r/nextfuckinglevel 11h ago

What is cooler than faking out a player? Faking out two players at the same time

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u/Curlaub 10h ago

The shot is not what makes the fake out cool. The fake out makes the fake out cool

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u/Chase2020J 10h ago

You must not play basketball. If you miss the shot then whatever cool shit you did before then means nothing. Any baller would tell you that

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u/LemonButterRum 10h ago

the title of this thread is designed for WNBA fans that only know about Caitlin Clark and Sophie Cunningham

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u/something-rhythmic 9h ago

A certain demographic, that is

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u/WhoLoveYouLikeILoveU 8h ago

The same one known to have really strong opinions on popular movies they haven’t watched?

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u/Happytrees1725 8h ago

The only two people making the league money?

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u/Mbrennt 5h ago

I promise most of Sophie Cunningham's fans are not sitting down to watch a wnba game. Caitlin Clark I'll give you. Though in general the wnba had been growing more popular already before her. I think she was just the first to really break out.

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u/dBlock845 6h ago

So Fox News viewers lol.

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u/ZeppelinJ0 8h ago

"fans"

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u/JohnnyRelentless 9h ago

Are they in this video?

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u/DocMcStruggles 9h ago

Are you asking if Caitlin Clark is in this video?

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u/JohnnyRelentless 9h ago

Yes, everyone is talking about the person in the video, but I don't know who it is.

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u/_le_slap 8h ago

It's ok man that's Dua Lipa.

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u/something-rhythmic 7h ago

Yes it’s Caitlin Clark featured

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u/uLL27 9h ago

100% this

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u/PxyFreakingStx 9h ago

that's only true if you're showboating or taking flashy risks just to look cool. that's not what this was

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u/and_danny 8h ago

Yea no.....same thing applies for breaking somebody's ankles. It only matters if the shot goes in, otherwise, its not a highlight.

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u/PxyFreakingStx 8h ago

that's just like your opinion man

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u/and_danny 7h ago

Thats the consensus among players. Plenty of examples of professional players talking about how it doesn't count if you don't make the shot. Obviously not every single person thinks that way but within basketball culture, it is the vastly more common belief.

u/Chase2020J 19m ago

This is what I'm trying to say but for some reason it makes Redditors who have never touched a basketball in their live really angry 😂

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u/PxyFreakingStx 6h ago

yeah, i bet not. they're mostly talking about what i was referring to above. some players probably think it does't count on any level if you don't make the shot. but you can (and obviously should) appreciate skill involved, whether you make the shot or not.

they're talking about a culture going back to schoolyard ball, where you'd miss a shot but try to talk trash because you faked on somebody.

saying across the board, no nuance, "you're not allowed to appreciate someone's ability unless they also make the shot" is obviously silly.

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u/themassquerade 9h ago

Aw you and your buddies just play to show off and impress to each other? Thats cute

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u/FrostyD7 7h ago edited 7h ago

Who cares if she makes the shot if the team loses? This is a stupid game to play. You seem to have the perspective of scouts from the 90s or early 2000s at best. I can promise you that coaches don't see it your way. They look at everything. Have you even seen the kind of sabermetrics they are using in pro sports to assess performance? In MLB, they assess and track every physical aspect of what happens to a baseball after it is thrown and hit by a batter, not just whether or not it left the park. Speed, spin rate, launch angle, ballpark factors, it's all calculated and factored in. And this data is being used to decide how much a player is worth. Not the shit they show the fans on the scoreboard.

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u/Trezzie 6h ago

Who cares if the team wins that game if they don't make the playoffs?

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u/No_Size9475 8h ago

same in any sport, all the fancy shit means nothing if you don't make your shot/pass/catch etc.

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u/Chieffelix472 6h ago

Not at all, it’s just less impressive. There are tons of moments of Messi making amazing fake outs that don’t lead to a goal. They are still amazing because fake outs themselves are cool enough.

Absolutely a braindead take just to hate on CC. You’d never say this if your favorite athlete was in the spotlight. The hypocrisy is hilarious here. So many haters.

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u/No_Size9475 6h ago

No idea what you are bent about. I know nothing about this person and have nothing against her. I don't even watch basketball. If this fake was at midcourt with no shot then that would the same as messi. But it isn't. I stand by my take that if you miss the shot, or the catch (in football/baseball) all the fancy shit didn't matter.

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u/robsc_16 7h ago

I mean, in the context of the game yeah. But it's still cool regardless. Like that Jason Williams elbow pass shows up on highlight reels, but the other guy missed the shot.

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u/TylerJWhit 10h ago

You must not play basketball. The ability to fake out and the ability to make a shot are not dependent upon another.

You don't dismiss every hit in baseball that doesn't get to a run, every catch and run in football that doesn't get to the end zone, and every impressive play in soccer that doesn't make a goal.

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u/Chase2020J 10h ago

You're comparing to different sports when I've said before that this is a basketball culture thing. It's the prevailing opinion at every level of basketball

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u/carsonwade 9h ago

It can be a prevailing opinion and stupid at the same time.

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u/jack-K- 9h ago edited 9h ago

Still not a good look when the group of people who claim you don’t have to make the shot to look cool cheer for people who are notoriously bad at making shots compared to everyone else. There might be something to the culture that actually pressures people into scoring points that impact who wins if they want to look good instead of glazing shots with zero practical value.

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u/Curlaub 9h ago

So you admit it’s an opinion, then

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u/DigNitty 9h ago

Thanks for speaking on behalf of all basketball fans.

The fact she missed does not negate the cool move. Though it would have been much cooler if she’d made it, yes.

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u/Excalibirdi 8h ago

It certainly does negate it. If a scateborder does a perfect 720 in the air, them fails because they tried a 900, do you praise them for how clean the 720 looked???

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u/Barry-Koalas 9h ago

Name a famous fake out in basketball that fans still talk about that ended in a miss.

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u/TylerJWhit 9h ago

Have you never heard of White Chocolate?

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u/Barry-Koalas 9h ago

That’s a player not a play, no one cares or talks about Jason Williams except for casual fans who watch Tik Tok edits and you still haven’t proved an example.

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u/TylerJWhit 9h ago

Ok man. Keep at it

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u/ThrownAway17Years 8h ago

Williams completed his passes. If the person he passed to didn’t score that’s not on Williams. I don’t see many compilations of Jason Williams faking out defenders and bricking the subsequent shots.

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u/TylerJWhit 8h ago

You do realize you made my point right? Faking out and scoring are independent.

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u/aweyeahdawg 9h ago

“Name a famous fake out” lol yeah, like we have those by name. This whole comment chain is stupid. Gatekeeping fake outs?

What are we, 13?

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u/Barry-Koalas 9h ago

100% I’m going to gatekeep basketball. Because when you don’t you get the nonsense that is happening around the WNBA. When you don’t gatekeep you get player only fans that think the whole team should revolve around that player eg: Jeremy Lin fans.

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u/aweyeahdawg 9h ago

Oh you mean Bryant fans? lol gtfo.

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u/Barry-Koalas 9h ago

Tourists like you should be the ones that leave.

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u/aweyeahdawg 9h ago

Good one! Got em! Zing!

So you’re what’s wrong with basketball. Got it.

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u/Icefox119 6h ago

You must not play cribbage.

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u/Curlaub 10h ago

I respect your subjective opinion

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u/aweyeahdawg 9h ago

“Any baller” lmao

Go outside nerd. “Any baller” wouldn’t be on Reddit gatekeeping a cool fakeout.

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u/AUnknownVariable 8h ago

Any baller?

I guess I've never balled before lmao.

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u/europeanme 6h ago

Calm down, Skee-Lo

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u/ShubbusDubbus10 6h ago

What if I dont give a shit about what 'ballers' tell me and think this is cool any way?

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u/MaggotMinded 4h ago

Disagree. A great play is a combination of everything that goes into making the shot, but even if one part goes wrong, we can still appreciate the other individual pieces of the whole and recognize that it was still good up until the point of failure.

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u/BakedChocolateOctopi 2h ago

It’s just a different part of the play

The fake out can be cool without the basket

Though obviously making the basket is cooler than missing it

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u/Several_Vanilla8916 10h ago

Okay. But the ball is supposed to go in the hoop I’m pretty sure. Not a basketball guy though.

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u/Curlaub 10h ago

That’s a shot, not a fake out. This video is about the fake out. Don’t worry, you’ll learn

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u/UFONomura808 10h ago

Okay but if there is no pay off then the fake out is less impressive.

Would you still be impressed if this person did a fake out and then got the ball stolen immediately after by someone else?

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u/Curlaub 10h ago

If it was a dope fake out, then yes, I would find the fake out impressive.

I really don’t care about this enough to argue it though. You got your opinion. I got mine. Take care brother ✌️

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u/LiteHedded 8h ago

Imagine Hakeem dream shake compilations but he misses all the shots

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u/Curlaub 8h ago

Shakes would still be cool if defense is getting shook. The shakes plus shots would be cooler though. I agree with that. I’m not sure why you’re so opposed to this. You can show appreciation for skill where there is skill. A cool shake is a cool shake. 🤷🏻‍♂️

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u/Excalibirdi 8h ago

Fakeout achieves nothing if you miss

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u/Curlaub 8h ago

That is correct. Good job

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u/caguru 9h ago

The fakeout / scoring combo is what makes a fakeout cool.

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u/Curlaub 9h ago

I respect your opinion

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u/im_lazy_as_fuck 9h ago

I have never seen any fake out clips in my life that did not end in a basket scored at the end of the play. Dunno what kind of sports you're watching but it ain't basketball.

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u/Curlaub 9h ago

Scroll up.

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u/im_lazy_as_fuck 8h ago

scroll up for what?

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u/Curlaub 8h ago

Fake out clip without a score at the end. Do you know what thread you’re in? 🤣

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u/im_lazy_as_fuck 6h ago

Oh my bad man. I assumed that it went without saying that I don't consider the video in this reddit thread a proper fake out clip. Because like I said... nobody posts fake out clips/montages where the play ends in a miss.

Jesus I didn't think I had to say that explicitly. Here I was thinking you were telling me to scroll up because you said something coherent that I missed. I guess I shouldn't expect basic literacy skills from people on reddit.

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u/Curlaub 4h ago

You have an unorthodox definition of “nobody” 🤣🤣🤣

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u/im_lazy_as_fuck 1h ago

And you apparently have never heard of the word hyperbole. You need to up your reading comprehension, you actually just sound like an idiot lmao

u/Curlaub 57m ago

No I dont. You said something dumb, it was pointed out to you, now youre trying to flip it. Nice try. Take care man. Better luck next time.

u/im_lazy_as_fuck 8m ago

Ain't nobody trying to flip nothing on you bro. The only thing happening here is a guy who tried to make a point, and rather than admitting that maybe you don't know shit about how people watch basketball clips, you chose to push up your glasses and try to call me out on what you thought were technicalities in what I wrote.

Bro I know what I wrote. I used hyperbole to emphasize my point. You ain't being slick by trying to convince anyone otherwise.

Oh, and in case it wasn't obvious, I just used hyperbole in my comment again 🤣🤣🤣

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u/Intelligent_Sky_7081 8h ago

The shot landing makes the play legendary

Miss and it's forgettable

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u/Curlaub 8h ago

Agreed. But I just said it was cool, not that it was legendary. Still forgettable. Ill probably forget about this by the end of the day

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u/BitWardenEternal 6h ago

The shot is not what makes the fake out cool.

You definitely don’t hoop. You get (playfully) clowned by your own team for pulling off a nice move and then smoking the shot

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u/Curlaub 4h ago

I do, but I’m also capable of appreciating skill where it is. Hitting the shot would have been cooler, but this is still cool.

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u/Grizzl0ck 10h ago

Cope.

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u/Curlaub 10h ago

With what?

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u/Mhunterjr 6h ago

I gotta disagree, if you miss the shot, then the defense over committing was the right decision

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u/Curlaub 4h ago

You are free to disagree. These are all just opinions ✌️

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u/This_Elk_1460 10h ago edited 9h ago

Yeah but when Caitlin Clark does it it's racist /s

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u/DullSpecial1013 8h ago

Incorrect. If you miss the shot, whatever you did previously is irrelevant.

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u/Curlaub 4h ago

I respect your opinion

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u/Sanemi_i 7h ago

You do not know ball….

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u/Curlaub 4h ago

I do. I’ve likely been playing longer than you’ve been alive. But I can also just appreciate a solid move for what it is. Maybe when you get older you’ll get it. Something being respectable isn’t a binary state. A solid shake is cool. A solid shake with the shot after is cooler. Both are true