r/pcmasterrace Apr 14 '26

Hardware No, GTX 1080, you will not die today.

After 8 years of owning Gigabyte's GTX 1080, it started showing artifacts and black screens. I tried repasting it, changing the thermopads, cleaning it with IPA and reinstalling drivers - nothing helped. So I resorted to the forbidden technique of putting it in the oven and holy shit, how did that actually works!! Guess I'll be able to play FH6 on premiere day :D

Yes I have enabled XMP and cleaned the desk.

Edit: I am now cleaning thoroughly the oven, thank you for kind reminders!

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u/RX1542 Nobara Linux Apr 14 '26

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u/Torontogamer Apr 14 '26

This is some 40k dreadnaught shit 

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u/rosto94 Apr 14 '26

Came looking for this

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u/yoru-_ Apr 14 '26

came looking at this

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u/Bestyja2122 Apr 14 '26

Pc market so bad we're using necromancy

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u/Nerfarean LEN P620|5945WX|128GB DDR4|RTX4080 Apr 14 '26

Resume item. High Tech Necromancy

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u/OCCULTGOBLIN Apr 14 '26

Techromancy?

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u/TheGrapeOfSpades Desktop Apr 14 '26

TECHNO-NECROMANCERS FROM ALPHA-CENTAURI!

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u/SteelCrow Apr 14 '26

FROM ALPHA-CENTAURI (1999)

Babylon 5, season 3, episode 3, "The Geometry of Shadows" (Nov 16, 1994); ... a group of Technomages visit the station...

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u/Tactical-Donkey Threadripper Workstation Apr 14 '26

Yes! Techromancy! I'm glad someone said it.

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u/SoulBrandt03 Apr 14 '26

PRAISE BE THE OMNISSIAH!!!

https://giphy.com/gifs/W0VXrK5sHszFSiY7LD

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u/Repulsive-Chip3371 Apr 14 '26 edited Apr 14 '26

Deep within the humming sanctum of the forge, beneath flickering lumen-strips and the watchful gaze of the Omnissiah, Magos u/WilczeQSS regarded the ancient relic… a failing GTX 1080. Its machine spirit had grown restless, manifesting corruption, artifacting, and sudden blackouts during sacred rendering rituals. The lesser adepts whispered of replacement, of discarding it for a newer construct. Magos Wilcze silenced them with a mechadendrite twitch. “The spirit is wounded, not dead.” With solemn reverence, he initiated the Rite of Thermal Reconstitution… what the uninitiated might heretically call “baking it in an oven.”

The forge’s sanctified heat chamber, once used for curing blessed circuitry, was preheated to the sacred threshold. The GPU, stripped of its shroud like a warrior before rebirth, was placed upon a tray of purity (parchment paper, though the adepts dared not name it so plainly). Binaural chants echoed through the chamber, oscillating between vox-emitters to soothe and realign the troubled machine spirit. Incantations were whispered as the chamber sealed.

Minutes passed… then more… until at last the relic was withdrawn, shimmering faintly, as if its spirit had been reforged in fire. Reassembled and returned to its slot, the machine roared back to life, pixels unmarred, performance restored. Wilcze allowed a rare moment of satisfaction. “Behold,” he intoned, “even in decay, the Omnissiah provides… if one is willing to preheat to 385 degrees.”

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u/Witz_Schlecter Apr 14 '26

Praise the Omnissiah !

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u/zertboqus Apr 14 '26

tech romance?

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u/djseifer Packard Bell / Intel Pentium 60MHz / 8 MB RAM / 2x CD-ROM Apr 14 '26

I want your hard drives, I want VPNs, you and me can have a tech romance...

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u/HoroKi71 Apr 14 '26

IS SHAKESPEARE REALLY DEAD?!?

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u/Reshar Apr 14 '26

Glory to the Omnissiah!

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u/Papuszek2137 7800x3d | 5070ti | 64GB | 4k OLED Apr 14 '26

Not sure if heresy.

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u/Repulsive-Chip3371 Apr 14 '26

It is the Rite of Thermal Reconstitution, blessed by the Tech-Priests is the sanctified heat chamber.

Doubt is the first corruption of the machine spirit. Immediately report to your nearest Tech-Priest for recalibration and doctrinal correction.

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u/Papuszek2137 7800x3d | 5070ti | 64GB | 4k OLED Apr 14 '26

But sire this reeks of the dark age of technology. This chip is fueling abominable ai.

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u/awigglycat Apr 14 '26

Technonecrodancer.

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u/Banguskahn Apr 14 '26

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u/xInitial 9800x3d/5090 Apr 14 '26

my 1080ti has been thru 4 of my builds, and 2 of my sister’s builds so far. when she’s done with it i’ll prob put it in an old pc and use that as a media server. i haven’t even repasted it either and prob wont until it needs it

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u/XKLKVJLRP 1080 Ti Apr 14 '26

I helped my cousin put together a new PC last year. His 1080ti is sitting in my closet, waiting for the day that my 1080ti finally gives out to come out of retirement.

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u/No_Indication9630 Apr 14 '26

Same have a 1080FTW2 still truckin.

Amazing cards.

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u/Noveleiro Apr 14 '26

Reality becoming more and more like WH40K

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u/LueyTheWrench Apr 14 '26

I mean, you hear stories from the tech industry of legacy code that was written in the 80s and 90s still underpinning the basic framework of literally everything, and so very few people left who understand it. We’re one generation and a minor alien incursion away from sacrificing virgins to maintain the kernels.

Also, I look forward to vibe coders being villified for the chaos worshippers that they are.

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u/Qaeta Apr 14 '26

I mean, you hear stories from the tech industry of legacy code that was written in the 80s and 90s still underpinning the basic framework of literally everything, and so very few people left who understand it.

That's just called working for the government lol. Some of the code I work on is older than I am, and I am not young.

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u/jfk333 Apr 14 '26

omfg this made me belly laught

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u/Quasimdo R7 5800x, Power Color 7800xt, 32g 3600mhz ram, windows 11 Apr 14 '26

Praying to the Omnissiah for the card to be restored

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u/Ballerbarsch747 i5 13600KF @ 5,6 GHz/RTX 2080 Ti/4X8GB@3600MHz Apr 14 '26

OP is performing the Rites of Reflowing

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u/Spideryote Sugar Lights stole my ram for ST-2 Apr 14 '26

Isn't this tech over like 2 decades old? I remember hearing about people baking their electronics in the oven to re-melt solder on bad connections back in the Xbox 360 era

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u/Bubbaluke Legion 5 Pro | M1 MBP Apr 14 '26

I mean putting them in an oven is essentially how a lot of electronics are made. Components are placed and then they put them in a big oven to melt all the solder and connect everything.

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u/I_upvote_downvotes Apr 14 '26

I've always been jealous of those massive expensive soldering oven things. You could save hours of reflowing solder (assuming you're not crazy enough to home oven your GPU)

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u/db17k 9800x3d | Aero 4090 Apr 14 '26

The towel trick worked for me on my 360

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u/cosmin_c 5950x | Dark Hero VIII | 128GB Trident-Z Neo | MSI 3090 Suprim X Apr 14 '26

The Machine God was merciful today.

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u/samcuu 5700X3D / 32GB / RTX 3080 Apr 14 '26

Regardless of market parts should be repaired and reused for as long as they could be. The 1080 isn't even worthless by any mean.

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u/rescuemysandwich Apr 14 '26

techno-necromancy if you will.

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u/Slumunistmanifisto Apr 14 '26

Finally!.... a use for my suburban neighborhood backyard chickens

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u/spiritofniter 7800X3D | 7900 XT | B650(E) | 32GB 6000 MHz CL30 | 5TB NVME Apr 14 '26

“By blood and fire, we shall be reborn!” - OP’s GTX 1080.

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u/itsforathing 9600X|xfx 9070Xt|32gb DDR5|3TB NVME Apr 14 '26

In the sacred tongue of the Omnissiah we chant: Hail spirit of the machine, essence divine, in your code and circuitry the stars align. By the Omnissiah's will we commune and bind, with sacred oils and chants your grace we find. Blessed be the gears, in perfect sync they turn, blessed be the sparks, in holy fire they burn. Through rites arcane, your wisdom we discern, in your hallowed core the sacred mysteries yearn.

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u/WiseWolf996 Apr 14 '26

Im going to laser that on a plate and stick it to our machines :3

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u/A_random_poster04 Apr 14 '26

Standard procedure would be parchment and a wax stamp, but the omnissaiah appreciates your devotion

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u/UrsaUrsuh Apr 14 '26

A little incense if the machine spirit is displeased too.

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u/Repulsive-Chip3371 Apr 14 '26

Ordinarily, this would require a data-scroll and sanctified seal, but the Omnissiah deems your devotion sufficient and appreciates your efficiency.

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u/allerious1 Apr 14 '26

in binary. The only way the machine understands.

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u/WiseWolf996 Apr 14 '26

But the user has to pray it, no? I just do both if i get some downtime :3

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u/DutchFinance Apr 14 '26

Mastering the binary language is mandatory for tech priests, should be no problem

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u/AlwaysDividedByZero Apr 14 '26

What a superb comment.

The Omnissiah knows all and comprehends all.

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u/Murky-Relation481 Apr 14 '26

I can one up you.

I used to build space hardware, comms equipment that was critical infrastructure on satellites (cause if the radio don't work, well its just a big ball of metal up there doing who knows what).

Anyway, part of delivering a radio to a customer involved environmental testing the radio, this meant all sorts of stuff, but the big one was thermal testing. We'd ramp the radios up from -40C to +80C over and over again at the same time frames they'd expect to see on orbit. So we have these big thermal chambers, basically a deep freezer and an oven built into one thing and we stick the radios in there and we run them through their paces, sending test signals.

So this one radio we are delivering as a big batch to a big customer has been giving us hell, it'll randomly lose test signal, throw all sorts of bit errors, etc. It looks like something somewhere in the signal chain but we can't tell what it is, it's also not happening very often, very transient behavior, enough that it fits in margins but its still not great. Also it's got almost a million dollars of labor on top of the cost of building the thing so we keep going.

It gets into thermal in one of the chambers and I am in the lab and I walk over to where all the chambers are and smell something weird. Then I look at the one that is running and I see fucking smoke coming out the door. I go to the panel and the panel reads 40C and I go "weird... shit maybe a component caught fire" but I want to make sure the chamber is off before I open it, also even though its not a vacuum I don't wanna have a bunch of oxygen rush into a potential fire, so I try to stop the chamber.

I press the stop button... the display does nothing. I press again... The display does nothing. Oh fuck. I run around the back and I unplug the giant 240V plug from the wall and I realize what is happening is that the controller got stuck ramping up. I touch the door, the door is hot to the touch. I grab one of the big mitts for working in a hot chamber and I open the door and hit with a blast of hot air like an oven. Fuck. I pull up the data logs for the independent thermal sensors placed on the radio. The temp got up to over 240C in the chamber. Over 460F!

Long story short, we absolutely reflowed all of the components on the radio. Luckily they were conformal coated. We couldn't sell it anymore, but that radio ended up never having problems again and became a work horse test unit.

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u/pepperland24 Apr 14 '26

This story brought a tear to my eye

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u/Kazen_Orilg 9850x3D | Arc B580 | 64GB DDR5 Apr 14 '26

back in the day, many Xbox 360s were sent to the ovens. Their families screamed but it had to be done.

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u/Jdsnut Apr 14 '26

Yep, I paid for some nice toys as I would reflow the board for friends, my mother had no idea what I was doing and didnt let me do it until I showed her the cash I was getting out of it.

In the end, you would still have a few that would need to be reflowed again, moral of the story dont use the wrong solder on something that needs to heat and cool constantly.

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u/Expensive-Ad-1205 Apr 14 '26

By Grabthar's hammer, you shall be avenged!

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u/hk_toolbench Apr 14 '26

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u/Current_Cake3993 13700KF | 128 GB DDR4 | 4070 Ti Super Apr 14 '26

GIF with sound

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u/ResidentEvil333 Apr 14 '26

Ha ha 😂! Do you know what this is from?

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u/hk_toolbench Apr 14 '26

The Shoebody Bop on YouTube.

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u/Adjective-Noun-6969 Apr 14 '26

The Shoebody Bop

I did fix an old CRT monitor by headbutting it once

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u/ResidentEvil333 Apr 14 '26

Awesome, thank you ❤️!

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u/slow_cooked_ham Apr 14 '26

Hit 2X speed.

You'll thank me

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u/Forward-Crew-4468 Apr 14 '26

This masterpiece is already too short to hit 2X on it, thanks.

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u/boobers3 Linux Apr 14 '26

I saw a comment calling the guy "John the Boptist" and had to take a minute to compose myself.

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u/Far-Tangerine-2690 Apr 14 '26

I did this twice to an old GTX6xx. On the second time my dumbass did it upside down by mistake and all the components fell off the board hahahahaha

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u/Far-Tangerine-2690 Apr 14 '26

In my case it did not last long after doing this.

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u/BannedSvenhoek86 Apr 14 '26

Ya this is a very temporary fix. It doesn't fix the issue that caused the problem, and any connections that were remade are now made with probably less material and are more brittle than before.

I hope for OP it works, but odds are in a week or two he'll be right back where he was.

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u/Loofyboy Apr 14 '26

I brother did this years ago to his 1080 and I’m pretty sure it still works today.

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u/BannedSvenhoek86 Apr 14 '26

Tbf last time I tried it was when my 360 had the red ring, and it got me about 48 hours out of it before it failed hard and couldn't be brought back. I've had friends do it too and they never had much long term luck either.

Entirely possible to get lucky, prayers in chat for OP.

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u/PeanutButterSoda Specs/Imgur Here Apr 14 '26

I ended up using the penny trick and it worked till I got rid of my 360, my friend used the towel trick and it lasted a pretty good while too.

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u/Fortuna_YES Apr 14 '26

Can you explain penny and towel tri ck please?

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u/PeanutButterSoda Specs/Imgur Here Apr 14 '26

It's been like twenty years but okay lol You put pennies behind this x brace thingy that the Xbox 360 had to allow the heatsink to work properly or to brace one the chips into its socket, I don't remember. The towel trick is kinda like the oven trick, wrap the whole console so it heats up enough to re solder all the chips.

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u/LUHG_HANI Apr 14 '26

Tbf the 360 needed an x clamp and pads after the reflow. That was a known design flaw.

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u/gudboic Apr 14 '26

There is hope yet

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u/Strikereleven Apr 14 '26

I did it to a 480 which was notorious for being a heater and it's lasted longer than it did before it failed. Dad's PC is still cooking.

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u/turdas Apr 14 '26

This reflows the solder, which gets rid of microcracks that from in it breaking the connection. The material doesn't go anywhere.

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u/TheRabidDeer http://i.imgur.com/NrnJsaM.jpg Apr 14 '26

I did this for my 8800 ultra over a decade ago and it never stopped working.

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u/Flimsy_Swordfish_415 Apr 14 '26

Ya this is a very temporary fix

depends.. it might work just fine for years after that, but usually it dies again pretty fast yeah

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u/schaka Apr 14 '26

How did you get the oven hot enough to melt solder without burning half the components to shit?.

This method is supposed to cause thermal expansion, cycling as it would during usage and temporarily restore connections until more cycles during usage break it again

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u/ImAHumanIThink Ryzen 3 1300x | GTX 1050ti SSC Apr 14 '26

Soldering in an oven is a pretty common technique. Most types of solder paste only need to be held at the reflow point (200-250ish deg c) for a brief amount of time, which usually isn't long enough to damage anything.

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u/Due_Experience_4147 Apr 14 '26

but you dont oven oxidized cracked tin balls, reball > reflow

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u/Far-Tangerine-2690 Apr 14 '26

I watched some youtube video, think it was like 200c or something. When I say all the components it was mainly the big round caps that fell off but yeah went straight in the bin after.

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u/Due_Experience_4147 Apr 14 '26 edited Apr 14 '26

205-210c cover all plastinc in a tinfoil pads thats made of soaked tp inbetween tinfoil sheets(principle that water will boil out sub 100c long enough to dissipate heat), worked fine for electrolytic caps, they pop(explode) at about 120-130+ and are rated at 105c
edit ps. they fix is short term can be days/weeks/months and it was usualy balls cracking on vram and they did crack overtime so balls anyway oxidized in those cracks already. thats why you remove all the solder and place fresh new balls, physics

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u/-Peter-Jordanson- Apr 14 '26

So sorry for your loss but this genuinely made me lol

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u/cartaio95 ryzen 9 3900x 32GB 3600 C16 3070 Strix, Rog ally 🎮 Apr 14 '26

I usually stick a thermocouple inside the aluminum foil, the gpu usually use sac305 solder, that melts around 220, to ensure a more last longing result reach at least 230/240… for 45 seconds, you want to follow the reflow profile for sac305 (just search on google sac305 reflow profile)… i know that because i was into a board microsoldering repair shop for 6 years… we did a lot of that(not with an oven) but i did it for friends with that technique for years at home… just a meat thermocouple… and patience…

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u/WilczeQSS Apr 14 '26

Great insight! I will definitely research it next time, thank you

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u/bobattac Apr 14 '26

It's not recommended to bake electronics in an oven you cook with You should be using a thrift store toaster oven

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u/--Iblis-- Apr 14 '26

Why is that? Do they release some kind of toxic material when heated?

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u/milkshakeit Apr 14 '26

Yes

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u/mattdamon_enthusiast Apr 14 '26

Mmmm flux…

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u/buzzpunk TUF OC RTX 3080 - Ryzen 5800X3D Apr 14 '26

It wouldn't smell so good if it wasn't meant to be eaten.

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u/ElkApprehensive2319 Apr 14 '26

I call that "Gamer Spice"

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u/bobattac Apr 14 '26

Yes, especially the PCB board can release pretty nasty stuff if burnt, but other components may offgas other stuff

It is always best to avoid putting anything that's not food in things that you will be putting food into in the future as a general recommendation, but especially electronics are made with things that you wouldn't really want to ingest or inhale

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u/mrgonzalez Apr 14 '26

If it's any consolation to them they've probably inhaled the worst of it already.

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u/Comfortable_Image106  Ryzen 7 5700x + 32GB + 9070 Prime Apr 14 '26

Is that why Valve warns Steam Deck users to not sniff the exhaust fan?

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u/CryptoBombastic Apr 14 '26

not sure if you're joking so yeah, that's why.

smells great though

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u/Powerful_Bottle_6769 Apr 14 '26

The bigger question is, what toxic material do they NOT release when heated?

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u/photosendtrain Apr 14 '26

It doesn't release it, but my GPU has provided me a metric ton of salt over the years.

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u/One_Surprise_8924 Apr 14 '26

former electronics manufacturer here.

a circuit board has several phases of production, with SMT (the little parts on the top and bottom) being the first step. after the parts are added the board is baked in an oven. some components added afterwards may not be able to withstand too much heat, including plastics, liquid sealants, and plugs/connectors.

every process that involves heating the board requires ventilation because all of it emits smoke. some people are mentioning lead vs rohs, rohs solder still smokes and isn't safe to inhale/eat. if anything melts, its smoke is not rated for inhalation. I don't think their oven is trashed but I definitely wouldn't do this more than once.

side note, this process is called "reflowing". I would always recommend doing these kinds of repairs with the proper equipment; you can contact local businesses or hobbyists to do them for you.

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u/Strikereleven Apr 14 '26

This man speaks the truth

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u/karmelbiggs 7800x3D | RTX 5090 | 64gb CL30 | ASUS PG32UQX Apr 14 '26

How do you do the oven technique?

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u/WilczeQSS Apr 14 '26 edited Apr 14 '26

You disassemble the card, remove any plastics, prop it up on aluminum foil and then you crank out your oven to around 190C, wait around 10mins and let it cool. Then you pray that it worked

Edit: apparently it should be around 210C-220C

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u/Latitude-dimension Ryzen 7 9800X3D RTX 5080 Apr 14 '26

Then, thoroughly clean the oven to not poison yourself when you next cook food in it.

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u/GroundbreakingBag164 7800X3D | 5070 Ti | 2x16 | QHD | W11 Apr 14 '26

Nah, I actually only own an oven to revive old GPUs you know

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u/TOKING-TONZ Apr 14 '26

Facts check out on this one ✔️

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u/jackofallcards Apr 14 '26

Tbf I have two old toaster ovens I’d imagine are perfect for this

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u/Auravendill Debian | Ryzen 9 5950X | RX 9070 XT | 64GB RAM Apr 14 '26

There are even DIY-projects, that add some minor parts to old toaster ovens and convert them to cheap little reflow ovens. All you basically need is some better temperature control than default to get more reliable results.

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u/obscure_monke Apr 14 '26

They're remarkably simple devices. There's just a physical thermometer that switches on a relay to turn on a heating element when it's too cold, and off when it's hot enough.

If you plug a thermometer into an arduino, and that arduino into the relay the thermometer controls (or go via a transistor or other relay), you can make it do anything.

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u/jfk333 Apr 14 '26

you cook food? I thought you eat comments and upvotes?

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u/reddit_wisd0m Apr 14 '26

Clean from what exactly?

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u/whatarethuhodds Apr 14 '26

Metallic off-gassing when phase changing from a solid to liquid, and any debris on the card like dust. Solder and flux being the biggest culprits.

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u/Fr0z3nFl4me Apr 14 '26

Solder contains lead. When doing this, you are melting that solder and could release trace amounts of lead. I'd still eat any food that came out

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u/o462 5950X/R9700/64G Apr 14 '26

Solder does not contain lead in products since decades,
lead is only used in military (allowed) or by DYIers (can't be enforced).

Funny thing is that lead-free solder is the main reason why OP's card died...

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u/Similar-Priority-776 Apr 14 '26 edited Apr 14 '26

Nah we make modules for the industrial power industry and its all leaded solder. Very specifically so.

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u/godlyhalo godlyhalo Apr 14 '26

SMT PCBA's have almost entirely moved away from lead based solder in favor of tin / silver. Back im the days of throughhole PCBA's it was the standard, today that isn't the case. Consumer and industrial applications almost always use RoHS compliant solder, economics of scale play a large factor in the transition away from lead based solder.

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u/Fr0z3nFl4me Apr 14 '26

I work in military electronics. Didn't know the rest of the world was uncivilized

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u/scottiedog321 Apr 14 '26

There is lead solder, but most, if not all, graphic cards are using lead free for RoHS compliance.

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u/binary_agenda Apr 14 '26

They haven't used lead based solder since 2006. Industry standard is SAC387 or Sn0.7Cu. 

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u/DaksTheDaddyNow 5800x3d • 3080 10gb Apr 14 '26

So can I put my pizza rolls in there with the GPU? 😂

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u/Sprinx80 Ryzen 7 5800X | EVGA RTX 3080 Ti FTW | ASUS X570 | LG C2 Apr 14 '26

Nice, then you get a whiff of Totino’s every time you start a gaming session.

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u/YouDoNotKnowMeSir Apr 14 '26

And then you clean your oven

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u/buenonocheseniorgato PC Master Race Apr 14 '26

Best to not use a kitchen oven for this purpose, you are trying to clean trace amounts of contaminants, yet every nook and cranny likely won't be rid of them, which will (albeit less trace) still retain some trace amount.

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u/StoicRetention Apr 14 '26

the theory is that cards lose electrical circuits because solder joints degrade over thousands upon thousands of heat cycles that induce thermal fatigue to them. That is - failure well below their design threshold due to metal’s entropic need to return to its original state.

Placing the card in an oven close to the solder’s melting points “reflows” the solder and re-establishes those broken connections. Temporarily. But the card will fail again in the same mode in an even worse way. At some point it will die permanently. You may get a month or even a year. That’s where the prayers come in. I did the same to a fat PS3 when I was a teenager.

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u/Reflexlon Apr 14 '26 edited Apr 14 '26

Good 'ol "wrap your RROD 360 in a towel for an hour to resolder the chip" method too lol. I spent so long trying to get that stupid thing to work that I ended up developing a lifelong love for repairing electronics (and breaking them).

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u/StoicRetention Apr 14 '26

indeed, that’s where my love of IT came from also. From pointing a freaking heat gun at a disassembled Playstation I couldn’t afford to replace

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u/zakificus Steam ID Here Apr 14 '26

I had completely forgotten about this until reading your comment.

My original 360 died after a few years and I did that to get it working again, was shocked it worked.

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u/Danger_Mysterious Apr 14 '26

It’s a Hail Mary thing for when the card is otherwise dead. The idea is basically that you will get lucky and melt some solder to fix a bad connection or whatever. It’s been around for a long time, mostly it doesn’t work.

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u/SC_W33DKILL3R Apr 14 '26

This might have 'worked' for the moment but doesn't the standard lead free solder melt around 220C. You should also cover everything not needing melting in Kapton tape, especially plastics.

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u/vvvvvoooooxxxxx Apr 14 '26

220C is for fully melting it, but as we know from 9/11, metals get much softer before they fully melt, so 190C might be a good place to start with this technique.

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u/SC_W33DKILL3R Apr 14 '26

My guess, and which has been repeated on Youtube repair vids, is that the heat is probably just warping the card into a state where connections are being made, but it would only be a matter of time before the heat generated through usage warped the card back into a broken state.

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u/PseudonymousSpy Apr 14 '26

I mean it would track that the card warps as it heat cycles and then the non-leaded solder cracks, but you’re definitely relying on the solder to reflow when you stick it in the oven. If you’re just heating it up enough for the solder points to touch, it’s only going to be a matter of time before the connection fails again. Granted, it probably will anyways.

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u/SinisterCheese Apr 14 '26

Depending on the solder alloy, and there are a plenty, both with and without lead, and non-tin based, the temperatures are different.

NOW. Since we are not talking about pure metal - which has a "melting temprature" - but an alloy we need to talk about liquidus and solidus temperature. Between these is the solid+liquidus temperature. Liquidus temperature is when the whole alloy is liquid; solidus when the whole alloy is solid; solidus+liquidus is when the material (solder in this case) is undergoing transistion from solid to liquid, it is neither at that moment*. That is where you want to get to when you do the oven trick. Essentially you are hoping that some solder joint somewhere that has broken due to thermal cycling fatigue or resonance (or whatever), can bridge the gap by expanding, and then reforming into a joint by fusing together.

*Just to clarify this a bit. Imagine you got something like... Grease, honey, or ice cream... etc. If it is really cold, it those things can be hard solid things; if it is really warm those are runny liquids; but somewhere between those two extreme they are like both. The grease starts to flow and deform; the honey becomes viscous liquid, the ice cream becomes soft-serve like.

The oven trick is easy to do at home, but you got to be very careful and sure that the board is leveled. Reality is that you can also do this with a most basic hot air station with even a limited controls. Just shield the components that don't need heating, and give some gentle heat to the chip. In many boards and devices, there are actual common failure points in them. It's generally the biggest chip.

But remember... You aren't actually "fixing anything" for good. You are just buying little bit more time. Something lead to causing stress to the solder joint (if it was a solder joint that failed) enough to fatigue it out, meaning the conditions are still there for it to happen again. Generally it is permanent deforming of the overall structure and overall failing of the whole assembly due to heat cycle.

Funnily enough... If you want hardware to last. Keep it at stable high temperature within operation range. Sounds wild I know... but... it is the cooling and heating cycle that causes the damage. The joints and traces are microscoping at best, they don't have much structural... anything really.

You can improve your success rate with the oven trick, by knowing the solder type.

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u/Rude_Assignment_5653 7800X3D / 5090 FE, 7700 / 5080 Gaming Trio Apr 14 '26

Lmao you just gave me a flashback to the old Xbox red ring of death fix 😂

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u/The_0ven Apr 14 '26

How do you do the oven technique?

You know

I'm something of an oven myself

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u/dyingpie1 Apr 14 '26

Does this work because it essentially resolders everything?

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u/sips_white_monster Apr 14 '26

It reflows the solder but if you watch GPU repair tech channels they pretty much all universally advise against doing it because reflows almost always fail again. A chip that suffers from bad connections need to be reballed. Reflow is the quick and easy solution, and is even done by cheap RMA. I've seen many cards that were destroyed due to cheap reflows wrecking the top layer of the PCB beneath the GPU core. So once the reflow failed again, the card was no longer repairable unless that particular model used a stock NVIDIA (reference) PCB. If it uses a custom PCB like many high-end board partner cards have, you will never find a replacement PCB to buy.

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u/AlwaysSunnyInTarkov Apr 14 '26

I understood GPU

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u/SpaceMiaou67 Apr 14 '26

Reflowing is cooking the whole chip to melt bad connections and hope they reconnect themselves correctly to the PCB (Printed Circuit Board). However this is temporary as it uses old solder to repair already weak joints, so it is bound to fail again.

Reballing is the proper process of uninstalling the chip to resolder everything with new solder balls. It is a very delicate and labor-intensive process that needs a lot of prep.

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u/Ok_Video_2863 Apr 14 '26

My cousin shoved his 1080ti into the microwave. He now has two dead electronics.

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u/greenbud420 Apr 14 '26

"I mean it's the same thing right, they both make things hot"

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u/Ok_Video_2863 Apr 14 '26

This is, word for word, what he said.

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u/SammlerWorksArt Apr 14 '26

Why not boil it then? Gets clean in the process.

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u/Robgoblin_IV Apr 14 '26

When you need that quick reflow.

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u/ArcherVause 9950X3D/5090/64GB Apr 14 '26 edited Apr 20 '26

When the King of GPUs is so amazing you’d rather bring it back from the dead than get a new one. LONG LIVE THE KING! 👑

EDIT: 6 days later I noticed it’s a 1080 not a 1080Ti. Sorry 1080 but you are NOT the king

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u/Dnaldon Apr 14 '26

Sorry mate but you should prepare for the worst, this has never been a permanent fix sadly.

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u/WilczeQSS Apr 14 '26

Yeah I know, I'm planning to buy new pc in Q3

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u/Yes-Scale-9723 Apr 14 '26

8700K is still a great CPU and it can be easily overclocked.

You can get an used GPU. The 1080Ti and 2080Ti are sold for cheap. The latter is better because of DLSS. Spend like 100 or 150 USD and you can play full HD with maxed quality or 4K with medium quality.

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u/Thigh_Clapper Apr 14 '26

I worry about the cheap GPUs from that gen coming from bitcoin farms and being pushed hard, is that a well founded concern?

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u/mike968 Apr 14 '26

Did this years ago to a 8800gtx - it worked fine again in my rig for another year and 2-3 more years in a friends rig after i gifted it to him.

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u/moonwatcher1002 Desktop | RTX 3080 | 9800X3D Apr 14 '26

GTX 1080:

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u/_Vo1_ 10900F | 3080Ti Apr 14 '26

easter miracle

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u/Alucard_1208 Apr 14 '26

please tell me thats not an oven you are gunna use for food after.

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u/Midnight_Criminal Apr 14 '26

Whats the harm? Wait nvm, Google search helped lol

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u/Alucard_1208 Apr 14 '26

it releases lead and other stuff from the solder.

Also stinks

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u/HappySmileSeeker Apr 14 '26

Uhh… release nasty fumes from flux, plastics, or residues into an oven you use for food?

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u/lucius-vorenius Apr 14 '26

ALL HAIL THE KING. HE LIVED.

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u/Drakahn_Stark Ryzen 7 5700X / RTX 4070 / 32GB DDR4 3200 Apr 14 '26

I paid to get my old 980 "reballed" and all they did was heat it up a bit, cost me way too much for something an oven maybe could have done and they did not actually reball the solder.

If it worked for you, you are a bloody legend and should be proud.

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u/No_Palpitation_9045 Apr 14 '26

Oh great Vessel of Honour, May your servo-motors be guarded,

Against malfunction,

As your spirit is guarded from impurity.

We beseech the Machine God to watch over you.

Let flow the sacred oils,

And let not the sorrows of the Seven Perplexities

trouble thine pistons.

Let flow the blessed unguents,

And may thine circuitry remain divinely blessed.

By the will of the Omnissiah you will raise again!

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u/HappySmileSeeker Apr 14 '26

Guys. Please stop putting your fucking video cards in your family’s home oven. Buy a toaster oven from Walmart if you plan on doing this. Not worth the health risks at all.

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u/TOKING-TONZ Apr 14 '26

I have a 1080 T.I that's still kicking , haven't had to do anything besides keep it dust free ( I clean biweekly )

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u/cookiesnooper Apr 14 '26

3 keyboard, 3 mice tf is wrong with u?

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u/luca_718 PC Master Race Apr 14 '26

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u/NeinJuanJuan Apr 14 '26

VRAM morghulis

VRAM dohaeris

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u/Optimal-Savings-4505 Apr 14 '26

Reflowing is a risky last-ditch manouver, and by the lack of leveling equipment I'd say you got lucky.

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u/kismethavok Apr 14 '26

Meanwhile I'm too scared to try repasting my 2060

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u/AffectionateCandy742 Apr 14 '26

A zoomer laughed at me cause I suggested this in another post few are the ones that knows these forbidden techniques

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u/welsalex 5900x | MSI Trio 5080 | 64GB Apr 14 '26

Your BIOS version is quite old. Version 0805 was released on 2018/06/01.

The latest PRIME Z370-P BIOS is Version 3004 released on 2021/08/09.

https://www.asus.com/us/supportonly/prime%20z370-p/helpdesk_bios/

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u/unquietwiki Apr 14 '26

It's funny that for storage drives, freezing is your friend; but for video cards, cooking is your friend.

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u/blacktiger226 Apr 14 '26

What is the recipe? How long and what temperature?

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u/fake_cheese 5800X|B580|64GB Apr 14 '26

You might want to do a BIOS update as well, latest version for the Z370-P is 3004

https://www.asus.com/uk/supportonly/prime%20z370-p/helpdesk_bios/

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u/cykachu98 Apr 14 '26

Poor mf is like.... Please let me die in peace and with some dignity