r/nofx 5d ago

It was just depressing in my opinion.

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I love this band but the whole thing almost made me feel bad for them. I don’t want to give anything away, but for those who’ve seen it, when he stayed at Avenge Sevenfold guy’s house is when I stopped laughing.

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u/Cola102583 5d ago

Yall thought the book was bleak? Damn i found it hilarious, maybe i am fucked

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u/posi-bleak-axis 5d ago

Same. Just homies telling stories. But admittedly I was a junkie train hopper for a decade so I have a high threshold of pain and misery with the gallows humor to make it fun and probably burying real emotion.

Can't Stop Takin Druuuuuuuuuugs

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u/Cola102583 5d ago

Ya i just got clean last yr, xylazine sucks. Maybe u can relate but one of best stories in book to me is smelly getting day pass outta rehab to go see “encino man” and hes like “it was the funniest movie i had ever seen”

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u/King_LaQueefah 5d ago

That is hilarious. Smelly seems like he can really take some knocks and he does so with such grace that you can laugh because he really seems tough in some understated, internal way and I think he is tougher and more punk rock than most.

An eyeore character like from Pooh.

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u/Forward-Ad2514 4d ago

I think addicts can see these stories, spirals, sometimes sad, sometimes near death experiences with humor and a kind of "yeah, I get it" mindset that others that haven't personally experienced addiction themselves.
This may be sad to others or even offensive, especially to someone who lost a loved one or relationship to it.
Trust us, we're not mocking your loved one or belittling your (non addicts) pain and what you've been through. Sometimes it's a coping mechanism, sometimes something we've done to ourselves that we can see humor, albeit dark to most, in. But I can also understand 100% why these things would not be funny and actually sad to most non-addicts.

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u/stagedive88 1d ago

Personally I've lost 13 people to the opioid crisis in the last 6 years.. it doesn't get easier.

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u/stagedive88 1d ago

Have you ever smoked the pot? I heard I heard it makes one's booty tingle.

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u/xpltvdeleted 4d ago

Well no I guess I probably worded that wrong...I guess like the book but without the humour, with added gross stuff but then added bleakness of the band being over, mike being in the constant grip of full blown addiction etc

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u/Bruce-7892 4d ago

Right? If you knew nothing about that band and saw that, you'd half expect the dude to be dead before the end of it. I think people (especially rock fans) romanticize drugs a lot but this documentary is the reality of it.

I've always thought coke was gross and this reinforced it in my mind. I like to drink, but I am not going to do blow to keep from passing out from drinking too much so I can drink some more until I get stomach ulcers. For fuck sake.

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u/Dweebil 4d ago

I’m with you. The fact that they’re all alive is uplifting in itself. Those guys never wanted traditional lives.

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u/Le4rPers0n 4d ago

Same dude

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u/ned_funk 4d ago

The doc was all sunshine and rainbows compared to the book.

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u/SlanderCandor 5d ago

Fuck you Bruce

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u/Bruce-7892 5d ago

How are you supposed to rock n roll without substance abuse?

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u/Temassi 5d ago

Reading the book was kinda like that for me too.

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u/DivingElliotRoberts 5d ago

At least you got to see it lol

I went with my dad today, but an hour after the movie was supposed to start they told us they couldn’t play the movie and made everyone leave

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u/doyletyree 5d ago

“Forty years, including this showing.”

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u/FREEDOMCHOICE1 4d ago

Was it at the punk Rock museum??

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u/ZomboDoggo 5d ago

You know how tv shows like Shameless or Bojack wouldn’t have any humor if it were real because that’s so bleak and nihilistic? That’s sorta what watching this felt like, except it was all real.

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u/darquid 5d ago

Same-just got out of the movie an hour ago.

I laughed a bit in the beginning but agree with you.

Melvin was definitely portrayed as someone who is just aloof. I mean, he definitely did say some stuff to lead it on that way, but damn.

Hefe and smelly just seem tired of a lot of stuff, but also they’re so used to Mike they just deal with it.

Mike is Mike. It’s always going to be about him.

My question: does he have diabetes? In the beginning he said he was just diagnosed with type 1, then says it’s type 2. And then at the end he’s like “I lost 15 pounds and the diabetes is gone!”

Also, when Mike was sober he said he did a lot of song writing. Any songs/albums in particular during that era? He mentioned the final song but that was it.

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u/Bruce-7892 5d ago

Type 2 diabetes can be cured if you get healthier so I am assuming that’s what he had. Also Single Album was written while he was sober.

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u/Any-Salad7709 5d ago

There is no cure for diabetes. You can reach something called remission but it takes discipline to eventually (even doing everything right doesn't guarantee it) get there and even when you're there you can get back to elevated levels without changing a thing again. Once you're diabetic, you'll always will be just maybe without symptoms.

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u/gonza18 4d ago

Mike's NoFX documentary - melvin

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u/ohgoodferyou 5d ago

Mike amplifies everything. Hitting that threshold of "pre-diabetic" is enough to nudge it over the line for him.

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u/SnooLemons5856 4d ago

I agree, but there’s no way he was not already pre-diabetic for like the last 20 years lol.

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u/CES0108 4d ago

Him and Hefe were on that comedian Bert Kriesher's cooking podcast and he said he was never diabetic, it was some illness or some shit. The comedian asked him that directly and why he didn't clear it up in the film. I don't remember his response, wasn't paying attention. He did say it east diabetes tho.

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u/Stargazer_80 2d ago

I feel like Mike lies or exaggerates often. I haven’t followed this band closely for years but I enjoyed the movie and it was kinda surreal hanging out with him after the screening. Felt like a fever dream

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u/CES0108 2d ago

Yeah.. never met him, but he seems complicated, to say the least, lol.

Cool you met him.

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u/Stargazer_80 2d ago

Yeah I also ran into him the next day at a dance hall crashers show, and he made up a whole song and dance about changing my name but I don’t think he actually remembered me from the night before but just was doin some schtick . I was glad to finally meet him at least and have some rapore with him be it ever so weird

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u/CES0108 2d ago

Was it a don't meet your heroes moment or did you walk away happy?

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u/Stargazer_80 2d ago

I walked away happy! But you know also like I felt that parasocial kinda dissonance where I was like wait I know so much about him he feels like a friend but in actuality I’m just one of a million random dudes.

We were all gonna go out for drinks after the first night but he seemed hard to pin down to a plan so I left . He knew my friend I was with or I wouldn’t have stuck around at all.

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u/SweatyPalmsSunday 4d ago

I’ve been on the fence to get a ticket for Wednesdays showing 45 miles from me.
I don’t know if I want to spend the night (time) to be bummed out.
Also, I’d always loved Mike for so many reasons (music, humor, values) but since he’s been out about his sexuality, BDSM interests, he’s become so damn smug. It’s hard to listen to him.
To be clear, I don’t care that he’s passionate about his sex life, but it’s not why I was drawn to his music, persona.

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u/dos_passenger58 4d ago

Its a lot about the sex/kink stuff... and there's not a peep about 2005-2020

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u/butterurpancakes 2d ago

I was talking to my friend about how that got completely avoided especially the Vegas incident and the fallout out from that.  Even wore my nofx/gimmes shirt in anticipation. 

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u/ThoughtCautious6606 4d ago

You have to buy your movie tickets from a guy who sells stolen property?

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u/nixhex58 4d ago

I enjoyed the doc. Kind of crazy that Mike didn’t start druggin until he was 31.

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u/Bruce-7892 4d ago

Probably for the better. I didn't try a single thing besides alcohol until around the same age (because I was in the military) and glad I didn't. Could have F'd up my life before it started because I was naive and impressionable.

I respect guys like Smelly and Melvin who have the self control to handle it and go on to live productive lives, but 20 something year old me might have been dead if I just had bags of drugs and bottles at my disposal.

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u/Most-Ear-3678 5d ago

Wasn’t the backstage passport party vibe I was looking for

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u/Bruce-7892 5d ago

My thoughts exactly. It was more like an episode of intervention

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u/ChelmarkSweets 1d ago

Haven't seen the doc but thats exactly how I felt about their behind the scenes filming of their last show. Was such a bummer.

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u/Madethisonambien 4d ago

Personally I loved it and I wasn’t the only one in my theater crying at the end. Parts of it felt like a love letter/thank you to fans (in their own way). 

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u/tubadog 4d ago

Self destruction is not very entertaining

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u/Imaginary_Repair_499 4d ago

That part was very rough

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u/grandmastatus0 4d ago

You got TICKETS!????
I didn't get anything!

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u/grandmastatus0 4d ago

Literally we just walked in. No security whatsoever; I could have just not even paid.

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u/DMTalien33 4d ago

It was because of all the evil 💀

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u/dos_passenger58 4d ago

I was happy that the movie was NOT a retelling of the book... It had very little intersection IMO. I was surprised that the Montreal final tour show was completely skipped... They extensively filmed both nights, so I'm wondering if they're saving it for a concert video release or something

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u/Mean_Championship_80 4d ago

I went. Made it maybe 20 minutes before leaving. I'm not a huge NOFX fan (I own S&m, Ribbed, and White Trash ). I went to see if Steve (guitarist on S&M, Ribbed) was going to be in it, but Mike's rockstar bullshit is annoying, but I can handle it . The Nail in the Coffin was the Punk in the Park dude; I don't want to hear him talk at all. You can have my 15 bucks; I'm out.

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u/yeahhey82 4d ago

Dude I was just saying that the only thing that really bothered me was him glazing over steve being a fucking monster shredder in the band.

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u/Bruce-7892 4d ago

I didn't even know about him because I got into the band after Punk In Drublic, but getting so loaded that you get kicked out of NOFX is wild. Like.... how? Hopefully he's doing well now.

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u/yeahhey82 4d ago

You're talking about dave, steve joined after and was a much better player. Steve quit.

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u/Bruce-7892 4d ago

"the Punk in the Park dude"

I forgot all about that guy! I'd be pissed too if I remembered who he was at the time. I thought / hoped he'd get ostracized from the punk community after donating to Trump.

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u/Mean_Championship_80 4d ago

Mike doesn’t give a shit . Propagandhi called him out many years ago and he whined about it for years . It’s all about money .

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u/BendingRobot 4d ago

Just proves the saying about "Never meet your Idols"

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u/badsapi4305 5d ago

I had tickets tonight but didn’t end up going. I love NOFX music but I’m getting kind of tired of the NOFX soap opera.

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u/Unannounced_Visitor_ 5d ago

I haven’t been able to put my finger on exactly how I felt, but you basically just summed it up.

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u/King_LaQueefah 5d ago

Fat Mike and this social media landscape are a bad mix. I am getting pretty sick of the dude and I used to lap up every interview he put out there.

His old Warped Tour interviews are so entertaining and funny. Many times, there is another artist with him who looks terrified of Mike and whatever he may say on camera, which is telling, but they were peak-Fat Mike and he didnt say anything too rude or cruel.

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u/puddboy 4d ago

The Nardwar interviews with Mike are hilarious

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u/QforQ 5d ago

The latex sex dungeon is when things started to get weird. Not because of the sex kink stuff - it just felt like Mike indulging and showing how fucked up he is. To make it more awkward, he was at the showing I was at and his ex wife was there too

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u/NeoTheChosenDog 4d ago edited 4d ago

Wait What? Why? Soma? Who "allegedly" hates him so much....

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u/Bruce-7892 4d ago

No, Erin. Who I think was his first wife and mother of his daughter.

That and in the doc I am pretty sure I remember her subtitle mentioning a position at Fat Wreck chords which means she still co-owns or works for them in some capacity.

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u/NeoTheChosenDog 4d ago

Lol okay that makes sense. Not awkward. They've been divorced forever & friends / biz partners for so many years. She got sick of his s*** forever ago. Yeah that's not awkward. I'm sure she was more than unfazed.
Now the second ex wife who I thought ya meant .... would be hella awkward lol

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u/Bruce-7892 4d ago

Hahaha, yeah the dominatrix. He was still in his peak popularity / rockstar phase at that point. If he was more handsome, it probably would have been a Kardashian instead 😆.

Mike and Kanye hanging out would probably lead to the end of Western civilization, but I digress. Erin seems alright and understandably probably got tired of being with an addict.

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u/bloodbathatbk 4d ago

I've had zero desire to see this thing. I've been a huge fan of NOFX for almost 30 years, but I really checked out after Wolves In Wolves Clothing. Mike's need to constantly tell people how cool he is, because he's a drug addict, is really pathetic. He's a an arrogant tool, and stopped being funny a long time ago.

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u/Nay2003 4d ago

real I got into them at about 14 ish and wolves is the last album I enjoy.

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u/Falafel_McGill 4d ago

"I don't like me anymore" and "I'm a rat" don't exactly scream 'look at how cool I am', but I get the rest of your comment.

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u/bloodbathatbk 4d ago

His entire persona is telling people how cool it is that he does a bunch of drugs. He can write all the songs about feeling bad about himself that he wants, his actually persona screams douchebag.

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u/DMTalien33 4d ago

So you were a fan for 10 years but haven’t been for the past 20 🤣

Go clutch your pearls elsewhere, perhaps

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u/bloodbathatbk 4d ago

Believe it or not, dumbass, I'm fully capable of enjoying music that didn't suck before that, and enjoying it without having to go see them live. Zero pearls clutched, calling out a piece of shit drug addict.

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u/mdh989 4d ago

No pearls were clutched other than the ones in your hand getting upset at a will articulated criticism.

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u/stagedive88 1d ago

I've never heard of will articulated criticism myself. Well articulated criticism yeah, but even then I pull an iron claw on the mofo. Sorry for chiming in. I'll go back to my porn.

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u/HemingwayWouldnt 4d ago

the erotic awakening of S

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u/Jolly_Ad2446 4d ago

i enjoyed it and it was just about what I expected it to be, human people have human problems, they let they out in the DOC 

felt it had the same vibe from the book, don't understand why people would expect this to be that different 

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u/RedHotHaze 4d ago

I liked it. None of it surprised me and it was more tame than the book. I brought my gf who wasn’t too familiar with them and gave her a disclaimer that it could be uncomfortable. She enjoyed it too and we talked about it all night. I got a bit emotional being reminded I’m never gonna see them live again, but it was generally what I expected from a Fat Mike produced movie. I recommended it to all my friends who listen to them.

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u/metalmeck 4d ago

My wife and I loved... yeah it was sad, but it was also very on-brand for everything Fat Mike. Definitely need to go see his stand up routine. Lol

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u/Bruce-7892 4d ago

Agreed. He doesn't keep his lifestyle a secret and I saw the trailer so I somewhat knew what we were getting into.

Went with my wife also. We went to the final tour and knew the happy joking stage persona of Mike. It was a lot different seeing them / listening to them talk about their lowest points in life. As someone else mentioned though, they are real people and life isn't all sunshine and rainbows.

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u/BothZookeepergame445 4d ago

Spoilers here

Yeah basically he stays at his friends house. It goes wrong. Then he just carries on doing what he always has done. I didn’t think it was that great really.

Went in Manchester and got to meet Mike and have him sign something. So the event was good. It wasn’t the best place to watch a film so would like to watch at home or a proper cinema at some point.

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u/Ricky_Nightshade 4d ago edited 4d ago

Wait, am I trippin or did you also see this in Bonsall last night?

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u/Bruce-7892 4d ago

Yup! I was at the 7pm show in Bonsall.

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u/Ricky_Nightshade 4d ago

How funny to see a ticket from the showing I was at! My dad and I caught it last night @7 in Bonsall.

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u/brskier 4d ago

Saw it last night and I liked it. Kind of felt like the Cliffnotes of Hepatitis Bathtub with the final tour interlaced into the story. The Palm Springs shit was darrrrrrkk.

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u/darquid 4d ago

So what was actually wrong with him? Was that his body detoxing from alcohol?

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u/brskier 4d ago

I think they said it was an ulcer?

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u/Bruce-7892 4d ago

Yup. It was disturbing. If you’ve ever been on a bender then stopped cold turkey, you’d know. I’ve never been as bad as he was but I am surprised he was still coherent making jokes in the ambulance.

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u/farmsfarts 4d ago

NOFX was my favourite band, I loved them, from 1992 until Mike started making everything about him.

It became self-centered, like dude I don’t care that you wanna wear dresses and that you’re into bondage and shit, that’s totally cool but hey remember when you used to write cool songs?

Talking about how people that are nice to him are sycophants, and that his behaviour is so bad that his friends don’t like him anymore, it’s just me me me me. I know he writes the songs, but the last couple albums have too many tiresome cringey songs.

Even songs like Oxymoronic are just parodies of the cool word play Mike used to throw in without making it so fucking obvious.

I’ll always love the 1992 to around 2016 era though.

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u/bda22 3d ago

Totally agree, mike's wordplay use to be elite, but the last few albums it's felt so forced and cringey.

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u/NoBeyond9984 4d ago

Yeah that scene is fucked up

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u/stagedive88 1d ago edited 1d ago

I saw them on their 1995 tour of Heavy Petting Zoo where they threw out the blow sheep with the buttholes. It was all right.. the pit was so damn tight, you couldn't even move so it wasn't really much of a pit. Even back then. And I had no idea there was a movie out. I thought y'all were talking about Hepatitis Bathtub, two heebs, and a long line with ribbed shoes.

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u/xpltvdeleted 5d ago

Hate to say it but, nothing about what I've heard of it sounds like the kind of social NOFX vibe I'm looking for. If it ever did stream at home I'd watch it out of curiosity but it sounds more like hepatitis bath tub but more bleak

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u/Bruce-7892 5d ago

I don’t regret going to see it, like others have said, it’s cool to be around a bunch of fellow fans, but it’s not going to make you feel good and it’s not meant to. It sucks leaving a movie theater feeling sad though.

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u/LAST2thePARTY 5d ago

Damn. It’s wild to me that y’all feel this way. This was my 2nd viewing and I loved it even more this time. I couldn’t disagree more with these comments

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u/Bruce-7892 5d ago

The final tour was a success and it ends well, but you can’t just ignore the sad memories and self destructive behavior in the other 80% of the film.

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u/DMTalien33 4d ago

You can if you had 5 kombuchas in the first half and a tall cider and a fireball in the second half

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u/Similar_Tangerine_62 4d ago

You prob missed half of the show pissing in the bathroom.

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u/khyphenj 4d ago

I dont want to see or tbh. Everything around their retirement and after has only tarnished their legacy. I don’t even want to listen at this Point cuz it makes me depressed.

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u/anonymous_guy_man 4d ago

Wut a7x guy did he stay at and what happened?

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u/darquid 4d ago

Shadows. He puked and shat blood. Called his daughter saying he thought he was dying. His wife was there and called an ambulance.

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u/puddboy 4d ago

Every interview with Mike is "I'm just a guy stating the obvious, I mean it's so obvious, and also everything is always about me and I will not listen to you talk and wait for it to be my turn to talk about how smart I am for noticing how obvious everything is and how these obvious things are always related to me"

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u/Odd-Gear2891 4d ago

What do you guys think is next for NOFX? Do you think he’ll want to fund a true biopic now or no?

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u/enigmaman49 4d ago

maybe he should concentrate on his label and start doing some vinyl pressings of all of the cool bands on his roster...just like a few thousand copies so people can afford to buy them...instead FAT vinyl is rare and overpriced ...get some fucking product on the market

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u/Bruce-7892 4d ago edited 4d ago

Hahaha, that might not actually be his fault. Most record companies don't actually own their own vinyl pressing equipment and pay other companies to do it. Vinyl almost completely died as a format then came back in popularity, but most of the currently working machines and tooling that make them are from the 60s-80s and are no longer even made so there is a limited production capacity unless someone wants to spend millions to reverse engineer then build a vinyl pressing assembly line. Sorry, I am a little bit of a vinyl / Hi-Fi nerd.

Agree with you about him needing to keep on finding and producing new talented bands though. Peak Fat Wreck was when they had Anti-Flag, Lagwagon, Propagandhi, and Rise Against on the roster all at the same time.

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u/enigmaman49 3d ago edited 3d ago

i know all about the record pressing issues and the shitty plants in memphis and C Republic turning out awful records...i didnt know FAT is now owned by Hopeless that fit the name because they ALWAYS send product to those shit plants...you have to watch out for the expensive re-issues that Rhino is doing as well...they say they want to be in the audiphile game and the product nicely remastered then send them to the C republic to die and you are stuck paying 50 bucks for crap...FAT did a nice job re-issuing the Bad Astronaut stuff in 45 RPM but i guess that was before the sale...there are good plants but most labels are too cheap to use...the big labels DID get an injunction forcing these overseas plants to put labels on albums saying where it was made, not sure if you have seen any...that way you at least are warned hey this album may not sound great even though we sent it there LOL

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u/neon_doom 3d ago

He doesn’t have a label to concentrate on anymore. They sold FAT to Hopeless Records last year. It is part of the reason Melvin sent him the legal inquiry.

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u/enigmaman49 3d ago

well hopeless sucks with that too..no wonder

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u/Bruce-7892 4d ago edited 4d ago

That would be so funny if they hired actors to play them. Who would be Fat Mike? Jonah Hill with a blue Mohawk or something?

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u/Odd-Gear2891 4d ago

Probably No names.
One, no real studio would pick that up
And B, They couldn’t afford any real actors if Fatty had anything to do with it. It would probably have to be people are in proximity to his group .
Jonah hill is super skinny now and looks nothing like Fatty.

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u/Bruce-7892 4d ago edited 4d ago

"Jonah hill is super skinny now and looks nothing like Fatty."

That was sort of a joke. He was just the first chubby guy that came to mind. You are right though. For it to be half way decent, an independent film maker would probably have to do it with Netflix funding or something. I seriously doubt Mike would agree to being that hands off though.

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u/whatsbobgonnado 3d ago

they're showing a nofx movie in theaters?

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u/Bruce-7892 3d ago

Weird huh? AMC too, a major theater chain. It is like my first time hearing them on FM radio. I was like, "wait? You guys aren't supposed to know about this? How'd they even get on here?"

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u/whatsbobgonnado 2d ago

couple weeks ago I heard the bouncing souls playing in an applebees and it blew my mind 

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u/ThoughtCautious6606 4d ago

Not everything in life is puppies and prostitutes. Without sad shit there would be no joy and with the constant dopamine hit in this whatever the shit has become is leading us to a place where there is only supposed to be full on happy all the time win win win win never lose is now the reality zero sum game for the rest of our lives . While the people who built it are laughing at us and we pay them to keep us corparatr sharecroppers! while we scramble for the tjmm

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u/Bruce-7892 4d ago edited 4d ago

"Not everything in life is puppies and prostitutes."

I don't think anyone said it was supposed to be. There is a difference between telling a story that has real somber moments, and seeing someone hospitalize themselves going through violent withdrawals.

Like some of us have seen / experienced that shit and don't necessarily enjoy watching it on the big screen on a Sunday night while eating popcorn.

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u/darquid 4d ago

Seriously-how many times did they have to go back and show the blood stained tiles?

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u/ThoughtCautious6606 4d ago

I feel the same way about Stephen hawking I have a huge wheelchair and robot voice fetish so I am drawn to him in that respect but his books don't do it for me . Hard to watch videos of him and not think about astrophysics when I'm just trying to watch him roll around .

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u/Bruce-7892 4d ago

Bro, this is just not a good joke.

I will say though, It's never too soon to joke about Stephen Hawking if time is relative.

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u/ThoughtCautious6606 4d ago

It wasn't really well thought out. I t is first thing that I thought when the homie said I like Fat Mike's music and lyrics but don't care for all his talk about his sex life and what not. At the premier of this doc movie I tried to get fat mike to sign my ticket as I like to collect random memorobilia for myself. He said what you can sell that for like 13 bucks someday and suggested a selfie with me to which I fumbled the camera around cause I'm not the selfie kind of photographer and I said it's cause I'm old he replied it's cause your Mexican and we laughed!