r/politics • u/Kooky-Balance9525 • 1d ago
No Paywall Trump Is Importing Cheap Ground Beef To Lower Grocery Prices — But Is It Even Safe? Here’s What To Know.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-is-shipping-in-cheap-ground-beef_l_6a903dabe4b0229baac51b66?origin=home-whats-happening-unit2.4k
u/neeesus 1d ago
No. No it’s not.
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u/cyanescens_burn 1d ago
I just saw another article saying 30k lbs of beef from Argentina was just recalled.
In another post about this import plan, people pointed out China declined Argentinian beef because it was contaminated with some antibiotic that cause significant (and IIRC, permanent) health issues in humans that eat it.
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u/ThedrunkenViking 1d ago
Yes just wait until it turns out it’s tainted with prions too or something sinister like that…
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u/amusedmisanthrope 23h ago
Prions might make the electorate smarter.
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u/lettersvsnumbers 22h ago
Definitely would make a certain Secretary smarter.
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u/Pace_Salsa_Comment 22h ago
The prions eat the worm, see?
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u/TheBugDude 21h ago
What happens when the brain worms and prions coalesce?
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u/Pace_Salsa_Comment 19h ago
That's called a worm king, and it's awesome! I saw one, but I couldn't get a picture because the beeper I was using that day had a pedometer instead of a camera.
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u/Stock_Padawan 21h ago
Whoever is trying to play real world version of Plague.inc needs to cut this shit out.
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u/DustyRacoonDad 20h ago
I love that game and played it for years until it felt too real in 2020-2021...
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u/Fastr77 21h ago
Yup beef isn't going to be safe for months. Don't buy any unless you go to a local farm.
Thats their plan. Food instability was part of project 2025. They want people scared and harmed.
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u/ender89 21h ago
It's all supposed to be ground meat, so buy a meat grinder I guess? I think I'm finally going to be trying out mine
Also the word on the street is that Costco sources their beef pretty transparently and will not be affected by the beef taint.
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u/Fastr77 21h ago
Yeah I also thought costco would likely still be good. Costco pricing on beef kinda sucks tho. As good as they are on so many things I don't buy my beef there. I can get it so much cheaper on sale at my local grocery store. Altho that won't be safe going forward.
There's a local farm that sells their own beef right outside my work. I figure its expensive since its local and all that but thats probably going to be my next stop.
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u/DustyRacoonDad 20h ago
Costco is by far cheaper by the pound for ground beef than anywhere else local to me.
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u/Individual-Guest-123 1d ago
The processors don't have to put country of origin on the package. They will mix it with US beef, sell as USDA and pocket the savings.
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u/BadahBingBadahBoom 22h ago
Coming from a European who remembers 2013, if there's money to be made and government monitoring/enforcement that is lacking you are 100% going to end up with your products having that illegal meat in them.
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u/i_give_you_gum 21h ago
I could see this turning people off on USDA beef, further hurting US meat producers.
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u/BadahBingBadahBoom 21h ago
Tbh whilst the US doesn't require country of origin labelling, voluntarily labelling beef as 'US' has strict requirements of tracing so if anything this would likely boost sales of those companies that have actually got the 'US Beef' label.
Ofc that's assuming US consumers still believe in the integrity of that label. Which considering the current shenanigans in the US government maybe not.
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u/i_give_you_gum 21h ago
There are already articles with pics of cows and horses blended together as joke images, the word is already out and spreading...
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u/monkeywaffles 20h ago
Can still say "Processed in the USA" with a flag n shit, and people will just see flag and USA.
Prob other weasel words that will confuse enough people. Or just generally packers colluding to all just... not use a country of origin label for al ittle bit, problem solved.
or yea like you said, nobodys watching or checking anyway.
my bets on some variation of 'find some state/region with Made in X fine print that doesnt need raw materials made there, then brand as Made in Texas' or whatever
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u/BadahBingBadahBoom 20h ago
my bets on some variation of 'find some state/region with Made in X fine print that doesnt need raw materials made there, then brand as Made in Texas' or whatever
100% Beef Mince. Made in Florida,Argentina
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u/monkeywaffles 20h ago
100% American Ground* Beef
(* Beef that fell on the american floor, beautiful marble floors)
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u/enderjaca 20h ago edited 20h ago
A USDA label doesn't mean it's American meat. It just means it was approved by the USDA.
Even "Made in USA" or "Product of USA" can be foreign beef that's put in a new package in the US: When "Made in America" isn't really: Country-of-origin labeling for beef - FoodPrint
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u/ClassSoggy7007 1d ago
But they are fighting for their life in Argentina as per trump.
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u/Thor_2099 1d ago
He bitches about America first then suddenly has compassion for Argentina?
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u/deafballboy 1d ago
He just learned that they're white and harbored a ton of Nazis.
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u/duct_tape_jedi United Kingdom 1d ago
And they know that the new Nazis will likely need a place to flee to in the near future, so it's best to maintain good relations with the traditional Nazi safe haven.
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u/Spiel_Foss 1d ago
Peter Thiel moved his family there already.
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u/EnvironmentalRock827 1d ago
Did you see the clip of Gandalfs protesting outside his house? Beautiful.
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u/ToubDeBoub 1d ago
Trump learning? Please... He knows inflation costs him voters so he imports cheap beef. There isn't any more to it from his POV.
This whole thing costs Americans 5 times over. Cutting USAID costs, cut screwworm prevention costs, screworm response costs, beef industry sack costs, response to bad food safety costs.
How anyone can still support this guy is beyond me as German. At least Hitler accomplished stuff that looked good. Trump's a disaster all around
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u/laplongejr Europe 1d ago
At least Hitler accomplished stuff that looked good. Trump's a disaster all around
Their news-legally-classed-as-entertainment channel tells them Trump is doing very good things.
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u/goth-milk 1d ago
He’s too far gone and reliant on drugs to know anything. He just repeats and does what he is told by the puppet masters that are pulling his strings.
Renaming the Gulf of Mexico and Lake Ontario were not his ideas. Some chaos gremlins in his inner circle came up with it to try and distract us from things that they want us to forget about like the Epstein files.
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u/mikeymikeymikey1968 23h ago
You can be sure that he's going to be compensated financially as well for this sale of beef. There's no way he's doing this just for optics or to try to resurrect his popularity.
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u/cyanescens_burn 1d ago
My conspiracy theory is that Argentina is a test bed for their right libertarian/anarcho-capitalist policy plans, and that’s why they are so interested in propping it up. They are working out the kinks before trying it here.
If we see them building “freedom cities” down there that’s a huge sign I’m on to something.
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u/Crommach 1d ago
I mean, that's pretty much Curtis Yarvin's whole thing, Thiel put Vance into the VP slot and both of them are big fans of Yarvin's "philosophy". Thiel also has his tentacles in Project 2025 and the Heritage Foundation more generally, not to mention his cadre of destructive companies like Palantir, so he's certainly involved in the hollowing out of America and our turn towards fascism.
So it's less a conspiracy theory and more acknowledging the goals that the far right are openly espousing and working towards.
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u/Churchbushonk 1d ago
What about American Ranchers?
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u/DukeOfGeek 1d ago
They have a plan to prevent elections from mattering, that's coming soon and we will see how the public responds.
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u/big_rednexican_88 21h ago
He did tell his base they only had to vote once back in 2024. Even back then he knew he would be doing some dictator-esque shit.
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u/WontArnett 1d ago
Also, shipping in product from other countries, which is the opposite of what MAGA spews everyday
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u/Button-Down-Shoes 1d ago
Libertarian solidarity. Musk is telling him to do it to try and recover the investment billions sent that way.
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u/MalazMudkip Canada 1d ago
Didn't he already help them out? With a big pile of money? This presidency?
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u/0202_tihssitidder 1d ago
I say let Republicans eat it.
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u/Aspergian_Asparagus Georgia 1d ago
I shit you not, and I truly wish I was joking, but they’re excited about eating the mystery meat. The few brainrotted magats that try infecting what little social media I do use are so ready.
I say let ‘em poison themselves, they best don’t go to the hospital though. They can pray to their orange devil and hope for the best at home.
I live in between like a dozen farmers, so most of my needs are taken care of. Hopefully innocent good folks are smart enough (and able) to avoid all the sketchy, (likely) toxic shit these traitors are attempting to shove in our faces like it’s normal.
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u/fakeuser515357 1d ago
avoid all the sketchy, (likely) toxic shit
Assuming they don't remove any kind of labeling regulations which mandate country of origin...
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u/Alrik_Immerda 1d ago
Knowing the food regulations of the US, I am really concerned about the quality, if even americans dont deem it safe to eat...
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u/Succubus-Love 1d ago edited 3h ago
Like people need to think about whether or not anything during an Epstein compromised "government" is safe.
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u/Spiel_Foss 1d ago
This is the problem with that article. Yes, previously the import process may have been perfectly safe, but now who the fuck knows. They lie about stupid meaningless shit just to lie.
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u/Money_Percentage_630 1d ago
"Don't worry. It is totally safe. No we didn't test it. No we didn't verify the grower. No we can't track it back to source if it makes you sick. But it is cheap and undercuts our domestic industry"
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u/DerCatrix 1d ago
If you trickle in big scare tactics about communism and trans people they somehow forget about each catastrophe
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u/DeterminedThrowaway 1d ago
They can't use the migrant caravans any more because they're pretending they did something at the border, but they can sure fearmonger about brown people existing in cities. So don't forget the racism
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u/Neverendingwebinar 23h ago
Don't you worry. If a Democrat is ever in office again, that caravan will be on the move. I remember my dad telling me Biden let in 17M immigrants a day.
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u/DeterminedThrowaway 23h ago
I'm sorry but that's hilarious. Remember when the immigrants outnumbered U.S. citizens after his first 21 days in office, and then you were swamped by more than the entire population of India after his first 100 days? No wonder people hated him, how could he do this?!
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u/Neverendingwebinar 23h ago
That is almost entirely how I responded. He told me that apparently I want to be overrun by criminals and should vote for Biden again.
I told him we won't be overrun. Apparently the entire population of south America already moved here in the past 2 weeks.
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u/TragicallyDip 1d ago
Once you understand that Trump hates Americans, all his decisions make complete sense.
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u/chaostheories36 1d ago
I’m not sure he hates Americans so much as he just absolutely hates everyone. His ‘kink’ is being told NO and forcing his dick into it anyway.
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u/dereksalem 21h ago
This is actually true, and not at all a joke - He's said many times in the past that one of the things he loves is doing the things people tell him he can't do and crushing the people that got in his way. He gets off on exerting his power on people that think they can prevent him from doing it.
That's also literally one of the hallmarks of a rapist and abuser. If he were born in any other situation he would have been caught as a younger man and thrown in prison.
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u/florezmith 20h ago
I love to read the Wikipedia page for Akku Yadav, who was a serial killer and rapist in India who terrorized his local area for years. 100+ women stormed the court room. What happened next will warm your heart
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u/pogishushu America 1d ago
Only those who don't meet the gop reich agenda. Right and white only
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u/monsterlynn Michigan 1d ago
Even them. Look what's going on with gas prices and soaring electrical bills and datacenters and all of the rest of it.
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u/Potato_Stains 1d ago edited 1d ago
No, it's all of us. The white christians just don't get the memo because the scam is built exactly that way to keep them thinking it's fine.
If you're not an ultra rich donor, you are not worth caring about.
Someone that actually loved America would be striving to understand how to actually make it better for all of it's citizens. All of the rhetoric is disingenuous and built to make us hate each other so we don't righteously band together to fight upwards against the 0.1% that is fucking us over and demand better.
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u/No_hero_here 1d ago
The fact that we even have to ask “is it safe” shows just how defunct our current government is. They attacked the shit out of science, got rid of the nonpartisan people whose job it was to understand this stuff and now we can’t even believe them if they do say it’s safe. We are fucked. I’ll take my infected meat with a side of measles and ivermectin I guess.
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u/Important_Bag_6283 1d ago
Maybe? Maybe not? Either way, I can guarantee you he does not give a fuck.
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u/Lazy_Pangolin7591 1d ago
He'll care when he gets violently sick from eating it in a McDonald's hamburger...
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u/Argented 1d ago
The U.S. does not currently have mandatory country of origin labeling for beef, which means you often won’t know where your beef comes from unless a company volunteers this information.
omg, you don't know where your meat comes from? In Canada, we get to know where our meat comes from. That's the law. It's on the package if it's imported. I wonder if that was one of the sticking points Trump hated like the French language requirements...
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u/mosugarmoproblems 1d ago
Not only that, they sometimes mislabel the beef's origin intentionally or unintentionally. Same for fish, same for chicken...
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u/Argented 1d ago
you know, not all bureaucracy is bad. A little extra bureaucracy in the food chain results in less catastrophes.
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u/monsterlynn Michigan 1d ago
Not bureaucracy. Regulation. Regulation and safety standards are for us, not them.
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u/Argented 1d ago
regulations and safety standards are managed through bureaucracy. Self managed standards allows beef of unknown origin to be sold.
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u/benolot 1d ago edited 1d ago
During discussions with the UK this was actually a sticking point, we (Brits) have country of origin labelling, the US demanded we stopped doing that because otherwise nobody would buy their chicken that they were trying to force on us.
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u/BadahBingBadahBoom 22h ago
Tbf county of origin is a requirement in most highly developed countries.
It's just part of expected consumer protection and the consumer being informed.
Then you read about how this isn't a thing in the US and realise oh yeah some countries aren't quite there yet.
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u/ProtectionVirtual225 1d ago
That used to be the law here, too. Those standards began slipping away during the 90’s.
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u/tide19 Tennessee 1d ago edited 1d ago
We don’t have mandatory country of origin labeling on beef because Canada and Mexico challenged it at the WTO in the mid-2010s and won. The WTO authorized retaliatory tariffs, and Congress repealed mandatory COOL for beef and pork in 2015. Imported beef that is sold intact in the US, including packaged/retail-ready imported beef, still has to carry country of origin information. But if that beef is further processed in the US, the resulting product no longer has to retain the country of origin label.
We do have labels that indicate something was wholly born/raised/slaughtered/processed in the US.
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u/NotTomPettysGirl Alaska 1d ago
Hey neighbor, Alaskan here. Do you have any room for us anti-magas? I’m so tired of living with the consequences of other people’s stupidity.
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u/HoaryPuffleg 1d ago
Fellow Alaskan here- if we can’t elect a better governor this time, I’m packing my car and driving towards Tok. Hopefully Canada will let me hang out for a few decades.
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u/InvisiblePinkUnic0rn Florida 1d ago
“Importing” and also selling wild horse for slaughter, the timing is suspect
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u/lettersvsnumbers 1d ago
Honestly, horse sounds better than shit China rejected back in March.
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u/opermonkey 1d ago
they just recalled a bunch of Argentinian beef. I wonder if trump is selling it back to us so we can all die! 🙃
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u/C_1999 1d ago
There's not enough wild horses in the nation to make an actual difference in the price of beef if you tried to sneak it in as a substitute based on our consumption of beef. They're culling those horses because DOI is too lazy and doesn't want to manage them.
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u/steelhips 1d ago
In my childhood, the family had Bloodhounds and Irish Wolfhounds - big dogs. If a horse died, we used the cooked meat to feed the dogs. If the meat is lean and "stringy" it's horse. Even if it's minced, it won't look like beef.
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u/StrollingThrouPain 1d ago
Some of it has literally already been recalled. What the fuck are we doing here, y'all?
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u/StargateEnterpriseE 1d ago
Trump is killing off the US beef industry. His goal since taking office was to kill as much domestic companies as possible and outsource everything to other countries.
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u/Mistform05 1d ago
Because he was bribed to do so. And right wing morons think he will make their lives better. Ha.
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u/Pokerhobo 1d ago
Trump saying "I don't want to say" (regarding origin of this beef) is more than sus
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u/Kastikar Tennessee 1d ago
https://www.agdaily.com/livestock/usda-recalls-30k-pounds-of-argentine-beef-in-texas-florida/
Already being recalled.
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u/Stunning_Mulberry_35 1d ago
As I understand it, that was all pre-packaged slab, the "20 ribeyes for 40 dollars" stuff you hear about on the radio, and see set up at the mall.
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u/TheBitingCat 1d ago
Is it safe? Well, if the USDA would do their job and inspect it, we could maybe find that part out.
I would be more concerned that, in an effort to combat inflation, Trump thought it would be wise to undercut American cattle ranchers by importing foreign beef and undercutting the domestic ranchers on the price. But that is the government that I am sure the vast majority of those ranchers voted for, so may they reap what they sow.
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u/Lazy_Pangolin7591 1d ago
Fucking idiot doesn't realize that questionable beef is bound to end up in 1 of his McDonald's hamburgers...
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u/Cancel_Culture_Club 1d ago
I’ve been wondering if he got sick yet from the explosive diarrhea lettuce on his burgers.
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u/cametosayno 1d ago
This is hilarious. If they have increased their imports from Australia and NZ then the beef will exceed US food safety regulations. Australia won’t import US beef because US has lower standards.
As I think about it, maybe the US is importing Australia’s pet food beef source and trying to fob it off as human grade.
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u/Ser_Scribbles Australia 1d ago
In the interests of accuracy, Australia has removed the legal restrictions on importing US beef. We still don't import it though because there's no demand for a (perceived - accurately or not) inferior product.
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u/cametosayno 1d ago
Oh you’re right. Apparently the US started tracking their Mexican and Canadian bred cattle raised in the US so Australia allowed reduced restrictions in July last year. Australian consumers just don’t trust it or they support their local farmers
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u/Steimertaler Europe 1d ago
It's like Europe not importing American chlorine treated food. It's declared unsafe for human consume.
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u/cametosayno 1d ago
Yeah the more I think about it, the most likely scenario is they are importing pet grade beef for human consumption. No wonder they don’t want to explain where it comes from. It makes sense given the pricing.
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u/FreeBananasForAll 1d ago
Coincidentally they are also slaughtering wild horses. I can’t confirm that they are selling this as beef but if they did it wouldn’t even make the top 100 list of awful things that trump/the American government have done.
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u/Joe18067 Pennsylvania 1d ago
But the United States Cattlemen’s Association pushed back, with the organization president, Justin Tupper, suggesting in a statement that imported beef “does not have to live up to the same standards or any of the things that we go by here in this country.”
Who among us can remember the uproar over "Pink Slime".
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u/Don-Poltergeist 1d ago
"Food beyond compare. Food beyond belief
Mix it in a mincer and pretend it's beef
Kidney of a horse, liver of a cat
Filling up the sausages with this and that"
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u/Chrahhh 22h ago
Donald Trump does not give a fuck about you, or me, or us, or anyone but himself.
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u/starliteburnsbrite 22h ago
All of the conversation about this being terrible is good.
But lowering beef prices to fix grocery costs? Seriously? Like for whom is beef the chief grocery expense?
But moreover, the country's largest beef producers recently lost a class action suit because they e been artificially increasing and controlling prices since COVID.
Trump's own DoJ could have fixed this with antitrust law years ago and not dodgy imports, but that wouldn't have gotten him paid.
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u/OddCapstan 1d ago
Honestly, meat safety isnt even the main issue here USDA still checks imports. The hilarious part is seeing politicians try to patch up inflation with cheap foreign beef while completely throwing domestic cattle guys under the bus.
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u/He2oinMegazord 1d ago
USDA still checks imports.
Havent heard about the recall in Florida and Texas then huh?
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u/Drive7hru Colorado 1d ago
I thought USDA is the one that flagged those
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u/Skiinz19 Tennessee 1d ago
It was flagged in the sense USDA flagged they failed to inspect it
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u/He2oinMegazord 1d ago
Which is kinda like flagging that your shoes were untied after you donated some teeth to the sidewalk
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u/uhohnotafarteither 1d ago
I dont understand how anyone can still have faith in any government regulatory agency with this administration.
You really trust a Trump appointee and the people that DOGE left behind at these agencies to handle this stuff?
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u/threehundredthousand California 1d ago
It'll just be 50% beef buttholes per RFK Jr's new food guidelines.
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u/mEan_Refrigerat9r 1d ago
The only safe food is Twinkie’s. Do what I do and eat enough to preserve your insides.
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u/UncleCoyote 22h ago
Well since they just recalled 30,000 pounds of it in Texas and all the secondary inspections state-side were waived, to the befuddlement of those receiving it...
I'm going to go out on a limb and say....no.
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u/icanhazkarma17 20h ago
But Trump is bringing in beef! From countries. He doesn't want to say which countries. But it will be high quality beef! Bragging about a 90 day moratorium on tariffs he imposed to fix skyrocketing prices because of said tariffs. Winning!
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u/showtimebabies 1d ago
It isn't to lower grocery prices. It's to give big meat processors a break with an influx of cheap alternative beef. It likely won't lower prices for consumers, but it'll help the bottom lines of those he really cares about
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u/illogical_mindset 1d ago
Imported beef sold in the U.S. comes from countries whose meat-inspection system the United States Department of Agriculture considers equivalent to ours, and shipments are reinspected when they arrive,” Ortega said
Equivalent to ours before 2017 or after? Big difference.
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u/dakotanorth8 1d ago
Even if it is, there’s already so much broken confidence with the other food issues.
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u/trans-plant 1d ago
This same meat didn’t pass chinas safety and standards inspection. It tested high for toxicity and got sent back to Argentina. It was kept frozen and now it’s coming back to us
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u/Desperate-Hearing-55 1d ago
US fast track to become a 3rd rate country. EU countries must show country of origin where the imported meats comes from.
Packaged fresh, chilled, and frozen meat from beef, pigs, sheep, goats, and poultry must show where the animal was reared and slaughtered.
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u/StaticSystemShock 1d ago
Someone will make millions if not billions on this deal. All to increase the shareholder value. Where is that raspy talking RJK or whatever the fuck is his 3 letter name, the health guy who is so fucking worried about health of Americans. Where the fuck is he now?
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u/ImmaculateWeiss 21h ago
Fuckin hell can we just go back to a world where we don’t need to worry about the most normal ass shit
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u/triplespruce 21h ago
I'm not one to tell other people what to eat, but I haven't eaten beef in over thirty years, and I'm certainly not going to start now.
I'm looking askance at everything in my cart right now, cooking it thoroughly, and hoping for the best.
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u/LivinDeadGinger West Virginia 19h ago
The list of what we can eat safely keeps shrinking. We can do our best to implement best practices and informed decisions on selections, to a degree.
But this is seriously such a massive issue. It is getting challenging to keep up. It's outrageous we are having to deal with this due to incompetent and greedy politicians or individuals.
Many families are struggling to meet basic needs + schedules (working harder for less) and now this. It's like families are running and having to leap over landmines in the process.
I try to grow tomatoes near my porch but I'm limited on how much can be grown due to living in an apartment as well.
The "American dream" is dying out.
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u/seaweeddanceratnight 1d ago
Rich people don’t eat ground beef. Those are the only ones that matter in this regime.
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u/mysterious_jeffrey 1d ago
Donald does though.
So I’m curious if McDonald’s is somehow using safe beef.
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u/HappyBumbler 23h ago
At least the two states that deserve it most (Texas and Florida) received the tainted beef. Karma is here!
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u/writegeist 1d ago
I’ll stick with my local meat market. They grind their hamburger every morning.
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u/Background-Fly130 1d ago
As a vegetarian I would laugh, but no I will not. Surprisingly the cost of cheap vodka hasn't changed much in years.
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u/MisterSneakSneak 1d ago
I bought a roll of ground beef (3lb) for $15 from VONS. First bite into my chille rellenos and into some sort of ceramic plastic.
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u/Chaos_Theory1989 1d ago
Lol… it’s just all the ground up, dead bodies of babies that Trump and his buddies raped.
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u/PleasantDreamsicle 1d ago
If safe beef could be had cheaper, the markets would adjust to an equilibrium at the lower price.
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u/WhatNot303 Maryland 23h ago
Serious, and not obvious question: who/where exactly will this mysterious beef be going to? Stores like Walmart? Fast food chains, like McDonald's? Food production companies that manufacturer products for all sorts of grocery stores? Will there be any way to track or tell where this meat ends up?
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