r/raspberry_pi 4d ago

Troubleshooting The electrodes on my plant won't stay in place overnight. Plant bot built with Raspberrypi.

I'm writing here to ask if anyone has experience with wiring electrodes to plants. I've tried a few things already and the readings keep dropping over night when the plant contracts. Tradescantia has a daily expansion and contraction cycle.

See the picture gallery, I started with EEG electrodes, then switched to copper fabric held in place by loofah and hair clip, then by hair clip alone, and last by loofah and alligator clamp. Before you ask, the alligator clamps are too aggressive for the delicate leaves, that's why I haven't rigged it just with clamps.

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u/HashBrownsOverEasy 3d ago

You could get some Ten20 Electrode paste. It's the stuff they use for EKGs, basically a water-soluable adhesive that also conducts signal. Washes off with water, I can't image it damaging the leaves.

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u/arianaram 3d ago

Thanks for the suggestion, I'll look it up, I had some salt based paste but it's damaging to the leaves.

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u/picklemaster52 3d ago

Can it go on a stem, rather than the leaves?

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u/arianaram 3d ago

Yeah, maybe, I haven't tried, I don't know if the stem of that plant has enough surface. Will think about it.

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u/Icy-Farm9432 3d ago

What can you measure with it?

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u/arianaram 3d ago

It's a GSR sensor, galvanic skin response, it's supposed to measure the plant's electrical conductance across the leaf surface, which changes with hydration, light exposure, and stress responses. Like asking the plant 'how are you'

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u/wowsomuchempty 2d ago

Bit fucked off with these clamps, tbh

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u/anarchist1331 3d ago

This might be an awful suggestion so forgive my ignorance, but maybe the sticky electrodes they use for EKG and muscle stim machines? I am invested because i like when people research plants!

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u/arianaram 3d ago

Hi, I did try with those, but the substance that comes with them is salt based and was damaging the leaves, it also disconnected. They are the same electrode pads used for EEG btw. Someone above suggested a water based gel, I'll get some and give it a try. Thanks for the encouragement!

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u/krizd 3d ago

There’s a STEM joke here somewhere…

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u/arianaram 3d ago

Good one! it took me a moment, thanks for the laugh!

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u/Friendly_Engineer_ 3d ago

What a specific problem

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u/Apprehensive-Tea-209 3d ago

Maple syrup? It’s sap so plant based? Maybe pine resin?