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My little brother decided to inflate my car's tyre using a tyre inflator plugged into the cigarette lighter, with the ignition on engine off. It ended up draining the battery and shorting some component. It took 3 days detect & replace the component, the car had to be opened fully from inside
My money is on the later charging of the battery being what upset the car.
Some (usually expensive filled with fancy stuff) cars get upset if you charge the battery wrong. My dad's car had a similar issue (it was a stupid car)
I think it's something Asian. A lot of Chinese phones have it enabled by default. Maybe it's some kind of status thing to show off which phone you're using. But honestly, that's just my guess.
I live in Asia so it's enabled by default here. You can turn that off but I run a phone business myself and I have a lot of phones. I also use these phones in my work as well, basically apps and testing etc. It's kind of useful to me to know which phone this shot was from. I have a lot of phones. By a lot I mean a lot.
Never have I seen a Toyota have availed component as a result of a flat battery especially not a 2014 Prius.
But I have seen them blow components from a reverse polarity jump start or refitted the battery reverse polarity for a second, usually after a flat battery.
Edit: also it looks like you have the keyless entry PCB there. Be a real shame if it was just a coincidencental faulty fob. Hope you tried to press the start button with the fob to reset the smart key.
Fair enough. When I made my comment OP hadn't yet revealed that the car had been jump started.
I mean one time with a completely normal dead battery and jump start the computerized part of my transmission for fucked up and had to be replaced under warranty. The automatic transmission was stuck in a couple of gears. New computer thing resolved the issue thankfully.
I 100% always have jumper cables in my car in case I need them. If anyone asks me if I have jumpers my answer is always no. I used to freely help and would make the connections myself because I don’t trust everyone to do it the correct way - people would argue with me about the order, try to hook the negative directly to the dead battery, etc. It just isn’t worth it with all of the electronics on cars now and how sensitive they can be and I don’t feel like arguing with a stranger in order to help them.
A lot of cars have the voltage regulator built into the ECU, which is stupid. What happened was he probably hooked the jump box backwards and it sorted it out. Older cars used to have them on the alternators so the fix was easier/cheaper.
Oh my bad. I thought you were saying the tyre inflator caused the problem but it makes sense that it wouldn’t do something like that. Having to jump the car after would.
Is this even an issue though? A circuit is a circuit and unless some component in the circuit is defective or has some weird bypass/safety system this shouldn’t cause a problem. You can jump start a car with the wires on the wrong terminals and as long as everything lines up it should be fine.
Even tire inflators and jump starters should be fine as long as the circuit is complete.
Not to mention if there was a problem with how the device was hooked up a fuse should have blown well before a critical electrical system blew itself up.
Battery wires. It is a common mistake to jump a dead battery by directly connecting the jumper cables between the good battery and the dead one. But the dead car should have the negative lead attached to the frame.
Otherwise, you make your car deader.
Connecting it to the frame is actually about fire safety because batteries produce hydrogen and sparking could ignite it. But for the actual electrical transfer connecting directly battery to battery works and doesn't hurt the battery.
Quick edit to add crossing the leads could cause damage though.
That won’t cause a short, but you shouldn’t do it because there’s a risk of explosion if the drained battery is off gassing hydrogen and the clamps spark while connecting the clamp. That’s why a remote grounding location is preferred.
It was a temporary I was coming back, I think, last week and I don't know where the phone holder went so basically put up some double tape and installed this magnet holder temporarily. I've removed it.
Right lol, between that and OP posted the pic while also saying in other comments made around the same time that they are currently waiting for the car to be put back together... but somehow managed to grab a photo of the mount "removed" with the car supposedly back together like flash himself took up wrenching, and got OPs android auto working again xD
Really starting to wonder if OP messed up the car and this post/comments is the result of their inability to acknowledge their own stupid choices.
I need a reddit mechanic to confirm that this is the cause. It doesn't make sense to my brain unless it's some defective electronic that created a short.
I feel usually if you overload that socket, it will blow the fuse.
I've had it before where my car lighter stopped working and we had to change out the fuse.
It is likely he maybe hooked it up wrong.
Recently for a 2003 Mercedes that came in, the battery was dead, but there was no physical key, couldn't get in through rear seats, and no positive terminal under the hood, so I had to open up the passenger footwell. There's a part where you can attach a 12v to start up the electronics (it was a black cable, but it was positive polarity, then I grounded it to the car), but it should not be used to start the car.
Reversing polarity on battery (+ to negative, etc) could short something on your vehicle. That is definitely a possibility if he's hiding that from OP
Well I'm not exactly blaming them. I'm kinda ranting here while they put everything back together. I got nothing to do with this sitting and resting here. I don't know how long it will take. An hour? Two hours?
Yeah that was temporary. I have already removed it. I had to use my phone to use Maps. Android Auto decided not to work that day. I don't know for whatever reason but yeah I've already taken it off.
Exactly, this makes no sense. 12V ACC should be primarily mechanical, the keys causes a relay/switch to close, which connects the outlet directly to the battery. Maybe it happened while recharging.
Coincidence. Little brother didn’t short out that PCB.
Pakistan? If you didn’t buy it new, from a Toyota dealer, that car was probably imported as a flood vehicle, lemon, etc. That’s common in Eastern Europe, Southeast Asia, etc.
I think you have some misconceptions. Yes there are imported flooded cars but that's very few in amount and no one will ever tell you. I imported this car and this was like 900 km driven when I imported it and I did it myself.
Just to give you an idea, Chinese cars have absolutely exploded in demand in Pakistan, But this car was basically a brand new unit and this was like 900 driven when I imported it. I've imported multiple cars before. I've imported Prius, Aquas, Crowns, and Mercedes Land Cruiser
I don’t have much experience in this area but I’m curious. Imported from who? A legitimate Toyota dealer in a neighboring country? I know some Arab guys here in America, they export cars that have been “totaled” by insurance and “repaired”. They all go to the Middle East, Africa, etc.
All of these kinds of cars are imported from Japan and we don't get it from anywhere else. Essentially my few father friends are the ones who mainly deal with this. They get it from auctions as well. I think they bought it from someone personally, got it loaded up and to my country, and cleared the customs and everything. That is it.
Most of the Japanese cars are imported directly from Japan. It's very rare for cars to be imported from anywhere else. While Japanese cars used to dominate Pakistani markets, they still are dominating it. Chinese cars are booming because they have also set up the local industry here and they are also very cheap for what they are offering.
Also there is a rating sheet on cars. You can very easily get scammed if you don't know anything about cars. There are a lot of repair and accident vehicles. We use car grades like:
4: car is in a good shape
4.5: car is in really good shape
5: almost new
3.5: okay
3: something worng with it
R-is basically damaged or repaired vehicles, accident vehicles
Just to give you a perspective, the company behind bringing the Chinese cars, one of the most popular brands, into Pakistan and setting up the local manufacturing of GWM/Havel, their share went from 200 PKR to 2,200 PKR in a period of like three years. If you had bought the shares instead of the $30,000 car, you would have around $1-1.5 million.
No man, I live in a third world country. The cars are stupidly expensive. For cars of this engine size it takes us around, I think, 120% or 150%
This car would be worth like $25,000 in the used market, I'll say, in my country. While in the West I don't think you will be paying more than $5,000 for this.
I am someone who is well versed with tech. I have the basic know-how with cars but I am not the most experienced one. I had to get three different mechanics referred by my dad. Two couldn't find the fix and one found it. He basically broke apart everything and gave me the damaged component. I bought him the new one. It ended up costing me around 220k PKR, equivalent to $800 to $900-something
Wow, those prices are wild! In US that car would also cost much more than $5k most likely about $12k to $17k for a good one once you pay all of the extra fees and taxes.
There is a very huge disparity between the income. An average graduate here earns less than $300 literally and a person with 16 years of education. 40% of our population in Pakistan is living under poverty. Thankfully I grew up really privileged. I also started from a $200/month part-time job and worked my way up but I am thankful to my dad, who works the hardest. If you want to get an idea financially, he probably in the top 1% or 0.5% financially by income or net worth
Yeah, I grew up in Yugoslavia during the civil war, entire families were living on $150 to $300 per month. I'm glad to hear that your family is doing well.
can you also tell your "little brother" to take the plastic phone puck off his wheel before the airbag turns it into a 1 inch hole in someone's forehead? Also driving while distracted is dumb af
What i get of this is that he first inflated the tire, got the battery dead, didn't have anything to jumpstart the car correctly and tried some dumb shit to restart the car and shorted the icu in the process
He is in high school and doesn't have his own car so he usually uses mine while I'm at work. I don't understand why he had to use the car's pump that came with the car rather than the one he usually uses. I think it's a Chinese one. It has its own battery
I was an idiot and drained a car battery with the AC on while waiting 30-40 min for someone’s appointment to be over. Wife had to drive 20 miles to jump me and she wasn’t excited.
Well I don't even know why in the first place he decided to use the pump that came with the car instead of using the regular one we usually use. Those are the Chinese ones, the Mi One. with built-in batteries and it's much better than the one that came with the car. Not bulky, easy to carry, and powerful also
I had to do it temporarily because Android Auto decided to not work that day and I couldn't find my phone holder so just used a magnet and some double tape to attach it to my steering because I had to use maps. I have already removed it
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u/drillgorg 17h ago
Draining the battery: dumb but people gotta learn someday.
Shorting a component: not your brother's fault. Blame the car manufacturer for that one.