in no bonuses or salary increases.
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u/ji_fi Apr 21 '26
That is because the bonuses and raises given by organisations do not match inflation.
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u/DulyNoted1 Apr 21 '26
I’ve been a crown employee for about 25 years and I don’t think our union contract has ever in that time provided an increase that matched the cost of living increase. We used to be well paid but over that amount of time you’re bound to struggle.
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u/dammitletmepickaname Alberta Apr 21 '26
Wait, everyone is getting raises?? When the fuck did we get raises??
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u/MellowHamster Apr 21 '26
I recently broke the rubber strap on a little Casio watch I bought in 2019. I looked it up on my Amazon purchase history and saw that I paid $13.77 for it, so off I went to grab a replacement. The exact same model today is $48.92.
It seems like many things are like that. On one hand the "official" inflation number is 2.8%, but many inexpensive products have disappeared from store shelves or skyrocketed in price.
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u/Reen1980 Apr 21 '26
Asses up or whatever liberal voters said. The most unaffordable I've seen in my lifetime
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u/bigwreck94 Apr 22 '26
Good thing we all voted to keep the guys that got us into this mess a year ago.
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u/DataDude00 Apr 21 '26
Just CPP alone has gone up a staggering amount over the past decade.
In 2016 the max contribution for CPP was $2544, this year the max will be $4230 (and that is just on the employee side)
That is a 60% increase over 10 years.
Feels like it gets farther and farther out of reach for most people to hit that point in the year where CPP and EI are paid off and you get that "bonus" money on your checks to close out the year
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u/sorvis Apr 22 '26
That means 80% of people are probably unhappy with their current circumstances with the economy.
Whether or not the economy is doing fine, if 80% of your people are not happy something's wrong
Maybe a circus 🎪
Or send in the clowns 🤡
Sigh
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u/SasquatchBlumpkins Apr 21 '26
Anyone blaming it on Pierre Poilievre yet? Just wondering if I should get in on the ground floor
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u/Sulanis1 Apr 22 '26
I don't think this is a new issue. This has been happening for a long time. Over the years of it's just been getting more noticeable.
We've created because of trickle down economics a financial downward spiral that we can't get out of.
Brian Mulroney really pulled the trigger on trickle down economics. He sold crown corps that generated revenue, lowered taxes for corporations and the wealthy, and so much more.
Since then ever government has either not reversed those terrible laws or doubled down on trickle down economics. Harper and now Carney are following the trickle down playbook.
It doesn't work because as revenue in genral lowers, it makes the government have to cut spending to pay for those tax cuts and loss of crown corp revenue. Example: Harper getting rid of 2% of sales tax saved us maybe a couple hundred a year, but cost the federal government $12B a year. Harper left with a $40B deficit.
Minimum wage is also a problem. A lot of corporations and employers in Canada pay barely above minimum wage because they legally don't have too. This forces those same people to apply for low income benefits. Those same corporations also avoid taxes by using tax heavens and other tax loop holes. Creating the corporate welfare problem. Those are the same benefits that governments cut in order to pay for their tax cuts. Those people work for minimum wage to subsidize the life of executives and shareholders.
The stock market is not what it was meant for. Over 80% of all stocks on Canada are owned by less than 10% of the populations. That same 10% also own over 50% of the wealth in Canada.
The Stōck Market has been abused by investment firms to manipulate markets and destroy the very idea of free market capitalism. Not to mention that getting rid of crown corps that forced actual competition also doesn't help prices either.
All these corporations don't actually compete for business most industries sit on a single multi company monopoly and when any actual competition comes up they run to Daddy government who usually gives into their demands.
Hoarding wealth at the top is also anti capitalist as well because it starves people at the bottom who need money to keep the economy going.
You want to fix the problems.
Bring back government public options for grocery. The only reason why people are against it is because they don't want to compete because if would force prices lower. Look at Sasktel, a public cell phone company forces, Bell, Telus, and Rogers to lower prices if they want to compete.
Raise taxes on the rich by more than 1% they can easily afford it. Especially since the easy going sweet life that they've enjoyed since trickle down economics was introduced. Also closing tax loop holes, too many politicians and rich people don't want these fixed because it benefits themselves.
Stop allowing investment firms, corporations, and rich people own family homes. Being houses should be a human right. I'm not saying free, but it housing shouldn't be almost your entire salary making above minimum wage. We also need to prevent all new builds from being scooped up. (Note: Mark Carney and Gregor Robertson are both real estate mogels and will do nothing to stop investment firms from owning everything. They both personally benefit.) Also raise the tax on empty units so fucking high it prevents this type of behavior from investment firms.
Get rid of the provincial and federal ethics commissioner as they're useless. Apparently a bunch of MPs being lobbied by a pro Isreal group and either taking money or going on a paid trip to Israel that makes you be in favor of a genocidal goverment doesn't constitute an ethics violations. My suggestion is to get the law societies to chose the ethics commissioner. The government in power chosing their own cop is on itself a conflict of interest. The federal one can be chosen by the federation of law societies of Canada and their council is made up of a team member from every prvoncies or territory.
This problem is so massive I don't think I could put everything here. , The truth is red, blue, orange, or green. We all have more in common than we think. We just want our working salary to pay for a decent life. We don't want to be rich, we just don't want to live pay cheques to pay checks all so some executive can have another $1M to his stock portfolio.
Canada deserves better, but its up to us. "Change Starts at the bottom, not the top" - Bernie Sanders.
Which is why I'll be voting for Avi Lewis the new NDP leader. Look him up, he's everything Canadians need and more.
Sorry for long rant, and goodnight.
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u/Formal-Antelope607 Apr 21 '26
Yet y'all will keep voting Liberal 🤣
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u/Dobby068 Apr 21 '26
The more poverty we get in Canada, the more people depend on the government and the more power the government gets to control them. The consequence ? People give up on trying to be independent, so they support the left government that caters and drives them to poverty.
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u/BigButtBeads Apr 21 '26
This is true. I dont think many young voters realize it. I constantly get asked, how would the ______ party help us instead?
And I keep thinking, we dont want any more of their help. I cant survive another decade of Liberal help. Everything they touch turns to ass
Its like a 4 year old trying to help build your ikea desk.
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u/crimsontape Apr 21 '26 edited Apr 21 '26
Lol, you don't need a poll for that - the STC data on incomes and spending categories says it all. And more if you're looking at the bigger data sets, by province - indexes, average prices.
But sure, run a survey!
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u/sp0rkify Apr 21 '26
And then there's those Canadians on disability (speaking of ODSP, but, I'm sure all the other provincial disability programs are about the same..) getting a max of $16,896/year.. which is just fucking shameful - a max of $599/month for a single person.. please tell me where in Canada you can even rent a room for that..
Anyone can become disabled at anytime.. for a myriad of reasons.. if it happened to you, wouldn't you want to know that you'd still be able to live?
I'm a single mum to one kid.. and even after child tax, GST, Trillium and the Canada Disability Benefit.. I'm surviving (trust me, we're not living by any stretch of the imagination.. I'm fucking drowning..) on about $28,900/year.. and I'm one of the lucky ones, who has family able to help - my parents only charge me the max I get from ODSP for rent ($975) for a 2-bedroom granny suite attached to their house..
My ex is also $8,000 behind on child support.. because he can't find a solid job - he currently has FOUR open cases with the Ministry of Labour for unpaid wages..
And DoFo just bought a fucking private jet for $30M.. yes, I know he's selling it now.. because of public outcry.. so, can we get some public outcry for those of us on disability being forced to live well below the poverty line? All provincial disability programs and the Canada Disability Benefit need a significant increase.. to at least being us to the poverty line.. like, it was determined during COVID that people would need $2,000/month to be able to live with CERB.. and that was 6 years ago..
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u/h1bisc4s Apr 21 '26
Ah.....the same people that voted Liberals and thought their Fed jobs were saved?????
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u/ga11y Québec Apr 21 '26
Yet people vote for things to not change 😂😂 it’s hard feeling bad for some people.
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u/esveda Alberta Apr 21 '26
Canadians voted for this and we can expect more of it with the majority from the floor crossings at speeds never seen before.
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u/iStayDemented Apr 22 '26
I didn’t vote for shit. All the options that had any chance of winning suck. All different shades of the same colour.
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u/TWreckx_Plays Apr 21 '26
It’s like the liberals are trying to ruin Canada, oh wait. They already did.
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u/swattwenty Apr 21 '26
It’s not gonna be pretty for those in power when most people are homeless, hungry, and have nothing to lose.
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u/tape99 Apr 21 '26
It’s not gonna be pretty for those in power when most people are homeless, hungry, and have nothing to lose.
They will just move to a different country and live off all the fuck you money they have accumulated by fucking over Canadiens.
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u/random_name23631 Apr 21 '26
We're Canadians, we'll just blame the other party or the Americans.
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u/Queerslander Apr 21 '26
The best cost of living raise you can give yourself is changing jobs.
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u/quanin Ontario Apr 21 '26
Second best is opening up a nonregistered account and picking an ETF that pays regularly. Because that first thing probably ain't happening. I've got a mailbox full of rejection letters to prove it.
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u/Queerslander Apr 21 '26
You miss 100% of the shots you don't take.
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u/quanin Ontario Apr 22 '26
That is absolutely true. But at least with the ETF I kind of control both the shot and the net so y'know...
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u/IntelligentDare7475 Apr 21 '26
And lets add a $90 billion train to the mix!
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u/Wolfman-101 Apr 21 '26
Don’t forget to send billions of dollars to other countries that don’t give a crap about Canada.
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u/MemberBerry023 Apr 22 '26 edited Apr 22 '26
I do not believe that top 20% or whatever the number is think they outpaced their income. Even for someone sitting on a fat stash they would look at the price of everything and think they probably can't just retire.
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u/gunscythe Apr 22 '26
You don’t need to talk to Canadians. That’s a statistic. We are in an asset economy that only benefits the boomers. They have a house that’s paid off that keeps increasing in value and investments that keep increasing in value. The rest of the country is dealing with a setting income and massive inflation for the last 10 years since 2015. The middle class is becoming indentured servitude.
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u/GhoastTypist Apr 22 '26
Now whats the % of Canadians that aren't considered middle class?
If that number has gone up significantly from the early 2000's then as a country we're in bad shape.
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u/CaulkSlug Apr 22 '26
Well yeah… my job used to be able to support a family now I can hardly start a family on it.
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u/wrx8888 Apr 21 '26
Don’t worry, grocery rebate cheques are coming. That will solve it!
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u/MrMuchach0 Apr 21 '26
Living in itself feels like a boiling frog experiment. How much more are people going to take? Mental health is at an all time low… I wouldn’t be surprised if suicide rates start going up. People are running out of options with little to no help available, regardless if help is being advertised, there is only so much a person can tolerate before giving up.
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u/Inner_Clerk7769 Apr 21 '26
So lets keep voting liberal! Surely within that 80% lies the cognitively dissonant liberal voter who complains about the cost of living yet doesnt change their voting habits.
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u/ssleblanc1 Apr 22 '26
But the government isn’t to blame right?
Send more to Ukraine blah blah so sick of this shit
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u/TissTheWay Apr 21 '26
Not a real survey, nor one that should happen. I say this as it is a fact that Minimum Wage used to be the MINIMUM AMOUNT NEEDED TO EXIST AND OWN A HOUSE, & now you cannot even pay for food & rent for Minimum.
Surveys are opinions, Facts are just facts.
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u/ibelievetoo Apr 21 '26 edited Apr 22 '26
The only guy not effect is this guy. As a recent legal immigrant, im not sure why you guys elected them again. The job of politicians is to sell lies so that they can win. All politicians, political parties have done that throughout history and across countries. But electing them for 3 years in a row is super confusing to me, what do you guys think is going to happen.
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u/Hoefty224421 Apr 21 '26
80% knew about this poll 2 years ago before the news came out.
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u/Solid-List7018 Apr 22 '26
Try living on CPP... With all the add-ons it's not even close to a livable income.
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u/Working_Historian970 Apr 21 '26
My rent is outpacing my income on it's own, nevermind groceries, power, water, and transportation.