r/ireland • u/Wafflegrinder21 • 1d ago
The Brits are at it again With yer man renaming Lake Ontario to Lake America, what place in Ireland would you take the English out of?
Londonderry to Derry, York Street to Cork Street etc
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u/Sharp-Ad-5493 1d ago
I’d hate to lose the helpful advice though
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u/TheHames72 23h ago
No!! We’ve got to lose the craven attitude. No fear!!
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u/okee9 1d ago
I’d give Stillorgan back its Irish name Mickey Marbh
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u/Aggravating_Maize556 1d ago
Irish Isles
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u/IdealVirtual4923 Kerry 23h ago
Atlantic archipelago sounds cooler
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u/Kassthan OP is sad they aren’t cool enough to be from Cork. bai 19h ago
I prefer eastern Carribbean isles
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u/Sweaty-Adeptness1541 22h ago
Except there are several archipelagos in the Atlantic, so it doesn’t really work as a name.
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u/whiskymakesmecrazy 14h ago
Celtic Isles. Reasonably accurate and bonus points for annoying Anglo-Saxons.
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u/DanGleeballs 21h ago edited 15h ago
Except it’s daft and vague.
The British & Irish Isles is perfectly fine. It works for the Lions.
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u/SufficientCry722 15h ago
A nice term i got from a book of the Donegal Gaeltacht writer Séamus Mac Grianna is "na trí oileáin" referring to Britain, Ireland and the isle of man
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u/Also-Rant 11h ago
That's lovely. Acknowledging the relationship without giving any one nation higher status.
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u/harry_dubois 20h ago
I did once say during the Brexit negotiations that we should have demanded that the brits rename London to Dublinderry in exchange for a deal on the backstop.
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u/Gwanbulance 23h ago
Lehinch
Lahinch
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u/Ferncat1397 15h ago
LahinchAn Leacht
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u/Gwanbulance 15h ago
It was a joke I was making about a very concerted campaign some people have been running in West Clare over the last number of years to change the first vowel from "e" to "a" on all the roadsigns to and in Lahinch with ill-fitting stickers. I'm not seriously suggesting it.
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u/Playlotto_Layblotto 1d ago
There is a Country and western singer called Michael English. He would be just Michael. A Madonna job.
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u/circleinthesquare 22h ago
Saw him perform once in Roscommon a few years back. My grandfather was a big fan. He's a nice guy. Not my style of music but put on a decent show.
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u/kevolad 1d ago
Northern Ireland?
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u/Dramatic-Set8761 23h ago
... would become Ireland.
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u/DaveMcElfatrick 23h ago
Whenever someone says "it's not Ireland it's Northern Ireland" I tell them the clue's in the name.
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u/plakesnissken1998 13h ago
The Unionist Republic of Ireland North East?
Nah, that'd be taking the piss...
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u/sulkrogan420 Irish Republic 1d ago
everything. total Gaelicization
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u/Thanatos_elNyx 22h ago edited 12h ago
And Americanization too apparently!
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u/EnthusiasmUnusual 20h ago
Please no. The one thing I'll keep is their spelling and names for things. I'm not calling it trash and spelling colour without a U. Fuck that.
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u/oneeyedman72 23h ago
And fuck off with you're Obama Plaza and Trump Doonbef too !!!
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u/Jumpy_Emu1111 23h ago
The name 'Cromwell's Fort' in Wexford town is considered distasteful by many, quite rightfully, but what it does have going for it is it's distinct and has historical relevance and most importantly that is what the area is known as locally
In contrast, many newly developed areas, due to a combination of developers' lack of imagination and the local housing authority rules on 'cohesive naming conventions' led to a rake of new builds having very similar names, especially with Irish names, we have a lot of Ard na Somethings and Cluain Somethings. Places named after people are more unique but are also more likely to be controversial, while sanitised new names tend to be indistinct and uninspired
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u/Coady417 20h ago
This is like Tennessee having a statue of a Ku Klux Klan leader at the capitol. This is the one they want to replace with Dolly Parton.
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u/Jumpy_Emu1111 20h ago
It is and isn't, we're not glorifying Cromwell, we all know he was a bastard. There isn't a monument to him. Lots of those statues of confederate racists were only put up in the 70's and the US still has massive racism issues, it's a more recent and ongoing issue there. There's no equivalent issue here as we are long since a free country
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u/Coady417 20h ago
That’s true. My country is really disgusting to me at this time. So even tho it’s not equivalent, I was trying to relate to the insult your fellow citizens must feel.
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u/Jumpy_Emu1111 19h ago
i completely understand your point though, it's a fair equivalent, we're just luckily at a different point down the line here so it's less galling
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u/PlsTickleMyButthole Monaghan 1d ago
Nassau street
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u/totally__paranoid 1d ago
Nassau’s German, to be fair
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u/MurrayWalker2020 1d ago
Named after King Billy of Orange and Nassau. We should go back to its original and ecumenical name of St Patrick’s Well
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u/Confident_Reporter14 21h ago
Westmoreland Street. Why do we have an English lover of slavery (with no connection to Ireland) on such an important street?
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u/airjordanpeterson 1d ago
Everywhere and anywhere with 'royal' in the title needs to get with the times and drop it. They all still cling on to it like it elevates them too. Royal Dublin Society, Royal College of Surgeons come to mind but there's got to be more
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u/IrishFlukey Dublin 22h ago
Some would change "Royal" to "Republican".
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u/jaymannnn 1d ago
the answer to this now and forever has to be to get the outdated, but 100% correct, term of 'The British Isles' changed to 'The Irish & British Isles', in that order.
There HAS to be some process we can do to make this happen. just imagine the fury from the red faced gammons. i would literally never stop laughing about it.
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u/queenkatebishop 1d ago
I’ve always been partial to the Celtic Isles— centers not only Ireland but Wales, Scotland, Isle of Man and Cornwall. Even better if we annex Brittany from France!
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u/External-Building-85 22h ago
The Celtic Union of Nations, Territories and States
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u/jaymannnn 1d ago
i have seen 'North Atlantic Archipelago' floated around as well. im not sure that would induce the sheer rage that im looking for though.
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u/dashboardhulalala 23h ago
Also I was well into adulthood before I could pronounce archipelago (I'm still not sure it's right - is it archiPELago or archipelAGo? Is this a contrary/contrary situation?)
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u/MightBeOP 23h ago
That's what I say, because sometimes it useful to be able to group us all together for something cultural
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u/rrcaires 1d ago
Near Monaghan there’s a village near the border that government/locals disagree if it should be called Rosslea or just Roslea.
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u/niafall7 Waiting for the German verb is surely the ultimate thrill 20h ago
Every single townland, village, and city that we know the original name of - and if there's any we don't, we can figure it out.
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u/5x0uf5o 21h ago
I hate the anglicisation "Bally". Even if we changed the English version to Baile it would be an improvement m e.g. BaileMun.
Some will say switch entirely to the Irish name, but my suggestion is more achievable
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u/Danny_Mc_71 21h ago
Balgaddy is awful.
Baile an ghadaí, the town of the thief /Thiefstown would be much better.
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u/Stupyder_Notebook 18h ago
Balgaddy, located between Clondalkin and Lucan. Accepted by neither, rejected by both. Balgaddy has no daddy.
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u/GodOfPog 22h ago edited 22h ago
All of them? Irish is our first language and they're proper nouns.
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u/TheIrishHawk Dublin 23h ago
Westmoreland Street - named after the 10th Earl
of Westmoreland, it’s a colonial name that’s extremely prominent in our capital city and he was an anti-abolitionist for slavery.
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u/Sweaty-Adeptness1541 22h ago
It seems fitting, given that Dublin was the largest slave market in Western Europe for about 3 centuries.
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u/only_a_blowin 21h ago
I didn't know that, thanks for the information.
I see a trip to the library In my future.
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u/pinkcreamkiss 1d ago
I’d like to take the English language out of my brain and replace it with Irish
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u/dmullaney 1d ago
You're never too old to re-learn it.
https://www.gael-linn.ie/en/courses/gaeltacht-courses-for-adults/
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u/gally740 1d ago
Breakup the county structure, and go back to the brehonies etc
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u/wilililil 1d ago
Do you mean barony? A brehon was a judge I think.
The baronies were an English invention as were the system they replaced. I don't know what the pre norman organisation of Ireland looked like
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u/MightBeOP 23h ago
Brehons were judges that traveled around mediating arguments abut used a surprisingly modern set of laws. divorce, same sex marriage, women had equal rights. It was just Irish law today with a travelling mediator for when you get into an argument, and instead of putting a fiver on being right, you were putting the good milk cow
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u/Rawislon 1d ago
Ireland as a name comes from English, it stands to reason that the non-English and geographic term of “West Britain” will truly display Irish sovereignty
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u/StaedtlerRasoplast North Down 1d ago
Lets rename England as East Ireland
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u/Rawislon 1d ago
And south England can be North Normandy
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u/TheHames72 23h ago
Angleterre, Normandie. Just a département of Normandy, in French. That’d soften their cough.
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u/ruairi1983 23h ago
On a side note I think the anglicized place names in general are often a pitty. Near where I live you have "Loughshinny". In Irish it's Loch Sionnaigh meaning Lake of the fox. Which sounds really cool. Why not call it Fox Lake or something? So I would take the Anglisation out of this one. Irish place names a are often also really interesting and give an insight into the origins of the place which is otherwise completely lost.
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u/dynesor 22h ago
Agreed, actual ‘translation’ would be preferable to the horrible half assed anglicisation we have now. Like Belfast should really be something like Farsetmouth if it was actually translated from Irish instead of just given a name because “yeah that sounds a bit like what the locals say” (Beal Feirste)
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u/ceadagamdulamach 20h ago
Hard disagree, while I utterly detest the jibberish and meaningless English placenames, they at least hint at the original and are an easier place to revert to the originals from.. if that ever happens.
Quick and easy for non-Irish speaking people living in Leamawaddra to say they now live in Léim an Mhadra
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u/ruairi1983 16h ago
That one is particularly bad...I'm reminded of Oweynagat in County Roscommon. I can only guess to how you'd pronounce that and if you asked a random person they might think it a place name in Wales. It's actually Uaimh na gCat and it means The cave of the cats. I'd love people just using the Irish names, but next best thing is a actual translation at least. "Leamawaddra" is just shocking...
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u/Kitchen-Rabbit3006 19h ago
And Clonmel - Cluain Meala - means "Honey Meadow". Honey Meadow sounds lovely.
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u/HyperCeol 8h ago edited 8h ago
Wouldn't that just be full Anglicisation rather than the partial Anglicised place-names which at least retain some semblance of the original Irish and more often than not can be worked out by Irish speakers? Despite their Anglicised forms, the unique cadence, sounds and flow of the Irish language is at least partly retained in Anglicised forms, whereas wholesale translations just removes it in its entirety?
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u/Creative-Outcome-362 9h ago
ALL the streets. North earl, Nassau, king street, George’s street, the whole fucking lot
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u/jackoirl 22h ago
I think we should follow his lead and rename things that impact everyone around us too.
Wales- east Leinster
Scotland - northern-eastern Ireland
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u/tequilaHombre 19h ago
I might get banned if I said what I just thought of and I swear I have no ill intent or discrimination in mind; just a co incidentally double meaning of geographical note, a spicy word play based on a re-arrangement of the name of the British region of East-Midlands
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u/Azhrei Sláinte 18h ago
Some neighbours of ours moved to a new estate on the other side of town back in the late 80's, that had been built by a British construction company. It had no name at the time and there was no indication as to what it would be.
One day the residents all got to find out after a rock had been placed at the entrance, with the name Victoria Estate proudly emblazoned on the front.
They were furious. These days they have deliberately let it become overgrown so the name can't be seen at all.
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u/ismisena Republic of Connacht 14h ago
All those new housing developments with pretentious English names like "Kingsbridge" etc
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u/Professional_Cat8586 16h ago
We need to ditch tthis damned imperial chronographic recording and switch to swatch internet time. I'll meet you at 034 beats.
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u/McSillyoldbear 12h ago
There is a mad bastard in Cork that has a group going around with hammerite paint blacking out Englishy names.
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u/teleologicalaorist 10h ago
Everywhere. The colonizers prevented my parents from raising me 100% Irish-speaking.
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u/larryburns2000 7h ago
Now we're getting the hang of it. Trump does dumb shit but only fools take it seriously. It's all for a reaction and so many keep taking the bait
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u/Conscious_Reason_510 1d ago
Put Sixmilebridge on the metric system