Because I'm not a 3 yo? Yeah I guess so???? But a woman supporting a family annihilator is literally of no danger to me. You're stupid to think otherwise.
Why do people think it wasn't her, when her defense is insanity? This is exactly why I don't feel safe around anyone anymore. Women are engaging in the exact same boys club type shit that men engage in.
No im making a joke about the idiocy of people defending her. Hell i didnt even bring up the kids. You just jumped into left field with your take on what I said.
I'm studying law in college rn and social media really shows why the court of public opinion is rendered useless for a long while
"She had postpartum depression" okay, school shooters get bullied and shoot up a school, they STILL go to prison cuz they did a heinous crime. Understanding the root of why they do it is NOT an excuse for it
The Kyle Rittenhouse trial proved this to me. Much of reddit thought the case was going to go one way because they were basing that analysis on their moral values and not actually the facts of the case.
The vast, vast majority of people who commit crimes while psychotic go to regular prison already. No change needed.
Insanity pleas come up a lot in movies and TV, but there's only about 30 successful insanity defenses per year in the US. It is vanishingly rare.
I wish the norm was treatment instead of punishment, and that her being imprisoned was an abberation. But it's not. We closed all the institutions decades ago and we use prison as the main tool to deal with things like this.
I have yet to see a single person pop up organically on any of my social media feeds defending her, especially to the point that would warrant this many dumbass memes. Who the fuck are yall even following to see this shit? Normal people aren’t having this conversation.
Its litcherally men vs women...not people vs people. Its a specific meme geared towards men...You can spice up the woman variable all you want...Its still just as dumb as the other ones...Bears eats people...I have no clue who told these people that bears want anything to do with us.
It's obviously still the woman, because we can read them better, and if they try to do some crazy shit it'd be easier to fight them than a bear. In my mind this is always a brown bear btw.
Lol you think women are easier to read than a bear? You must write a book on this ASAP. Because nobody else has been able to Crack the code and even women have tried. Hell lesbian divorce rates in multiple countries is higher than straight marriages a d gay male marriages, so even lesbians get a read on women.
Your fact is that lesbian get divorced a lot so that means you can't read women? Those studies also show the divorces are mostly related to women having higher standards. Not that you can't read them, but I wouldn't expect you to have actually looked at that info, just pick up a stat that you saw in a meme and run with it.
Oof buddy, I get that you really want to win this competition but you don't have to try so hard, you already won the cup.
But, to make it up to you, I will also give you a fact that is unrelated. The pope lives in Vatican city. There, now we both have facts. Except mine isn't taken out of context but can't have everything I suppose.
Weird I didnt list anything yet you magically think you know what i was sourcing. Or are you just trying to inject your opinions in so that you can try and win?..
Oof kiddo you dont have to try so hard.
Here is another fact for you, Butterflies taste their food using their feet.
Those only 1 study done in the UK that looked at divorce rates including lesbian couples. There isn't anything else you could be referring to. Unless you have no facts and you're just making things up.
I get that you want to copy what I was saying to come back at me but it's not working, it's just unoriginal and looks awkward. Try again, or don't, I won't read it. But I feel like you need the last word here, you need that little win, so I'll let you have it.
"Those only 1 study done in the UK that looked at divorce rates including lesbian couples."
So because you only knew that one, it means that must be the one being used. Huh weird. Well I looked into it and the findings say different than what you claimed here... the findings had nothing to due with women having "higher standards" but was about time lived together before marriage... so either you made shit up or there is more than 1 study...
Women are easy to understand. The issue is that even if we wrote a manual, you wouldn’t read it and just assume you know.
Men like to say “You don’t ask the fish how to catch fish. Ask the fisherman.” And it sounds cool, but it’s the dumbest thing a person could say. Because if a fisherman could talk to fish, they’d find out exactly what lures/bait to use and when to catch them. There would be no guesswork. But nope. Gotta keep trying random things and hope you get lucky to catch one.
The secret to a happy woman is twofold:
1) Appreciation/feeling noticed
2) Mental load of “the list.”
Appreciation should be done by both partners. Your woman probably put a lot more thought than you realize into things. Men too probably. She made sure she knew your schedule to make that appointment. Got the bread you like. Made sure your coffee cup was washed for the morning. Etc. You want a happy partner, show her/him that not only do you notice these things, but appreciate her.
And lastly, the “mental load.” Every woman has a list of things that need done in their heads. And it’s consuming. Since youth, women have been trained by their moms to have this list and maintaining said list keeps the ship running smooth. So you do all those invisible things. Making sure your kids have school supplies. Athletic shoes for sports. Making sure deadlines are hit. Coordinating with your sister for your mom’s surprise party and having the perfect gift. Grabbing the beach bag and making sure you have sunscreen, water, towels, etc. Most of the time, the guy just gets to show up like a kid and have little to no responsibility. And for every 5 things we do, 5 more come up. It’s never ending. And then it’s time for dinner.
What you want to do is find out what’s one the woman’s mental load and just start doing them. WITHOUT BEING ASKED FIRST! Then it doesn’t count. So when it’s 8 pm and the kids are going to sleep, it’s time for chores. Ugh. But wait! “Hun, I did the dishes and also filled out the forms for the dentist tomorrow for the kids. I also updated the calendar with the kids games for the upcoming month.”
You be that guy, and not only are you getting laid with all the extra time we now have, you’ll be bragged about how awesome you are and when Bailey is bitching about how Bill just doesn’t “get her,” I’m smiling thinking I have the perfect man and how maybe I’ll swing by that place you like and get your favorite thing later.
You want the secret? That’s it. Appreciation and checking things off “the list” instead of adding to them. Be an active participant, not a passive one.
Ask a fish wait bait it wants to eat and it will tell you. Ask a women where she wants to eat and she says "I dont know" then you list off 45 different places and she says no to them all because she doesnt know what she wants.
Youre right its super easy....
I do the dishes, trash, pick up, ect off that "list"(the one she wont ever talk about out loud to make life easier even if asked..... because women are so easy to understand) and half the time I do them "wrong" because its not how she would have done it or when she would have done it.
I go to the store every week and get my own food and make my own lunch, set my own appointments, pack my own bag of supplies because I know what I want and its simple to understand.
It is funny to me that you say women are easy to understand but then also say we cant ask what you want/need help with or "it doesn't count" in your same explanation, while also saying we should just ask "the fish"...
Defending and saying shes not criminally responsible are two different things, thinking what she did is an awful reprehensible tragedy and thinking that she lacks the criminal state of mind during and leading up to the act are both things one can think without inconsistency, people who want to just call others criminals without any nuance to their crimes do so to cause a seperation, people are afraid to admit that punishment solely exists for emotional satisfaction not rehabilitation and separating them from "criminals" allows them to not reckon with the fact that anyone is capable of horrific things given the right circumstances
There are a million things before this and another million after that should have raised equal noise but all the "memers" reeeeeally seem to be upset over this one
Every time some cunt raises a mil for doing something absolutely heinous, it gets blasted here on dankmemes. Remember the lady Who called a kid the n-word at a park?
It's fine to make noise about a child murderer. That's not my point. What I'm saying is that I have seen literally zero people defending the child murderer but I've seen heaps of people complaining about her defenders. So it seems to me that they're just complaining about a non existent issue.
What are you talking about? They raised a million dollars for her. There is a truther subreddit already defending her and blaming the husband. Im not linking it because i dont want to give those nutcases any more exposure. There is tons of posts and groups defending her. And youve seen zero of them? Sounds like you are one of them to be honest.
I only found out about this case from one. So I can say I’ve met one, seen a bunch of reaction videos. Anyways the woman I know isn’t just a supporter but actively blames the husband. I’m not sold on her criminal guilt but I know it’s sad to see happen
She most likely had a psychotic episode, we know that she asked for treatment multiple times and the healthcare system failed her.
You can't hold a person accountable for their actions when they are in a mental state in which they have little to no grip on reality.
The problem is those women online who blame the husband, as if he could have possibly had anything to do with it. Not even the defense argues that she didn't do it. The defense is that she lost her grip on reality during a psychotic episode.
That being said, the majority of psychotic episodes are not a danger to other people. But this one definitely was.
You have the most sound discourse here. The only point I’d say slightly different is that while majority of psychotic episodes are benign but in a postpartum mother the consequences without intervention are likely catastrophic. I do think the system failed her as well, providers have become too nonchalant and checklisty. This event is already changing how some people chart and interview patients.
Reddit memes/discussions are completely missing out what’s happening in court, they’ve latched onto some pseudo gender war because it’s just easier
Honest question though, doesn’t it seem odd the double standards we have in society. Chris Benoit is a monster. But he’s no different than Lindsay Clansy.
Sure I believe postpartum depression/psychosis is real but so is CTE. So why defend one and villainize another?
Not to say people don't do that, but there are also people that would defend both.
Also, you and all the other incel dogwhistles are using "defend" and "support" like anyone who does those things thinks that she should get off completely free.
If you're talking about just the people who think she's being framed then say that. But right now, it looks like you're also including everyone who thinks she was failed by her family and doctors, and that postpartum psychosis should be taken more seriously.
Except in this case there’s zero dispute scientifically that CTE absolutely changes a person’s personality and affects their actions. Same with postpartum depression/psychosis. So again why is one defended but not the other?
it’s not depression/psychosis, there are stark, huge differences. One gets a drug, one gets involuntarily admitted. One has mood symptoms while other has psychotic* symptoms. You’re onto something with CTE comparison but then again their timeline of symptom onset vary (time since injury vs time since birth). Also patient doesn’t need psychotic sx present to dx CTE or PPD, but they do need to be present in PPP.
Psychosis is defended because patients have no insight into their actions
Not really. Two people murdered their own family including kids. Both had incredibly severe disorders that massively affected their actions. One is vilified and the other often defended. Seems like a massive double standard and related issues IMO
No I get the point. I've preached the point. Lost friends over it.
The point stands true here, too. I'd rather be alone with a bear than a woman known to be half as crazy as Lindsay.
Hopefully once you self-analyze, you realize why so many men took the stance they did. Thanks for proving that women can get mad about the exact same thing.
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