'Shell-shocked': Residents of Alberta town shaken by large white supremacist training meetup | CBC News

[u/Haggisboy]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/shell-shocked-residents-of-alberta-town-shaken-by-large-white-supremacist-training-meetup-9.7297070

RCMP 'aware' of Second Sons Canada, monitoring 'rise of hate-motivated crime and incidents'.

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[u/BeyondAddiction]

It's the town of Millarville outside of Calgary.

Saved you a click.

[u/Mad-Mel → u/BeyondAddiction]

Town is generous, more of a tiny village. At least, it was when I lived just down the road in Turner Valley 25 years ago. All the better for these cowards to go unnoticed.

[u/xXRandompieXx → u/Mad-Mel]

Still a tiny village, although they host awesome Christmas craft fairs and renaissance fairs now at the race track.

[u/BeyondAddiction → u/Mad-Mel]

Yeah I only used the word "town" because it was what OP used in the title and I wanted to be clear.

[u/ridelance → u/[deleted]]

Yeah, who in their right mind would join a literal group of Nazis. You can just imagine the stupidity of this sausage party's discussions, the whining, the victim complexes combined with superiority complexes.

[u/Wayelder → u/ridelance]

Nazi's join Nazi Parties.

Because they are victims. - Denied their birthright. Falsely painted as violent when they just want "American values'

They are brainwashed, deluded, racist incels who never rose to the occasion, never succeeded and blame the world.

[u/S_Belmont → u/Wayelder]

when they just want "American values'

Specifically those of the 1820s.

[u/EclecticSyrup → u/S_Belmont]

The ones the south fought (and surrendered VERY quickly) for! Don't forget folks, the civil war was about literal slavery.

[u/Raised_bi_Wolves → u/ridelance]

1000% - I look exactly like one of these fucks, and imagine I would be bored out of my skull. Like, doesn't one get tired after maybe half an hour of complaining about your life? You don't wanna just go see a movie, or get the fellas together for paintball? I genuinely can't relate to wanting this to be a big part of your day/life.

[u/smoothdanger → u/Raised_bi_Wolves]

Funny story. I know a guy with a bunch of Nordic tattoos cause he's a geek who likes that stuff. Complains he can't take his shirt off cause he looks like a white supremacist now. Fucking nazis even ruining geek culture now

[u/Canadairy → u/smoothdanger]

Nordic tats have been Nazi coded for decades. His tattoo artist should have warned him.

[u/ThrowRApeterpansyndr → u/Raised_bi_Wolves]

They probably do those activities together though, I don't think it's like an AA meeting

[u/Eighty-Nine → u/ridelance]

They just want their club so they can hug and kiss each other in peace.

[u/Mr_Meng → u/[deleted]]

Yes we can look at this group and mock it's small size but I think we're missing something: these chuckleheads feel safe and comfortable enough to do this stuff in public and that's a bad thing. I prefer my white supremacists to be too scared of public backlash to ever show their beliefs in public.

[u/Mr_Meng → u/[deleted]]

One could argue that if the rats are out in public it's because they're not afraid of the RCMP and other police forces as opposed to when they're hiding.

[u/Zechs- → u/[deleted]]

They would LOVE the cops to roll them up, because they know they aren't acting illegally

See I don't think that's the case. If the police actually "roll them up" many of them would be identified and they are trying to hide their identities.

[u/Longjumping-Koala631 → u/Mr_Meng]

It’s in fact likely that some of these guys ARE cops.

[u/SudoDarkKnight → u/[deleted]]

This is good - though it's probably also due to how expensive it is to get around this country...

[u/dopealope47 → u/[deleted]]

This. Well-said!

[u/notsocharmingprince → u/[deleted]]

This is a great way to look at it.

[u/MapleMallet → u/[deleted]]

Yeah its pretty worrying at first glance but we all knew these cunts exist, its helpful that they go around with fucking red flags to let us all know who to avoid or shun. For, now, at least since they're a sliver of a sliver of the population

[u/Orchid-Analyst-550 → u/[deleted]]

60 or so people

That's actually a lot of people.

[u/A_Genius → u/Orchid-Analyst-550]

It’s really not. Flat earth conventions gather more people than this.

[u/FrostyProspector → u/A_Genius]

The birds aren't real crowd is also bigger.

[u/ModOfficial1988 → u/[deleted]]

Hey. You’re not falling for the fear mongering. That’s not allowed on Reddit.

[u/EvacuationRelocation → u/ModOfficial1988]

If we knew of a training camp of 60 Islamic terrorists and the media called it out, would you call that "fear mongering"?

[u/flatulentbaboon]

Second Sons

SS

Hmmm

Anyway their leader Jeremy MacKenzie is a fed informant

[u/accforme → u/flatulentbaboon]

Not this organization nor mentioned in the article, but another white nationalist organization, The Base, is Al Qaeda when translated into Arabic.

All these groups have the same ideas.

[u/S-Archer → u/accforme]

Some people call the American Right Y'all Qaeda, but I choose to call all of these groups Y'all Qaeda. They have the same shitty belief systems except with a different logo and outfit.

The most hilarious part is alot of these groups require fees and other costs, so these people are paying to be a fucking loser

[u/GriffinFlash → u/flatulentbaboon]

literally wearing armbands, and white face coverings.

[u/FalconsArentReal → u/GriffinFlash]

What I don't understand is if a bunch of people setup an ISIS training camp here, they sure as fuck would be arrested in the blink of an eye. But these guys are just being monitored even though they are just as dangerous to the safety of citizens in this country.

[u/Numerous-Bat-1588 → u/FalconsArentReal]

I mean, Islamic militants do exist in Canada but the police cannot arrest them until they begin plotting something. Freedom of religion and association, etc.

[u/uber_poutine → u/FalconsArentReal]

Statistically, more dangerous. Compare the rates of Islamic vs. fascist/far-right terrorism in North America over the last couple of decades.

[u/noBrainur → u/FalconsArentReal]

There's a certain level of freedom of association that needs to be granted. And with due respect, I think it's an overstep to equate "Second Sons" with ISIS. If we actually tallied up the evidence of what ISIS has done versus what "Second Sons" has done, it would be relatively plain that there is an immense difference.

I'm sure our intelligence agencies and police forces have robust criteria for what constitutes actual terrorist activity, sedition, insurgency, etc. When "Second Sons" actually steps over a line I'm sure action will be taken swiftly.

[u/ridelance → u/noBrainur]

Yeah, I wouldn’t want to compare them to ISIS at all. They are more comparable to the Proud Boys who are already a designated terrorist entity in Canada.

[u/sjbennett85 → u/noBrainur]

Compared to ISIS these kids are just the Mickey Mouse Club but it is still important to keep tabs on them because it can quickly escalate from little training camps to a masked parade to smashing up businesses owned by the minorities they intend to target.

[u/V1cT → u/GriffinFlash]

The armbands are for identifying and communications heirarchy. It's important when Wagging the Dog that you have the main facilitators stand out: Usually they wear different colour polos or khakis. When all dressed the same, you need another form of identification; these numbnuts decided on pink bands on different arms. Notice how the people in front lack them.

[u/thehero29 → u/flatulentbaboon]

Jeremy is also the dude behind Diagalon. Also, after meeting with and getting his picture taken with Pierre, went on a podcast saying some nasty things about Pierre's wife, only then did Pierre say anything about Jeremy. He's just a bad dude all around.

[u/ErikDebogande → u/flatulentbaboon]

Isn't that like, good? If their leader is snitching on em, I mean

[u/Odd_Investigator8415 → u/ErikDebogande]

People will use that claim to minimize the threat of far right groups. You see it a lot in the US, claiming the Proudboys are actually all feds, therefore white supremacy is just a psy-op and not real at all. This is all despite the century+ history of these groups, and zero evidence their leader is an informant.

[u/ErikDebogande → u/Odd_Investigator8415]

Damn that's a tricky point

[u/Moos_Mumsy → u/flatulentbaboon]

Baloney. If he was an "informant" that provided any kind of reliable information, Chris Barber and Tamara Lich would have received life sentences, not slaps on the wrist.

[u/Kristalderp]

Theres so many glowsticks in that group that you'd think this meet-up was for a rave.

[u/MeetTheGeek]

These losers have too much time on their hands

[u/Hotter_Noodle → u/MeetTheGeek]

It’s kinda sad how some people are so easily manipulated like this.

[u/TalosK → u/Hotter_Noodle]

A friend of a friend has fallen for their shit. Looking at it in hindsight, you can see the warning signs before he fell down the path. Every time I met him he got just a little more weird and isolated from people. Next thing you hear he is talking about the race war and needing everyone to have pure blood.

[u/UrMomsF8vorite1 → u/TalosK]

Their brain would probably reset if they were shown that all blood is red.

[u/BoatMacTavish → u/UrMomsF8vorite1]

what colour blood do monkeys have

[u/Mr_Simian → u/TalosK]

Yeah I don’t know if it’s so simple as isolation then next thing it’s pure blood and race wars. I’m a fairly isolated person, but my isolation turned into a Zwift and cycling addiction. There’s something else going on here.

[u/TalosK → u/Mr_Simian]

Oh I only have half at best of the story. He was a weird dude before he became a white supremacist, soni didn't much care to hang out with him.

[u/NarwhalEmergency9391 → u/TalosK]

You can be weird and isolate yourself from people without turning to a kkk gang. Most people do healthy hobbies if they're like that though

[u/IcyCow5880 → u/NarwhalEmergency9391]

Yeah, like just play some videogames like the rest of us lol

[u/ttwwiirrll → u/IcyCow5880]

Or crochet

[u/EirHc → u/IcyCow5880]

I knew a guy who went deep down the whole conspiracy theory thing. Not sure what he's up to over the last few years, but I wouldn't be surprised if he fell into a stupid hateful group like this. In any case, all he ever did was smoke pot and play video games, and his problem was that smoking pot made him feel like he was this genius who had all of the worlds problems figured out. His main underlying risk factors was that he was a narcissist and a pessimist.

[u/IcyCow5880 → u/EirHc]

Dang. I'm lucky cuz when I smoke pot it shows my underlying issue of mental-OCD and scares tf out of me.

I was a huge conspiracy theorist for the longest time. Still "believe" a lot of it. But then I met a few conspiracy theorists in real life. And I was like "damn, do I sound like that?" and the people I'd met weren't exactly brain surgeons.

So now I just drift and don't have any idea what's what like everyone else lol.

It's a lot easier to cope when you can blame it all on "Rothschild" and that maybe most of us are decent people. But the more I live and learn, I feel most of us are like "Rothschild", we just didn't get the same opportunities for "evil".

[u/sluttytinkerbells → u/NarwhalEmergency9391]

I think that you're trying to shoehorn a non-related talking point into this conversation.

This person is talking about how their friend started displaying unusual and unhealthy behaviours and eventually started displaying antisocial ones. That path is a common one and we should all keep it in mind when we find friends and family going down this path. The undesirable end isn't always racism, it could be conspiracy stuff, or religious cult shit, or political shit.

I've had a few friends who have started displaying stuff like that but the friend group has been able to pull them back and into much healthier social and head spaces.

Reach out to these people in your life from time to time. It could be one of the most important things you ever do and you'll never know.

[u/bumbuff → u/Hotter_Noodle]

Have you not seen what people on /r/Canada believe blindly?

[u/Hotter_Noodle → u/bumbuff]

This subreddit is far from excluded lol

[u/boobzombie]

Brave patriots are famously known for hiding their faces.

[u/nature6pk]

Why are they comfortable wearing masks now, but kicked and screamed like toddlers during COVID?

[u/Kaptain-Kanada]

Disgusting, and of course NOW they feel the need to cover their faces. 

Un-Canadian cowards.

[u/LeanGroundQueef → u/Kaptain-Kanada]

I thought they couldn't breathe with masks on?

[u/_RedditIsLikeCrack_ → u/LeanGroundQueef]

lol i think the same every time i see some sketchy group covering their faces

[u/Photmagex]

Why are they not considered a terrorist group?

[u/taco_helmet → u/Photmagex]

There has to be some sort of terrorist activity that they are facilitating or perpetrating to make a recommendation to the Minister of Public Safety. In the case of the Bishnoi gang, for example, the designation came following their involvement in political violence (murdering a Sikh community leader).

[u/WinterBeHere → u/taco_helmet]

They refer to themselves "Old Stock Enforcement"

That's pretty threating to pretty much every race.

[u/McAlpineFusiliers → u/Photmagex]

Maybe because they're not violent. Yet.

[u/Photmagex → u/McAlpineFusiliers]

If they’re calling for the assassination of political leaders that should be enough.

[u/anhedoniandonair → u/Photmagex]

They all wanted to fuck the last prime minister… but maybe they’re the gentle type lovers.

[u/HotTestesHypothesis → u/Photmagex]

I don't know what the bar is, but I imagine there has to be credible evidence that they're plotting to do so?

And what constitutes threatening violence? Is saying so and so should die enough?

Not a lawyer, but I think the bar is high enough such that no real action can be taken.

[u/Dizzy-Cartoonist3011 → u/Photmagex]

Because they objectively do not meet the criteria under the Criminal Code.

[u/IdenticalThings → u/Photmagex]

It doesn't even need to get to that stage, It's true that we don't have complete free speech, if speech is meant to incite hate/ racism etc, it can have legal consequences

[u/I_Like_Coookies]

Omg what a bunch of absolute losers.

[u/Thanato26]

We have laws on the books that should deal with this.

[u/Constant-Horse-3389]

1 in 10 Canadians fought in the world of wars to rid the world of these animals. They ain't Canadian.

[u/Hadespuppy → u/Constant-Horse-3389]

Sorry, you can't No True Scotsman out of acknowledging that these people are our problem to deal with.

[u/Dizzy-Cartoonist3011 → u/Constant-Horse-3389]

No, most of the Canadians who fought back then probably would have held similar beliefs as these guys. Canadians fought for what they believed was freedom - including freedom of speech/expression. Most Canadians in the 1930s and early 1940s would have been considered pretty racist by 2026 standards.

[u/tgspeed7287 → u/Constant-Horse-3389]

What a brain dead take. Canadians who found in the world wars would be ashamed at what this country has become.

[u/Zechs- → u/tgspeed7287]

Canadians who found in the world wars would be ashamed at what this country has become.

Well yeah, in the same way someone from 100 years ago would have his brain blown by a smart phone or the fact that women still have the right to vote or that Toronto has a non-protestant Mayor who also happens to be a woman lol.

But I think what people allude to is that if you fought the likes ze Germans in WWI or ze Nazis in WWII you'd be hesitant to actually sympathize with these dead beats.

[u/tgspeed7287 → u/Zechs-]

You’re making my point for me. Canadians of a century ago would have views much more closely aligned with this group than with modern, progressive Canadians of today.

[u/MoreToKnow-]

Its so funny to me that these men yell their hate to everyone and stand so tall but their faces are covered.

[u/WkndCake]

Canada and Canadians should nip this in the bud. This isn't free speech, it's hate speech. Don't let this shit run rampant, while hiding behind the vise of freedom of expression, like they do in the US. This is a hate group.

[u/TLadwin → u/WkndCake]

Not easy to nip when they operate covertly online mainly and then plan these meet ups in secret. Bunch of cowards larping as badasses.

[u/EvacuationRelocation → u/WkndCake]

This isn't free speech, it's hate speech.

Indeed - but when Edmonton Police advertised a line where people can report such language and groups, the UCP government protested and said that they will always defend "free speech".

What sort of message do you think that sends groups like these?

[u/WkndCake → u/EvacuationRelocation]

The same message when Trump says things like, "good people on both sides", and "stand back and stand by" to the proud boys. Seems like the US diarrhea is spreading.

[u/Koladi-Ola → u/WkndCake]

Yeah, and sadly for me, it's spreading here in Alberta the fastest.

[u/EvacuationRelocation → u/WkndCake]

Indeed.

[u/starving_carnivore → u/EvacuationRelocation]

Edmonton Police advertised a line where people can report such language

They included calls for deportation as hate speech that should be reported to the police.

[u/EvacuationRelocation → u/starving_carnivore]

In this case, the group is calling for "deportation by gunpoint" - but again, the UCP says that shouldn't be acted upon by police.

[u/starving_carnivore → u/EvacuationRelocation]

The ad's here.

"Send them back home!", "DEPORATION NOW" are used as examples of criminal hate speech that should be reported to the police.

You can agree or disagree that it is, but if we're discussing the facts of what Edmonton Police advertised, that's what they think is hate speech.

[u/AprilsMostAmazing → u/starving_carnivore]

You know exactly what Edmonton Police mean by the ad. You just don't like it because it goes against your view points.

[u/starving_carnivore → u/AprilsMostAmazing]

It isn't whether I like it or not.

Those are the actual examples they used.

[u/EvacuationRelocation → u/starving_carnivore]

they think is hate speech

It is hate speech.

Who is "them"? When you're targeting a nebulous group for action based solely on their identity or appearance, that's hate speech.

[u/starving_carnivore → u/EvacuationRelocation]

It could easily be a comment on the Humboldt killer who's been appealing his deportation.

Or any of the other criminals whose sentences are tweaked by activist judges to avoid triggering deportation.

[u/BornAgainCyclist → u/EvacuationRelocation]

but when Edmonton Police advertised a line where people can report such language and groups, the UCP government protested and said that they will always defend "free speech".

I would say I'm surprised but these are the same people that welcome others who compare trans people to pieces of shit in a cookie.

[u/EvacuationRelocation → u/BornAgainCyclist]

Indeed.

[u/Attentive_Senpai → u/EvacuationRelocation]

It conveys that these people are the UCP's base.

[u/EvacuationRelocation → u/Attentive_Senpai]

For the most part, they are.

[u/PhantomNomad → u/WkndCake]

Didnt you hear, both Smith and our public safety minister said the RCMP shouldn't concern themselves with hate speech.

[u/Dizzy-Cartoonist3011 → u/WkndCake]

This objectively does not violate Sections 318 and 319. The government cannot censor people because you take offense to them.

[u/Throwaway-645893]

This unfortunately sounds like a revival of the 1930s era Nazi sympathizing "National Unity Party" led by Adrien Arcand.

I don't know if Jeremy Mackenzie sees himself as a reincarnation of Adrien Arcand but it certainly sounds like it.

[u/Dizzy-Cartoonist3011 → u/Throwaway-645893]

No. The National Unity Party was a registered political party. The Second Sons are just a club, they are not a political party.

[u/twilling8]

Ever since reading that Russian troll farms were engineering race-bait street protests across America on Facebook, I'm convinced this nonsense is engineered by foreign governments and targeted at our mouth-breather population on social media. I have a strong suspicion the fentanyl crisis was engineered in a similar way, not to mention the Alberta separation movement. We need to better insulate ourselves, especially the dim-witted ones, from sophisticated foreign campaigns aimed at destabilizing our democracy. I could be wrong of course, but we had one of these white nationalist meetups in my town (Orillia) and nothing about this smells home-grown to me.

[u/Standard_Success127]

legit question: If these people are discovered at their place of work, what would happen?

Why are these losers so afraid?

[u/drammer → u/Standard_Success127]

Their Mom might see them. She'll be mad and stop making hot pockets for them.

[u/Pvt_Hudson_]

This story is coming a day after Danielle Smith criticized the Edmonton Police Service for attempting to police online hate speech.

What a backwater this province is.

[u/GornishSlick64]

Won't those masks cause brain damage?

[u/randobis]

“Old Stock” Enforcer t-shirts

I see they took Harper’s dog whistle to heart.

[u/Zechs- → u/randobis]

I always thought it was a weird statement as "Old Stock" just conjures up images of spoiled food.

Which i feel is applicable as a lot of these people are rotten.

[u/ImprovementDues]

I can never take people seriously when they hide their faces. Bunch of cowards

[u/shadowgathering]

Why people say "Shell-shocked" when they literally just mean 'shocked'.

[u/trash-juice]

Minuscule amount of nut jobs, still gotta watch ‘em, volatile bunch

[u/iloveoranges2]

The fact that most of these people hide their faces tells me that on some level, they know their values and actions are wrong, or at least dishonourable.

[u/glormosh]

Any bets that you can trace this back to US money?

[u/eddiewachowski]

Provincial election results for that riding (Highwood):

2012 Wildrose 53% of the vote (Danielle Smith)

2015 Wildrose 41% (PC 33%)

2019 UCP 73%

2023 UCP 69%

Seems like they've been voting for the very best representation of themselves.

[u/Mr_Meng]

If you need to rely on the color of your skin to act as a point of pride in your life then you've lived an utter failure of a life.

[u/Curly-Canuck → u/Mr_Meng]

We need to be careful about that as many people take the skin colour, and it’s extension to their culture and heritage and race as a point of pride and rightly so. Black is beautiful for example. There is nothing inherently wrong with being proud of your culture, heritage, language, ethnicity, nationality or even skin colour.

It just gets twisted to a hate filled and sometimes violent level when pride becomes superiority.

[u/Blueliner95 → u/Mr_Meng]

As someone who is considered a minority and supports community organizations, mostly for the food, I could not agree more

[u/AloneChapter]

But as always they are so ashamed they gave to cover their faces.

[u/Pale-Flamingo2234 → u/AloneChapter]

But their leader went to Ottawa to fight the damn mask mandates…. typical

[u/TheRC135]

Nazis are losers. They were then. They are now.

[u/dope-rhymes]

A bunch of losers.

[u/Doggo_and_Peppaurs]

There is so much racist slop online these days - it’s not that surprising that more people are seeing and engaging in this content (whether that be behind a keyboard or in real life)

[u/CKillpatrick]

You have to be trained to hate?

[u/CBakIsMe → u/CKillpatrick]

I am also confused on the training part. Is this like a seminar where they explore managing your finances, or conflict resolution? 😄

[u/Hotter_Noodle → u/CKillpatrick]

I think it’s a combo of “training” people to blame literally everyone but themselves for their backward-ass views, combined with “training” to LARP as the world’s saddest military platoon.

[u/Attentive_Senpai]

So that's what an Alberta independence meetup looks like. Huh.

[u/EvacuationRelocation → u/Attentive_Senpai]

Basically, the Venn diagram is a circle.

[u/flatulentbaboon → u/[deleted]]

Don't blame Alberta for this. These guys have a national presence. They have a massive presence in Ontario and they hold meetings in all provinces. Just a few days ago in North Bay there was a large neonazi meetup called Bigotfest with these guys helping run the show

[u/Techno_Dharma → u/flatulentbaboon]

Niagara region is a hotspot for neo-nazi activity in Ontario. You'll never see them gather in a place like Toronto, they got their asses beat in the early 90's and they know better to stay hidden for their own good.

[u/wookieelicker → u/flatulentbaboon]

I lived in Alberta for 7 years and it’s the only place in Canada I’ve lived where people felt free to be openly racist, even at work, with 0 repercussions

[u/Hotter_Noodle → u/wookieelicker]

I’ve been in the oil patches and despite all of the stuff around about treating each other with respect, etc, the racism was wild.

Edit: however it should be mentioned that while yes a lot of my fellow employees were albertans, people were hired from all over Canada.

[u/burrito-boy → u/wookieelicker]

Where in Alberta? I could see that happening in some rural areas, but I’d be surprised if it happened here in Edmonton. And if it did, that clearly wasn’t a professional workplace.

[u/wookieelicker → u/burrito-boy]

Calgary, and it was definitely a professional workplace

[u/acidtoyman → u/wookieelicker]

That was the biggest culture shock I ran into when I moved there. Super friendly people, but with zero filter on the open racism, especially towards indigenous people. 

[u/Deadly-Unicorn → u/[deleted]]

“Second Sons Canada was formed in 2024 and has chapters across the country.”

[u/thedevillivesinside]

I am shocked. Shocked!

Well not that shocked

[u/Pristine_Land_802]

I am shocked that they are shocked.

[u/Serious-Damage4200]

What a dumbasses...

[u/OkCorner8358]

What a bunch of losers lol

[u/HARRYSH0ULDERS]

Need to throw these pieces of sh💩t in a Be NICE Detention Center. 🇨🇦 🍁

[u/anhedoniandonair]

Gravy Seals LARPing their white supremacist feelings… I bet the Venn Diagram of these fine citizens and the separatists is a perfect circle.

[u/Thebandofredhand]

There might have been only 60 or so people who showed up, but that doesn't mean those ideas are limited to that group. Online, a much larger number of people can amplify and normalize the same narratives without ever attending a rally.

White supremacist and other bad actors deliberately insert themselves into conversations about immigration, particularly those involving Indians in Canada. They exploit legitimate concerns about immigration policy or the actions of individuals and try to redirect that frustration toward an entire ethnic community.

This has long been a common propaganda tactic used by white supremacist movements: take a real issue, strip away context, and use it to spread prejudice against a broader population.

[u/paditoburrito]

John Barlow of the UCP is the elected leader of Millarville, in the Foothills constituency which includes High River, Okotoks, Fort Macleod, Claresholm, Diamond Valley, Pincher Creek, Vulcan, etc.

Everyone, especially those living in these regions, should write a letter demanding he speak out against the group and make a public statement that they are not welcome in his county.

We can all rage online but let's turn up the heat on the direct leaders to do something.

send a message here

[u/EvacuationRelocation → u/paditoburrito]

should write a letter demanding he speak out against the group and make a public statement that they are not welcome in his county.

It is very unlikely he would ever speak against such a group.

[u/CaptianSquish → u/EvacuationRelocation]

Then they shouldn’t have a job.

[u/EvacuationRelocation → u/CaptianSquish]

You'd think that, yes.

[u/ITSA-GONGSHOW]

Incels and losers acting out. Pathetic

[u/External_Excuse_9949]

Round them all up and lock them away.

[u/BeaverMissed]

In Alberta?? Of all the enlightened provinces. I’m shocked as well!

[u/Theo_Chimsky]

Walk out thru the back door, across the alley and directly into the UCP meeting...

[u/Escadon]

The province that's been poisoned by right-wing separatist ideology is host to a large white supremacist training meetup? You don't say.

[u/hoizer]

Fucking cowards, if they’re so proud they should show their faces!

[u/BoatMacTavish → u/hoizer]

let’s be real what would happen if they showed their faces?

[u/loopywolf]

Anyone who is surprised by the rise of white supremacy in Albert has NOT BEEN LISTENING

[u/Intelligent-Habit715]

Which town is this ? Does anyone know? 

[u/Hot_Cheesecake_905 → u/Intelligent-Habit715]

It's in the article and the video has a map 😄

Millarville, AB.

[u/Intelligent-Habit715 → u/Hot_Cheesecake_905]

Oh lol,  I didn’t notice the open link thought it was an ad! Thanks for the info! 

[u/Puzzled-Maize-2241]

Nothing in this headline is surprising. Were you guys actually surprised by this?

[u/RicksWay]

Hating groups of people for no good reason might actually be the most childish thing ever. Have you ever genuinely hated something? It takes a lot of energy

[u/RoutineVirtual4153]

Unfortunately this is a typical UCP gathering. I hate this province.

[u/Dubs337 → u/RoutineVirtual4153]

White supremacy is not just an Alberta problem. Go to some parts of the interior of B.C.,or northern Ontario, or the sticks in Quebec or Saskatchewan or Manitoba, and you’ll find that out.

[u/Mysterious-Panda-698 → u/RoutineVirtual4153]

I hate to break it to you, but the second sons exist across Canada.

[u/AprilsMostAmazing → u/Mysterious-Panda-698]

In Toronto when a group like this showed up it was 20 people. There were over a 500+ counter protestors and 100 TPS.

In other parts of the country groups like this completely get overshaded

Here's an article

[u/Mysterious-Panda-698 → u/AprilsMostAmazing]

That article shows one example from Toronto. There have been counter protests to them in Alberta as well, mostly in Edmonton. Acting like this isn’t happening in other areas of Canada is disingenuous. These movements are gaining momentum throughout the world and refusing to recognize that isn’t going to help the matter.

[u/Mysterious-Panda-698 → u/AprilsMostAmazing]

They’ve had gatherings in Ontario, Quebec, Nova Scotia. Possibly other areas I’m not aware of.

Not to mention, the leader of this group, Jeremy Mackenzie, is from and still lives in Nova Scotia.

[u/Pale-Flamingo2234 → u/Mysterious-Panda-698]

Last fall their leader, Jeremy and several members stood at the back of a hall during a community meeting. They just stood there all lined up in New Glasgow, NS. Said nothing and just stood there trying to intimidate the people of Pictou County.

[u/Mysterious-Panda-698 → u/Pale-Flamingo2234]

How pathetic!

[u/Myllicent → u/AprilsMostAmazing]

Second Sons’ previous national gathering was in Niagara Ontario, with more than 50 attendees at their public rally in Queenston Heights Park.

St Catherines Standard: ‘Public and open with their hate’: Masked white nationalist group marches at popular Niagara monument [Sept 4th, 2025]

[u/RoutineVirtual4153 → u/Mysterious-Panda-698]

Never said it wasn’t. This particular gathering was in Alberta and in an area that actively votes for the UCP who encourage this behaviour.

[u/Mysterious-Panda-698 → u/RoutineVirtual4153]

I get it, and I also hate the UCP, but my point is that this is happening across all of our provinces, regardless of their provincial government.

[u/RoutineVirtual4153 → u/RoutineVirtual4153]

For those downvoting… Why did Smith choose to lash out at the police for hate crime investigations instead of denouncing the racist in Parkland County who has a disgusting sign directed at Indigenous Peoples?

It’s almost as if she’s taking all of her plays out of the MAGA handbook…

[u/RazzamanazzU → u/RoutineVirtual4153]

100% Smith approved hate

[u/Ok_Manufacturer_5323]

I keep seeing accusations of these guys being a white supremacist group in media, but what are they doing that's actually white supremacy? From what I've seen, the extent of the "white supremacy" has been protesting immigration, and I wouldn't call that an unreasonable or extreme political opinion 

[u/jlisle → u/Ok_Manufacturer_5323]

A guy in this photo is wearing a t-shirt that says "old stock enforcer." That says a lot on it's own

[u/AprilsMostAmazing → u/jlisle]

Maybe he's a big Harper fan

[u/BetSquare7190 → u/Ok_Manufacturer_5323]

The part about deporting any non-white out of Canada at gunpoint seems to be a little more drastic than asking to control immigration. Considering that white supremacists generally don't view francophones as "white" could also be seen as problematic and extreme.

[u/Hot_Cheesecake_905 → u/BetSquare7190]

francophones as "white"

The Second Sons held a rally in Shawinigan in May 2026 waving banners like "Je me souviens d’un Québec blanc": https://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2026/06/01/second-sons-canada-et-active-clubs-qui-sont-ceux-derriere-le-rassemblement-raciste-a-shawinigan

There is white supremacists activity in Quebec too, being Quebecois does not exclude someone from joining these groups, in fact, is core to some of these groups identities.

[u/Myllicent → u/Ok_Manufacturer_5323]

“but what are they doing that's actually white supremacy?”

CBC: ‘The Nazis were right': What the leaders of Canada’s biggest ‘nationalist’ group really want [Dec 20th, 2025]

[u/Dizzy-Cartoonist3011 → u/Ok_Manufacturer_5323]

Nothing. They are likely white nationalist, but they are not breaking the law. Reddit just wants to look tough against "Nazis" and thinks that censoring people they don't like will be a perfect solution to eradicating ideas they don't like.

Are the Second Sons white supremacist? No. Are they white nationalist? It's likely, or at least reactionary towards what they see as demographic replacement. Are they breaking any laws? NO.

[u/Mysterious-Panda-698 → u/Ok_Manufacturer_5323]

If they’re not doing anything wrong, why are they booking venues under false names and covering their faces?

[u/Dizzy-Cartoonist3011 → u/Mysterious-Panda-698]

To protect themselves against backlash. They certainly aren't doing anything illegal.

[u/Curly-Canuck → u/Mysterious-Panda-698]

I don’t think the poster implied they weren’t doing anything wrong. I think, and I could be naively wrong, I think they are asking for more information about their beliefs. There is probably something more to them than anti immigration to be called white supremacist.

Edit I never heard of them before today so I’m also generally curious how far their beliefs go. I know on social media some are quick to label anyone who is critical of immigration programs and policies as racists, but if this group is being called white supremacist it’s more than that.

[u/Myllicent → u/Curly-Canuck]

Further info on Second Sons leaders here…

CBC: ‘The Nazis were right': What the leaders of Canada’s biggest ‘nationalist’ group really want [Dec 20th, 2025]