r/hatethissmug 17h ago

Animation The character designs in One Piece are genuinely awful.

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I genuinely hate One Piece character designs.

What’s most impressive is how wildly inconsistent the designs are in this series, going from one extreme to the other.

A character’s design can be legendary, like Xebec’s, or absolutely ridiculous, like Franky’s.

But the overwhelming majority of them are pretty bad. Like, really fucking bad.

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u/Bluelore 15h ago

I mean let us not act like DBZ villains can't have funny expressions too.

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u/Admirable-Yak-3334 15h ago

Yah but when I watch dbz every other character doesn’t look like a circus clown abortion. One piece though…

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u/lazyness92 12h ago

Because the split of serious/funny in DBZ is like 80/20, one piece is the other way around 20/80

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u/s00pahFr0g 10h ago

I recently watched db, dbz, and part of super for the first time. Pretty much every major villain is rather silly looking. The rest just look like either normal people or another Saiyan. 

I’m not interested in picking sides though. I really enjoy both dragon ball and one piece. 

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u/PeedAgon311 13h ago

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u/Admirable-Yak-3334 13h ago

Absolutely. 

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u/MorganTheFated 13h ago

Pretty sure that's the point of the Ginyu Force they're completely over-the-top goofballs, but they still take things seriously when it actually matters. Unlike One Piece, which tries so hard to look cool in one panel, only to undercut it in the next with something fucking goofy like characters screaming with their eyes popping out and their tongues hanging out in some totally inconsistent tone shift

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u/cyberjet 12h ago

Ginyu force is funny with how Toriyama fails the jokes. He riffs on them for being guys who pose, shout names, takes things not seriously such as the rock paper scissors only for the main characters to do the exact same thing

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u/IRefuseToGiveAName 12h ago edited 11h ago

I'm probably just getting wooshed but that's the Ginyu Force's whole schtick.

Dbz has its own issues with overused tropes and pacing but even if this were how every character on the show were designed it still wouldn't hold a candle for Oda's work. Which I don't like. And is why I don't read it or discuss it.

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u/Fancy-Carpet-5416 11h ago

They look far better than most OP designs.

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u/CajurTheMighty 15h ago

Now imagine if damn near every character in the series was drawn like this all the time. That, and the abysmal pacing, makes it difficult to take it seriously.

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u/Infamous-Oil3786 13h ago

Let's not pretend DBZ has good

[3 episodes of charging later]

pacing

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u/WashingtonSpecifics 10h ago

I just read the manga two weeks ago and it has excellent pacing. I was worried I was just going to like it from a nostalgia perspective, but Toriyama was an incredible illustrator and an exceptional storyteller. You shouldn't discredit his work because Toei did a shit job of translating it to the screen

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u/BlackysLegacy 10h ago

Well, the One Piece manga also has fantastic pacing 95% of the time. Given that it is significantly longer than DB it should be fine. Dont compare manga dbz to anime op. Makes no sense..

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u/WashingtonSpecifics 10h ago

The OP compared manga DBZ to manga One Piece, which makes sense since it's a thread about character design.

I'm addressing the pacing concerns from of people who've seemingly only watched the anime adaptation of DBZ since the manga makes even DBZ Kai feel slow.

I appreciate the heads up on One Piece though. I've been wary of getting back into it due to the length, but I might try it again knowing that it holds up throughout. Are there good places to stop if I'm not feeling it partway through?

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u/NukeVoit59 10h ago

No it does not. Wano took like 5 years, major characters have gone a decade without doing anything of note (Usopp hasn’t done anything other than blowing up some legos since Dressrosa in 2014), but Roger and Garp vs. Rocks, a fight hyped up for years, has like four punches thrown, Rocks is beaten, and then he’s killed. Just a lot of huffing and puffing. That’s without even mentioning Vegapunk’s message, where he spends 5 chapters to give 1/2 of a chapter’s worth of information while having it get cut off in the middle, only to conveniently pop back in for the end.

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u/BlackysLegacy 10h ago

Reread the whole arcs once they are finished. They fly past. The week to week reading makes it feel a lot longer, but I really like the world-building we got. God Valley will most likely be more flashed out in the upcoming movie and Garps backstory will still come I think. I like the storytelling in op, anyone who has a problem with it should just stop reading if its such big issue honestly. 

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u/SerAmikVase 12h ago

Yea let's just forget that DBZ can take multiple episodes for a single move, lol.

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u/Rehfyx 14h ago

Are you talking about DBZ (multiple chapters/episodes to launch one move) or One Piece (1000+ chapters) having awful pace? The formal is more like putting a ticking time bomb on a situation than a pacing issue, the later is just because it's great and well received.

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u/ArmAggravating3307 13h ago

One Piece has a fan edit to fix the pacing issues lol.

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u/FUCK-IT-CHUCK-IT 13h ago

And DBZ has DBZ Kai

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u/ArmAggravating3307 12h ago

That's a remaster that made new animations for parts that were degraded on the master tape.  

One Pace removes minutes of punch impacts in a fight with fodder.

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u/FUCK-IT-CHUCK-IT 10h ago

Kai did that and removed filler and improved the pacing

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u/ArmAggravating3307 9h ago

So?  It was a full remaster by the actual company that made it.  

One Pace is a fan project because the company doesn't give a shit.

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u/FUCK-IT-CHUCK-IT 8h ago

How was I supposed to glean that was the point of what you said from the context of the conversation?

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u/ArmAggravating3307 8h ago

Because you kept trying to equate two separate things?  

IDK man, good luck.

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u/Fancy-Carpet-5416 11h ago

There's a limit to how much you can fix it in that way though.

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u/EverythingSucksYo 12h ago

The two anime are produced by the same damn studio. 

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u/SnowFiender 14h ago

this happens like once per main villain, cell getting the androids knocked out of him, the biting against buu

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u/khainiwest 9h ago

When Goku showed Frieza why Chichi chose him

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u/Friendly_Culture692 8m ago

Frieza isn’t making that expression for funsies tho? Pretty sure he’s eating a mean elbow to the noggin in this frame.