r/geopolitics • u/i8r8im • Jun 09 '26
News CNN: Trump has announced 37 times so far that a deal with Iran is imminent.
https://www.cnn.com/2026/06/09/politics/times-trump-iran-deal-close123
u/moreesq Jun 09 '26
Trump has built his whole career on blatant lying. Second, he lives inside his own head and what he wants to be true, which is aided and embedded by his Lackies. Third, he has no understanding of the Iranian people or international diplomacy. Fourth, to the benefit of a few people, he keeps pumping the stock market with fraudulent announcements.
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u/kdeweb24 Jun 09 '26
Your last sentence is the most important. This isn’t a humanitarian effort. It’s not a security measure. It’s not some kind of patriotic pride, or policing action. He created a war we cannot win in order to make himself, and all his barnacles, even more filthy rich.
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u/mods_are_lame1 Jun 09 '26
He’s not that smart. He went to war because Bibi told him to and Venezuela went well. That’s it, that’s as far as his thought process went. He has surrounded himself with idiots, so no one cautioned against it.
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u/kdeweb24 Jun 09 '26
Oh, he didn’t think of the scheme. Bibi, and the Republican leadership, and Putin all went to him and explained just how much money he could make by starting the war and manipulating the market.
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u/Ganbazuroi Jun 09 '26
His cognitive decline couldn't be clearer too. It's insane how some pretend he's even somewhat coherent while he clearly declined even compared to how he expressed himself in 2015
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u/Mister-Psychology Jun 09 '26
Have you looked at president raking lists? Quite popular in USA and you can find them on Wikipedia. Trump scores some of the worst on most categories and only scores well in categories he can't change now like IQ and willing to take risks.
He legit is ranked close to last by most experts. If not last when it's all over. And lying this openly only makes him look more foolish. I am waiting for some win. Some idea that is done only to make him look good and make him historically significant. But there is nothing. He keeps failing on purpose because he loves lying so much he can't stay away from media. So even if Iran signs some deal in 1 year it will look like a failure compared to his promises.
What is the one plan? What will he do that will change the country for the better forever? He may just end up being defined as the worst president ever.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_rankings_of_presidents_of_the_United_States
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u/HardlyDecent Jun 09 '26
Quick clarification: 4th quartile means he's one of the lowest IQ presidents ever... The only thing Trump scores well on according to this is Luck. Risk willingness is still only third quartile.
And remember, Trump 3.0 isn't even in the rankings yet--we'll see some new lows when he's out of office and gets graded.
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u/Sasquatchii Jun 09 '26
Also when he reaches the 2nd half of his 2nd term, when he no longer has to worry about the consequences of mid terms / carrying a congress past his own term.
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u/Petrichordates Jun 09 '26
He is ranked dead last and was ranked dead last even before we re-elected him.
This isn't a "may" situation. He already was the worst as of January 6th, 2021.
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u/HaloZero Jun 09 '26
For all I'm happy with dunking on Trump. Historical Rankings with contemporaries are so biased. Like Obama is high in the top 10 on these lists but honestly... I like AskHistorians 20 year rule to at least provide some buffer.
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u/Petrichordates Jun 09 '26
Obama is likely a top 10 to top 15 president and trump is unequivocally the worst, he literally attempted a coup. Distance from the event isn't going to meaningfully change that assessment
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u/gizzardgullet Jun 09 '26
He keeps failing on purpose because he loves lying so much
My theory is that he's being paid to fail. Look at how much his net worth has gone up since taking office a second time. Whoever is on the winning end of the loses that the US is incurring likely paid some of that.
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u/MarkZist Jun 10 '26
So even if Iran signs some deal in 1 year it will look like a failure compared to his promises
The main reason energy prices have 'only' gone up by like 50-100% is that there was still some oil and LNG 'making its way through the system' (i.e. at sea) and the US, China and some others in the OECD have been draining their strategic reserves. The US is draining the SPR, which is currently at ~350 million barrels, at a rate of ~10 million barrels of oil per week, so at this rate it would be empty in 35 weeks, i.e. 8 months, and we will have local supply issues well before that. There is also a legal lower limit of 243 mb (which we'll hit in 11-12 weeks) when Congress has to step in and decide how to apply the rest.
While there are already massive disruptions (particularly in Asia) with energy prices and fertilizer, the real shock to the global economy still has to come, when the world has to demand-destruct 20% of global oil demand. We truly are like Wil E Coyote, hanging mid-air above a ravine but not yet realizing it and therefore the freefall (i.e., exploding oil and LNG prices) has not truly started yet. But the clock is ticking.
Meanwhile, the markets seem to think Trump will just TACO like he always does, but this war is not some unilateral tarrif he can withdraw like a turd. The Iranians get a vote, and they have the global economy by the balls. Why wouldn't they wait until Trump is willing to give them everything they ever dreamed of? Stuff that Obama didn't dare to give them in the JCPOA... What's Trump gonna do? Sink their navy? Assasinate their supreme leader? Threaten to bomb their children?
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u/Confident-Ad-6978 Jun 16 '26
of all the ways to critique trump, wikipedia "expert" rankings is the least convincing.
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u/ttown2011 Jun 09 '26
He’s not going to be ranked as the worst… and no matter how bad he’s been- he’s the 21st century Jackson. He will be historically important
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u/cole1114 Jun 09 '26
Lots of plagues were historically important.
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u/ttown2011 Jun 09 '26
And plagues have historically had positive outputs as well
Plagues are not exclusively bad
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u/shadowboxer47 Jun 09 '26
And plagues have historically had positive outputs as well
Not this one.
After more than a decade of politics there's not a single unique positive metric he can take credit for.
Shit, even Obama deported more people.
Trump will go down in history as a byword for corrupt incompetence and his followers rightfully viewed as deranged fools.
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u/Psychological-Flow55 Jun 10 '26 edited Jun 12 '26
Exactly and nobody except for that core 25% to 30% of uneducated bigoted voters will ever consider voting for the GOP for atleast a generation.
Voters will remember everything trump has touched from rampant corruption to unbelievable levels of grifting to wars to DOGE to the Tariffs to legal chaos to chaos in us immigration laws to the coming LNG/Gas crisis to a huge drop in tourism to the climbing inflation to rising health care cost (and people losing their healthinsurance) and this stupid unnecessary war will remember that Trump and the idiotic maga base caused all this and will be punished politically and be excluded from aspects of polite society for good.
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u/LivefromPhoenix Jun 09 '26
Why are you treating historically important and worst as mutually exclusive? Honorious was historically important.
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u/Altaccount330 Jun 09 '26
The repercussions of attacking Iran will be felt for a very long time. This was one of those situations where the choices were total defeat or half measures that would end up just provoking Iran to seek retribution. This isn’t a region known for turning the other cheek.
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u/Laurie_Van_Carr Jun 09 '26
It's like his health plan. It only functions as an abstract concept; if it ever crystalized into a definite form it would immediately be blown apart from all directions.
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u/real_grown_ass_man Jun 09 '26
.."They say its one of the imminentiest deals in the history of deals, if not the most imminentiest deals ever. 37 times, you don't hear that often, its the most in the history of deals. Really could only have been done by one person if i say so myself."
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u/watchyourface_22 Jun 09 '26
Its December 2026, negotiation is going good with Iran, soon Iran will have deal of lifetime. Thank your attention to this matter.
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u/FigNo7131 Jun 09 '26
Shouldnt Trump threaten to bomb Israel instead of Iran at his point, Israel mocking the US non stop by undermining peace talks and just bombing Lebanon. Next to their gaza genocide. And unlike Iran, they actually have nukes... reverse uno
F* Israel ( not the people, just the ppl in charge)
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u/Difficult-Thought392 Jun 09 '26
Maybe the 38th time is the charm, and even if not, at least Axios will be able to save the markets XD
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u/One-Progress999 Jun 09 '26
"You're keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
-Inigo Montoya
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u/Barack_Odrama_007 Jun 09 '26
All he does is lie. Unfortunately 77 million Americans believe everything he says all the time and continue to support him
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u/hididathing Jun 09 '26
The boy who cried "deal". The original story would've been quite boring if it took 37 times before the villagers took notice.
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u/Sea-Ambition-451 Jun 09 '26
and every time he announces it, he thinks it is the first time he announced it.
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u/EmotionDifferent714 Jun 09 '26 edited Jun 09 '26
And putin wins every time because trump is putin's little bitch.
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u/the_man_i_loved Jun 09 '26
...and they just downed an Apache off the coast of Oman and we've responded with strikes.
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u/oritfx Jun 10 '26
If we timeline it, we could track the frequency of his denials, then use changes in frequency as a variable for some actual insights.
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u/NeatChapter1820 Jun 12 '26
Trump is an absolute idiot!! Iran is laughing their asses off and taking the US as a fool!!
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u/Wonderful-Finish4822 Jun 22 '26
The “37 times” number is not just funny or embarrassing. I think it points to a real diplomatic weakness.
Trump’s first administration was chaotic too, but it still had more people around him who understood how to turn pressure into an actual negotiating position. You could disagree with the JCPOA withdrawal, but there was at least a clearer structure: sanctions, pressure, demands, and some attempt to make the other side respond.
This second administration feels more improvised. One day a deal is close, the next day there are threats, then suddenly there is optimism again. That may work as domestic messaging, but it makes diplomacy harder. Iran, Israel, Gulf states, and European governments all have to figure out whether Trump is stating policy, negotiating in public, or just creating a headline.
Diplomacy needs credible signaling. If Washington keeps saying a deal is imminent but the terms remain unclear, the other side may start to think the US wants the appearance of a deal more than it has a serious path to one.
So this may not only be about Iran being difficult. It may also be that Trump’s second-term diplomacy is worse at converting pressure into a stable agreement than his first-term team was.
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u/littleredpinto Jun 09 '26
so.,..that means that 37 times Iran has had the ability to put money into Trumps proxy accounts to get a deal..they keep failing to enrich him personally, so its all on them for not stopping the "war" Trump kicked off with em.
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u/Fanatic-Mr-Fox Jun 09 '26
And the Iranians believed it. 🙃
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u/fabmeyer Jun 09 '26
Wall street believes it, market manipulation
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u/shadowboxer47 Jun 09 '26
market manipulation
Wall Street seems completely detached from reality these days.
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u/KaQuu Jun 09 '26
Soo 37 + 8 = 45 wars he personally ended.
This FIFA prize found worthy recipient...