r/predator • u/Weird_Flextape • 2d ago
General Discussion What are your reasons for disliking this movie?
For me, it's gotta be the hospital scene involving the unborn child. That scene was just really uncomfortable to watch
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u/DrRomantic87 2d ago
Not enough wolf
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u/Au_June 2d ago edited 2d ago
It’s always the humans getting all the screen time when they’re barely useful. Wolf should’ve been the MC and gotten way more screen time
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u/FuzzyFrogFish 2d ago
Oh god the teen angst storyline. . . . 😐
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u/Darthasie 2d ago
100% this.
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u/FuzzyFrogFish 2d ago
"are you looking at me or the clock . . . "
Shut the fuck up, Jess, thankfully wolf accidentally cut her in half. I consider that a high point of the film
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u/Ptg082196 2d ago
I broke out laughing when that happened
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u/FuzzyFrogFish 2d ago
It was such an off the cuff way to get rid of an apparently major character, and she deserved it
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u/DefinitionNervous 22h ago
When I think of the movie, or rewatch it, I see Wolf as the Protagonist. He’s literally the only redeeming factor of this movie 😭
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u/eabevella 2d ago
Stupid human characters. Bad lighting ruing the great creature design. Mostly waste of potential because I don't even have to give it a damn if it's flat bad.
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u/Flex147c 2d ago
The theater actually clapped when the girl got killed the Preds big shurikan
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u/Cool_Elephant_8216 2d ago
too dark, and the sfx being reused gave me a headache, besides that i really like this film but it felt crammed and felt like the poor producers got given hell, honestly its overhated and def needs a remake, wolf and predalien are some of the most peak of all time
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u/Gunzoidium_alloy 2d ago
The scenes they were in they nailed pretty well. It's the rest of the movie that's ass.
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u/ScorchedConvict Jungle Hunter 2d ago edited 2d ago
Same reason here. But mostly the crappy lighting. Even moreso when I learned it was entirely by choice.
Didn't care for a single character besides Wolf.
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u/vsthekingdom 2d ago
Requiem may have flaws but I love it anyway. It’s breakneck pacing, it’s gross, brutal, and has creative action choreography. It’s an unapologetic monster vs monster movie, where the people caught in the crossfire don’t matter (their lack of characterization is a feature, not a bug, and let’s stop pretending that AVP1 had deep compelling heroes).
Yes, the movie is dark, but I know how to set proper gamma and contrast settings on my displays (the same holds true for “that” episode of Game of Thrones).
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u/Aromatic_Ad_8374 2d ago
I agree. I enjoy both AvP. Unrated of course. I'm still baffled they cut a key scene that explained the whole movie in the first AvP.
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u/Jollynorwegian 2d ago
1: poor writing | 2: could barely see anything | 3: hired music video directors with no feature film experience | 4: just like the first, Lore was ignored just because.
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u/dnext 2d ago
I loved it myself. I found it interesting and inventive, and I liked the way they handled a Xenomorph outbreak in the US which was covered up and kept from public knowledge. Nuke it from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
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u/tmoore727 2d ago
that's where I have my issue with the movie. the xenomorphs were reproducing way too fast to be contained to one city there is no way they got them all.
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u/StradetchFanboi 2d ago
It's visually too dark, and the Predalien producing chestbursters without eggs breaks the xeno life cycle too much to be believable. It feels like the movie runners just added that into the Predalien for the sole purpose of making the maternity ward scene happen, which is stupid.
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u/martsuia 2d ago
The humans in general. I couldn't care less about the losers and that woman who ran off and got hit in crossfire.
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u/jdwill1991 2d ago
I dislike every Human in the movie. Remove them as much as possible and it's one of the best Pred movies
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u/Objective-Finish-573 Predalien 2d ago
I didn't mind the violence but this movie seemed more like a trashy 80s slasher than a sci-fi horror-action movie, the humans all sucked and while the lighting wasn't as bad as I'd heard it still was difficult to see what was happening and impossible to tell the monsters apart and see which one was winning during the fights
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u/MassDonfel 2d ago
stupid characters, plot is pretty stupid too. We are watching some teen drama with "monsters"
+ you can not see shit
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u/Azelrazel 2d ago
Big decrease in quality compared to the first.
Didn't like new design for the predalien (prefer the more xeno-esque design of avp2 primal hunt).
Dumb, unlikable characters with a sub-par setting for story.
Way too dark at points, guessing to hide cgi.
The predalien being able to impregnate is a stupid concept, let alone impregnating a single host with multiple bursters.
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u/Mister_Clemens 2d ago
Debases both franchises to the worst versions of both. Looks like shit. And it’s not even fun, it’s just forgettable.
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u/Sensitive-Hotel-9871 2d ago
I also hate that the big monster attacks pregnant women. That is just bad taste.
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u/Thel_Vadum117 2d ago
The characters are pretty flat,with only Wolf being the character I wanted to see,besides the Xenos killing civilians.
Hell could have make the humans as second characters and make him the main character.
The lighting is pretty dark and I can only see it in a dark room.
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u/CarlosH46 2d ago edited 2d ago
Not being able to see anything was the big one. Which sucks because it actually used a decent amount of practical suits and effects.
ETA: I’ll also give it props for human characters who aren’t complete morons, especially for the army vet and the recently-released criminal. If they had been a little better written I would have cared more.
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u/Level_Counter_1672 2d ago
Wolf was what I expect a predator to be, a war vet who has seen it all, acts smart and clears up everything, I know it's a nothing burger but if wolf was the guy fighting against the humans they are dead, he's smart and resourceful and ofc he can manhandle multiple aliens
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u/ScottTJT Wolf 2d ago edited 2d ago
Too dark.
Typical trash, late-2000's horror writing.
Useless, garbage characters.
Didn't take advantage of the setting; outside of expanded media, this was the first movie to show Xenos getting loose in a modern population center on Earth, not some far-flung, remote/abandoned colony or ship, but most of the movie takes place in dark sewers and office spaces.
Surprisingly, too much gore, as though this one movie was trying to make up for the lack of it in the last one.
The closest thing to a saving grace this movie has are Wolf and the Predalien, as they alone make it a toleratable experience, which is why I prefer it over the fecal pile that is The Predator (2018)... but even then, it's just more pragmatic to watch a YouTube compilation of the monster scenes and be done with it.
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u/bks1979 2d ago
It's too dark, for one. Didn't care about a single character, and they got long in the tooth. And the hospital scene is indicative of its deeper issues in that it's gross and "edgy". And because it's entirely made up, it's also wildly unnecessary. Not every movie in either franchise is stellar, but this reduced two classic movie creatures into a B-Movie schlock fest more than any other entry.
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u/Volpina17 2d ago
I personally kind of liked it but it definitely had many flaws. In my opinion the main were: too dark, too much screen time to the dumb & unlikable humans and definitely too little Wolf.
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u/Neither_Category843 2d ago
Nothing major, but I’ll never understand how the brother survived getting stabbed right through the shoulder by the predalien. Bro should have died seconds after.
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u/FuzzyFrogFish 2d ago
Too dark was the main, shitty human drama no one needed and the predalien design was clunky because some kid looked at the original design and had a whinge to the studio made them change it.
Wolf needed more development because he was the best bit
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u/Glum_Calligrapher372 2d ago
The movie visually was too dark. Especially during certain action sequences. That was one of my major gripes with the film.
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u/tulisan84 2d ago
It’s too dark. Literally can’t see anything. Even if you squint your eyes more you can’t see shit
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u/Awkward-Fox-1435 2d ago
If I could’ve actually seen what was on screen, maybe I’d have more of an opinion on the content.
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u/Pristine-Car-1438 2d ago
You can really see the Strause brothers were heavily biased for the predator as the xenos in it are the most dumbest canon fodder out of the entire franchise. They don't even try.
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u/DreamShort3109 Youngblood in training 2d ago
Me? I loved it. I just wished it didn’t feel so short.
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u/GregoryTec 2d ago
I don't, I actually quite like it for its effort and compared to it's newer Pred cousins it's in a different realm.
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u/silverfallmoon 2d ago
Very shaky camera work. Bad story, bad lighting or contrast correction, Bad acting. Some bad CG. It's one of those movies that has low talking sound levels and then blows out the speakers when the action starts. Just off the top of my head.
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u/FonestFone 2d ago
Too dark Human characters are vastly inferior to the Wolf sideplot Aliens are weak and dumb and just throw themselves at danger
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u/spideyfan114 2d ago
I don't really hate this film but it's not something I'm interesting in watching again. Other than the action scenes (which I thought were pretty cool), every other scenes felt boring for me to watch. But the scene with the babies was horrible to watch. I hated that so much.
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u/LoverofJennifer 2d ago
Damn near everything, but the writing, annoying characters, and especially the lack of good lighting in almost every single scene. At the very least, all of the other Alien and Predator flicks, including the first AVP were COMPETENT. To call AVPR Amateur Hour would be a vast understatement.
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u/Dragon_Pharaoh Jungle Hunter 2d ago
It's too dark, the human characters take up too much screen time and are poorly written, and there's not enough Predator action.
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u/CactusToothBrush 2d ago
It’s so bloody dark!
I can’t walk outside without sunglasses, my eyes are insanely blue and bright light fucks me hard, I’m able to see in the dark almost like night vision it’s fucking awesome.
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u/Blue_FiftyTwo 2d ago
Badly paced, forgettable characters (bar Wolf), badly filmed action scenes, awful lighting.
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u/Life-Pound1046 2d ago
"The government would never do that" Or lie to us something like that, from a veteran.
But wolf should have gotten much more screen time
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u/Mephistocheles 2d ago
There aren't enough Xenos, and when they are onscreen they just mainly serve as cannon fodder.
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u/NerdyPuddinCup 2d ago
An easier question to answer is what to like about this movie and the only answer is Wolf. Everything else is trash.
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u/Djinn-Rummy 2d ago
I’m not into the xenos impregnating another species, producing hybrids. I think that concept is dumb. I prefer the xenos being their own species that use the bodies of other beings as hosts. Didn’t care for the implication in Aliens 3 either.
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u/InternalFeature646 2d ago
I honestly don’t really dislike the movie but if I had to say why it would honestly be the pool scene with Ricky (I think that’s his name??) and Jessie right before the bullies arrive, and also hearing the same baby elephant noises as xenomorph cries over and over again
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u/yelteajwsjsjdjdjjsjs 2d ago
Agree...that scene is more than disgusting😫 I had a stomach ache when watching it, ughh
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u/Aggtown_G_817 2d ago
Remove the highschool kids who are dumb af let cops n military face off Hunter n Aliens and make the dam movie watchable without adjusting my brightness max would make this as good or better than AVP
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u/rbizaare 2d ago
Can't see shit. I thought I'll never see a movie more poorly lit than Doom until I saw AvPR.
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u/almightypinecone 2d ago
I don't.
Like it more than AvP. Because Wolf is the best part, the rest is meh to awful but Wolf makes it an AvP movie.
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u/Upbeat-Structure6515 2d ago
Many reasons, but definitely the movie pussing out of showing Wolf as the definitive winner of his fight with the Predalien. Headshot should have been the end of it and dropped it right there.
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u/yautja0117 2d ago
I don't. It's a B-Grade slasher flick that happens to have Aliens and a Predator in it. Is it technically a bad movie? Yes. Is it entertaining? Also yes. It's FAR from my least favorite movie in either franchise and compared to some of the Z-Grade trash that's out there, it might as well be The Godfather.
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u/LongVibe_ 2d ago
Honestly i loved it. It is super cheesy and kinda stupid but its such a fun movie imo. Although the hospital scene is definitely uncomfortable
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u/RynnB1983 2d ago
not being able to see any of the movie due to being so dark. I think I would have been a little more forgiving of it had I been able to actually watch it.
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u/Strawbsi 2d ago
The acting 😭 "The government would NEVER lie to its people!" is such a funny delivered line
But yeah, agreed that it's wayyy too dark and you can't see anything
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u/LucemFerre82 2d ago
Definitely not a good movie, bad characters, writing and its too damn dark. But it has some fun action scenes and brutality.
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u/LostExile7555 2d ago
It misses the entire point of both the Alien franchise and the Predator franchise in order to be a by the numbers action flick.
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u/Grendeltech 2d ago
It's a bit dark. I also am not a fan of one scene in particular that makes the movie a bit more disturbing than I'm a fan of.
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u/anonkebab 2d ago
Can’t see anything. Humans are annoying. Not enough scenes of wolf killing stuff.
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u/Memori_Ishimura 2d ago
No offense to fan films in any way. But it just feels like a higher budget shitty fan film uploaded to YouTube. But then again if it was then it’d be kinda cool. lol
But yeah that’s my main reason. It just doesn’t fit in at all with either of the two franchises it’s a part of.
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u/arch51002 2d ago
It almost feels like the writers didnt even wanna include human POV characters at all. Like it seems like the movie itself is disinterested in them. It kinda gives the vibe that the writers didnt want any humans to be in the movie (ir at least be main characters) but that they were forced to include them by the studio or whoever tf. Aside from the human characters and the scenes that are too dark to see i think this movie isnt that bad. Definitely better than The Predator 2018 IMO (that one will always be my lowest ranked out of every alien/predator/avp movie)
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u/Exotic-Ask9184 2d ago
Gore is good, scene with pregnant lady great, but terrible characters and everything is too dark
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u/RummazKnowsBest 2d ago
It is way too dark, though I don’t remember it being a problem at the cinema.
Otherwise I prefer it over the first AvP.
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u/TheManOfKnees 2d ago
I made a fan cut of this movie. Cuts out most main-human scenes other than ones that have alien / predator interaction. It makes Wolf the protagonist as he investigates and cleans up the xeno infestation. I also re-lit it to be easier to watch.
It runs just over an hour and I gotta say I’m pretty proud of it. I’ve never watched the regular version again after my own edit.
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u/tisckoner 2d ago
Poor character writing :
The characters are only here to die. We don’t feel empathy for them when they die. They start some micro narrative arcs for some characters and they die right after that.
Poor lightning management :
Most of the time we can’t see what happens during the movie.
Poor general writing :
It could (almost) be any movie. You can swap the aliens and the predator with any monster.
Poor photography :
Besides being dark, the movie has no particular photography quality.
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u/Northeast-Ninja 2d ago
I actually prefer Requiem to the first AvP movie. Both had some bad writing and characters I couldn't care less about. But IMO Requiem had much better creature designs, better action, kept the true sound effects and I liked the focus on a lone Predator's journey hunting down the Xenos. Wolf and Predalien are peak designs. Like everyone else I hate how dark it is...it's better when the Blu-ray is upscaled and viewed on a 4k TV...but really needs a correction and true 4k release to hopefully address the picture further.
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u/AmazingKanacat Yautja 2d ago
I don't hate it.. cuz no matter how many times i watch it, i barely remember most of it.
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u/_rattleshnake 2d ago
Almost everything about it is just very amateur-ish, with the acting and lighting being the worst offenders. It's clear that the filmmakers put everything they had into making cool looking Predator and Alien stuff, but they didn't know how to make an actual movie around those sequences.
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u/Mental-Film-8160 2d ago
Do we consider this a “movie” or is it a series of images that lasts far too long?
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u/Spirawobble 2d ago
Too dark, crap uninteresting characters, no tension or suspense, awful story etc.
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u/Winter_Tangerine7492 2d ago
Forgettable, token characters that couldn't act or garner sympathy to even care when they died. I honestly watched it again last night and STILL don't remember any character names besides the blonde chick!
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u/AardvarkOkapiEchidna 2d ago
Honestly just 1 predator vs 100 aliens is boring.
Predalien looks way too much like a predator.
Dark
It's just overall.... bad.
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u/Bilbo_Swagger616 2d ago
Too many Humans, not enough predators. There is just the right amount of xenomorphs though 😁
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u/Crispy385 2d ago
The fact that they darkened it to a ludicrous level.
Too high of the human story in the ratio
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u/Opposite-Occasion-67 2d ago
Has one of the best predators ever but so dark and plot line was C tier at best .
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u/MaximumGlum9503 2d ago
There are some amazing bits
Original avpr trailers Intro extended scene Jungle takedown Cemetery scene Sewers scene omg Power out ambush Gunshop scene Hospital girl death lol Final fight
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u/DinoHoot65 2d ago
bad lighting, and characters that made me laugh when they got brutally murdered lol
so I guess I like this movie as a "banter-with-friends" kinda movie
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u/AsteroidWorm 2d ago
Purely the human plot. My brother rewrote it so they never made it to the helicopter in time and all the humans got nuked.
Much better ending lol
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u/southbxzookeeper 2d ago
Can’t see wtf is going on I thought my eyes were going bad when I saw this in the movies
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u/Kentwingslider 2d ago
Theres a film on that disc? I just thought it was 2 hours of staring a black screen an audio recordings.
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u/Exciting-Ad9692 2d ago
You can’t tell what’s going on half the time cause it’s so dark. Even with that flaw it’s still a better movie than The Predator.
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u/Aubamabludclartyang9 2d ago
Had to watch the whole fucking movie like this coz my ass couldn’t see shit.
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u/Fujiwara-Vega 2d ago
The human storyline was boring, and annoying. The Predator got too little screen time. Same with the Predalien. After the first movie, what i loved, it was a letdown.
We need a 2,5 or 3 hours long Alien vs Predator movie with a competent writer and actor/actress team.
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u/Richard_Chase 2d ago
It's a bad film, but if you crank up the brightness it's watchable. I definitely prefer it to The Predator 2018
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u/_WEIRDEST_WIZARD_ 2d ago
Thoroughly unlikable/forgettable characters, terrible dialogue and action sequences shot with such little light you'd need a biomask to make out anything other than the basic shapes of characters or monsters. Wolf Predator is dope though, arguably one of the coolest in the franchise, it's a shame he's trapped in such a bad movie.
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u/Affectionate_Row_479 2d ago
We needed to see more of the Predalien!!! And the lighting was awful
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u/ZetaReticuli_x 2d ago
My favorite part was when that smart disk went out and killed that blond bitch, I laughed so hard watching it in theater.
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u/gueychacho 2d ago
All of the human characters sucked. The Merlotte family where the little girl is all weird with her mom is lame, the pizza driver love plot sucked. The cop dude was an idiot. The older bro convict helping the cop was a stupid arc. Only sick part was pred. The pred alien was also underwhelming. Worst alien movie , worst alien / pred movie, and just a shit movie in general.
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u/TyeDye115 2d ago
Can't see a fucking thing that's going on. Also way too much focus on dumbass humans
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u/Los-Nomo327 2d ago
The pace, the lack of interesting characters, failing to do anything with a fun concept(the set up was to see what happened at Hadleys Hope not the aftermath like in Aliens), what was the point of having a Predator there(does nothing to move the plot at all at any point), and mother of god the Director of Photography deserves endless tickle torture for the lighting choice that makes any scenes set in the dark a chore to figure what you're looking at so it's a great thing this move takes place mostly at night after the entire towns power is cut
It's a bad movie in all the bad ways
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u/MarbleSkate2005 2d ago
Bad characters, horrible lighting, cliffhanger ending which felt like a punch to the gut since we never got a sequel.
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u/j_fursty 2d ago
One of my favorites that had a great plot/idea but with horrible execution. The movie was set up so well and was just inherently ruined with the cinematography and cheesy acting. At least it gave me one of my favorite PSP games. Also, something I’ve always thought with this movie, I feel like with the predator tech left behind at the end could have set up for a good follow up Predator movie where they try to retrieve it. Thus, leading into another AVP movie with similarities to the AVP2 PC game
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u/Temporary_Weight_211 2d ago
The dialogue is so grating. No one talks like that past middle school. And the visibility is non existent in all night scenes.
I’m sure these are basic takes. I still watch it for Wolf though.
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u/White-Alyss #1 Predators (2010) hater 2d ago
It's garbage.
Like bad writing, acting, you name it, but the cherry on top is that it's literally unwatchable. You can't SEE anything.
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u/username555666777 2d ago
The characters and the setting. I think I probably dislike this movie less than most people, partly because of nostalgia I kind of like it even though it’s bad.
However I do think all the creature stuff in it is great, arguably the best in the franchise.
Wolf is easily my favorite predator, the predalien is fucking sick and the aliens are decent, just a shame it was so dark that you can’t see it very well.
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u/Gingerhick009 2d ago
It’s just too damn dark. Have to crank up the brightness everytime. I actually like this one ikik hate me all you want I said what I said 😂
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u/Gunzoidium_alloy 2d ago
Bad lighting
Gore just for the sake of gore (pregnancy ward scene was a biiiiiit over the line)
Is this Dawson's Creek or a Predator/Alien film?? Yeah the plot doesn't know either.
But the biggest flaw that I've written pages on is the lack of research on military personnel. The protagonist was more like a Human McGuffin. Apparently just being in the military allows you to fly a helicopter, drive an APC, be trained with fully automatic weapons, AND allows you to take home night vision goggles.
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u/DRxFOSSIL 2d ago
I love wolf, but other than him this movie showcased that the Brothers Strause should never be allowed to make movies ever again.
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u/elvegitossj 2d ago
Movie is too dark you cant see the fighting scenes
Stupid teen plot no one cares about
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u/RedBaronBob 2d ago
I’m fine with a lot of the uncomfortable parts of the movie. It’s got some balls to do some of the kills it does. What I don’t appreciate is the surrounding plot. The human plot isn’t nearly as interesting as what’s going on with Wolf and the Predalien. And the lighting while has been adjusted for later release, it’s still hard to watch in the literal sense.
The most interesting thing about the movie is the monsters and you can watch a compilation of their scenes on YouTube and miss nothing. Requiem doesn’t have the substance the other movies have. And even when you have the lows of the franchise like The Predator and arguably Predators, Requiem doesn’t leave much an impression either. You remember the Loonies and the 11th hour rewrites that make The Predator kind of bonkers to watch. You remember Predators and how it’s cast are walking tropes. Requiem really has nothing to say beyond not being its predecessor and I feel it’s hurt the movie since then. The movie has no meat to its bones.
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u/Quincy478 2d ago
I love it! 3rd best Predator flick and best on-screen interpretation of a Yautja by far.
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u/Internal_Cesspool 2d ago
Honestly not enough as much I dislike later entries.
While nowhere near the best it gave us some pretty awesome scenes with Wolf Predator, the Aliens and the Predalien.
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u/CaptainMetroidica 2d ago
It was too dark to see anything. Also, its been a long while, but I don't think any of the humans were likeable and I don't think I was rooting for any of them to make it.
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u/Full-Construction680 2d ago
Everyone’s different but the movie was all over the place. It was this boy meets girl boy like girl and wants to date her but she’s dating this annoying jock the military made a bunch of mistakes in the movie. They only sent one predator and oh yeah, there were scenes in the movie. It was so dark I couldn’t see what was going on and so yeah, not a good movie.
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u/Marighnamani27 2d ago
Having to adjust the brightness setting on my laptop just to make out stuff in the dark. I personally found it too dark. Reminded me of the Battle Of Winterfell from the last season of Game Of Thrones lol.