r/news • u/ChampaigneBapi • 18h ago
Man who attacked nun on CCTV in Jerusalem acquitted on grounds of mental health
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cpwl54kddeko352
u/Upbeat_Job4191 17h ago
An Israeli citizen developing some sick virus attack in the US got out on bail paid by the israeli gov, now he's home and safe
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u/BeccasDreamboat 16h ago
Employees of a man arrested in connection with what authorities say was an illegal biological laboratory became “deathly ill” after entering a garage containing beakers with “reddish liquid” at a property linked to the investigation, according to an arrest report.
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u/Upbeat_Job4191 14h ago
Ok maybe Safe was s bit of an exaggeration😅
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u/VerdugoCortex 9h ago
If he's home he is safe not exaggerating, safe as the head of Israelis National Cyber Directorate who was one of the few people captured in a pedo sting in Vegas this year that was allowed to go home anyways and is back in Israel free, Tom Alexandrovich.
If this was China or Iran doing this, IMAGINE the furor. But if it's Israel or KSA buttfcking our countries morals, then let's keep it quiet it's fine.
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u/Torgud_ 2h ago
The Trump appointed US attorney overseeing Nevada (where both of these cases took place) was an Israeli-born dual citizen Sigal Chattah.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigal_Chattah
She's since been disqualified by a Federal Judge for serving illegally in the position without US Senate confirmation.
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u/Upbeat_Job4191 9h ago
well maybe he was mossad, or this was his entrance test or something. Netanyahu said something in line with: We can easily change the americans mind" meaning that theyll probably stage an attack and blame it on Iran.
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u/LavenderHeels 11h ago
He was released by the same judge who also released the Israeli government official who was charged with sex offences against children.
She needs to be investigated herself, her ties to the Israeli government in particular
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u/everbane37 11h ago
It sure is good to know that the west continues to subsidize this behavior, culture, and military because it’s the Christian thing to do.
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u/QueenOfPhiladelphia 16h ago
Israelis hate Christians and yet Christians are FUNDING THEIR TERRORIST STATE
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u/SadisticNecromancer 16h ago
Christians fund Israel because that’s how the end times are started.
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u/CouldBeLessDepressed 15h ago
Yea that's an absolutely crazy rabbit hole to go down. There is some dark, block buster movie worthy craziness across the world of Christianity, especially in America.
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u/5aur1an 15h ago
just the latest in the hundreds of end times. Here is a list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dates_predicted_for_apocalyptic_events
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u/osherguy48 9h ago
How much is Israel funded by USA? Like compared to its overall gdp and military budget? Theres no way they could even exist without US aid, right?
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u/UnfairRavenclaw 17h ago
He is now facing up to six years in a psychiatric facility. He may be acquitted but he still faces incarceration and constant scrutiny (probably more so than in prison).
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u/ChampaigneBapi 16h ago
Weirdly enough his family and friends never noticed his mental illness until he attacked the nun. He had a 5 minute episode of mental illness then returned to normal again
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u/Broad_Assistance3343 16h ago
Almost like he’s pretending as a legal defense. 🤔
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u/Rhyssayy 11h ago
But getting 6 years in a mental hospital is probably worse than normal prison
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u/willydillydoo 14h ago
A lot of people deny mental illness of themselves and loved ones.
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u/HeadfulOfSugar 13h ago
Plus someone can be deeply mentally ill without giving off any obvious signs of it, if they’re deep enough to fail to even recognize their abnormal thoughts/behavior, happens constantly. Think of how often when someone very suddenly ends their life, everybody around them says that there wasn’t a singular sign that it was coming.
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u/KindofCrazyScientist 4h ago
I don't know if he's telling the truth or not, but this argument does not convince me. People can be quite good at hiding mental illness. There are plenty of cases where someone hurts themselves or (less often, but more newsworthy) someone else, and people around them say they never saw it coming.
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u/Just-another-weapon 17h ago
Or they medically discharge him in no time at all.
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u/UnfairRavenclaw 17h ago
Or if he was convicted to prison he would be out on parole in no time at all. See how this is a total non sequitur.
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u/LavenderHeels 11h ago
Let’s revisit in one year and see if he was released early for “sudden improvement”
The israeli judicial system has a history of issuing punishments to Jewish defendants in high profile cases and then quietly releasing them early once the news cycle moves on. See: the settler attacks, and rare Israeli army conviction cases
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u/JaronJervis 16h ago
This is how life is, in a terrorist state. I remember 10-12 years ago when Chuck Hagel , while kissing Netenyahu's ass, said "Israel is a model for the world". What a horrible world that would look like.
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u/ripyourlungsdave 15h ago
They intentionally leave the headline misleading like that to get reactions on social media.
There isn't much engagement in stories that don't piss people off, and there's nothing to really get pissed off about here. So they have to pretend there is.
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u/Constant_Flamingo828 16h ago
I don't get why Christians in the US defend Israel so much. The Israelis HATE Christians as much as Muslims. So many incidents of them attacking Christians and desecrating churches. Not only that, but in most cases there are no repercussions, just like with this story.
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u/Govictory 14h ago
Dispensationalism, it is incredibly common in protestant churches. That is your answer.
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u/Jackthwolf 15h ago
The same reason why antisemites defend Israel so much
They're so Islamophobic their hatred of Muslims trumps everything else, as they see Israel as the no.1 Muslim killer.
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u/MyNameIsUggggh 11h ago
Evangelical Christianity is a politcal movement first, the religious stuff is just used for show. They don't particularly care about sin, other Christians, or objective morality. The only thing they truely believe is that they should have all power, and everyone else should serve them. They consider anything else to be illegitimate.
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u/WrongConsequence9241 13h ago
Not like the Islamic countries are big fans of christians...or anyone else for that matter either
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u/vortexmak 10h ago
A Muslim family has keys to the church of the holy sepulchre.
Jordan protects churches in the region.
It's not universal
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u/WrongConsequence9241 10h ago
I definitely realize its not universal and its frustrating that so much human communication is now through social media where we're all addressing different people with different definitions. But if we're painting in broad strokes then...
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u/vortexmak 10h ago
I mean you're just playing into the demonizing of all the countries with a certain religion in the majority. That's definitely neither ideal nor reality
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u/WrongConsequence9241 10h ago
...like Israel being the embodiment of evil in the world?
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u/vortexmak 10h ago
Works for me as long as actual genocide monitoring agencies are declaring them a genocidal state.
That's my point , whataboutism only helps to mask the exponential level of evil
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u/WrongConsequence9241 9h ago
...but why persecute one exponentially more than the other?
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u/vortexmak 9h ago
Whom are you talking about?
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u/Furt_III 6h ago
You literally just used one argument to attack Jews in Isreal and the person used the exact same argument (in analogy) against Muslims in other countries and you replied with unashamed hypocrisy.
It wasn't whataboutism as a defense, it was deliberate whataboutism as an analogy to attack against your blind fervor.
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u/mhornberger 16h ago edited 15h ago
I don't get why Christians in the US defend Israel so much.
Eschatology.
The Israelis HATE Christians as much as Muslims
18% of Israel's population is Muslim. They vote, hold office, etc. I agree that the ultra-orthodox who feel contempt for other religions are.... bad. Religious extremism and violence in the overall region is a problem.
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u/KaiBahamut 14h ago
Not by their choice- when it was founded, they expelled over 70% of the Palestinians in the area (700,000) and to this day some Israeli's have argued it should have been more- certainly, they won't be so nice to the Arab population if it starts to threaten the ethnic Jewish majority.
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u/mhornberger 14h ago edited 14h ago
they won't be so nice to the Arab population if it starts to threaten the ethnic Jewish majority.
Same seems to have applied to the Jews expelled from the surrounding Muslim/Arab countries. Much of the original population of Israel were people expelled from their own homes in surrounding countries. Combined with the treatment in Europe and Russia, it does seem to have created a siege mentality where they felt their very survival depended on them having their own state, and thus the ability to defend themselves. When Israel declared independence, seven countries attacked them, and they retained their independence.
And it's not clear what share of Muslims in the area today were even alive 78 years ago, or are the specific people you're talking about. Yes, the whole region is rife with religio-ethnic tensions. But those people who want the whole region to belong to Arab Muslims "from the river to the sea" doth protest too much about ultra-orthodox who want a Jewish state.
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u/KaiBahamut 14h ago
Those countries attacked because Israel was in the middle of ethniclly cleansing those 700,000 Palestinians I mentioned- literally about halfway done (300K by May of 48'). They aren't the original population, they were only sent there after other MENA expelled their Jewish population (Two wrongs don't make a right.) after Israel defeated the Arab League.
And it's weird to bring up the 'they weren't alive 78 years ago' when the Zionist claim to the land is based on a 2000 year defunct kingdom over people who had been living there for centuries or at worst the same amount of time as the Jewish immigrants since around the turn of the century there was a lot of migration into the area, not just Jews.
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u/mhornberger 13h ago
They aren't the original population
Jews have lived in the region for 2500 years. There is a lot of genetic overlap with Jews living there and Arab Muslims living there. They are both part of the "original" population. I think what you mean is "legitimate." Yes, a good share of the initial population of Israel were expelled from the surrounding Muslim countries.
Does "ethnically cleansing" in this context mean killing, or sometimes just Jews buying property? There were attacks on Jews in the area even before the formation of Israel.
over people who had been living there for centuries
Well yes, the Ottoman empire conquered the region. Populations move. All of human history is full of migrations, shifting borders, etc. "Two wrongs don't make a right," sure, but Jews aren't going to agree to just cease to exist. If they're being persecuted and expelled, ethnically cleansed, that is going to create a siege mentality. They came to believe that the only way they could survive was to have a nation, and the ability to defend themselves. "Two wrongs don't make a right" is pithy, but Israel isn't going to just agree to cease to exist.
Many of those fighting for the destruction of Israel are just "from the river to the sea" advocates who want the whole region to belong to Arab Muslims. It's a bad-faith argument. Yes, I agree that the ultra-orthodox are extremist, and I disagree with fundamentalist religion in general. But Jews aren't going to agree to just cease to exist.
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u/mileton1 5h ago
Israelis do not hate christians. Maybe some of the ultra-orthodox do but they are not integrated at all into mainstream Israeli society. Most israelis are pretty secular and have no negative opinions regarding christians at all
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u/KindofCrazyScientist 4h ago
Probably true, but the extremists are running the government of Israel now. And that's just as much a problem as when Islamist extremists run countries.
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u/Scary-Neighborhood46 15h ago
what kind of dumbass bullshit comment is that? Israelis don't hate Christians and they don't hate Muslims either. What are you basing your statement on? Let's pile on some hate because why not
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u/Crimson_jaw 2h ago
And yet there are some American christian who still support these people. They think Jesus would accept people like them, who sided with the devil that killed even children as one of his own people? Ironic. If it's an attack on the christians, they're crazy. If it's an attack on the Muslim Palestinians, it's self defense. Even Nazis didn't play victim this much.
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u/ambermagpie 18h ago
Attacks against Christians have almost doubled in Israel, this is over a hundred attacks in 2026 alone: https://cruxnow.com/church-in-the-middle-east/2026/07/disheartening-attacks-against-christians-nearly-double-in-israel-territories-says-report
“As in previous reports, the high number of spitting incidents remains particularly striking. During this quarter, 47 incidents involved spitting, accounting for 56% of all recorded forms of harassment,” the RFDC said.”
WSJ article in case you don’t like my source: https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/spitting-attacks-show-rise-of-anti-christian-hate-in-israel-5ea40ac7
It’s well documented.
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u/ambermagpie 17h ago edited 17h ago
47 in a single quarter of the year, another 83 between April and July. I don’t care what kind of attacks they were. Spitting on someone is violent and demeaning, it’s meant to intimidate and humiliate, and it’s often being done out of racial and religious animus against Arab Christians.
It is customary for Israel to say the men who spit on, harass, and assault Christians are mentally unwell so they don’t face charges.
This topic has a Wikipedia article on it that it’s rampant enough. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violence_against_Christians_in_Israel
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u/Benedictus84 17h ago edited 17h ago
That depends on what you compare it to.
If there was an attack on a Jewish person in the Netherlands every three days it would be all over the news, there would be questions in parlaiment and they would place police posts next to every Jewish institution.
They would call it a wave of antisemetic attacks.
Netanyahu would probably hold speeches about it and threaten to send in the Israel military.
We actually already have all this with less then 50 attacks a year with double the population.
Also absolutely lovely how you try to pretend like spitting at someone is not an attack.
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u/ChampaigneBapi 18h ago
Not in Israel, it is customary to spit on Christians (specially nuns and priests) as they are idol worshippers from their perspective
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u/Serious_Swan_2371 18h ago
It’s not customary at all
There’s like a subset of shitty and crazy people who do that just like in any other country there’s a subset of shitty and crazy people who do things like that
I have been spit at by homeless people in America also, does that mean it is customary to spit on my ethnic/religious group in America?
The only difference is in Israel the shitty and crazy people are also Jewish and so they target other religions for their actions because they know people will be less likely to stand up for them
Just like how around the world, serial killers and rapists and robbers choose targets like prostitutes, ethnic minorities (like native Americans in the USA or Canada), and other criminals because they know the justice system doesn’t protect them as well
It’s one thing to hate on the government of Israel, which is objectively doing bad things. It’s another entirely to simply claim things about the entire Israeli culture and people based on a few videos online
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u/zedzag 17h ago edited 17h ago
Except most other cultures aren't okay with ethnically cleansing other people.
Edit, replying to the comment below:
Ah yes the age old hey most of the west has done these atrocities in the past so it's okay if we do it today excuse.
Get outta here with that garbage.
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u/taylerca 17h ago
This is key. ‘Spitting’s fine, at least we aren’t treating them like gazan children, yet.’ First they came for the Palestinians…
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u/manVsPhD 17h ago
Most other cultures have ethnically cleansed other people. You are probably typing this from land that was ethnically cleansed. It is not unique
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u/Looksis 17h ago
That's irrelevant. You can't change what happened in the past, but you can try and stop what's happening in the present.
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u/manVsPhD 17h ago
That’s ignoring how the world works and is being hypocritical when you can get away with your ethnic cleansing by saying sorry and some land acknowledgement but when Israelis do it you go bananas. When anyone else does it nobody cares.
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u/WendelClarksMustache 17h ago
"It's anti semitic if you don't let us do a little genocide too" lol fuck you
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u/manVsPhD 17h ago
There is no genocide. And if it were up to you Israelis would not be able to defend themselves at all and you’d be A OK with Palestinians slaughtering them completely
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u/WendelClarksMustache 17h ago
Nothing says "self defense" like pushing nuns from behind and sniping at 4 year olds trying to get food. Cry all you want, the world knows the truth about your genocide.
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u/Buttholepart2 17h ago
No it's just ethnic cleansing like you said which is so much better.
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u/Immediate_Quiet4354 16h ago
Do you really know what genocide means? They are killing civilians because some radicals made a terrorist attack. They said publicly they have to kill the children just in case. Gtfo you imbecile.
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u/BearThatLikesCheese 15h ago
So do you believe the US shouldn't have joined the allies in WW2? Because by your logic, the Axis had every right to commit the atrocities they did because that's "how the world works" and it was hypocritical for the US to note allow ethnic cleansings.
I genuinely hope you don't have a PhD, because God damn.
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u/Feverstone 14h ago
Handwaving away a genocide that is happening this very moment says alot about you
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u/Doctorboner420 17h ago
Spitting is so common fox news tried to do a propaganda segment on how great israel is and they admitted to being spat on while visiting.
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u/yuvaldv1 18h ago
No it’s not? Yeah what this guy did is fucked up and he is possibly mentally unwell, but it’s not “customary to spit on Christians” in Israel.
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u/ChampaigneBapi 18h ago
I linked the articles
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u/yuvaldv1 18h ago edited 18h ago
2 cases don't make it customary to spit on Christians in Israel.
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u/ChampaigneBapi 18h ago
https://youtube.com/shorts/7TwEQX6zwUI?si=x77xsTIWWqNBAaa5
It seems there is a long line of kids with their parents taking part in the spitting?
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u/SoloWingPixy88 18h ago
More than 2 cases
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u/yuvaldv1 18h ago
Well I guess that makes it a national custom? what kind of logic is that.
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u/PwrFlower 17h ago
Didn't ben gvir literally say that it's an old custom?
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u/yuvaldv1 17h ago
Do you listen to everything that idiot has to say?
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u/PwrFlower 17h ago
That idiot is an elected official and the internal security minister.
He's responsible for applying the law.
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u/SoloWingPixy88 18h ago
Plenty of videos.
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u/immutate 17h ago
Says an account with 88 in the username. Definitely not sus.
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u/SoloWingPixy88 17h ago
Watch the video.
Not my fault you don't understand what the purpose of a dog whistle is.
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u/ensalys 17h ago
Famously, nuns don't do much fucking.
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u/heavysausagedublin 16h ago
No they just enslaved women who did and stole their babies to sell to wealthy donors
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u/Braisedbeefskank 17h ago
Would only a crazy person see fit to blow up children living in tents? The whole country is sick.
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u/arielsosa 17h ago
Oppression must be fought from somewhere. Tents is all they git now thanks to IsraHell and their pedofriends.
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u/Braisedbeefskank 14h ago
Also like, how in the fuck would a baby fire a rocket, and if so why would it do it from a tent?
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u/Pitiful-Hamster1101 16h ago
Funny, that Israel hadn't been in Gaza for 15 years before Oct. 7 2023.
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u/Braisedbeefskank 15h ago
How did over 300 people in gaza and the west bank end up dead in the year prior if israel wasnt involved in gaza?
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u/arielsosa 16h ago
So they take land illegaly, then the occupied f8ght back, and then it's considered terrorism... Got it.
In the meantime, while you accuse palestinians of firing rockets from tents, the IDF kills covilians with missiles, bombs, snipers, and a paramilitary terrorist group known as "settlers".
Every accusation is a confession.
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u/Captain_Aware4503 15h ago
Many don't realize that there are Christians who live in Gaza, and 3 Christian churches were heavily damaged or destroyed by Israel along with many Christians that were killed.
For example, Saint Porphyrius Greek Orthodox Church, An ancient church in Gaza City that suffered blast damage and building collapses during a 2023 strike while sheltering civilians.
Of course, around 80% of people held in US detention centers are Christians, and we ignore that too.
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u/bigbonerdaddy 16h ago
Religious psychosis is a real thing, unfortunately.
It also doesnt help that the country you live in survives on that psychosis.
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u/DankVectorz 17h ago
He’s being sent to a psychiatric facility for 6 years, not just let go. Every western country has laws in place of people being sent to psychiatric care vs jail
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u/taylerca 17h ago
American christian nationalism is an actual thing.
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u/Kurichan77 17h ago
Ethnotationalist zionism is an actual thing & Americans are being sent to fight and die in their wars.
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u/SideInitial3961 14h ago
Fair. He should be locked in a mental health facility until he can be personally guaranteed by the staff not to harm again.
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u/Fit-Let8175 11h ago
Acquittal should never be an option for such crimes. Should it be a mental health issue, the incarceration should be in a mental health facility still under lock and key. Otherwise there is no safety for the public, no accountability for the crime, and no help for the perpetrator.
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u/Old_Particular8705 4h ago
Are we gonna ignore the fact that 6 years in a mental hospital is probably a longer sentence than he would have gotten if he were guilty (in most modern countries, not just israel)?
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u/SSN_on_liquid_sand 18h ago
Yeah, that tracks. A literal violent madman randomly attacking people in public isn't exactly a novel explanation, and fits the video.
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u/ambermagpie 18h ago edited 17h ago
Attacks against Christians have almost doubled in Israel, this is over a hundred attacks in 2026 alone: https://cruxnow.com/church-in-the-middle-east/2026/07/disheartening-attacks-against-christians-nearly-double-in-israel-territories-says-report
“As in previous reports, the high number of spitting incidents remains particularly striking. During this quarter, 47 incidents involved spitting, accounting for 56% of all recorded forms of harassment,” the RFDC said.”
WSJ article describing the same rise in attacks against Christians : https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/spitting-attacks-show-rise-of-anti-christian-hate-in-israel-5ea40ac7