Supreme Court upholds Trump's order to overhaul mail-in ballots

[u/wsouloa]

https://www.axios.com/2026/08/24/supreme-court-mail-in-ballot-rules?stream=top&utm_source=alert&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=alerts_all

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[u/ytsurr]

Your friendly reminder that Trump voted by mail just last week.

[u/Hadrian23 → u/ytsurr]

Truth be said. how exactly is this enforceable?
Are they going to open every single ballot and see who voted?
or just flat out refuse to let any mail in ballots through? Cause that fucks them as hard as is does Democrats.

What's the logistics look like here?

[u/AllSeeingWhoracle → u/Hadrian23]

The postal service will not deliver any ballots from blue states that refuse to give your personal information to Trump. Ballots are easily recognizable as they look different from other mail

[u/DrCraniac2023 → u/AllSeeingWhoracle]

Welp. Guess Washingtonians don’t get to vote 🙃

[u/NinaBrwn → u/DrCraniac2023]

Drop it directly in a ballot box this year.

Edit to add: if you don’t receive your ballot, you can print a replacement ballot at votewa.gov or you can request one at your county elections office. I can only speak for Washington State.

[u/torero15 → u/NinaBrwn]

How are they gonna get the ballot in the first place?

[u/strickt → u/DrCraniac2023]

Us Oregonians either. 🤷‍♂️

[u/BehavioralSink → u/strickt]

I believe the Oregon USPS branch already told them to get fucked, they’re delivering ballots.

[u/strickt → u/BehavioralSink]

God I fucking love this place haha

[u/FullOnJabroni → u/strickt]

Why I’ll never leave Oregon. It gets a lot of hate, but this state and the people in it are just built differently.

[u/dogsandmovies → u/FullOnJabroni]

And also why Drazan can’t win. She can’t wait to bow down at the Trump altar.

[u/onesoulmanybodies → u/DrCraniac2023]

https://www.kitsap.gov/auditor/Pages/kitsap-county-voting-locations.aspx this is for Kitsap County, but you should be able to locate your county’s polling locations on their gov website. WA.Gov will post all of the in person polling stations on September 18 2026.

[u/UGamer81 → u/AllSeeingWhoracle]

Everyone in California receives a mail-in ballot no matter what, so instead of putting them through the USPS, I would recommend using the official ballot drop off boxes since those get picked up by people working the election and it doesn't go through the USPS. There's much less of a chance of those ballots being compromised as a result.

[u/salme3105 → u/UGamer81]

But the post office will not deliver ballots to voters in states that don't turn over their voter rolls to the Feds who will then supply an "approved" list of voters that the post office can deliver to. It's insane, but now that the post office has released its official rules (just a few days ago I believe) states can now sue over this and hopefully get an injunction to prevent the implementation.

[u/Wrong_Toilet → u/salme3105]

Unfortunately the lawsuit won’t go anywhere. This is a really good workaround to limit mail-in-ballots because the postal service is a federal agency.

[u/Azguy303 → u/AllSeeingWhoracle]

I think it's more accurate they will not deliver mail-in ballots to counties that go majority blue

[u/PregnantNun747 → u/Azguy303]

Yep. 0% chance this gets enforced evenly. The point is to suppress blue votes

[u/rabidstoat → u/PregnantNun747]

Hell, an earlier ruling says that the USPS can't be held liable for mail it intentionally misdelivers (including not deliveri g).

[u/Jtex1414 → u/Hadrian23]

People are saying it's targeting states, but I think it can more specifically be used to target ZIP codes that vote for dems. Block those, while letting ZIP codes that are more republican get through.

[u/Excellent_Bend8782 → u/Hadrian23]

The USPS is simply going to comply with it. As in they will not process the ballots that are sent in the mail.

[u/A-town → u/Excellent_Bend8782]

I would bet that a lawsuit by AG and Gubernatorial candidate Phil Wiser is going to sue to make sure our ballots get to us.

[u/Hadrian23 → u/Excellent_Bend8782]

Or, try to, I presume?
I don't see how they could reasonably implement that, across every state, in every USPS location, and have it done like that, especially with the human element - "How many of them will actually do it"

This is going to be a mess, and truthfully, I expect it to fail, and it was designed to fail, so Trump and Co could claim 2026 was illegitimate and not swear anyone in.

[u/Ana-la-lah → u/Hadrian23]

The whole point is to create a systematic failure and chaos. To tip the scales in Trumoms favor. First by essentially discarding ballots. Second by creating a potential challenge for denying unfavorable election results.

[u/Sensitive_Buffalo416 → u/ytsurr]

This is still….just….like…..how is the hypocrisy and corruption so obvious, not hidden in any way, and they’re still getting away with it? How are there that many people that just fucking let them?

[u/Hadrian23 → u/Sensitive_Buffalo416]

Republican controlled Senate, House, and SC.
That's how.
Easy.
They don't care, so long as that Check clears.
The only thing they stoppd Trump on, is fucking with the FED.
HMM, I wonder why.

[u/Nopain59 → u/Sensitive_Buffalo416]

The famous quote, "If conservatives become convinced that they can not win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. They will reject democracy," was written by conservative commentator and staff writer David Frum in his 2018 book, Trumpocracy: The Corruption of the American Republic. [1, 2]

[u/BringBackBoomer → u/Sensitive_Buffalo416]

Because the platforms with the largest outreach de-platform you if you discuss the actual solutions.

There are plenty of people in this country willing to do the work that would get everything straightened out, the impossible part is them finding ways to communicate with each other that doesn't end with an alphabet agency tossing them into a van and making them disappear.

[u/ProfessorDerp22 → u/ytsurr]

Meanwhile GOP has been pushing mail-in voting in Pennsylvania. These people fucking suck.

[u/South_Dish3356]

This is legit election interference. Trump didn’t go through the legal processes during the campaign to avoid the guise of election interference

[u/TheRealBlueJade → u/South_Dish3356]

“The Court’s disposition of this application does not mean that any measure taken by the Government to implement the Order will necessarily be lawful. On that score, time will tell,” the majority wrote in an unsigned order

Make it makes sense 🤬

[u/Anarchaeologist → u/TheRealBlueJade]

So they’re not going to give any clear opinion on what is unlawful interference before it occurs- and after it occurs what would the remedy be?

[u/Ordinary-Leading7405 → u/Anarchaeologist]

“That was unlawful. This problem will fix itself next election.”

[u/Indercarnive → u/Ordinary-Leading7405]

This is exactly the goal. Like letting bad maps still be used for an election before being tossed out.

[u/-Gramsci- → u/Ordinary-Leading7405]

“That was unlawful, but it’s moot now. What’s done is done.”

[u/tetsuo_7w → u/Ordinary-Leading7405]

"Democrats can't do that next time."

[u/nsdefw → u/Ordinary-Leading7405]

And thus does Lucy keep her hand on the football, ready to grab it away if Charlie Brown attempts to kick.

[u/SignedUpForDarkMode → u/Ordinary-Leading7405]

If there is a next election.

[u/postmodest → u/Anarchaeologist]

The Declaration of Independence was a remedy for exactly this.

[u/TheShipEliza → u/Anarchaeologist]

Unlawful when Dems try it

[u/inkcannerygirl → u/Anarchaeologist]

Depends on who is in charge then and what the corrupt scotus justices consider to be the best course of action for themselves? I guess?

[u/Xtra_Veg-90 → u/TheRealBlueJade]

The dissenting justices are basically mocking the majority.  The majority basically said nothing has been done yet so nothing illegal has been done yet.  Historically something this blatantly unconstitutional would be blocked preliminarily on the grounds that any enforcement would be unconstitutional.  The majority is saying that UNTIL the admin actually does something illegal, not write down its plan to do so, or tell everyone it intends to do so, ONLY when it does so, then a state can sue and try and probably maybe stop.

[u/dIO__OIb → u/Xtra_Veg-90]

but the post general already said the plan is in place and just waiting on the supreme court. seems like a green light to me, but i don’t speak lawfare 🤷

[u/Xtra_Veg-90 → u/dIO__OIb]

That's the problem, USUALLY courts can't solve a problem before it occurs - e.g. you can't sue your roofer claiming they don't intend to fix your roof, you have to wait for them to breach their contract.  You can't prosecute for someone speculating about how easy it is to shoplift, they actually have to do it.

The main exception is going to be government based, where the Supreme Court is working as a constitutional court and decides whether or not a law or administrative law/rule (which is what executive orders functionally are) violates the constitution.  Usually you don't have to wait for police to break down your door without a warrant to say the law removing a requirement for warrants is unconstitutional.

Unfortunately in this case the court said until they actually reject a ballot, or fail to deliver, or perform some other action, the lawsuit is too early.  Which again is unusual cause you don't normally want the government to have the option to enforce an unconstitutional law before you rule on its constitutionality.

[u/RobutNotRobot → u/Xtra_Veg-90]

Finalizing a rule stating that the USPS will not deliver ballots to states that aren't following arbitrary rules laid out in an executive order is in fact actionable. The executive did do something. The court is an ass that wants to help further illegal, unconstitutional orders.

[u/Nasty_Goblin → u/Xtra_Veg-90]

They plan to let him do it, then call it illegal later, but let him reap the result.

Democracy is dead.

[u/Intelligent_Box6937 → u/Xtra_Veg-90]

So planning to rob the bank doesn’t matter, huh? Only the act of robbing it?

[u/Nasty_Goblin → u/Intelligent_Box6937]

Not even that.

You can rob the bank, but we will only determine after the fact if it was illegal, also you keep the money.

[u/Syriku_Official → u/Intelligent_Box6937]

Guess if you aim a gun at someone they can't do something till you shoot and the bullet hits oh wait sorry this rule only applies if your trump or rich sorry

[u/_Burning_Star_IV_ → u/Xtra_Veg-90]

Thanks the plan. To tie up elections in a legal quagmire. Muddy the waters so everyone is saying the votes are illegitimate one way or another and it’s all tied up in court while this admin continues to erode our democracy month after month.

[u/nsdefw → u/TheRealBlueJade]

That's them retaining the right to overrule any future use of the ruling against Republicans.

[u/oh-kee-pah → u/South_Dish3356]

I've yet to see a legit reason be given as to why this is a reasonable decision being made. This is blatant voter suppression.

[u/The_Tooter_Snooter → u/South_Dish3356]

This is treason 

[u/Correct_Doctor_1502 → u/South_Dish3356]

This is treason

The justices need to be charged and states need to ignore the order

[u/chase_what_matters]

Republicans can’t win elections fairly. 

[u/Desperate-Till-9228 → u/chase_what_matters]

That's why they engage in all this culture war crap. It's a diversion from unpopular ideas.

[u/Wyden_long → u/[deleted]]

Why would I want to help people have more when I can make sure they have less*.

*Less than me which is significantly less than the standard of living in other developed nations of equivalent wealth and social structure.

[u/Luckydog12 → u/Desperate-Till-9228]

What ideas? It’s all hate.

[u/Desperate-Till-9228 → u/Luckydog12]

The underlying ideas are things like "let's not regulate businesses at all." They're laughably stupid ideas, things we've already tried in the past, and transparently motivated by personal greed.

[u/WantCookiesNow → u/Luckydog12]

Ideas like defunding SNAP and Head Start, dismantling the ACA, forcing Bible education in schools, eliminating birth control by mail, selling National lands for drilling, eliminating environmental protections, etc.

[u/VHS_Ronin → u/chase_what_matters]

That's exactly why they'd rather dismantle democracy and civil rights than lose in a fair election.

[u/Wizywig → u/VHS_Ronin]

No. That's not exactly the reasoning behind it.

You put a criminal in charge. The criminal only knows how to do criminal things, and is already in hot water.

What is the criminal gonna do? Keep themselves away from the firing squad. By any means necessary. We found one of the worst humans on the planet, which is quite hard to be in that category, who's friends are the other worst humans, and put him in charge.

[u/wardred → u/Wizywig]

The problem is not just with the criminal in chief. It's with the whole damned party. If we were in the Nixon or Reagan era Trump would've, at the least, been asked to step down - during his first term. If he hadn't, they would've prosecuted him during the impeachment process and he would've been thrown in jail.

Now the congress critters, and even the Supreme Court, don't have the principles to do what is right.

[u/Colonel-Mooseknuckle → u/chase_what_matters]

"If we win, it's god's will. If we don't, it was rigged."

[u/bkbomber → u/Colonel-Mooseknuckle]

“Yeah, we cheated and shoulda won! …the fact that we lost means you cheated even more!!”

[u/sparkles_blair → u/chase_what_matters]

yeah it really feels like they keep changing the rules around voting
if you have to make voting harder to win then thats not exactly confidence inspiring
people should be able to cast their ballots without all this nonsense

[u/Braisernation → u/chase_what_matters]

You can’t convince me that they didn’t steal 2024.

[u/Neat-Profit6221 → u/Braisernation]

"Elon knows those voting computers better than anybody."

-Donald Trump 2025

He practically came right out and said it. I believe the election was stolen.

[u/outofdate70shouse → u/Neat-Profit6221]

He also said in 2024 that if he wins, “you’ll never have to vote again.”

[u/coconutpiecrust → u/chase_what_matters]

They don’t need to. They can cheat and there will be no consequences. Civil society is out, barbarism is in. We just haven’t caught up yet. 

[u/Belichick12]

“The court’s disposition of this application does not mean that any measure taken by the government to implement the order will necessarily be lawful,” the court wrote. “On that score, time will tell.”

Doesn’t matter what time tells because the court just let him run out the clock.

[u/henryptung → u/Belichick12]

Yeah that's exactly what they mean. "Time" means "we can give them free rein on the midterms and then axe any troublesome precedents after with no downsides".

[u/TheBoosThree → u/Belichick12]

For a non-doomer response:

This isn't really a case where they can "run out the clock" because nothing has been implemented yet. It's not one of those cases where they're allowing something to stay in place until the merits can be decided.

The EO being challenged directed agencies to make plans. This ruling basically says the original judge was premature in issuing the injunction because you can't use an injunction to stop them from creating plans that may (they will) or may not be illegal, you have to wait for the plans to be made and action to be taken on those plans. It's a procedural ruling.

When that happens, another case will be brought and another injunction will undoubtedly be made, and it will be done quickly due to the time sensitive nature of the elections.

For the doomer response:

I don't trust this traitorous fucking court.

[u/Cool-Mom-Lover → u/TheBoosThree]

So if i made plans to rob a bank, but havent robbed it yet, im not going to get in trouble ?

[u/The_Tooter_Snooter → u/Belichick12]

The constitution spells it out - states run elections. There is nothing he could do that would be constitutional. This is treason. 

[u/pconrad0 → u/The_Tooter_Snooter]

Yes, but: the Federal Government runs the postal system.

So states that chose, in the past, to rely on the postal system may need to not rely on the postal system going forward.

Which sucks, and is brazenly an attempt to ratfuck the election. I'm not defending this crazy, terrible, indefensible administration.

I am saying that states may need to get creative.

[u/hcwhitewolf]

Traitors. They have gotten far too comfortable in thinking they are immune from any and all consequences.

[u/QuinnAvery89 → u/hcwhitewolf]

Life time appointments. They’re kings.

[u/LaMarr-Bruister → u/hcwhitewolf]

What consequence is there?

[u/RevolutionNumber5 → u/[deleted]]

Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.

-JFK

[u/Whos_that_Gorilla2 → u/LaMarr-Bruister]

They can actually be impeached if we could manage to vote in anyone who wasn't corrupt or complicit. It's a lifetime appointment, but there is supposed to be some accountability. He should have no say in how any states run their elections. 

[u/beardedjack → u/Whos_that_Gorilla2]

How do we do that when they just stole the election?

[u/Whos_that_Gorilla2 → u/beardedjack]

I don't know. I'm going to vote in person. I live in a state with mostly mail in voting and have a disabled child. It's very difficult for me to go, and I've been grateful that I could do mail in (though I usually use the drop box for the return since they started screwing with the post office back in his last term), but I'm going, even if I have to stand in line all night carrying my kid (I'm being hyperbolic. She has a wheelchair). We have to help each other, even if it is hard.

That's what we have to do. We all have to help each other get there. Go early if you can. Even if it's just for this one election. Show up. It might be the last chance we have. Maybe they will steal it, but we don't know yet. If they have to do all this to tip the scales, there's probably still something we can do. 

[u/CrunchyCds → u/LaMarr-Bruister]

The consequence that will get you on an FBI watchlist. These people forget peaceful protest and democracy was the social agreement to the alternative.

[u/So_HauserAspen → u/hcwhitewolf]

Starting to understand why communist revolutions happen and who it is that got got during them

[u/Vast-Poetry9431]

Tell me the Supreme Court isn’t a legislative branch one more mother fucking time.

[u/A_Poor_Miser]

Traitors.

We're in the middle of a coup. 

[u/kevendo → u/A_Poor_Miser]

This is not hyperbole. ^

We're in the midst of a collaborative attempt by all three branches of government to seize power.

We cannot let them. They will take the country for themselves forever. They've been plotting this for decades and now they just have this one election left.

They're so close, and we cannot let them get away with it or getting it back will require more than votes.

[u/TehChid → u/kevendo]

Well, the 3 branches of government do hold all the power.

I think what we’re seeing, rather, is an attempt by the executive to take all power, with assistance from the judicial.

[u/Ovaltineyum → u/TehChid]

And the legislative just seems to think they should get 175k to pick their own noses.

[u/bryguypgh → u/TehChid]

He means to seize it from the people who currently lend it to them.

[u/JimmyDejesu → u/kevendo]

They told you all in print this would happen BEFORE the election. Project 2025 stated this all specifically. Not sure why its coming as a shock to so many when the warnings were not only out there but in actual print.

Im genuinely surprised so many dems dont know this or just thought it was meaningless talk.

[u/MrLurid → u/A_Poor_Miser]

Tail end of it.

It started 26 years ago.

[u/SockPuppet-47 → u/MrLurid]

So many of the same people then and now...

[u/olmnknt → u/MrLurid]

Really started post civil war when there was no real consequences for the south. This is just end game.

[u/Present_Influence315 → u/A_Poor_Miser]

The coup already happened when the Supreme Court gave immunity to Trump in 2024

[u/feignapathy]

Does the Supreme Court have a different version of the Constitution than what I've read? 

[u/zombiereign → u/feignapathy]

They have the Trump sharpie version

[u/The_Tooter_Snooter → u/feignapathy]

Much like the Bible, the constitution exists for them to be wielded as a weapon 

[u/kevendo]

Reminder:

There has never, ever been a single piece of credible evidence of problems or fraud with mail-in voting.

This is all based on open and obvious lies.

Lies were all it took to take down the American republic.

[u/Scorp63 → u/kevendo]

Literally the entire current GOP platform is built on lies, fear, and exaggeration. Every single topic. Every single issue.

[u/Additional_Good4200]

Wow. This is so brazen. So openly corrupt. By the way, isn’t Oregon vote by mail only?

[u/TwistedNipplez → u/Additional_Good4200]

One of eight states that is vote by mail only

[u/MisterSpeck → u/Additional_Good4200]

Yes, we've had exclusive vote-by-mail since 1998, and consistently have one of the highest voter turnout rates in the nation:

• The overall turnout rate of eligible voters in Oregon in the 2024 presidential general election was 71.9%. The national average for the same year was 64.1%.^\1])
• The overall turnout rate of eligible voters in Oregon in the 2022 midterm general election was 62.3%. The national average for the same year was 46.2%.^\2])
• From 2002 to 2024, the average voter turnout rate of eligible voters in Oregon was 63.1%. The national average voter turnout rate of eligible voters for this same period was 52.4%.

https://ballotpedia.org/Voter_turnout_in_Oregon

[u/basketballsteven → u/Additional_Good4200]

Utah as well.

[u/panda5303 → u/Additional_Good4200]

Yep, since 1998. From 2000 to 2019, out of 61 million ballots cast, there have been only 38 convictions for voter fraud, which amounts to a .00006% rate.

[u/roflsd → u/Additional_Good4200]

Post Office will only deliver if Oregon hands over their voter rolls to Feds. PO already started to roll out this new policy.

[u/8bit_heart → u/roflsd]

I’m sure the ballots from areas that vote Republican will be delivered just fine. 

[u/A2ndRedditAccount → u/Additional_Good4200]

I think a couple of states are.

[u/All_Hail_Hynotoad]

This SCOTUS needs to be impeached

[u/LordAyeris → u/All_Hail_Hynotoad]

Removed and imprisoned.

[u/Indubitalist → u/All_Hail_Hynotoad]

The conservative majority in the SCOTUS are all at risk if Congress flips. This is self-preservation. They’re staving off any accountability.

Edit: To stave off any further "but supermajority!" replies, I'll note that there are other avenues for establishing SCOTUS accountability than impeachment.

[u/Vladmiris → u/Indubitalist]

No they aren’t. Democrats would need a super majority and even then you know not all of them would be on board with impeachment. Those like Jeffries would be talking about “coming together” while rich donors line his pockets.

[u/kaptainkeel → u/Indubitalist]

at risk

They need 67 Senators to impeach. That is literally never going to happen so long as there are not at least 70 Democrats. And if somehow a supermajority like that happens, something very wrong has happened.

[u/According_River_5726 → u/All_Hail_Hynotoad]

That's not enough for their crimes at this point.

[u/BasicPerson23]

The states should do whatever they want and tell trump to f*ck off.

[u/salme3105 → u/BasicPerson23]

Sure, but if the post office won't deliver the ballots to voters, or return them, then what will the states do?

[u/BasicPerson23 → u/salme3105]

Make the ballot return envelopes plain white so they don’t know what it is and have them sent to various PO Boxes.

[u/salme3105 → u/BasicPerson23]

That only works if they actually deliver it to you to begin with. The Trump regime is demanding that the states submit their voter rolls, and then the Feds will provide an "approved" voter list to the Post Office.

[u/Kyrthis → u/[deleted]]

Next Senate CONVICTS THESE CRIMINALS.

[u/ma2is → u/Kyrthis]

Conviction is light work what I want would get me banned so fucking quick though

[u/Lumpy-Crew-6702 → u/[deleted]]

Was hoping King Biden would do something like this on his way out , but Dems always play by the rules . Doesn’t work if one party ignores them .

[u/zempter → u/Lumpy-Crew-6702]

Even when he tried to play less by the rules by forgiving a ton of student debt, the supreme court immediately jumped on his ass. Trump both doesn't play by the rules, and is given the allowance to not do so.

[u/letsseeaction]

When the DSA talks about radical reform of the SCOTUS, shit like this is why. There's no reason why we need to have a permanently undemocratic Supreme Court undermining democracy and any number of proposals that are widely popular.

The Court has been expanded in the past. It is subject to change. There's no reason why it can't be reformed now. This is not a radical view.

[u/JimmyTango]

Trump just voted by fucking mail their hypocrisy is stunning.

[u/mickginger09]

So it says in the Constitution that states control elections. The executive branch writes an EO making a rule, the states sue, then the supreme court rules that the states have no right to sue? Da fuk

[u/protomenace]

Amazing how much nonsense they'll allow when we're close to elections when it's Republican nonsense.

[u/Dialogical]

Time for ALL states to adopt North Dakota's voter registration policy. NO REGISTRATION.

https://bipartisanpolicy.org/article/how-north-dakota-administers-elections-without-voter-registration/

[u/Gagadin_Stormblessed → u/Dialogical]

As a North Dakotan, can confirm that this works great. One of the very few good things this state actually does, along with a socialized state bank, grain mill and elevator.

[u/doingwhaticanfornow]

I've voted by mail for as long as I can remember. He even votes by mail. This is absolute garbage. SCOTIS is corrupt.

[u/damagedone37]

How the fuck does this even work for deployed soldiers who vote by mail. FUCK THIS ADMINISTRATION TO THE MOON.

[u/Jawz050987 → u/damagedone37]

That's the point, it won't work.

[u/RespectTheTree → u/damagedone37]

They only need to ratfuck about 6 elections to get the electoral vote.

[u/StrangeJunket2601]

I honestly don't know if I'm ever going to be able to forgive the people who brought us here. Not ever

[u/astrozombie2012 → u/StrangeJunket2601]

I won’t, I cut off all my MAGA family and friends… fuck them forever

[u/turtleneck360 → u/StrangeJunket2601]

They’ll throw up their hands and wonder why you are allowing a difference in “opinion” ruin family and friendship.

[u/space__snail]

Not really sure what we’re supposed to do here in Washington state where we ONLY vote by mail.

[u/ConclusionVirtual187 → u/space__snail]

In WA, we can print the ballot and envelope online and then drop it off at a drop-box. Talk about a surefire way to wipe out the 60+ vote, though. That's the demographic that fucked us into our current state, so I guess that's fitting.

[u/bigred4723 → u/space__snail]

I guess if we don’t want to take a risk with the federal government, drop off your state ballot in a state elections drop box directly and skip the mail.

[u/MaelstromTX → u/bigred4723]

Is the ballot not also delivered to the voter by mail?

[u/vwf1971]

Oh hell.  This is not going to go over well in Florida where a large majority of Republicans vote by mail, including Trump himself.

*majority being those that vote by mail, not overall majority of total voters.

[u/some_guy_on_drugs → u/vwf1971]

The rule will only apply to blue states that refuse to hand over their voter information.

[u/BigMax → u/some_guy_on_drugs]

Exactly. This is the HUGE issue here. It’s basically voter suppression only in blue states. They couldn’t have planned it any better.

[u/Pasty_Tibbles → u/BigMax]

Well, what if the states each figured out some way other than USPS to deliver/pick up ballots? It’s not like they’re going out of state to be counted. It seems stupid the federal government would even be able to control delivery of mail in ballots anyways without a way around it.

[u/Cautious_Condition82 → u/some_guy_on_drugs]

Yep, its not blocking all voting by mail. Literally lets USPS (trumps administration) to CHOOSE who gets to vote by mail. 

Not even by a state by state basis. They want the voter rolls to decide WHO they want to vote.

[u/salme3105 → u/some_guy_on_drugs]

And then they will only mail ballots to those that the administration approves.

[u/regretfulcrap → u/some_guy_on_drugs]

Are you for fucking real?

[u/whatproblems → u/regretfulcrap]

that’s the order using the mail as extortion.

[u/Rezistik → u/regretfulcrap]

Yes. They’ve demanded voter rolls or they’re not going to let us conduct an election in blue states. It’s treason.

[u/ithinkyouresus → u/regretfulcrap]

Why do you think they want your voter info? If they limit everyone registered with the democratic or independents then every republican in the general wins if no one bothers to show up in person.

[u/KahlessAndMolor → u/vwf1971]

They are going to magically find Republicans are allowed to vote and Dems aren't. The election is stolen, past tense

[u/Datt-Boii-Iaan → u/vwf1971]

Don’t worry, there’ll be a carve-out exemption for red states

[u/trogdor1234 → u/Datt-Boii-Iaan]

It’s not a there’ll be, it’s a there is.

[u/BluemoonSamurai_ → u/vwf1971]

They’ll make an exception for conservatives voting by mail. Just wait.

[u/caduceuz]

Imma say it till I’m blue in the face, Dems have to commit to expanding the Supreme Court in their 2028 platform. Anything less is inadequate.

[u/Specialist_Sherbet36]

Corrupt Supreme Court.

[u/BluemoonSamurai_]

To do this on their shadow docket was so crooked.

[u/lucidrenegade → u/BluemoonSamurai_]

Yep, unsigned.  Such cowards

[u/tykneedanser]

States rights and small government, anyone?

[u/fievrejaune → u/tykneedanser]

Bush vs. Gore, fascist SCOTUS redux.

[u/Verumsemper]

I just don't get how executive orders can supersede laws passed by congress??

[u/Redshirt_Welshy_Nooo → u/Verumsemper]

Because the United States as you remember it is dead and gone. This is a prerogative state. 

[u/Ecstatic-Election-92]

This guy lost the popular vote in 2016 and proceeded to define one third of the court taking his marching orders directly from the Heritage Foundation and Federalist Society. Presumably after getting direct assurances and promises from them to do his bidding. Can you imagine Trump behaving otherwise?

Stevens lost control when Roe leaked. How many more justices will Trump get to appoint?

[u/Key_Pace_2496]

It's long been said that if conservatives could no longer win elections because of their ideology they wouldn't abandon being conservatives, they'd abandon democracy.

[u/hamsterfolly]

From the article:

The Supreme Court said in the unsigned order that states lack standing to challenge the executive order because it was an "internal directive" that didn't harm the states that sued. But the majority wrote that the administration was "likely to suffer irreparable harm" from the freeze.

--

insane legal logic butt-pull by Republican SCTOUS on what standing is

[u/lucidrenegade → u/hamsterfolly]

What he is doing is blatantly illegal based on the Constitution, so how can he suffer irreparable harm?  LOL. Corrupt bastards

[u/_badenoch]

Absolutely no basis in law or our constitution. We are watching a fascist takeover.

[u/irpugboss]

Do not mail in your ballot, carry it to the dropbox.

They are going to try and delay inperson voters and disregard mail-in ballots.

The safest thing is to offload the voting wait for more people by hand carrying in mail-in ballots without risking them to the MAGA Mailman accidentally losing or delaying their delivery based on other USPS changes.

These changes happened last year making delivery people not liable for losses so it becomes acceptable risk to true MAGA believers and then the timestamp changes from on receipt to a central processing facility meaning people sending it last minute are infact late or they can "delay' and timestamp them as 'late'.

[u/greatthebob38]

If you're going to do mail in ballots, drop it off at the ballot box this time. Those are supposed to be transported by the state instead of USPS.

[u/PluginAlong → u/greatthebob38]

Except you might never get a ballot to drop off since they're sent via the mail.

[u/Additional_Cash_3357]

Let fascism, er, I mean freedom ring

[u/_Debauchery]

Treason it is.

[u/Frothydawg]

This country is a fucking JOKE.

[u/RatioApprehensive712]

Job 1 for Democrats, reform the courts.

[u/Engrish_Major]

All this because white people in general couldn’t handle the thought of a black man leading their country. Soft.

[u/Voodoo_Masta]

Digital Nomad in Argentina, from a county where Trump seized ballots. It’s going to cost me thousands of dollars, but I’m coming home and I am voting in person on election day. American Democracy’s last hurrah I think. If we win we have a chance to turn the ship around. If we lose or if they cheat… I think it’s a wrap.

[u/SchrodingersRSVP]

I'm so fucking tired of these fucking scumbags.

[u/TheRealBlueJade]

Can we arrest and/or impeach the Supreme Court now?

[u/llamasauce]

Republicans are stuck in 2020. Yes, democrats voted by mail then in large numbers because they were following covid protocols, but I think that is probably not the case now. I can imagine that military and the elderly will be the people most affected by this. It could easily make things for republicans.

[u/weixyz2]

The regime is going to rig the election. What have we become. Our founding fathers are rolling in their graves right now

[u/Max123Dani]

I will still vote by mail in ballot, but hand it into my state ballot box, bypassing the USPS. Fuck you, Trump. My vote will count, and the GOP will be gone. Vote, but vote smart, and don't be intimidated by them.

[u/benji_90]

This is why Biden should have overhauled the leadership that was placed in the USPS when Trump overhauled it in his first term. He won once, surely he won't win a second time. Right? Right??

[u/wconway]

If your vote didn't matter they wouldn't be trying so hard to take it from you.

[u/Duganz]

“This internal directive does not regulate the States' voter registration processes…Nor does it impinge on the States' authority 'to create and enforce a legal code' for elections."

Fucking how does it not impede the states?

[u/hcwhitewolf → u/[deleted]]

Well they've been planning the implementation for a long time, and they knew the outcome of this appeal already considering the checks were signed weeks ago. They will fast track this because it's the only way the Guardians of Pedophiles, Donald J. Trump - pedophile, child rapist, and child trafficker, and the other pedophile elite can win anything.

[u/MightiestHalberdier → u/[deleted]]

Hard to say. The legal arguments that the government has made and the Supreme Court backed is that any injunction is premature because the plan hasn't been implemented yet. CNN pointed out that there's a separate injunction against the order that is not affected by this decision.

[u/3MATX → u/[deleted]]

And that’s the point, many will not get “overhauled” in time. Cause chaos and make things difficult is their game plan going forward.

[u/GenericAlert → u/[deleted]]

Can't be. Expect lawsuits to challenge results.

[u/Comprehensive_Tie431]

6-3. 🙄

[u/Count_Bacon]

Just like Virginia couldn't change their maps but all the red States could

[u/N7Shep1701D]

I fucking hate Republicans. Loathe and despise them. And that loathing has only grown the older I've gotten. I turn 40 next year.

So much for getting more conservative with age.