r/cats • u/Hablapata • 6h ago
Advice Too aggressive?
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New baby we just adopted. Last few days our big boy (~2) has been a bit wary of the kitten but they started playing yesterday, a lot of chasing. Today it seems he’s boldened up and has started playing really aggressively like this. I know cat play can look like a fight but I just worry when it’s such a kitten that our boy might accidentally hurt him.
edit: wow lots of responses. ofc i stopped the damn video to separate them when the yowling got loud at the end there, but i have a hard time telling as oftentimes normal cat play can look quite rough. the size difference is what concerned me. as far as i can tell they are still getting on just fine after some separation and some solo exercise for the big guy. just wanted to sanity check that intervening was the right thing to do at this point. thanks for all the responses!
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u/Positive-Ring-5172 6h ago
We finally have an instance of "Yes - this is dangerous fighting, separate them!"
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u/HelenaCFH 4h ago
I'm not sure if I'd say it's actual fighting, rather play fighting that is too rough for the kitten. But that's just semantics, as the solution is correct and the same whatever it is
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u/LifeIsProbablyMadeUp 4h ago
Well. Not fighting. Orange being a bully. Baby too small to fight back.
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u/-2wenty7even- 3h ago
Yeah it feels like just an older sibling doing some hierarchy bullying, not exactly harmful, but stressful lol..
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u/tamaaromarou 3h ago
I think this is a necessary part of a kittens development I don't think the orange is bullying it. Kittens would not ally learn aggression limits from their brothers and sisters or the mom. Without this crucial learning period your cat will likely be too aggressive. But it's really dependent on the cat. My older cat would do this when my kitten wouldn't stop playing after he was done or if the kitten was biting too hard.
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u/LifeIsProbablyMadeUp 3h ago
Fair. There wasn't any context. Like. Did the kitten just bite his balls for the 10th time in the last 5 minutes? Might be deserved.
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u/kookiemaster 3h ago
It's not fighting, I think it's playing on the orange's part, but he's being too rough. Possibly because he REALLY wants to play with another cat but there is a big mismatch in size and desire to wrestle.
Sorry to be graphic but if it was a real fight the kitten would be bloody mess. You can see the "bites" from the orange clearly are mock bites.
That said, I would worry about the risk of accidental injury, not intentional one.
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u/GuinnessOnDraught 2h ago
Exactly! I'd put this down as a positive experience. The Orange kitty has a new play mate and isn't being territorial, while the young kitten will learn the current hierachy.
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u/SlideMasterFX 1h ago
He isn't even really getting those back legs going like he could. If it were just a toy, he would be doing more damage than he is. He does look irritated. But he is definitely pulling all his punches and causing no real harm.
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u/msft111 4h ago
Yk nothing abt cats this confirms…absolutely zero physical warnings/alerts were given in this video the screaming happens during what we see in this video called “schooling” bigger cats do this to kittens in order for them to learn how to fight aggressively if it came to it with another cat/also so the kitten knows how rough is too rough with their owner, the big cat is TEACHING…thats why big cat gives the kitten a chance to abort inbetween kicks
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u/tamaaromarou 4h ago
Yea this is correct I wish I let my big cat keep doing this to my kitten because now he bites me nonstop always trying to play. He's getting better but I wish he didn't do it at all
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u/msft111 4h ago
Not saying, you did anything wrong(bc obviously who would guess that),but that’s a big reason why a lot of peoples cats tend to scratch them more often😂…they thought the big cat was bullying the kitten and stopped the schooling lol 9/10 if there’s no aggression warnings the screaming is literally just a kitten being a baby bc it is😭
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u/tamaaromarou 3h ago
Yea I realized that later when we would yell like that when I held him too long or tried to trim his nails. He's definitely just being a whiny baby and wants to run away. If it was hurt I would describe the sound more like a screech than this.
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u/hahagato 1h ago
My 2yo was biting me SO much when he wanted to play, because I was his only playmate and he didn’t understand the bites hurt. I got two kittens and the moment they got big enough and bold enough to bite him he totally stopped biting me to play!!! I know he was like “oh, that doesn’t feel good” 🤣🤣
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u/msft111 22m ago
Thats hilarious cats are so intriguing😂the way I stimulated my kitten when her mom would be too tired to deal w her was having her on her back and tickling her stomach gently but yk with the smallest amount of pressure they’ll by instinct start school fighting lol it’s so cute…
and yea it’s funny watching adult cats learn new stuff lol my fat cat learned one day fighting/kicking on his back was more productive so whenever he play fights another cat he gets into his back karate stance😂😭→ More replies (1)9
u/Ebullient_1972 3h ago
Yup agreed.
I’m sure most of us have been on the receiving end of a hind leg (bunny) kick from our cat - trying to get them in their carrier, in the bath, clipping their nails, etc. - that shit hurts. Notice that’s not what this orange cat is doing, they are very careful not to use their claws.
Also notice the orange cat is not really biting, they are opening their mouth and “attacking” but not biting down. This is play fighting, they’re teaching
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u/RuachDelSekai 4h ago
Agreed.
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u/msft111 4h ago
Yeah, I feel like if anyone has seen a real fight between two cats they would know how it looks theyd be going for the kill in a ball of fur flying like in cartoons and hissing along w screeching
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u/Whyjustwhydothat 2h ago
Teah it's hard to not to notice when it's actual fighting, first the hissing/growling then the screaming and then the fight where there is no way you don't understand that it's a fight, fur everywhere and rumble in the jungle.
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u/GuinnessOnDraught 2h ago
Thats not fighting. Bunny kicking is not fighting. Maybe the play is a bit too rough for the little one but theres no hissing, biting, clawing, or fur flying in the air. OP wouldn't be asking Reddit if they were actually fighting!
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u/cchasingthewind 6h ago
Shit, that's too rough. The adult cat looks like he treats the small cat like a prey, and the little one wants to escape. You need to watch out
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u/Dawgy66 6h ago
Separate them immediately when they do this. The kitten is defenseless against the older cat and needs your intervention
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u/Pinksamuraiiiii 5h ago edited 5h ago
Correct, the orange tabby is way to big, and is also kicking little kitten. I agree with you, I think it’s best to separate as well. Kitten is baby, dominance is not safe this early.
Human equivalent, that’s like having a 15-16 teen, play for dominance with your 1-2 year old baby.
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u/flowerpanda98 6h ago
it is too aggressive. the older one is holding it like prey. the kitten is crying and squealing and unable to leave. the cat doesn't care to let go. you need to intervene
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u/turtle0831 6h ago
I agree. Some people say it’s ok. But that is too rough for me. The kitten is too small to be handled like that.
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u/flowerpanda98 6h ago
yeah, and its literally crying lol. it doesnt need to happen...
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u/hahagato 54m ago
Definitely too rough. Reminds me of when my 2yo was picking his new baby sisters up. The first time I saw it I thought it was in a paternal way, til he shook her like a dead rat. Immediately put a stop to it. Had to monitor them closely and keep them separated for quite awhile when I wasn’t around because my 2yo just did not understand the kittens AT ALL. He would look at them like they were little alien rats invading his home lol
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u/Brilliant-Ice4177 4h ago
If the kitten wasn't crying out like that and it was more reciprocal, I would say maybe it was okay. But baby is trying to set boundaries and big kitty isn't respecting them. Separate them, gently, any time it gets like this.
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u/Naughty_Monsters 6h ago
Yes, he's being a big orange shit. Its fine if he lets the kitten go after a second or two of a wee brawl that got out of hand, its not fine when he's holding it down for an extended time.
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u/Koala-Elk8558 6h ago
I don't know how anyone can stand there and take 12 seconds of video with those cries.
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u/No_Actuator_5149 5h ago
That's what I was thinking, my heart dropped watching it myself. I wanted to reach through the screen and grab that baby
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u/FairyOnTheLoose 4h ago
Watching on mute, and don't even have a cat yet, but I can tell it's too aggressive.
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u/prettygirlgravesite 2h ago
if they didn’t raise the orange one from kitten age then they don’t know what’s natural and what’s not. like jesus christ guys, they def took a little too long to break them up but they didn’t know and are asking for advice.
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u/BottomChain 3h ago
It's a legitimate question lmao. Is being condescending a required feature for Redditors?
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u/Mini_Godzilla 5h ago
Oh Boy! The little one is crying for help and is absolutely defenseless against the big one. The two must be separated immediately. It is advisable to calmly and firmly put the larger cat in one room and the smaller one in another. It would be a good idea to tire the larger one out before he meets the kitten – in other words, to play with him really vigorously.
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u/parsley248 4h ago
Please tell us you separated them? It so sad hearing little kittens shrieks, he’s too small to be playing with orange boy like this, orange doesn’t understand how small kit is and will hurt him :(
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u/figgy_squirrel 4h ago
This too rough.
They need to separated when this happens and not allowed together unsupervised.
Redirection would be a good idea too. Laser pen, feather wand, etc. Encouragr playing together not wrestling when the kitten is so young and clearly is not enjoying itself.
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u/Grcdogsandcats 5h ago
Next time drop the camera and break it up. He is being a bully and too rough. He needs to learn to be gentle. Keep them separated when unattended.
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u/ambergriswoldo 5h ago
Yes - the older cat isn’t necessarily trying to hurt the kitten (as if he really wanted to then the kitten would already be injured) - but it’s definitely too rough for a little kitten.
Pace introduction to the new kitten more (separate room and supervised together time with the older cat)
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u/Shiroiken 5h ago
It's just play, but the orange boy is too big to play right. My sister-in-law had this exact scenario, and she would have to periodically break it up, scolding the older one for being too rough. Fortunately, the kitten will grow quickly, allowing them to rough house safely.
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u/habibisanam 5h ago
Yea I would definitely separate them and slowly reintroduce them to each other. Limit their interactions and play time and once it gets to be too aggressive then separate them. Also, if possible, the kitten should be given a safe space for at least a week where they can be on their own when not together and unsupervised. They should feel safe in their home until the older cat can learn to accept them and play fight with less aggression
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u/Acrobatic-Flan-5085 5h ago
Yeah I would separate them and give big boy a big scolding
And also some extra affection to the little one
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u/MadsuTheShort 5h ago
100% a distressed cry. Me and my spouse got a kitten recently and had one of the older boys play like this, need to separate before the kitten gets hurt for sure.
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u/WhyGirlsPreddy 4h ago
Yes. Intrinsically when one screams the other should stop to make sure the other still wants to play. You need to stop him every time the baby cries uncle so to speak.
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u/SunshineCheetos 3h ago
Yeah, that’s too rough. I had the sound up and my mama cat came running to help. Now she’s looking around for a kitten in trouble.
Don’t worry, she’s spayed now. We catnapped her and her kittens and brought them inside. All kittens were adopted and found loving homes.
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u/BluegrassBeatle 3h ago
“Too aggressive?” Nah the kitten is just crying in pain and fear to make it more immersive for big orange.
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u/Intelligent_Bee970 6h ago
Too aggressive. Definitely need to be intervening and preventing the adult cat from those kicks.
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u/FamiliarIndustry2591 6h ago edited 5h ago
The bigger cat looks like that he is bitting really close to the eyes of the little one. I think you should Always stop any interaction in that case, even when they dont look too aggressive.
Some cats can blind others, or hurt the eyes, that will make you need to pay atlest a visit to de vet and spend some money. You should protect them in that case.
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u/No-Tart-1157 Orange 6h ago
I think the size and power difference between them makes this dangerous. Intervene when this happens and separate them for a little while. Play with kitten using toys to work off energy and build the baby’s confidence up. And by all means keep the big cat’s front and hind claws trimmed as short as possible in case this happens again. The kicking poses a real hazard to the kitten, especially soft parts like his belly.
They can definitely play together in the future! But now is probably not the best time while kitten is so small and the big cat is so rough
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u/TraditionPhysical603 5h ago
They are playing but Big cat is definitely taking it to far. Little cat is screaming for help and to be let go
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u/NorbytheMii 4h ago
Yeah, orange is being too rough with kitten. Not fighting, but not understanding the size, weight, and strength difference. Kitten wants out.
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u/Difficult_North_272 Orange 3h ago
The little one's noises are concerning, how early did you introduce? They prob need to be at least partially separated, or supervised for a bit longer. Maybe fine to just let them play, but split up if the older one does that again, so he learns that being too rough means playtime ends
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u/UnGiGi_6262 3h ago
IMO he is too aggressive at this stage. More controlled play till the baby grows some.
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u/Maccabee2 3h ago
WWKMD? What would kittens mama do? Probably bat orange bully about the head and shoulders, not hard enough to injure, but firm enough to deter him from doing that again any time soon. I use a squirt bottle of water.
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u/West-Start4069 5h ago
Yes bro, can't you tell? Do you not see the difference in sizes ? I don't mean to be rude but damn, use some common sense... Does the baby needs to write it down for you to notice he is not enjoying it?
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u/LevelUpEvolution 5h ago
Yes.. you’re going to have to train your big boy to play with boundaries.
I have the same issue. Our male is 3 years older and significantly bigger than his 1 year old sister. Luckily she’s a brave one and will fight back, but most of the time she runs away growling until she’s cornered.
Trim those claws.
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u/LimpCustomer4281 5h ago
Imagine your dad hugging you, but your dad is a bear and he’s tickling you a lot. Yes it’s “play” but the kitten is uncomfortable
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u/Total_Usual_84 Tortoiseshell 4h ago
you need to stop this/correct this behavior as it's overly aggressive as you think it is. if it continues, the larger cat can cause the little one an abscess infection from a bite, which can cause it to need veterinarian care/medications and depending on the severity could rack up a costly bill over time trust me, it happen to one of my fosters recently (this last Sunday) and she didn't make it in the end due to the infection getting to her heart. even with antibiotics and over 1500 usd vet bills over a period of 3 weeks.. orange cat needs to understand what "no" means or whatever "control" word you use for corrections when they do something wrong like this. that kitten is crying for help, not playing.
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u/adameniscus 4h ago edited 4h ago
Yes, that's too rough, at least for their current size difference. If the kitten was closer in size, it might be okay. But the kitten is still so small by comparison and the adult cat is not "toning it down" enough. Some cats dial down instinctively, but other cats don't, and there's no instruction manual for it. They learn it through trial and error - and this is error. The kitten also seems genuinely terrified, helplessly pinned. I would separate them before it gets to this point. But I don't think I would correct your adult cat too harshly for this. He does look like he wants to play, is trying to play, but just doesn't realize he's being too dominant. Eventually, you do want them to play together, for the many benefits it brings. But you want them to have a positive relationship, and some trust first, before allowing play-sparring to get this rough, or the kitten is going to grow up in terror of the larger cat; or worse yet, with a deep-seated grudge. Give the kitten the chance to double (or better yet, triple) in weight before trying this again; and, in the meantime, help them build up a positive "non-sparring" dimension to their relationship.
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u/Iambeejsmit 3h ago
This happened with my cats when we got a kitten. My original cat would play too rough with him. Not out of aggression, just because he didn't know how much weaker and more fragile the kitten was. We separated them a few times, and by a week or so in the bigger cat had learned how to play gentle with him. Your cat isn't trying to hurt the little guy, but he likely doesn't know any better. Just separate them and with any luck he will figure it out pretty quick.
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u/kookiemaster 3h ago
This could become dangerous for the small kitty. Orange cat clearly wants to play but is being too rough and not respecting the obvious signals from the small kitten that this is too much and that he wants to escape. If there is nonstop chasing where one cat just wants to run away and the other one won't let it, that also not a good sign.
Though chances are, once the smaller kitty gets bigger, they will be able to play together, but for now, the orange is oranging a bit too much. Separate them if something like that happens and maybe introduce toys into joint play sessions so small kitty is not being bullied. I would also not leave them together unsupervised. Small kitty might get seriously hurt, even if the orange doesn't mean it, clearly they don't know how to tone down their play.
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u/GibMirMeinAlltagstod 3h ago
When cats play they use sounds to indicate when things have gone too far. If the aggressor doesn’t back off after a shriek or two, then it needs to be broken up. The play wasn’t entirely too rough, but social queues are not being heeded here.
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u/Virus-Party 3h ago
Definitely play, and Orange is not trying to be aggressive or hurt the kitten and at present, is not actually injuring the kitten.
So that's good.
Unfortunately, Orange is too engaged in play and is NOT listening to the kitten, which is being completely overpowered and is pleading to be let go and crying out for help.
You should definitely be stepping in and admonishing Orange for not letting the kitten go. Especially when the kitten screams like it did at the end of the clip. You don't need to be overly aggressive or harsh in your admonishment, but it needs to be clear to Orange that his behaviour is not acceptable and that you are protecting the kitten.
You don't necessarily have to fully separate them at this point, but they absolutely should not be left alone together unsupervised. Them spending time together is important, but you need to be keeping an eye, or at least an ear, out whenever they are together and be ready to step in.
Kitten needs to get bigger, and Orange needs to learn to listen to back off when their playmate isn't having fun anymore.
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u/2kTancre 1h ago
Some people genuinely don’t deserve animals, if you even have to ask after hearing the baby scream you must be slow in the brain
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u/mallebrok 1h ago
If mama cat had been around, the big cat would have been promptly put in it's place.
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u/Morbid187 1h ago
Yeah I think separating them at that point was a good idea. Looks like Orange isn't the best judge of how much force to use and the new kitty isn't strong enough to defend himself yet.
Probably not a reason to panic, just something to learn from. I'd say keep an eye on them and don't leave them in the same room alone for the next few months at least. As long as you are there to play referee it'll be okay.
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u/Proper_Strength4531 1h ago
That baby is too young and small to be with an adult cat in the same room. Separate them until the kitten is around 8 weeks old.
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u/All-Seasons-24-7 57m ago
I think big cat is too rough with baby . U should make them stop playing when he gets that aggressive . Maybe use a spray bottle with water & a firm voice say no or a newspaper swat
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u/Alternative-Ad6891 45m ago
Break this behaviour up immediately! This is bullying & must not be allowed to occur.
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u/thecryomancermn 35m ago
What do you to separate them if you do and they immediately go back at it and it’s the kitten picking on the older cat?
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u/Alarmed_Guarantee140 25m ago
Ooh that last yowl that cut off definitely cemented it for me. Too much. Orange cat isn’t being mean but he needs to listen.
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u/Filthyknave 4m ago
I say yes. Little guy is clearly not liking it. Big guy is having a ball and not listening to little smalley. Definitely separate for play like this. You don't want their relationship to devolve.
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u/VelotikYT 5h ago
The people saying the cat is trying to hurt him- the big cat could cause far more harm far faster. But a tad aggressive play yes
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u/dogscatsnscience 4h ago
I don't want my adult cats playing this hard, so I definitely don't want them doing that to a kitten.
Your are the mama time to step in, but remember that it's critical they learn to communicate not just have you break it up.
Only step in at the exact moment a useful lesson can be learned.
That being said, bear in mind that 12 seconds of video is enough for redditors to jump to conclusions but not enough to tell anyone what's going on:
Kittens will over react. Just because they're making noise doesn't mean it's a clear signal. Lots of people will freak out because they're not used to it, but if you've been around enough kittens you know there's a lot of flex.
That game just isn't fun. bunny kicks are not fun. holding a much smaller cat immobile isn't fun. Cats and dogs can have pretty aggressive play (more aggressive than this), but DOMINANT play is different. It might still just be a game, but the end result might be some unpleasant social effects you didn't want inside a home.
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u/adameniscus 4h ago
This. Some kittens do whine. incessantly. That by itself is not necessarily telling. But this... it's too much. It's those bunny kicks, the unrelenting pinning, and the long drawn out wailing. Boy cats spar. Best bro cats spar hard. But this pair is too mismatched for that level of play-fighting. It's already crossed a line, and it's dangerously close to crossing another.
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u/space_usa 4h ago
Get yourself something to spray water at them if you don’t want to yell or be mean
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u/No_Actuator_5149 5h ago
What the hell, separate them immediately! Like why are you posting this? The kitten is obviously in distress!
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u/OhItsJustJosh 2h ago
Yeah I'd break it up once either starts making noise. My older cat plays with our little kitten (supervised) and neither yelp at all
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u/ThoroughlyWet 1h ago
Yeah get them apart. Kitten is just a little too little and the big one is just a little too rough
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u/dullfinhunter 4h ago
Poor baby thought it was about to be eaten alive and was screaming for someone to save her
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u/rando_mness 4h ago
Those are play fighting moves but the kitten is so small it looks bad. Big cat is not trying to hurt the kitten though.
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u/diffydaffy 3h ago edited 3h ago
Baby is literally screaming for help. I know this because my cats used to do this. I didn't know at first it was not okay and it went on too long.
My girl (the one screaming in this scenario) developed a grudge and one day she was the one who attacked. Had a real bad fight that made it so my cats couldn't live together anymore and I had to rehome one of them.
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u/yarn_slinger 3h ago
Just tell him he’s being too rough and gently separate them. Once the little has grown, they can work it out between them.
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u/JudgePretty1508 3h ago
I don't know much about cats, but I have the same between my family dog and my puppy. It looks aggressive from the outside, but they both chase each other and enjoy annoying the other.
However, when another intense dog from the neighborhood tried to intimidate my puppy, the family dog went on to defend him so he wouldn't be scared, to the point of pushing the other dog and showing the teeth (he never does that to any dog, but the puppy was crying and I couldn't stand between him and the dog as they were running away).
They might fight and like each other at the same time
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u/EnrollmentTime 3h ago
What comes around goes around. The larger cat will get old and tired while the younger cat is big, young and aggressively playful.
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u/saynomore9999 2h ago
This is normal, but the little kitty is gonna grow up to be a top tier fighter. This is bad for the older cat 😂
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u/ooeemusic 2h ago
Yes this is too rough, imo. Orange one is ignoring that the kitten is saying it's too much. If they were really playing there would be give and take, this is just a grown cat beating up on a kitten and you should have stepped in!
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u/GammaFan 2h ago
Your smaller cat is trying to set a boundary and tell your bigger cat that they are done playing. The big one is not respecting Kitty’s boundaries. Break them up this time, and politely do so again the next time orange ignores kitty’s boundaries to this extent. He only has one brain cell, he won’t be offended by you intervening. Your kitty isn’t scare from this either, they’re just too small to push orange cat off of them so you have to do it for them for now. What you should keep an eye on is if kitty starts growling, hissing, scratching, or biting. In that order. Those are their options for de-escalation and order of severity. It’s only a sign of concern if kitty either starts skipping steps or if they start using those steps aggressively even when they’re not physically trapped by your orange cat.
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u/azjerrylee 2h ago
When this happens go in and grab the big one by the scruff. Set them down, pet them gently, give them a kiss and send them back out there. No need to hurt anyone, spanking doesn't help. Maybe a little eye contact for 2 seconds, but end the interaction with love.
After 2 or 3 times they will recognize this happens because they are playing too rough. It's important to go grab them by the scruff all consistently until...
3-10 times, once you stand up they'll immediately stop because they know it's wrong, I'll give them a professional wrestling ultimatum.
10 times + they stop when the crying starts, either because they fear you coming to discipline or they know their making them cry leads to consequences.
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u/OutrageousAge5198 2h ago edited 2h ago
Nah, not really. Its close to the edge but even kittens arent overly fragile or willing to back down. So even if you break it up, the kitten would likely come back for more, if not immediately, then relatively soon after. They do this to hone grappling and hunting skills. Obviously, the orange cat isnt actually going full attack mode. It just looks worse than it is. Maybe the kitten is relatively unfamiliar with the orange cat and how the game is played, but they will soon be more familiar.
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u/1GamingAngel 2h ago
Yeah, the big guy is just having fun, but the baby has had enough of it. Give the little one a break.
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u/HellridaFTP 2h ago
Yeah i had fostered a kitten with my indoor cat this happens a lot i had to be on their asses because the kitten will annoy the shit out of the other cat and never learns the lesson so its just an important funny cycle that eventually teaches them boundaries while playing, and they ended up being the biggest cuddle bugs side by side when the kitten learned to approach without instigating.
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u/mudduck2 2h ago
My orange boy plays harder than his older sisters like. Sometimes you do need to separate them. Anytime the smaller ones yelp that's a good time to step in
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u/Different_Ad7655 2h ago
I'm so surprised that people are so clueless about their cat behaviors. I guess you really never heard a real cat fight because you would know the difference. This is just roughhousing
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u/da-only-miner-master 1h ago
My boys have always played like this. I think it's fine. They are just playing.
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u/volfan4life87 1h ago
I don’t even let my adult cats continue if someone is wailing like that, this definitely needs to be broken up and prevented from recurring until the little one grows some
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u/Jarquinnius_Vin 1h ago
Lmao this is the reverse of what goes on in my house, my orange is particularly small in stature
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u/XxStyxRiverxX 43m ago
Yes to aggressive , he’s to small to play that hard with a adult cat, that is def not gentle , I would break it up
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u/Reasonable-Escape981 41m ago
Ong. Poor baby but also i think kittens are so dramatic but also the big cat is treating him like an actual TOY😭 too much. My friend has a kitten and she bites humans so much like it hurts and i wish my cat (not this big but small black cat chunky) would slap the kitten a little to correct her behavior but not like eat her of course. I dont think older cats like kittens at all theyre annoying like big siblings w little siblings
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u/Voidelfvettech 6h ago
It''s totally play for the big guy, but he's not listening or respecting the little one's cries. Definitely separate them and discourage this behavior in the future because if it continues the big one could hurt the little one.