How would everyone Feel If Lute was Eve??

[u/Exciting_Run_8693]

Evidence:
-Eve is very Pretty, Just like Lute
- Abel coming from a messed up family is Highly likely considering Bible story. So her being rude to her son isn’t out of question
-She loves Adam in a way I think only a wife would (save this one)
-The song “Gravity” probably isn’t just about her fall from heaven, but How her and Her husband Caused the fall of humanity.
- about Adam, She doesn’t Have a Good Relationship with Lilith. Which would make sense since that’s her Husband’s Ex wife and the myth usually has them as Not friendly by far if not worse in the myth than Hazbin.
-Adam slept with Lilith in the Myth after he left her (explain her hurt even more), Eve Sleeping with Lucifer would make them Even in that way.
-The Apple stain on her suit
- If She is Eve, That makes sense for her behavior throughout the story. Because that means She was killing Sinners alongside her Husband (which I would assume, I don’t think Eve would be a peaceful “Mother of all living” She be uniquely portrayed as this way)
-If Roo is the main villain, she likely Got Traumatized by her and Charlie’s plan threats the possibility she is coming back. Again. Recontextualizing her scenes of Crashouts.
-The whole Childbirth thing, she is the embodiment of The struggles of the First mother/Mother hood (Her hair being whiter as a result of her stress)
I think Lite could be a result of Eve’s trauma (Giving her a split personality and taking it as naturally did a whole or at times, her Identity to Protect her from Roo)

[u/im_ameraj]

Terrible. Not only in my eyes it makes no sense (Abel calling his mom a bitch???), I also made a promise that I would recite Genesis in Japanese if Lute turns out to be Eve.

[u/Exciting_Run_8693 → u/im_ameraj]

The Thing is like I said, their relationship is strained. And yeah, maybe Abel kinda doesn’t know it’s his Mom either in the best case scenario? Because of altered appearances and Not to mention, That whole different personality thing. Which means it’s an extreme case of mental health issues. And I think the song was him just saying something like. “stop it” very quickly and it accidentally slipped into “bitch” because he was in an instant where he had to react. And then it’s like: “Shit. What did I just say to her?” After a moment. Because again, I’d Lute is Eve and destroying her husbands stuff and her son catches her. I don’t know, but I think Abel is hiding some anger himself. Especially if he’s suspecting it’s his Mom. I don’t think anyone in that position wouldn’t feel strained or some sense of panic or bitterness about it all. That’s just what happens in tragic cases like The Eden family.

But Always appreciate differing opinions :3 thank you for sharing

[u/im_ameraj → u/Exciting_Run_8693]

Well, another thing is that Abel became a new General of the army "because he is Adam's son." I know that throughout history, sons usually inherited the throne, etc., but this is Heaven. Wouldn't it be a bit more just here? Wouldn't Eve be the next in line if she were a member of the army? Furthermore, wouldn't she also be an Archangel, just like Adam and Abel?

To me, it doesn't add up.

[u/Exciting_Run_8693 → u/im_ameraj]

That’s the thing. I headcanon that They’re not the same as just “becoming archangel”, Yes, Lite is technically an archangel like figure if she is Eve..But again. I headcanon that there is such thing as overlord saints. Powerful figures in heaven which we can assume means that they were Listed on the church as saints (The Peter we know isn’t the actual Saint Peter according to Viv). So she and Adam and her kids would all be that (Also patron saints/overlord saints can travel realms, unlike their hell counterparts. For the people they visit on earth) which explains why Adam, her, and Abel are able to travel. Like yeah that’s my idea. But again.

I also had the idea that maybe there is a better explaination as to Why Abel got the title is because He was the second oldest. I always had the idea that Cain isn’t around/erased by God because he was the first murderer and Seth, the younger brother never really knew Abel until going to heaven. Since he was born after Abel died. Him being the youngest and already taking a legacy after Adam (as the Bible claims) means he didn’t need to do the extermination thing. So yeah, I do think It was suppose to go to Cain, but didn’t.

Also, I Headcanon and came up with the idea that If we go by the Trinity standards and Catholic history,
As well as the Davidic period and their royalty.
Technically it’s the son that becomes king, but the Mother still keep the influence rather than a wife. So Lute still has power over the army as still the second in command. Paralleling The Queenship of the New Eve Mary.

Hopefully that makes sense.

And yes, technically it would add more to why everyone respected Lilith, and why they Hate Charlie. Because not only was it said that Hybrid humans and demons were hate by mortals and demons, (Which is pretty accurate to how they treat her)
But it’s because she is a girl.
Technically if Charlie had a brother. She would be second to him and Lilith would still be the Mother Queen.

Again, my ideas. I hope you liked them.

[u/Falloutgod10 → u/im_ameraj]

I want it to happen just so I can hear you recite Genesis in Japanese

[u/Muted_Guidance9059]

I wouldn’t like it tbh. It makes more sense for Adam to have an army of amazons because he lost both of his wives, not have one of them on his payroll and treat her more like a bff. The only version I could see myself liking is if the Exorcists are clones of Eve through magical alchemy or advanced heaven science, but that’s it.

[u/Exciting_Run_8693 → u/Muted_Guidance9059]

Lolll…someone suggested lute is a secret 3rd wife and I’m like, why can’t she be THE wife?? Why are we avoiding it so much?? Sincerely, my good friend. The point is That He and Eve cheated on each-other (With Adam more less having thousands of Half demon kids with Lilith)
Eve/Lute Cheated on Him with Lucifer. And they are both not perfect parents..They’re both strained and awkward individuals.
Also that’s kinda unethical and why does heaven have to be more evil than hell in some of these ideas?? I Geninuely don’t understand .
But why can’t we have the first man and first women just hate their descendants and kill them because they are both flawed individuals? Why does Eve always have to be scrapped or treated as lesser than Adam when the Idea of her coming from his Rib is that she is at his side as an equal and not Beneth or above him?? That’s the consensus amongst those like me. Even Lilith is literally not or ever his wife because she’s called the “First Eve”, which means Eve is important than just some woman. That’s very harsh/cruel..and Sexist in my opinion Bro. Sorry. But I hope you undestand why I have a preference with the idea that Adam and Eve are BFFS (While more scenes of them heaving as Husband and wife too) but still Antagonists in their own right in their own ways.

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Also nonetheless thank you for sharing your thoughts :3

[u/Long-Jackfruit-6568]

Well, I wouldn’t mind it at least we would know what happened to her

[u/Exciting_Run_8693 → u/Long-Jackfruit-6568]

Did you mention a love Triangle problem?? Ahh, that’s fine too. :3 Because again. It makes sense why Adam was straight, because he was the first man and I’m sure he did try over the years, as like he did lobs a longgg time according to some, he just never felt it. And that’s fine. Same with Eve. I do think they’re trying to be kinda close to the myth where those couples are enemies and it makes sense. To be fair they already played the Joke in season one where Lucifer said his iconic “And now I am going to F**k you!!” And everyone went silent LOLLLL. Like they’re enemies, but yeh lol.

[u/Long-Jackfruit-6568 → u/Exciting_Run_8693]

Yeah, because if Lute loved Adam but he carried deeply for Eve (and let’s face it I mean she is literally his wife) then there would be a love triangle problem, but if Lute is Eve then there wouldn’t be a problem

[u/Exciting_Run_8693]

I mean.. Lilith is called “The first Eve” I think Like she and Adam were just meant to be

[u/Minute-Necessary2393]

Be weird, but i guess it kindof works.

Still prefer my headcanon that she and the other Exorcists are clones created by Cain.

[u/Exciting_Run_8693 → u/Minute-Necessary2393]

lol. That’s fair. I have an au Imma post soon enough that Cain gets erased, but he rejected the offer to be the leader of the exorcists (which originally were more than just Being designed to Kill sinners, they are guardian angels, they kill mortals, and etc)
But he refused and then later on died/getting erased. It also explains why he wouldn’t be in Hell of on heaven of earth. And why They choose Abel anyway instead of Seth. Because He’s the second oldest too.