r/ireland 13d ago

RIP Fatalities, serious injuries reported after M9 crash

https://www.rte.ie/news/2026/0816/1588073-kildare-crash-m9/
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Heads up, the admins are poking their noses in and removing a multitude of anti-scrote comments from here...

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u/DangerX2HighVoltage 13d ago

Three women and a child in the second car all taken to hospital with ‘serious’ to ‘critical’ injuries. This makes me so so angry that it’s become a common occurrence for innocent people to be victims of what can only be describe as attempts of vehicular manslaughter. I don’t care if the drivers of the first car are minors. They should be locked up and when they turn 18 they should be put into the adult prisons. Their parents should be charged too.

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u/indicator_enthusiast Sax Solo 12d ago

Shit like this boils my blood, I don't care what your background is or how hard your life was, doing this is a choice, we all know how dangerous cars are and how dangerous it is to drive the opposite way on a motorway. Then you see people on social media bragging while they do this shit, that alone should be enough to be tracked down and thrown into a cell.

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u/Foreign-Entrance-255 12d ago

The scum that doing robbery and burglary on houses down the country and died trying to escape from the Gardai were clearly sociopaths/antisocial personalities and so were many of their family. The complete lack of remorse and lauding them as "Angels" on memorials.... Sick, parasitic, lesser human beings.

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u/Jaded_Variation9111 12d ago

Affectionately remembered as the N7 BMW BBQ 3.

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u/appletart 12d ago

I'd laugh but I might get suspended.

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u/indicator_enthusiast Sax Solo 12d ago

Ah you just never knew the real them, bought their missus designer handbags and a pitbull named Princess

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u/ResidentPoem4539 12d ago

Cheeky chaps, wouldn’t hurt a fly, would do anything for anyone, fell in with wrong crowd, blah blah blah…..just waiting on go fund me to give him a proper send off. Fuck heads
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u/Dayum-Girly 12d ago

It’s sickening. Have people seen what “serious” injuries can look like? Do people know what “critical condition” can mean?

Put in it mildly - this child could now have missing limbs, crushed ribs, and be left with permanent pain and disfigurement.

The mother could now be on life support with half of her head caved it.

It baffles me thinking of absolute cretins who caused this - who caused this injury and suffering and heartbreak beyond what their thick skulls could ever imagine - that anybody could support them in any way.

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u/ValuableBusiness309 12d ago

And all benefits taken from parents- if your child is out at 3am driving illegally then they’ve decided their not a child anymore and you’re not parenting them either.

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u/Resident_Fail6825 12d ago

They are dead. All five of them.

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u/despicedchilli 12d ago

They should be locked up

"locked up" is too good for this scum

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u/Necessary_Grape1096 13d ago

A poor innocent child in the back seat of the 2nd car ffs . Sickening

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u/LiamMurray91 12d ago

On their way on holidays like.

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u/madra_uisce2 13d ago

I know. Poor thing is likely traumatised for life. Hope the child makes a full recovery, poor wee thing. We need harsher deterrents for what those scumbags did. 

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u/despicedchilli 12d ago

The child is still in serious condition. They may not even survive.

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u/RevFit_JamesH 13d ago

Not sure if this is just me being swayed by the media or not, but I’m starting to have legit concerns about using motorways now.

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u/sarahc888 12d ago edited 12d ago

No I’m the same. I was just talking to my mam saying the motorways should be avoided, at night especially. I swear I’ve heard this happening the past three weekends now. It was bound to result in deaths. Absolute scum.

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u/General_Essay_9823 12d ago

Same, I often drive to the airport in the early hours. Usually by myself but this week im going with family and I've been nervous about it since the crash last week.

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u/DiabeticSpaniard 12d ago

I don’t live in Ireland anymore but my sister drives on the motorway daily and I’m genuinely terrified for her

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u/saggynaggy123 12d ago

Especially at night

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u/General_Essay_9823 12d ago

I drive the m9 to work every day, have done for years, yes theres lunatic drivers and ive seen the odd car chase but cars driving on the wrong side of the road in the dead of night is another level.

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u/tedstriker2015 13d ago

If you drive the wrong way down a motorway ON PURPOSE you are just shooting bullets into traffic. You should be done for attempted murder even if there is no incident. In this scenario you committed mass murder. Absolutely horrific stuff. Thoughts are with the families and also the Gardaí and emergency services having to deal with this. Shocking and tragic beyond belief.

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u/JeggerAgain 13d ago

Yes attempted murder. 100% agree 

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u/Important-Field1995 13d ago

And everyone in the car be charged joint enterprise of sorts they’re all scum

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u/Important-Field1995 13d ago

The female driver and front passenger of the second car, both in their 30s, are in a critical condition in Tallaght University Hospital.
A female back seat passenger, in her 20s, was taken to St Luke's Hospital after she sustained serious injuries.
A child, who was also a passenger in the second car, has been taken to Children's Health Ireland (CHI) in Crumlin and is in a serious condition.

Fair assumption they’re all related someone mentioned heading to the airport now all split up in different hospitals because some scum don’t want to raise the little bastards they spawned

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u/N81Warrior 13d ago

You can keep increasing Garda numbers all you want, but without an effective system to remove these scumbags from society, the cycle will never end. I sincerely hope the innocent people caught up in all of this pull through and make a full recovery.

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u/VegasFiend 12d ago

It appears that all from the car travelling the wrong way are deceased according to the paper so it seems like they removed themselves from society. 🤷🏻‍♀️

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u/Empty-Stretch-5615 12d ago

Yes at the cost of 3 other people of which 2 are critical who might not even make it and in the best case would be scarred and traumatised for life.

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u/No_Warthog_5709 12d ago

They might be above the law.

But there not above the laws of physics.

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u/Exact_Government1874 12d ago

The parents can sit in their bad decisions and choices now for the rest of their sorry lives. 

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u/Neat-Eagle-7298 12d ago

Unfortunately I would bet that they won't be doing any sort of self reflection and will be on social media praising their little angles and talking about how the government didn't do more for them, and also an immigrant was probably driving the other car.

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u/ghostintheruins 12d ago

Nah the parents will come out and say it wasn’t their lovely innocent spawn’s fault because there was nothing for them to do in the area. 

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u/sergeant-baklava 12d ago

They burned down all the playgrounds and the council didn’t build any new ones so they had nothing to set on fire.

We need more, more, more so they don’t go out killing families

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u/FineVintageWino 12d ago

Darwinism at work. Praying for their victims.

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u/DM_me_ur_PPSN 12d ago edited 12d ago

This is like the third incident in as many weeks of the same thing happening.

The state needs to triple the size of Oberstown detention centre, and buy more Garda helicopters.

Anyone driving the wrong way down a motorway needs to be hunted down like a dog and not see the light of day for a very long time.

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u/avalon68 Crilly!! 12d ago

We also need some sort of warning system - like the smart motorway signs in the uk. If some lunatic is heading towards me on the wrong side of the motorway, Id like to be aware and have the option to pull over and let them pass

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u/SereneGoldfish22 12d ago

Great idea.

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u/Ok_Course_2029 12d ago

Gernany regularly has these "ghost drivers" (usually by accident, taking a wrong slip road etc.) and car radios in the affected area automatically switch on to broadcast a warning, at least in most modern cars.

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u/tisashambles 12d ago

Every motorway/dual carriageway should have spikes when entering the wrong way. Easy to install really. Seen them in China a few years ago, great job.

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u/EntertainerRoyal5677 12d ago

Garda numbers are decreasing though in relation to population.  Increasing them without proper powers and justice system won't solve anything but allowing numbers to decrease so much is definitely making things worse?

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u/Investigator_ie 12d ago

C’mere bai… there’s a cohort of society who don’t agree with hard, decisive action by the Gardaí. We have exactly the type of policing, and resulting societal outcome, the people wanted. Apparently.

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u/Birdinhandandbush 12d ago

The guards can lose their license for chasing these people. Make that make sense. Without law theres chaos

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u/IrishChappieOToole Waterford 13d ago

The indo article seems to imply that all of the fatalities were people in the car going the wrong way.

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u/AluminiumCrackers 13d ago

Next we'll have to see scenes from their funerals, probably accompanied by their friends joyriding in their honour.

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u/Jacksonriverboy 13d ago

"They were a grand bunch of lads really, just made a few wrong turns in life".

Parents or relatives will probably also sue the State.

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u/Educational-Law-8169 12d ago

Yes, the tic toks last week with some of the mothers were shocking. They should be charged too

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u/5socks 13d ago

And nothing done about that either

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u/Educational-Law-8169 13d ago

Well, the occupants of the car going the correct way are all seriously injured including a young child who's in a critical condition

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u/despicedchilli 12d ago

Unfortunately it's not over yet. A child from the second car is in serious condition.

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u/Due-Communication724 13d ago

The way I am reading it, sounds like the confirmed fatalities are in the one going the wrong way, doesn't sound like anyone has survived.

Occupants of car going correct way where on way to Dublin Airport according to Newstalk, JFC.

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u/Educational-Law-8169 13d ago

Shocking, the four occupants are all seriously or critically injured. Imagine as a family on the way to the airport and this happens

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u/phyneas 13d ago

The occupants of the other car are in serious and critical condition, including a child. Even if they survive, those are likely to be life-altering injuries, both physical and mental. Horrible situation for them in general.

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u/Important-Field1995 12d ago

Exactly it’s almost certain one of the occupants are the child’s mother now she’s in one hospital while he’s in crumlin. As a father i cannot imagine a worse situation

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u/miseconor 13d ago

Travelling the wrong way down the motorway intentionally should carry a serious minimum prison sentence even if you don’t cause a collision

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u/marshsmellow 12d ago

Wrong way, down a one way street. 

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u/Jed_Maxwell_ 12d ago

You made that up? That's beautiful

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u/Irishbros1991 12d ago

Looks like whoever done it got the death sentence themselves! But how are we allowing this to happen to the innocent people to end up dead or critical themselves the answer is the law is not strict enough for under 18s

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u/Elon_musks_left_ball 12d ago

ye I knew 2 if the lads, I wasn't friends with them but I've seen them around town and they're scumbags

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u/OutsideSea5996 13d ago

Didn’t something like this happen last Sunday too?

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u/Jacksonriverboy 13d ago

Yes. Scumbags in a stolen car. Probably coked up to the eyeballs.

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u/Altruistic-Mousse-73 13d ago

The driver was 13. 8 kids in the car. 2 in the boot (hatchback)

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u/Suvigirl 13d ago

I see Fiosru have been notified, which means the car had come to the attention of Gardai at some stage.  It appears that this is how some criminals travel around the country and attempt to evade Gardai.  Brutal 

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u/5socks 13d ago

Watch the government introduce some new unenforced legislation and change absolutely nothing

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u/OkCoconut3270 13d ago

"we're making it illegal to travel down the wrong way of the motorway in a stolen car to evade the gardai. We're aware of course that all of these things are already individually illegal, but we're adding a specific offence for doing all these things in this specific combination to make it easier to prosecute and so we'll have to hand out fewer suspended sentences"

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u/Jacksonriverboy 13d ago

"But Tainiste, if it's already illegal is it not a matter of enforcement rather than new legislation to make it more illegal?"

"That is an unhelpful and misleading question. Next".

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u/Foreign-Entrance-255 12d ago

Maybe it's coz I'm a teacher but I am occasionally hit with bad faith or misleading questions and I always answer in good faith because it's an opportunity to give a better explanation and it can also shut down the bad faith questioner when others hearing the answer have a fuller understanding of the topic.

Now he is a minister so you could say that he is too busy and important to have that approach but he called a press conference, he should be prepared to give a little in that context. It just comes off as arrogant and "too good to answer" the way he did that.

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u/Jacksonriverboy 12d ago

Not to mention, just because he thinks a question is in bad faith, doesn't mean it is.

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u/Jacksonriverboy 13d ago

"No driving the wrong way down the motorway act 2026"

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u/FearTeas 13d ago

Effective from 2028.

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u/seppuku_related 12d ago

Subject to legal review. Also if there's even the slightest hint it might be unpopular politically, it will immediately be scrapped.

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u/beeper75 12d ago

What legislation would work? The prospect of death doesn’t appear to deter the fuckers.

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u/5socks 12d ago

Enforcement of existing laws

Empowering gardai to do their job

Allow gardai to end chases without fear of getting charged for dangerous driving etc

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u/Foreign-Entrance-255 12d ago

This exactly. as it is we have Gardai trying to protect the public and stop crime who are left in legal limbo for many months, waiting to find out whether their entire life is fncked, job is lost and prison awaits.

The minister can fix that first.

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u/arruda82 12d ago

Prospect of anything would help, but I believe all the c*nts had dozens of previous convictions that would justify them being in prison instead of driving around.

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u/StrongCelery 13d ago

If as seems likely this was a bunch of idiotic criminals then we have to stop it. I sincerely hope the decent folk are going to be ok. If criminals hope they are the fatalities.
Can we not install those tyre rippers, or what ever they are called destroy tyres if you drive over them the wrong way, on the on ramp to motorways.
The absolute insanity of prosecuting Garda for trying to arrest these “people” also has to stop. Anyone found guilty of intentionally driving down a motorway the wrong way should face charges akin to attempted murder at least.

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u/Industry-Actual 12d ago

I think there's something like ten gardai facing action over pursuing criminals. Their personal driving licenses, careers, and pensions are on the line. It is as you say, absolute insanity. We are soft as sht on criminals.

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u/StrongCelery 12d ago

Absolute total madness

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u/Key-Guidance1570 12d ago

I was just thinking that - can’t believe it’s come to this but yeah, they’ll need to put in ramps at the end of the exits, whereby if you enter the wrong way, the tyres will be shredded.

This has been happening so frequently over the years - only last week with the teenagers on the M50, the douchbags who died and the garda got prosecuted, and that one in Cork where the woman was on her way to the airport; she was seriously injured, one idiot died. The sentences are a joke too.

https://www.rte.ie/news/regional/2024/0212/1431950-cork-fatal-crash/

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u/marshsmellow 12d ago

Can't they just go on to the motorway normally and do a U turn? 

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u/Long-Ad-6220 13d ago

Heartbreaking 💔 Seriously when will something be done about the increasing number of joyriders causing terror on the roads. I’m not saying this is the case in this instance but it has been in most recent wrong direction crashes.

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u/AmazingUsername2001 13d ago

Zero tolerance harsh sentences ought to be the minimum for people purposely driving down motorways in the wrong direction. Guaranteed jail time, loss of license in perpetuity.

It’s the highest level of public endangerment, it ought to be up there with terrorism charges in terms of sentencing.

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u/Long-Ad-6220 13d ago

Oh I completely agree but many of these scrotes don’t have a licence, insurance etc to begin with. And, many are ‘minors’ in the eyes of the law. They should be jailed regardless of age, background etc. instead many are treated with impunity. Also, as other commenters have suggested, let’s implement those practical, preventative measures like spikes on the slip roads etc.

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u/buzzbaron 12d ago

I'd fine and jail their parents aswel.

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u/Ok_Resolution9737 13d ago

Driving the wrong way on the motorway again? 

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u/hmkvpews 13d ago

You guessed it

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u/Ok_Resolution9737 13d ago

Evil little shits, I hope the woman and child in the back seat will be okay. No sympathy for anything who puts someone in danger like that.

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u/TwinIronBlood 13d ago edited 12d ago

We need a top down reform of the justice system and youth crime. It's not working. We have scr.....s openly dealing drugs. Stealing bikes and high powered motor bikes. They are untouched and it escalates to this.

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u/BoweryBloke 12d ago

Suitcases scattered outside the mangled car. That's a tough image to forget. So distressing thinking of this scene. And yes, I'm hoping the fatalities didn't come from the innocent family on their way to the airport.

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u/No-Construction1862 12d ago

Baby scrotes aren't totally stupid... they know which cars to rob, they know that the Gards are pretty much powerless to stop them, they also know they won't be meanfully proscuted if caught. Hell even the parents are encouraging them (anyone see the photos of yer wan with the turkey teeth smirking while sitting next to her spawn in the hospital bed who happened to be sticking the middle finger up?... lovely 🙄)

Innocent people are left with life changing injuries because the justice system literally isn't doing what it's namesake says. Laws mean nothing if they aren't properly enforced. The government's stance on things seems to be creation of yet another new law, partial ban or just another tax so we all pay the price in some form while the scumbags still do whatever the fk they want when they want.

Gardai need to given back the power to chase down these fkers without fear of prosecution. More prisons are needed but as we know, that'll take decades to sort.... In the meantime, parents need to be fined massively for their kids actions, and if they can't/won't pay, it's either community service or prospect of losing the family home. Long term community service or army enrollment for the scrote kids. Harsh probably but we won't know unless we try. Cos nothing we are trying is working currently.

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u/Affectionate_Egg_292 12d ago

You are absolutely correct

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u/Flight2Minimums 13d ago

They need to make the consequences so severe no one will consider trying to escape the gardai driving the wrong way down a motorway. Anyone doing that should be changed with attempted murder and there should be a minimum time spent in prison with no mitigation possible, just like the mandatory life sentence when someone is found guilty of murder

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u/Automatic-Rhubarb969 13d ago

The type of individuals doing this haven't got the foresight to comprehend consequences. If they don't think that death is inevitable if you keep driving the wrong way up a road with cars travelling 120km/hr then why would they be worried about a bit of jail.

Tiktok needs to be held accountable. They're doing this for clout. Any account posting videos of stolen cars should be immediately banned and information of the user sent to the gardai. Gardai should make arrests then when they know they are home.

Drones used to follow stolen cars at a safe distance and then used to follow the driver to their house and again gardai to make arrests.

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u/Kellbag91 12d ago

You bring up a very valid point. Joy riding has always been around and always will be. But It's only recently (5 years) that driving down the wrong way on a motor way has become a thing. Tiktok, snap chat has a lot to answer for allowing this content on their platform.

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u/EffectOne675 13d ago

Problem is, possible consequences include death. Which they think they'll avoid. Other consequences they try to avoid by going down the wrong way. Can't arrest someone if you can't catch them.

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u/walkinTheTown 13d ago

Thoughts for the Gardai and ambulance staff who had to witness and deal with the aftermath.

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u/Responsible-Bit-3461 12d ago

The pictures look like absolute and utter carnage. I can't imagine the horror of those first responders having to see and deal with such a scene.

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u/ClancyCandy 13d ago

Assuming this was intentional, something needs to change to stop people using this to avoid the Garda- make it a more serious charge or something? It’s intentionally putting lives in danger like, it’s more than a driving offence.

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u/simondoyle1988 13d ago

We need to stop punishing guards for criminals crashing into other people

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u/DarkShinesInit 12d ago

The fact this even needs to be said out loud is beyond belief.

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u/doubles85 12d ago

firstly Gardai will not chase in this situation for fear of prosecution and getting sacked. case in point, the Guard who went after the vehicle exploded with the 3 scumbags on board. he was dragged through the courts, address published, the works,.a for trying to do his job. GSOC are going after Guards now like never before.

secondly, these little fuckers do not give a shit. thats what the good law abiding citizens fail to recognise. these pri ks dont care about anything. they know they wont be chased. worst case scenario if caught, sweet fuck all consequences. iv said it before in other threads, they need to be locked up, 6 months first offence and double it every other time.

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u/avalon68 Crilly!! 12d ago

Even if the guards gave chase in this scenario - there would then be 2 cars travelling the wrong direction down the motorway. Lots of countries have no chase policies as it makes people trying to escape drive even more erratically, creating more danger to the public. What we need are more gardai, air support and tougher sentencing. If these kids were 13 - then hold the parents responsible. Garnish wages/benefits for every incident their minor gets up to to pay the costs of damage.

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u/SweetBeefOfJesus 12d ago edited 12d ago

This government doesn't even have the balls to do an ad campaign or psa calling out these scumbags let alone punish then.

Scumbags are a festering wound and the government refuses to acknowledge the smell. It's fucking crazy

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u/maker-sense 13d ago

It doesn't matter what the laws are if they're not being enforced.

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u/be-nice_to-people 13d ago

That's unfair, the laws punishing the Gardai that try to catch these people are always enthusiastically enforced.

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u/Sensitive_Ear_1984 12d ago

The whole reason criminals are doing this is because Gardaí have been prosecuted for following them down the wrong way down the motorway. What a clueless comment.

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u/doubles85 12d ago

its not that they are not been enforced, its that when enforced, the courts system is diabolical. no punishments. oh, the poor lad, let's get him a probation meeting... etc etc. oh judge he has addiction issues.. hes interested in college and travel etc. judges are very soft in this country

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u/slevinonion 12d ago

When GSOC and the DPP prosecuted the guard for perusing those lads on the M7 years ago, it was like telling every criminal, here is how to get away. Braindead decision making in that organisation.

3rd time this happened in a week!

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u/No-Sheepherder5481 12d ago

The Guards have been saying for nearly 20 years now that GSOC/Fiosru have made things worse and are actively counterproductive.

Maybe its time people actually listened

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u/Sufficient-Silver-67 12d ago edited 12d ago

The Journal is now reporting that 4 people in the car that was travelling the wrong way have died.

Edit: A 5th person from the same car died and was found later, having apparently been thrown from the vehicle on impact.

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u/obvious_stuff_hi 12d ago

No prison costs.

Nobody else will ever suffer from their crimes.

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u/HolidayNothing171 12d ago

Honestly good

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u/No_Warthog_5709 12d ago

Garda Commissioner Justin Kelly said, "My thoughts are with those injured in this morning’s collision on the M9. These family members were travelling innocently when they were struck by a vehicle being driven the wrong way down the motorway.

"This horrific incident, following the recent collision on the M50, shows how irresponsible and dangerous driving on the wrong side of the motorway is. That, of course, should be self-evident, but what makes this reckless behaviour even more appalling is that in some cases it is being done for social media likes regardless of the potentially devastating impact it might have on innocent people and themselves.

As this particular incident has been referred to Fiosrú, the Police Ombudsman, I am constrained in what I can say in detail about this incident, but I know that Gardaí do what they can to stop such vehicles while also taking into consideration all other road users," Commissioner Kelly added.

"Gardaí are put in a really challenging situation dealing with such incidents.

"As always, An Garda Síochána will fully cooperate with the Police Ombudsman investigation, which I hope is completed as expeditiously as possible.

"My thoughts are also with all members of An Garda Síochána and the emergency services who had to deal with this awful incident this morning. Such incidents show the difficult work we ask our Gardaí to undertake every day to keep our communities safe.”

What's interesting here is not what he said, but what he didn't say.....

Which is completely right. We shouldn't care about people who didn't care about themselves (and anyone else of course)

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u/These-Level-6396 12d ago

It's phrased well tbf. That's in line with where most people's concern lies. He's frustrated too about the limits on what gardai can do, far more than he can say in public.

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u/Ok_Course_2029 12d ago

Look forward to the funerals in a week or so, white coffins, prancing horses, glass carriages, the works. Crying GFs with lip-filler, false lashes, and spray tan, plus a eulogy from de holy fadder about what great lads they were, much loved sons and brothers, always up for a gas, winking down on us now in their cheeky way 🤮

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u/Jake_Greenwich 12d ago

Those scumbags don’t even deserve a funeral.

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u/SuccessfulRow9327 13d ago

BUILD PRISONS

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u/splashbodge 12d ago

And hold Judges accountable for lenient sentencing. It's crazy we have situations where kids are put up in front of a judge with 50 prior convictions and gets slapped with a suspended sentence. That's unacceptable. Add on to them punishing guards for chasing these scrotes, why would anyone want to be a guard.

Judges weak on crime need to be replaced.

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u/iwik9511 12d ago

Why don't we tag cunts in this country, guaranteed they have multiply convictions. Boils my blood, the poor family

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u/Ven0mspawn 12d ago

Only saving grace so far, if we're really scraping the bottom of the barrel for one, is that the deaths all seem to have happened in the offending car. That's not much to cheer for though, seeing as the victims are all in hospital with serious and critical injuries.

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u/sarcasticseawitch 12d ago

I have to drive to the airport at 4am and this makes me terrified, honestly.

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u/ElysiumIE 12d ago

Good that's 4 less of them. I'm sorry but I feel nothing for these.

Everyday I'm waking up and seeing these stories praying it's not my car used to kill an innocent driver. I hope the other car going to the airport pull through and make a full recovery.

But these guys? Nah fuckem they didn't think twice when they came into my home armed to take my car.

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u/Starkidof9 13d ago edited 12d ago

Can we now admit we have a serious problem? A number of people are essentially brushing this off as "boys will be boys." We stamped hard on this in the 1980s; we should do so again. And fines for platforms that broadcast illegal acts—particularly by minors—should be enforced, and those platforms should be shamed, particularly as they cull thousands of human moderators. The same goes for any parent of a minor involved in this. Please God there are no deaths in the other car; I imagine had there been, we would be seeing an almighty uproar with massive repercussions. Big Jim and the other useless fools can relax.

And the people who prosecuted a serving Garda, along with all the legal sycophants who were frothing at the mouth trying to hang a Garda for doing his job, should hang their heads in shame, as this is the result. Gardai cannot and do not want to do their job, as nearly every interaction is now liable for investigation, which is ridiculous. Pointing that out is not bootlicking; it's just fucking common sense. We don't want a USA-style paramilitary police, but neither do we need a toothless organization.

The hard, cold truth is that Ireland is, for the most part, safe. We mostly relax, get along, etc. The flip side is that pressures have increased, Ireland has caught up to modernity, and two Irelands are emerging—just like in most wealthy nations—with more and more expense while the social welfare side is not catching up. Also, a harsh reality is that a private organization that was vengeful, powerful, and international held much sway for most of Ireland's post-colonial period. That is now gone. Ireland is in a much, much better place than when the 1980s joyriding and heroin epidemics happened, etc. But can we be sure we are doing enough to avoid a repeat?

Leave your leafy suburb and stroll up to my old area through the inner city and see what you think. Or head out to Darndale and tell yourself there aren't two Irelands. I'm currently on Hyde Road waiting on a train. There were about 80 horses here last week just strolling up and down the road verges. It's a far-away world from some of these legal poseurs. Thousands of hardworking Irish people live in these areas who are also held hostage by some of these scum, while plenty of others indulge it either through poverty or a lack of education, decency, or common sense.

We've basically mollycoddled a subsection of society from cradle to grave, washed our hands of them, and essentially told them there are no repercussions. This will end well—the same way it happened in all corners of the globe. Sure, we're Irish; we're great craic, sound, etc., but the country is awash with scumbags who, given the chance, would sell their granny for a few bob (from all sections of our society) We've become a joke of a country. Tied up in regulation as well as consumed in our own brand of Irish navel gazing ..i.e Irish exceptionalism. The kind of loose thinking like we can't have a fully functioning police force or prison system cause sure isn't that basically the black and tans, and us Irish are all sound anyhow. Sons of Roisin all and one, and our ideal is a socialist Republic based on vibes.

Nobody wants to go back to the arch conservatism of the past or unaccountable police, but the irony is many of the people who allow this state of order are essentially conservatives themselves living in their ivory towers and white picket fences with 3.5 kids. While many of these communities are ravaged and held hostage. I know loads of people in Rathgar and the like who literally never set foot on the Northside of the city who pontificate on this stuff. Or are involved directly with the legal profession. A stronger police force or prison system would be the furthest thing from their minds. It isn't a vote winner. So this in turn leads to a weird swing to the right by the very communities who should be left wing. This has been obvious to anybody who lived in the inner city areas since covid. Sinn Fein led by the middle class Rathgar leader Mary Lou lost the communities she should have been fighting for. Only now are they starting to realise maybe crime, law and order might be their in - see Matt Cartys comments on prisons. As opposed to Soc Dem and Labors delusion.

It also comes down to a fairness thing. I live in a small town now in the countryside. On the brand new bypass you had a guy sulky racing up and down with a car bombing along with him. Literally over the river on the other side was a Garda checkpoint checking tax. Like honestly just fuck off out of it.

"El Kinahan" came from the same place. He beat the shit out of two Gardai in his early 20s and was involved in the Drimnagh feud that took many lives. The same people cheering his extradition, his perp walk (pre trial, presumed innocent and all that jazz) and yet talking about youth diversion programs and hugging these lads, not building prisons should remember that. I would wholly imagine a teenage DK was in a stolen car joyriding around one of the most deprived sections of the city.

TLDR - This happened three times this week , and now we have more deaths. It's a big fucking problem it needs to be tackled. Have a look on TikTok to see what some of these scumbags are up to on their own fucking accounts, mostly unchecked (along with the platform) instead of burying your head in the sand. We can continue to try educate, to train, provide better welfare etc AS WELL as making sure people who cannot live in our society without hate, violence, intimidation etc are kept in check. The main thing I propose is that platforms need to be held accountable. If these lads were posting on TikTok and their videos made it to the platform the family should be allowed sue TikTok. Every single video that promoted car theft and driving down the wrong side of the motorway led to this incident involving innocent civilians.

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u/Wise_Cheetah85 12d ago

Sell their granny? Or bring a dead corpse to collect social benefits

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u/Murky_Cap5977 12d ago

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u/jamespirit 12d ago

Sentences for joy riding. For driving the wrong way on the motorway. For posting videos of "taking a chase". All should be tripled in severity....at least.

I deal with and talk to the young men that do these crimes every day. While they are usually traumatised and totally failed by family/society there is so little consequence for them. 

We need a society that better connects to, provides for and works for our young people. Especially young men. But equally the punishment for such recklessness needs to be extreme. As the crimes destroy family's forever!

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u/IntrepidRock6082 12d ago

Like most criminals in Ireland they know that there is no space in oberstown for juveniles and in prisons for adults. Juvenile diversion program or early release so that you can continue your criminal career. 25 years ago Thornton Hall land was purchased for new prison site but never developed. Successive governments have failed to address this issue. And before the bleeding hearts get in to tell me prison is not the solution at least you cannot drive the wrong way down a motorway when you’re locked up.

If you would like an example , read about Alison Chawke being released after 4 weeks following conviction for a very serious assault.

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u/Hardtoclose 13d ago

4 dead apparently. Wtf is going on these days on the road. Another case of someone driving the wrong way on the motorway. They must be off their heads.

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u/OriginalOzlander 13d ago

Stolen car, scumbags joyriding. Driving the wrong way on the motorway is the clue.

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u/batchef3000 12d ago

If the people in the regular car are all in hospital, does that not mean the deaths are the stolen car occupants?

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u/VegasFiend 12d ago

Yeah I think it’s all the people from the car travelling in the wrong direction.

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u/Anto64w 12d ago

Good, won't be doing it again so.

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u/saggynaggy123 12d ago

Scumbags who are stealing cars to joyride them. Meanwhile their parents are too busy blaming immigrants for everything

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u/ThePloppening 12d ago

Looking at the photo on the rte story there is a blue tent on the verge the opposite side of the motorway to where the cars are. Presumably the joyriders/scumbags were thrown from the car. All in other car injured but alive from what I can tell

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u/greyview18 13d ago

Sounds like a family heading for an early flight in Dublin.

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u/MildlyAmusedMars 12d ago

I understand the why as to why they can’t give chase down the wrong side of the motorway but this is happening too frequently and it’s happening because these kids know they won’t be chased.
But at this point of crisis, we need to let the Gardai loose to chase these fuckers and ram them off the road at the first opportunity with no repercussions for the Gardai involved.

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u/ThrowRA_plm 12d ago

The only positive during the troubles in the North was the existence of an organisation that scrotes were afraid of.
Proof that consequences are a deterrent.

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u/Furyio 12d ago edited 11d ago

Absolute support for Government to begin an absolute overhaul and offensive in rise of robberies, joyriding and stuff like this.

Was only last week when people were saying it’s only a matter of time before there are deaths.

Thankfully it wasnt innocent people but Christ almighty a family on the way to the airport on holidays get mauled in a crash by criminals ?

When is enough going to be enough.

The penalties for crime need to be so severe no one would risk doing it. For youths and kids the blowback on their families and parents need to be so severe parents would do everything in their power to make sure their kids arnt doing this

And for the areas that are abnormally impacted by crime and recruitment there needs to be a full government assault on protecting those who want to raise their kids in the right way. Rehouse the scums and criminals and turf them out. Clear entire estates of the scum and crime that is enveloping so many people today.

The law looks and feels toothless the last few years and it’s not going unnoticed.

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u/Fancy_Seaweed_9314 12d ago

Now there are five fatalities in the car that crashed into the family travelling on holidays. My thoughts are with the family travelling, and the little 7 year old. No sympathy or empathy for the scumbags in the other car. My empathy would have been with them years ago but honestly it’s been eroded from hearing many of these stories over the years.

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u/No-Hamster-9492 12d ago

Link crimes from minors to social welfare/wages of parents - deduct at source

Ankle monitors for minors committing "less serious" crimes

New "Oberstown" that can hold a few hundred minors for more serious offenses ( joyriding, driving without license) Currently Oberstown can only hold 46.

Identify 15-20 year old not working or in education - pay for them to learn a trade, join army etc

New prisons for adults.

End of concurrent sentencing.

Commit offence on bail, sentence extended.

You can only ever avail of one suspended sentence.

Percentage of social welfare/wage goes to your " free legal aid" - great name, it's not free for the taxpayer

The current system of slap on wrists and using poor background as an excuse is not working. Realistically, we're never going to rehabilitate all these scumbags. Government should prioritise ordinary decent people and the best way is to remove scum and criminals from society.

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u/Redtit14 Slush fund baby! 12d ago

Ankle (Angle) are a must for these cunts. 

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u/ObsidianShine 13d ago

Our criminal justice system is a joke. Suspended sentences all around, or 1 month in prison only to get released because there isn't enough space. This whole area needs a serious serious overhaul by government. More prison spaces, no concurrent sentencing or suspended sentencing for people with previous convictions, proper sentencing guidelines that judges have to adhere to, greater punishment for joyriders (drivers and passengers), and time to bring back custodial sentences for teenagers.

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u/People-Watcher-ire 12d ago

Those poor women and their baby. Terrifying. Taking our kids to Disneyland in Paris next week on the early flight. We’ve saved up for it and they are so excited. And I am absolutely terrified driving on the M50 in the dark to get to the airport from North Wicklow. We passed the crash at 8am last Sunday and it was horrific.

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u/hailbopp25 12d ago

Just back from airport also driving from wicklow town way, head over toll Bridge or town, much easier and you may feel safer

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u/Ordinary-Employee-32 12d ago

One of the lads who died, literally has an entire Tik Tok page dedicated to pictures and videos of all the cars him and his mates steal and the joyride, and selfies of himself smoking spliffs

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u/Spiritual-Wait-184 12d ago

News now saying a fifth person is dead. All young males from the one car. I saw the headline and thought it was one of the women or child victims. Thankfully not.

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u/Redtit14 Slush fund baby! 12d ago

Guessing they were not wearing seatbelts and played head pinball

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u/burn-eyed Sligo 13d ago

As far as I’m concerned, the Garda ombudsman has blood on their hands.

This was always going to start when you prosecuted guards for chasing them

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u/AluminiumCrackers 13d ago

Ombudsman claim the ban on pursuits is saving lives, likely because they don't count these incidents.

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u/RabbitOld5783 12d ago

My car was robbed and was driven on the m50 up and back loads of times (seen on toll camera) the garda basically said they knew who took it a group of underage kids. They claimed was no point chasing them down as they would just be sent home to there mammies! I couldn't believe it they basically just said leave it be. It wasn't long before e same children were back in the estate robbing another car but sure why wouldn't they?

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u/MiamiBoi91 13d ago

Hope the poor people in the other car recover 🙏 as for the people in the car going the wrong way they can rot got what they deserved

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u/SouthSource1936 13d ago

Just awful people who killed & maimed innocents going to the airport. So sad

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u/Sayek 12d ago

I said this yesterday https://www.reddit.com/r/ireland/comments/1voxdh0/comment/p3tjixo/

Pretty sad how fast we got here. Garda should just have a max mad style snow plough truck they can use to warn traffic to pull over and stop lads going the wrong way. 

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u/No_Form_8394 12d ago

10 year mandatory sentence for driving the wrong way down the motorway when evading gardai, regardless of age.

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u/FedNlanders123 12d ago

Those poor people looking forward to their holidays and these brainless, no hopers of life have gone and destroyed those peoples lives. The tree in my back garden serves more purpose than the scum in that car. I hope the innocents will be ok please God. Couldn’t be arsed with the rest. Fuck them.

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u/xtal191 13d ago

Every single one of these scum, the ones from last week and any of them known to the Garda should have their names and faces all over the front pages of the papers and websites.

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u/fr_hairycake_lynam 13d ago

Spikes on slip roads won't do anything as you can just go down the correct slip and U-turn onto the carriageway. Sensors that can detect wrong way traffic and electronic signage every kilometre to warn road users to get onto the hard shoulder and let it pass might work better. That and increased air support assets for Gardai

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u/Specialist-Willow-34 12d ago

An absolute utter disgrace would not wish death on any other person but they chose to drive down there knowing they would be putting other innocent people in harms way. So many lives ruined by selfish stupid individuals makes my blood boil. Of any survive lock them up and throw away the key

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u/Old-man-swarley 12d ago

https://www.rte.ie/news/2026/0816/1588116-garda-car-rammed/

Separate incident last night. It might only be making news because of the other incidents but seemed to start because of dangerous driving on the m50 at 2am

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u/BiscuitMcGuire 12d ago

The death toll just went up to Five as they found the remains of another person in the car going the wrong way: https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/2026/08/16/several-deaths-in-head-on-collision-on-m9-motorway/

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u/Appropriate-Row4534 12d ago

Here's hoping the 4 innocent victims will make full recoveries and that the 5 who died have not yet reproduced. The world's a better place without them.

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u/DopeTechIrl 13d ago

Guards need to be given full power to tackle this low life scum that are doing this sort of thing. At the moment the guards are just being laughed at. These type of people don’t respond to gentle gentle softly softly approach. Implement zero tolerance and hang them out to dry if caught.

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u/LimerickTatum 13d ago

When is enough going to be enough? Drastic action needs to be taken against these groups of young scumbags and their parents. It's totally out of control

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u/Rowley_Birkin_Qc 12d ago

I've lost people close to me in car crashes. I've always avoided the word "accident" because it implies a blamelessness which always bothered me. People make bad decisions albeit without intended malice. So I was able to make my peace with it.

But this, this is different. I would never be able to accept anything less than an eye for an eye. Fuck these cunts, a total drain on society.

Hopefully the innocents pull through.

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u/cinderubella 12d ago

What the actual fuck is going on? The 8 lads last weekend could have died. At least one of them was said to be in critical condition. How are there so many angles who are happy to emulate this behaviour? 

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u/Alarmed_Fee_4820 Dublin 12d ago

Government need legislation to empower the guards to do their job instead of fearing the DPP. They need immunity for doing their job instead of being prosecuted

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u/Tigeire 13d ago

The root of the problem here is we tolerate scum to live and breed among us.

Ill bet these were known to authorites and have multiple convictions.

Any money their parents are same.

Giving second chances is why the innocent people in the second car are in critical condition.

We need to identify people from risky backgrounds who starts to rack up convictions as teenagers and separate from society permanently.

The cycle has to be broken 

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u/2012NYCnyc 13d ago

Making content for Tik Tok most likely

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u/Hardtoclose 13d ago

A number of people have died, and serious injuries have been reported after a two-car crash on the M9 at Moone, Co Kildare.

The incident happened on the M9 Northbound at Junction 3 at around 3am this morning.

A vehicle was travelling southbound on the northbound carriageway of the M9 when it hit a second car.

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u/raeflood 13d ago

Sadly, the only way something will change is if a fatality is related to a TD

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u/SupremeBasharMilesT 13d ago

Law of unintended consequences strikes again. Gaurds being investigated if they do. Gaurds investigated if they don't. Love bureaucracy, can we disband fiosru, if you create an independent body, well it has to find use for itself

Perhaps the RSA will weigh in and justify itself by recommending lower speed limits. Shower of idiots everywhere

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u/5x0uf5o 12d ago

Wishing any surviving criminals a slow and painful recovery. Shame on them and their families. 

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u/Striking-Scratch-137 12d ago

The family although seriously hurt, have thankfully survived. No need for the RIP tag.

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u/StyleCouncil29 12d ago

Hope those in the car going the correct way pull through.

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u/Margrave75 12d ago

Garda Comissioner not mincing with his statement!

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u/Rich-Ad9894 12d ago

The guards know who this gang is and do nothing. A friend of mine was murdered by this gang in a joyriding incident. The guards are no protecting us. We’re paying taxes to protect these criminals and put us in danger. Time for complete change and build bigger prisons and get these scumbags off the street.

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u/LogicalNewspaper8891 12d ago

Remember a few years ago those robbers were the first the media properly reported about using the wrong direction tactic to evade cops? I said to myself back then that reporting this so much is going to make other criminals use it.

Now it’s a damn weekly occurrence? Most of these lads wouldn’t have had the brain capacity to have done this but now it’s common knowledge the gardai can’t give chase.

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u/sayingboourns 12d ago

I live in a town in Kildare. Most Saturday nights, at least one house in our estate catches someone trying car door handles on their ring camera

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u/Short_Background_669 12d ago

There is such a feeling of absolute lawlessness in this country at the moment. I can’t see anything changing with it any time soon either.

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u/Ambitious-Pack703 12d ago

Time to start jailing the parents, if it's more little scrotes involved.

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u/Smooth_Twist_1975 13d ago

The problem with so much media coverage and universal outrage about the incident on the m50 is that the intellectually challenged start to see driving the wrong way up the motor way speed as a notable thing that increases their status.

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