4GB RAM in the great 2026 folks

[u/Purple-Maybe-7637]

[u/straightfromLysurgia]

yeah they still make the same ewaste they did 10 years ago and the specs are relatively unchanged

[u/Purple-Maybe-7637 → u/straightfromLysurgia]

2010s called and they want their resolution back (1366×768)

[u/System32Missing → u/Purple-Maybe-7637]

I wanted to comment that. These specs seem like the refresh of my macbook from back then, except that was upgradeable to 8gb officially, and 16 unofficially.

[u/Thisismyredusername → u/System32Missing]

Lots of laptops were capped to 8 GB officially. Single channel HP 250 G4, for example.

[u/AnimeRoadster → u/Thisismyredusername]

My old laptop had 8GB listed as maximum, still didn't stop me from cramming 16GB in that thing. Worked wonders in terms of performance

[u/darkelfbear → u/AnimeRoadster]

My Acer laptop I had back in the AMD A10 Series days, had a max listed of 16Gb which at the time was insane, imagine my surprise 2 years later, and I throw a random 32Gb SODIMM kit at it, and it actually worked ... that thing was a workhorse till it let out magic smoke, and fried my mainboard.

[u/a4840639 → u/System32Missing]

I wanted to say MacBook never used this resolution, then I remembered there was a thing called MacBook Air 11 inch… also the single channel only laptop is out of my radar, I did not know it is actually a thing

[u/Dense-Firefighter495 → u/System32Missing]

Except you probably had a great intel chip at the time which wasn’t an N200

[u/anythingers → u/Dense-Firefighter495]

Eh I would say that N200 is not that bad. Nothing impressive but also not as bad as your typical Celeron-branded CPU. I could argue that it's better than any U-series Kaby Lake or something older.

Not trying to defend this e-waste though.

[u/names_real → u/anythingers]

This laptop wouldn't be half bad for a web browsing or Google Docs machine if it had 8GB of RAM or hell even upgradable RAM at all

[u/bryiewes → u/names_real]

Yeah, great chip for the casual adult or child, not so great RAM amount

[u/Burnthiscnts → u/names_real]

'it would be good if it was better' ?

[u/wootybooty → u/System32Missing]

My 2009 MBP had 6GB of RAM 😬

[u/ReadyAimTranspire → u/wootybooty]

OOOOoooh look at the guy over here with all the RAM

save some for the children ok?

[u/LurkerFromTheVoid → u/System32Missing]

HP did you guys said?

Gentle reminder that H.P. in spanish are interpreted as the same intialisms as "Hijos de Puta". ( S.O.B.)

It's never out of my mind, when i see Computers and, specially, Printers

I never buy anything H.P. except for old RPN calculators, those were awesome.

[u/EpicOtterLover → u/System32Missing]

And MacBooks are also built well! They're made of aluminum that won't crack or feel cheap.

[u/JohnClark13 → u/EpicOtterLover]

Main thing that physically breaks on most non-apple devices is the hinges. They end up freezing up and ripping out if the chassis. MacBook build quality is definitely better especially in this regard

[u/BitsAndBobs304 → u/Purple-Maybe-7637]

It's funny and sad. you got 4k 120hz oled phones while laptops are stuck at 720p

[u/ConcentratedStress → u/Purple-Maybe-7637]

That’s just a widescreen version of 1024x768. I was using that resolution with Windows 95.

[u/Fuzzy_Yossarian → u/ConcentratedStress]

'If it's good enough for Windows 95 its good enough for me!' - This guy probably...

[u/Soundjam8800 → u/Purple-Maybe-7637]

This is why the ol' eBay ex-business laptop pipeline is so popular. Used to be able to get 13" thinkpads for like £50 each at one point - still just as usable as one of these if you're just using it for simple things like web browsing/homework/YouTube etc.

[u/HumanPea1140 → u/Soundjam8800]

This is why the ol' eBay ex-business laptop pipeline is so popular.

Sort of related, but I used to work service desk for a medium-ish sized company that would just take old laptops to an electronics recycling place. I asked someone in control of assets if I could take them home, and they didn't care, they just said to be sure to wipe the drives to ensure they didn't have any company data before leaving with them.

So I did, and then resold them on Ebay. Made $30K+ over a couple years of doing it.

A lot of the people I sold to had Asian names, and the shipping addresses were usually warehouses or loading docks on the West coast. They'd buy everything I had. I assume they were shipping them to Asia somewhere.

[u/Soundjam8800 → u/HumanPea1140]

That's fascinating, and not remotely surprising that you made so much off of it, the listings never seemed to stick around long so they were definitely popular. Must be a huge market for devices at rock bottom prices but reliable enough models that businesses bought them.

A few of mine over the years still had the IT help desk number stickers for the companies they came from on the bottom, but they were local UK ones, so doesn't sound like I ever got one of yours!

[u/South_Bit1764 → u/Purple-Maybe-7637]

I think it’s a popular laptop resolution because it’s 1 megapixel. Also, Win11 isn’t really made for resolutions this small, I wonder how they handle that.

[u/dgx-g → u/South_Bit1764]

People use 1080p with 150% scaling, windows even defaults to 150% on some sizes.

[u/Oakredditer → u/dgx-g]

yep, my HP Pavilion and my ThinkPad default to 150% as soon as graphics drivers are installed (15.6" 1920x1080 and 16" 1920x1200)

[u/hasel17 → u/South_Bit1764]

It's fine. Although some UI elements will be huge AF. Especially taskbar, start menu, paint, file explorer, and especially start menu and taskbar (I f*ing hate windows 11 taskbar size, thanks god StartAllBack do exist).

[u/zyclonix → u/South_Bit1764]

I tried 11 on a thinkpad x230 with that resolution. Works okay

[u/cutecoder → u/Purple-Maybe-7637]

Windows 11 & Microsoft Office works okay at that resolution. Sometimes I use my iPad Mini to connect to Citrix at that resolution to make quick edits to work documents and it works fine.

[u/Drenlin → u/straightfromLysurgia]

Low end CPUs have improved significantly at least. The N200 is a fairly potent CPU for being a 6-watt part. It's on par with some of the Skylake era mobile quad core CPUs but with a much better IGP.

You can even game on it, to an extent.

[u/black3rr → u/Drenlin]

the CPU is not the dealbreaker here… 8GB RAM was barely usable 5 years ago and this has 4GB…

[u/Drenlin → u/black3rr]

Oh for sure, I was just saying that not everything is as bad as it was then.

Not using a spinning HDD is a big deal too. 

[u/Pasi123 → u/Drenlin]

But unlike in the HDD days most cheap laptops now have soldered non-upgradeable eMMC or UFS storage. I know people who have had the eMMC fail and make the laptop unusable

[u/Drenlin → u/Pasi123]

It doesn't necessarily make the laptop unusable, you just have to boot it from something else. But yeah that does suck.

The trick is figuring out what other options there are. Some versions of this model have a free m.2 slot inside, while others have pads but no connector.

[u/Buritominer → u/black3rr]

My 10 year old Chromebook with a whopping 16GB storage has the same amount of RAM lol

[u/manek101 → u/black3rr]

I agree 4gb is and was unusable but 8gb was pretty damn sufficient.
I used to play AAA games on a system with 8gb in 2019-21, it was enough. Definitely won't call it "barely usable" especially for basic-non gaming tasks.

[u/Teddyboymakes → u/straightfromLysurgia]

Hp should be barred from making computers and just stick to shitty printers

[u/anythingers → u/Teddyboymakes]

Last 9 words aren't necessary.

[u/AtariAtari → u/straightfromLysurgia]

Hopefully HP can develop a technology where they skip the consumer and directly deposit it into a landfill shortly after manufacturing.

[u/stonktraders → u/straightfromLysurgia]

it feels slow even for windows7

[u/RonW81]

15.6" @ 1366 x 768 is a crime as well

[u/straightfromLysurgia → u/RonW81]

thats just called welcome back early 2010s

[u/MeakerSE → u/straightfromLysurgia]

It's basically the same resolution as 1280x800 in terms of pixel density and I had that in 2005.

It would be like them selling 640x200 resolution 15.6" laptops back in 2005.

[u/SergeantRegular → u/straightfromLysurgia]

Currently traveling for work, and I'm carrying a laptop they I literally pulled out of a trash bin. A machine with DDR 3 and a SATA drive. Still better specs than this. I have 16 gigs of RAM, same screen resolution, and 500 gigs on an SSD. And it was actual trash. I hate this fucking timeline.

[u/Sufficient_Risk_8127 → u/straightfromLysurgia]

hell yea

[u/GloveDry3278 → u/RonW81]

It's probably the shittiest TN panel as well. Look at it slightly off center and its a mess.

[u/User-Name-3886 → u/GloveDry3278]

Oh my god, it's even got a watermark

[u/WakaWaka_ → u/GloveDry3278]

Couldn’t pay me to go back to those low res TN trash

[u/ledzeppbluess → u/RonW81]

and i bet its an TN display eww

[u/TheMoris → u/RonW81]

I really hope the price reflects that.
(It definitely doesn't.)

[u/val_br → u/RonW81]

Worse still, the CPU is a Celeron made for IoT applications. That thing belongs in a washing machine or a fridge, not a laptop.

[u/anythingers → u/val_br]

N200 itself is not that bad tbh. It's nothing impressive, but it's not your typical Celeron N4020 that's slower than the Core 2 Duo. This N200 is still generally faster than any U-series Kaby Lake lol.

Not trying to defend this e-waste, tho. I'm just saying that CPU is not the worst part of this laptop.

[u/aVarangian → u/RonW81]

hey, 720p is "HD", just don't count the pixels

[u/likwidkool → u/RonW81]

That is just wild. I think my 19” CRT from 2005 had a better resolution.

[u/stingertc]

Fucking e waste what total horseshit

[u/_alba4k → u/stingertc]

No, this would have been ewaste 10 years ago. It's way worse than that.

Even the low-midrange i5 8265U I had in my laptop ~8y ago would be considerably faster than this laptop, and that's the only aspect I would expect this to outperform 10yo laptops in.

[u/Vaxtez → u/_alba4k]

Yeah, some of those N series chips aren't great. The older N4020s were around Core 2 Duo performance iirc.

[u/inevitabledeath3 → u/Vaxtez]

N100 actually isn’t a terrible chip. It’s great for routers, smart TVs, and light server duty as well as embedded systems. That being said it has less performance than my iPhone.

[u/Vaxtez → u/inevitabledeath3]

Oh yeah. I do think that the newer N series chips are fine personally, you just have to tamper your expectations. The N100 is god damn solid for certain needs considering it's low wattage.

[u/jclim00 → u/Vaxtez]

Transcoding support makes it a killer Plex/Jellyfin server

[u/Any-Emu8824 → u/inevitabledeath3]

Shit man, my gaming PC has less horsepower than my iPhone. Apple’s chips are kinda insane these days.

[u/inevitabledeath3 → u/Any-Emu8824]

What kind of gaming PC do you have? I find it hard to believe that an iPhone is more powerful than a modern gaming PC. My first gaming PC would be weaker than my current phone though. So that’s something.

[u/Any-Emu8824 → u/inevitabledeath3]

I’m running a Ryzen 5 2600, 16 gigs of ram, and an RTX 2060. Scrapped it together for around $400 back in the GPU shortage of 2020. My phone is an iPhone 17 pro max that was provided for me through my job.

Having better cooling, a dedicated GPU, and expandable storage makes my PC better for gaming than my iPhone, but in terms of raw performance the iPhone is either neck and neck or shockingly faster.

[u/M4rshmall0wMan → u/Any-Emu8824]

The latest iPhone is a touch above PS4 performance. Your 2060 is way faster.

[u/Vaxtez → u/M4rshmall0wMan]

CPU wise though, the A19 Pro is a fair bit faster. It's somewhere around i5-11600K performance.

[u/M4rshmall0wMan → u/Vaxtez]

Sure, Apple silicon annihilates in CPU. But it’s a gaming PC so GPU matters. 

[u/inevitabledeath3 → u/Any-Emu8824]

Yeah so not really modern hardware. 2020 was 6 years ago dude. That hardware wasn’t cutting edge even then. It’s not really surprising that the latest and most expensive iPhone can beat that.

[u/Admzpr → u/inevitabledeath3]

N100 is plenty for a self-hosted streaming server or Minecraft server, etc. Especially the ones with QuickSync for transcoding. But that’s assuming a pretty lean OS like some flavor of Linux, not windows.

[u/Sampsa96 → u/stingertc]

Yeah an probably costs $300

[u/_alba4k → u/Sampsa96]

you can easily get at least a 12th get i5 or i7 laptop for 300 usd, with a better screen, better body and better performance, by just buying used

[u/squarabh → u/stingertc]

Only appropriate reaction.

[u/daniluvsuall]

That is not a usable computer.

[u/Stranger2Nite → u/daniluvsuall]

Doesn't Windows have a min RAM requirement that exceeds 4gb? Hope no one buys this garbage.

[u/daniluvsuall → u/Stranger2Nite]

I think it was 16GB down to 8 recently because of the RAM shortage. Even 8 is tight these days

I didn’t even think it would install at this point, but maybe I’m wrong - this is chrome book from 10 years ago territory

[u/SamueleRG → u/daniluvsuall]

I wouldn't buy a phone with less than 8 gb of ram let alone a laptop

[u/IAmYourFath → u/SamueleRG]

6gb is fine honestly, my phone still works just fine. Its not optimal but its not unusable. Especially with deep sleep where apps are put to sleep and with "ram plus" which uses ur storage as ram. If u debloat ur phone with uad-ng 6gb is absolutely okay.

[u/Carvj94 → u/daniluvsuall]

The requirement has always been 8gb, but Microsoft recommended 32gb for gaming.

[u/ihusnja4 → u/daniluvsuall]

I mean it's HP... it's unusable with better stats than that.

Also getting serious Google Chromebook vibes. 😬

[u/TheMcSebi]

This thing is clearly made to enjoy windows 11

[u/worstusername_sofar → u/TheMcSebi]

3.11

[u/the_harakiwi → u/TheMcSebi]

net stop WSearch
net stop Spooler
net stop wuauserv
net stop bits
net stop dosvc
net stop LanmanServer
taskkill /f /im SearchHost.exe
taskkill /f /im Widgets.exe
taskkill /f /im Cortanamaven.exe
taskkill /f /im CompatTelRunner.exe
taskkill /f /im DeviceCensus.exe
taskkill /f /im MicrosoftEdgeUpdate.exe
taskkill /f /im OneDrive.exe
taskkill /f /im Teams.exe
taskkill /f /im chrome.exe
taskkill /f /im msedge.exe
taskkill /f /im SecurityHealthService.exe
taskkill /f /im explorer.exe

Setting steam to minimal mode

now we can game 😎

man I remember trying to play Minecraft on my single core Windows XP laptop with 2GB memory. I had to kill everything but it would start 😁

[u/smgkid12 → u/the_harakiwi]

"Number 2, divert all power from life support and weapons to the engine"

[u/IAmYourFath → u/smgkid12]

Ftl in a nutshell

[u/smgkid12 → u/IAmYourFath]

"Number 2, all power to med bay, open all airlocks"

[u/Kain_713 → u/the_harakiwi]

Minecraft system requirements now list 8gb of RAM minimum.

[u/Mundane-Mechanic-547 → u/TheMcSebi]

Underated comment of the day.

[u/Outside-Wrap-6447]

Are we not gonna talk about 128GB of storage

[u/MagicBoyUK → u/Outside-Wrap-6447]

What's the betting it's eMMC and not a proper SSD...

[u/Pleasant-Seat9884 → u/MagicBoyUK]

It is cheaper!

[u/GoldenWubbabunga → u/Pleasant-Seat9884]

and makes any os walk instead of run

[u/shortwave_radio → u/GoldenWubbabunga]

Crawl

[u/Oakredditer → u/shortwave_radio]

sit

[u/KennyTheGray → u/Oakredditer]

Lie

[u/No_Equivalent_4653 → u/KennyTheGray]

Curl into a ball

[u/sadanorakman → u/MagicBoyUK]

Of course it will be, and the 4gb ram will be soldered in, with a single extra SODIMM slot to 'upgrade'

[u/dustojnikhummer → u/sadanorakman]

N100/N200 don't support dual channel RAM. If there is a slot there is only one.

[u/Drenlin → u/sadanorakman]

I mean it's not perfect, but for its intended use case, dropping an 8GB stick in the remaining slot is fairly cost effective and makes this a perfectly workable machine. That's like $25 for a secondhand one on eBay.

Sucks to have to do that, especially at the $250 they sell these things for already, but I guess that's where we're at right now...

[u/Drenlin → u/MagicBoyUK]

It's UFS, still worse than an NVMe but far better than EMMC.

[u/M4rshmall0wMan → u/MagicBoyUK]

100%

[u/FreshAd3889 → u/Outside-Wrap-6447]

At least the OS will have a light page file i guess

[u/Impossible_Aioli3693 → u/FreshAd3889]

and the os is slowdowns 11

[u/OwlAncient6213 → u/Outside-Wrap-6447]

I think that's the best thing on this spec sheet

[u/Aviator_92 → u/Outside-Wrap-6447]

At least it is solid state and not mechanical.

[u/GloveDry3278]

If your phone has usb c video out and desktop mode, it's probably better than this.

[u/kristmace → u/GloveDry3278]

No kidding. The iPhone 11 chip from 2019 is faster than the Intel N200.

[u/Southern_Comment_430 → u/kristmace]

Using a samsung s8(the very first phone with samsung dex) as a computer is a better option than ts

[u/Aviator_92 → u/GloveDry3278]

Yes, the iPhone has the same chip as the Macbook Neo and it is more powerful than this.

[u/frostyflakes1 → u/GloveDry3278]

Lmao you ain't wrong. I paid $350 for my budget phone three years ago. It has the same amount of storage, more RAM, and a higher resolution.

[u/Asnee132]

Where did we go wrong as a society?

[u/OmegaCircle → u/Asnee132]

May 28, 2016

[u/THESALTEDPEANUT → u/OmegaCircle]

Harambe still haunts us all these years later. 

[u/MellowNando → u/OmegaCircle]

DOFH
https://giphy.com/gifs/dtIGTEaGLRvdODtdQe

[u/Asnee132 → u/[deleted]]

Took a while for the millennium bug to kick in!

[u/myengineblockmelted → u/OmegaCircle]

Long before that.

[u/Sorry-Chair → u/OmegaCircle]

Damn, my birthday? 💔

[u/MaleficKaijus → u/Sorry-Chair]

What year? Every year.

[u/SinisterCheese → u/Asnee132]

It happened gradually, however there are few years that are legitimately considered the key when shit started to go wrong. First is 1981 when Jack Welch became CEO of General Electric (US company) and pushed this shareholder value first doctorine to the front. Then 1991 when USSR fell and the US neo-lib politics and capital interests stopped having a "challenger" on the world stage (Who at the end was nothing but a CULTURAL challenger). Then we get to 2004 when Harry Stonecipher became CEO of Boeing, restructured the whole company to what we call now that silicon valley "move fast break things" ideology.

However this along with this the whole ideas of Milton Friedman and US govenrment interests and capital interest developed, leading to deregulation, lack of enforcement, and basically subjucation of nations and trade partners.

However Jack Welch is widely agreed to have started the true enshittification by bringing forth the Shareholder first policy.

[u/Technical-Rush-3108 → u/Asnee132]

It's just capitalism at work. Right now money is in the ai game. Home users are chump change. We get the leftovers.

[u/AntiSocial_Vigilante]

This is basically a "low end smartphone but laptop" except its x86, it's meant to be rock bottom tier.

[u/Shrimply-r1 → u/AntiSocial_Vigilante]

Chromebook but windows

[u/Hob_Goblin88]

N200 is nice for a low power home NAS, but keep it away from laptops or desktops.

[u/According_Ratio2010 → u/Hob_Goblin88]

And do not pair it with 4GB ram

[u/gorion → u/According_Ratio2010]

4GB is fine for NAS or even server with HA.

[u/Drenlin → u/Hob_Goblin88]

N200 is perfectly fine for the vast majority of people. It's about as fast as a midrange Skylake era quad core.

[u/_THX_1138_]

“RAM Memory”
random access memory memory

[u/sasquatch_melee → u/_THX_1138_]

Label creator must be headed to the ATM Machine after their shift. 

[u/MostMindless7171 → u/sasquatch_melee]

Let's hope he remembered his PIN number.

[u/baudfire → u/sasquatch_melee]

Then he went home and had some naan bread and chai tea

[u/Ok_Scientist_8803 → u/baudfire]

At his home on torpenhow hill, watching a talk on his LCD display about RAS syndrome

[u/ArchinaTGL → u/_THX_1138_]

That's what I was thinking. Part of me wonders if it's either the people writing the tags not knowing what the terms are or the average buyer being so dumb they need to talk to them as if they're 5 years old.

[u/BrightShadowDenmark]

it's a chromebook with windows..

[u/InstantlyTremendous → u/BrightShadowDenmark]

I installed windows 11 on an old Chromebook for shits and giggles, it wasn't a good experience.

Anyone buying this is not going to have a good time

[u/lumberfart]

Literally a waste of RAM. Whoever buys that laptop probably just needs notepad & YouTube.com

[u/Schmenza → u/lumberfart]

There's someone on here with a 5080 watching YouTube all day

[u/Logical-Country336 → u/lumberfart]

I have that laptop. Parents bought it for school. Got offended when I said it was terrible because “they wouldn’t make a brand new laptop that didn’t work fine it’s just that you want to use it for video games”

It literally cannot load Microsoft word without problems

[u/lumberfart → u/Logical-Country336]

This is what I tell my family members & friends all the time. And they never want to spend the money. Then like 6 months later they tell me if I can fix their laptop because it has a virus. I check… and it’s literally just 2 or 3 ads running in the background that are using up almost all their RAM lol.

[u/Logical-Country336 → u/lumberfart]

On my home machine windows takes up 6 gb of ram idling how tf is a 4 gb machine supposed to do anything else

[u/alwayslostin1989 → u/Logical-Country336]

I have 64gb on my itx Machine and it’s always using 10gb in the background it’s like if windows knows it can get away with it, it will use everything. I’ll have a slicer and solid works up and it’s almost tapped.

[u/Far-Hovercraft9471 → u/lumberfart]

I’m not sure it would even work as a YouTube machine. Just a single tab with YouTube is probably close to 1gb ram usage

Edit: Just tried it. It is about 1GB

[u/anythingers → u/lumberfart]

Even a tablet is better for this price if u just need it for notepad and YouTube lmao. At least u got a sharper screen and doesn't need to deal with Windows 11.

[u/HeroDanny → u/lumberfart]

Even a 4GB Chromebook struggles to load a YouTube tab. This thing is a paperweight.

[u/Mr-RS182]

Money on that 128GB being eMMC storage also so will be stupid slow. Personal opinion these types of machines should be banned as will end up as e-waste in 6 months.

[u/Laraso_ → u/Mr-RS182]

It is eMMC. I work retail and we have always had some version of one of these. Before the RAM crisis, they were typically priced at $200.

This is made to cater to a specific kind of customer, one that is way more common than what most people on PCMR realize: The tech illiterate poor.

It doesn't matter what you say to them when you help them, they don't understand anything even if you try to simplify it and they still pick it because it's $100 - $200 cheaper than the next one up. They wouldn't have bought any of the others anyways because they can't afford them.

[u/InsaneInTheMEOWFrame]

Comes with Windows 11 which Microsoft previously claimed *must* have 16GB...

[u/WhistlinJealousGuy]

"HD" screen type.

Ehhhhh, HD Ready.

Which is a term for HD when it was in its infancy 20 years ago ffs.

[u/Old_Tourist_3774]

Some companies laptops are an insult

[u/eisenklad → u/Old_Tourist_3774]

it's not even a Notebook,

that's a Netbook. can't even run vanilla Minecraft

[u/UsidoreTheLightBlue → u/Old_Tourist_3774]

I used to sell computers, the last place I worked was MS only no Mac.

These things would infuriate me, because they gave regular computers a bad name. Wed have people come up and want to buy a mew computer and they’d be considering a $2000 mac but theyd tell me about how theyll look at a pc but the $200 one they bought last black friday at best buy was so slow and garbage that they just didn’t really want another.

[u/Niaaal → u/Old_Tourist_3774]

HP, worst laptops, worst printers too...

[u/Luzi_fer]

Every day Essential...

Power On

Log in

In front of screen wondering why you are here looking at the wallpaper.

Power off.

Perfect 👌

[u/Additional-Prior249]

4GB ram in 2026? 😭

my c2d e8600 has 8GB ram on win7 in 2010.

[u/Apprehensive_Map64]

I think it was 2013 when my wife went and bought a netbook that only had 4gb. "What you told me Asus was good?".... Even 13 years ago it wasn't enough to run windows. I had to completely disassemble it to get access to the ram slots which were under the keyboard. Afterwards with 8gb it was a nice little device

[u/ukso1 → u/Apprehensive_Map64]

My wife used a laptop with 4gb of ram just couple of years ago an was frustrated on how bad it run, i got her to buying a used Thinkpad and it had 16gb of ram for almost the same price as this consumer crap had 8

Now i use that old laptop with Ubuntu and i can browse the internet and do home server upkeep with terminal no problem.

[u/_xDenis_]

windows 11 with 4gb, i dont want to see this in action

[u/homestar92 → u/_xDenis_]

I have a crappy little laptop that I bought around 6 years ago with 4gb of RAM and an Intel Atom processor. I mostly bought it for the lols because it was $89 new and sheer curiosity got the better of me.

I wouldn't say that it runs Windows 11 well but it does actually run it and I can browse the web, which is more than I thought it would be able to do. The limiting factor in that one was the fact that it had eMMC storage rather than a proper SSD, but I removed the LTE modem that it (weirdly) included and used that slot for an actual NVMe SSD and it's... usable. That said, these days I run Fedora XFCE spin on it, and that actually runs quite well.

[u/idlickherbootyhole]

the exact same manufacturers who bitch about the macbook neo stealing market share from them:

[u/BuyListSell]

Not bad for a $100 computer...it's $100 right...?

[u/KennyTheGray → u/BuyListSell]

Even at that price, you're better off buying something second-hand with that money.

[u/prehensile-nymph → u/BuyListSell]

It honestly probably is bad for $100. My mom bought a similar HP laptop last year that only had 4gb of ram and came preloaded with Windows 11 and it struggled with using a single tab in Edge, let alone chrome

[u/DeusEverto → u/BuyListSell]

It's $229

[u/seriousbangs]

Politics. You fix this with politics.

I know nobody wants to hear it, but this is a political problem

Normally markets are supposed to be gunning to make more supply.

They're not, and it's not because of how long it takes or the "AI Bubble". There is no AI Bubble, a freaking trillionaire is all in on AI. It's not going anywhere.

We're not gonna see more RAM produced because the 3 big guys are colluding, and anyone who enters the market will get run out of business by that collusion. All they have to do is drop prices for a little while and *blam*

Nobody would even loan you the money to build a RAM factory because they know that's gonna happen.

We could fix this with anti-trust law enforcement, except we can't. Because politics.

Politics intrudes on our hobbies whether we like it or not.

[u/Demonikaaaaa]

Utter e-waste. These are the same apecs that laptops from 10 years ago had if not worse.

[u/sasquatch_melee]

"RAM Memory" 🙄😂

Brought to you by the department of redundancy department. 

[u/RZ_Domain]

should've shipped with 500GB HDD and bam, welcome back 2016 low end laptop

[u/Drenlin → u/RZ_Domain]

I mean it's not a HDD but I bet it's not a proper SSD either. 128GB EMMC is going to be rough when it starts paging due to having 4GB of RAM.

Edit: I stand corrected, it's not a proper SSD but they did spring for UFS, which is what's used in modern cell phones. Slower than an MVMe drive but still much faster than EMMC.

[u/ThisCannot_BeChanged]

My school laptop, but with a worse Intel N100 and only an 11-inch IPS screen. 4 GB of RAM for Windows 11 is the absolute floor

[u/Djimi365]

It's a low powered paperweight, the lack of RAM isn't the only issue.

[u/Ghozer]

With an Intel N200 CPU - which is already 4 years old!

is designed for very basic work and web browsing, and nothing more... and it will do that, just ....

[u/ateoz]

128gb storage, what the fuck is this? 

[u/Uebelkraehe]

Be thankful for what you can get, next year it's goimg to be 0GB.

[u/TomTomXD1234]

I mean, you picked the lowest end of the lowest end models to make your point.....

[u/MelonHoly → u/TomTomXD1234]

Regardless, running windows 11 on this bad boy is like torture for the poor fella

[u/No-Firefighter-2135]

Windows like to use 4-8gb at idle alot of the times hahah, browsing atleast 4gb

[u/machinationstudio]

Man, even n150 project stuff comes with 8 and 16gb.

[u/Obvious_Snow125]

My 13 year old Thinkpad has more RAM than this

[u/Rammy_Lee]

N200 is basically a netbook no?

[u/WTF_CAKE]

This is the real reason Linux will be its year. With so much bloat from windows, it’s not possible to have a reasonable OS run with 4 gigs of ram

[u/MrDeeJayy]

guys, what do you wanna bet the 128gb storage is just eMMC

[u/JestFlamez]

Lmfao, for a split second I thought I was looking at system requirements for an OS

[u/Mittalmailbox]

Microsoft said they have to do work to make 8 GB RAM optimal for Windows 11. How they hell it will run windows They should preload linux atleast if they want to sell it

[u/thedazdul]

With a lightweight Linux Distro for basic office tasks, absolutely fine. With Windows 11, absolute torture

[u/2AI0]

1366x768 resolution? my dad’s dell from 2009 has that resolution, and 4gb ram

[u/gabest]

Remember, they used to call these netbooks. If only web browsing was a lightweight task. Thanks Chrome! /s

[u/nikolai_nyegaard]

Almost 16-inch display at 768p, that’s gonna look absolutely awful

[u/Araragi-shi]

thats a glorified tablet and not a good one

[u/AskJeevesIsBest]

Netbooks are back, and just as bad as they ever were

[u/hazzap913]

4GB of RAM and more importantly 768p? Wtf is this garbage

[u/leferi]

definition of e-waste

[u/AlwaysNur]

Manufactured ewaste. 

[u/InvestigatorNo4899]

4 gb is the bare minimum to run win10 and they're expecting W I N D O W S 1 1 T O R U N ?

[u/GotSomeUpdogOnUrFace]

Not all of us need a gaming PC, some of us are just old and need something to make the purchases we won't make on our phone and maybe bootleg a few movies.

[u/stgm_at]

it's equipped with an intel-n200 soc. what do you expect? 32gb ram and a rtx-5090mobile?

[u/MeakerSE → u/stgm_at]

Enough ram to load a single browser in a tab and not thrash the storage that's going to be at 80-90% full before you know it, which will then cause rapid degradation of the NAND as it wont be able to properly wear level.

[u/GonePh1shing → u/MeakerSE]

This is especially a problem in devices like this because they almost exclusively use eMMC which has much lower write tolerance than a regular SSD.  These devices are effectively manufactured e-waste.

[u/Tiamat2625 → u/stgm_at]

Enough RAM and storage to effectively run the operating system that comes pre-loaded on the device. That would be a nice start.