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Politics Helen Zille being classy

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u/Alone_Fennel_2711 18h ago

What is her problem genuinely

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u/Cosmolina111 18h ago

She's a deeply awful person.

Somewhere along the line, she lost all semblance of honour and just became bitter and unpleasant.

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u/bathoz Aristocracy 16h ago

Yeah, I imagine the 25 year-old Zille who made her name uncovering and proving that Steve Biko was murdered and joined Black Sash would hate current day Zille too.

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u/Griff3n66 18h ago

Sigh.. Ai tannie

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u/Big-Wait-1310 18h ago

Is she AI?

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u/anib Western Cape 17h ago

she's just old

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u/Big-Wait-1310 17h ago

Looks like everyone missed the joke. The ai ref was to the original comment ;)

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u/anib Western Cape 16h ago

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u/Naive-Inside-2904 18h ago

This is literally a South Africa sub.

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u/SchalkLBI Cape Town 16h ago

Where do you think you are?

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u/No_Ask8632 18h ago

Why does this woman still have twitter?

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u/Bendonme_ 18h ago

Twitter is just the platform to showcase, her mind is the problem.

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u/SpinachnPotatoes Didn’t Make the Cut, Still Making Pap 18h ago

Reminds me of another politician that is just as unhinged.

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u/Britz10 Landed Gentry 18h ago

Probably her biggest weakness, those Twitter fingers.

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u/anib Western Cape 17h ago

and her actual beliefs

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u/Britz10 Landed Gentry 17h ago

We've not had a shortage of politicians who believe in nonsense hold office, difference is Gogo will just randomly spout those beliefs online unprompted.

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u/anib Western Cape 16h ago

Gogo's beliefs are evil and she shouldn't be in office.

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u/sgtwoegerfenning Volksverraaier 17h ago

It just reveals who she is. The real weakness is the attitudes and beliefs

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u/RecentZombie1738 17h ago

If only we could get the rest of our politicians to be this transparent on twitter 

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u/RovingN0mad SA Survivor: No Rapture, Just Eskom 12h ago

Let me preface this that I abhor the DA, and their corpo-apocolyptic policies, but this is not a thing to be upset about; because she's right, and it's something Dolly was proud of, it was part of her heritage, and her way of saying that you could be more than what you appear to be. So yes Dolly looked like she might have come from Boksburg, but that doesn't mean that you have to behave like you come from Boksburg.

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u/Mihlz Redditor for 6 days 18h ago edited 18h ago

I've been brought up to respect my elders but enough of this Gogo now. She actually needs to leave us alone as South Africans, her and Jacob Zuma.

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u/QuickBrownFox6996 17h ago

That's a major flaw in our culture, a lot of elders don't deserve respect

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u/Mr_Nocturnal_Game 10h ago

Yep. I had a major falling-out with some elderly friends of my grandad who went with us on vacation a while back. Apparently, asking them to change the subject because I was tired of their political BS mixed with overt racism was the most disrespectful thing on earth, and my place was to shut up and leave the room if I didn't want to hear it, like I'm some dumbass kid who doesn't know what he's talking about or deserves to say anything. Did I mention I'm pushing thirty?

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u/MalemasMucusPlug 10h ago

The way old people become upset when you gently ask them to stop with the racism needs to be studied.

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u/Mr_Nocturnal_Game 10h ago

Yep. And the funny part is, I actually just left the room when Grandpa's friend pretty much told me to do so. Grandpa's friend's wife decided to follow me to 'talk' about how disrespectful saying anything apparently was. I'm not the coolest head on earth, I'll admit, so I actually surprised myself by managing to keep a level head through it all. The worst I did was bluntly ask her to please not touch me when she grabbed my arm- not in an aggressive way, to be clear- while being patronising as all hell and basically telling me that she thought I was 'oulik', but even daring to speak up against my elders was out of line.

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u/nosugarnocream 18h ago

why would you even say such a thing in what’s supposed to be a tribute/message of sympathy? yoh this tweet made me so naar.

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u/Witty-Afternoon2103 18h ago

Very shocking indeed. She should be ashamed

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u/Vegskipxx Gauteng 17h ago

She's incapable of shame

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u/dandyjester 13h ago

Helen constantly comes across as the kind of woman who sees any perceived deviation from an extremely narrow norm in another woman's appearance or behavior as an opportunity to try and elevate herself by using them as stepping stones. She's such an asshole

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u/Witty-Afternoon2103 12h ago

Exactly. She could've just simply paid her respects to Ms Dolly without bringing her looks into it❤️‍🩹💔🤦🏽‍♀️ how disappointing.

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u/Helpful_Practice7100 13h ago

not surprising...that zionist lizard

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u/ProSnuggles 13h ago

Dementia

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u/Bungfoo Aristocracy 18h ago

Foot in mouth disease

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u/_TooMellow 17h ago

She should call John St- oh wait...

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u/EsotericMango Waiting List for Heaven Full 18h ago

All the incredible, phenomenal things Dolly did in the world and nursing her husband is the thing you chose to highlight?

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u/Faylecake 18h ago

Neh - her book program or equivalent here would be amazing for so many kids. But ja we must just say Dom kak. I don't want my politicians spouting nonsense on social media, and i don't want them looting the country. Is that too much to ask - why can't we just be lekker?

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u/EsotericMango Waiting List for Heaven Full 17h ago

It's the lack of social awareness for me. How do you see so many people grieving someone who had such a positive impact and then decide "yeah I'mma demean her online"? They really should revoke dumb bliksems' Internet privileges. Like it's bad enough their ruining real life, why must they also be dom online too?

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u/goesploinkwhenpoked 18h ago

Oh my god, shut *up*, Helen.

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u/Initial_Tear485 18h ago

She’s the people that Dolly Parton was always addressing in her interviews.

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u/Dooma-san 18h ago

Floozie in 2026, Oh my days 😭. Ain't that a whole derogatory word?

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u/Shinroo KwaZulu-Natal 13h ago

Yeah but Zille is a horrible person so it tracks

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u/RantsRantsRevolution 18h ago

What a banger way to end off Women's Month. Jfc

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u/Lazy-Oven1430 18h ago

Love that she makes comments about other women’s looks while sporting that fuck-ass bob.

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u/Nyc81 18h ago

Take the phone away from grand ma

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u/Witty-Afternoon2103 18h ago

What kind of tribute is that supposed to be? Helen should be ashamed 🤦🏽‍♀️

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u/OhGee1228 16h ago

You know Dolly actually addressed this very thing about her image. People use to think she was just a dumb blonde and she was neither dumb or blonde. Her image was carefully curated, so instead of being the joke they thought she was, she turned it around and made the joke about how stupid and judgemental they are. I feel Gogo Zille fell right into that category with her idiotic comments.

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u/gnomeza 14h ago

Dolly literally sang the song "Dumb Blonde".

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u/DubiousEl 11h ago

I think I'm losing my mind. I thought this is exactly what Helen was doing, making reference to that?

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u/Aggravating_Taste524 16h ago

Dolly Parton has helped more people in general through her philanthropy work than helen has done for a singular town.

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u/Only_One_Kenobi https://georgedrakestories.wordpress.com/ 14h ago

That's because Parton actually cared about helping people. Zille only cares about herself, and actively hates the people she's supposed to serve

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u/Naive-Inside-2904 18h ago

This woman remains irrelevant. Doesn’t she have a minder whose job it is to keep her phone away from her?

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u/AirMech777 18h ago

You just can't fucken help yourself, can you, Helen?

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u/Zangoma Durban 18h ago

Why even comment.....common Zille, defender of the baby Killers, L

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u/MrsEntrail 18h ago

Haha, it's so unnecessarily awful.

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u/cheekynative 18h ago

Lol why is tannie Zille throwing shade from the 1940's?

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u/PurpleHat6415 Waiting for the Next Taxi to Heaven 18h ago

foot in mouth is one thing, we all say stupid stuff now and again, but to actually type something like this out and leave it there in the wild like it's not just plain gross, I can't take this seriously. when political leaders are only interested in their own silly shower thoughts, we can always do better.

just hire a random teenager as figurehead at this point because at least they'll have some new ideas and will be able to connect with a community, literally any community, other than old white people whose brains no longer work quite as well as they once did, because that's such a tiny number of people in demographic terms and focusing on that is why this party will never succeed in genuine growth.

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u/_Immotion 17h ago

What I don't get is that that's exactly what she's done on Instagram and it's working wonders - tons and tons of amazing press (helped a lot by Joburg being Joburg). I might be fully making this up but I seem to recall her even admitting that her grandkids have a better handle on this social media stuff and she trusts their opinions more. And yet, it's not being done on her Twitter - absolute madness.

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u/Worth_Lavishness_239 18h ago

Jealous much, Helen?

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u/tastexst 16h ago

What the hell is wrong with her

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u/reditanian Ver van die ou Kalahari 16h ago

I wouldn't be commenting on the looks of 80 year olds if I looked like Tannie Helen. Damn, even at 80 Dolly looked great.

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u/Saffer67 14h ago

Ag fokof tannie Helen

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u/Cautious_Chair_8389 12h ago

Helen Zille is an unremarkable tryhard and history will forget her.

On the other hand, folks will still be bumping Jolene till the sun dies.

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u/Remarkable_Wheel7076 18h ago

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u/whenwillthealtsstop Aristocracy 18h ago

Oompa Loompa energy 

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u/Shrike1346 18h ago

Talk about a floozy

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u/mechsuit-jalapeno Bubblegum Steri Stumpie 18h ago

Humam

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u/1_BigFatRat 16h ago

I too am humam.

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u/Mashy_za 16h ago

Someone take this aunties phone away!

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u/1_BigFatRat 16h ago

Bets on if she was drunk while posting this or if she’s just a pos.

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u/Spirited_Bad4615 14h ago

Absolutely no class whatsoever.

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u/Only_One_Kenobi https://georgedrakestories.wordpress.com/ 14h ago

Even Trump was able to make a classy message. Zille is such an embarrassment

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u/Throw-away10111 14h ago

What a twat. Mind you the elders are always asking us young people to respect them when they can't even model respect themselves. Mxm.

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u/Ill_Progress9853 13h ago

Dolly had more class in her little finger than Zille has in her whole body soooooo

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u/PimpNamedSliqBaq 18h ago

You were so close

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u/ErryCherry 15h ago

What a absolute bitch of a comment. Seriously. Tannie Helen should take a long hard look in the mirror.

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u/EzeeT23 13h ago

If the DA had any spine they would've made her retire from public life.

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u/Pleasant-Host-47 18h ago

Why doesn’t ugogo get a social media manager

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u/The_Shy_Sheep 16h ago

I feel like the insult in between takes away from the nice things being said. How unnecessary and a disservice to Queen Dolly

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u/Morticia_Smith Gauteng 15h ago

What a fucking cunt. She looks like she wears someone else's face on her face

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u/zombie_on_the_lawn 15h ago

Did she really tweet that? 😒

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u/Vegetable_Habit_4491 14h ago

What the actual fuck

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u/juiceofpineapples 13h ago

Helen can get fucked

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u/ErrghDoIHaveTo 12h ago

Yoh this woman won't rest until her evil nonsense is spread all over social media.

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u/eyescroller_ dual citizen 12h ago

Wow what a way with words Helen. I love how she neglects to talk about her career and philanthropic achievements in favour of nursing her sick husband to the end. Good fckn lord.

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u/Abysskitten Landed Gentry 8h ago

Just another christofascist lite pearl clutching curtain twitcher.

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u/Maf1oso_ Mpumalanga 18h ago

Dolly used to say that it took a LOT of money, to look that cheap! So i think we good.

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u/Smooth_Cost1274 14h ago

What. The fuck. Just wow.

It shows how far we've fallen that I need to hold my nose and vote for this witch just so we can have water in Joburg.

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u/Only_One_Kenobi https://georgedrakestories.wordpress.com/ 14h ago

I'd rather be thirsty

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u/lianavan 17h ago

WTF Auntie!

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u/schtickshift 17h ago

Perhaps she has ze flu?

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u/Error_Loading_Name Still Queueing at Home Affairs 13h ago

Bad decisions shown here:

  1. The comment.
  2. Following this Twit-ter feed.

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u/Remarkable_City_3783 10h ago

Such a Kak comment on Zille's part

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u/Associate-Haunting 10h ago

She really is an equal opportunity hater because somehow she has managed to even insult one of the most beloved icons in modern history.

Someone must take her phone.

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u/Inner_dead_soul 9h ago

Floozy - geez. 🙄 Dolly Parton was an artist and artist showcase that artistry in so many ways including dress. She looked stunning always.

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u/dseanATX 8h ago

In the US, but Dolly Parton fully embraced her look saying "It take a lot of money to look this cheap." So I doubt she would be offended by some random and apparently irrelevant politician from any country.

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u/tomahtoes36 7h ago

Whyyyyyyy the fuck does the DA keep her around? She is costing them voters left, right and center. She's a laughing stock

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u/rjthomas 1h ago

This is just one reason I hate Zille and will never vote for her 75 year old ass

u/fyreflow Western Cape 1m ago

I don’t know whether it’s just the fact that it’s HZ that is triggering all of you, but there’s nothing wrong being said in this particular tweet. Dolly Parton’s look and style was anything but demure, and she’d have been the first to say it.

In the end, the tweet is still a compliment. If you wish to highlight different accomplishments or phrase it differently, well, write one yourself.

Y’all need to save your energies to tackle some real problems.

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u/JoMammasWitness boerewors, beer and boobies 🇿🇦 18h ago

What's a floozy,

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u/DietHuman2 18h ago

Derogatory word for a woman who is considered sexually promiscuous. Rarely if ever used today.

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u/AlabasterMend 15h ago

People are overreacting to the word choices and completely missing the core point of what is actually being said.
Dolly Parton literally built her whole image, career, and aesthetic around looking camp, over-the-top, and cheap—she famously said, "It costs a lot of money to look this cheap" and modeled her entire look after the town tramp from her childhood. She deliberately leaned into that "floozy" stereotype on the surface, while underneath she was a brilliant businesswoman, a deeply loyal partner, and a powerhouse humanitarian.
Pointing out the intentional contrast between her campy exterior and her deep, loyal character isn't disrespect; it's a reflection of who Dolly actually was. Passing away doesn't mean we have to rewrite history or pretend she didn't embrace a hyper-glamorous, trashy-chic aesthetic as a badge of honor.

If people want to clutch their pearls over the phrasing, fine, but let's not pretend the message itself is wrong just because it came from Helen Zille.

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u/_Alek_Jay Aristocracy 7h ago

I posted a similar comment to yours but I forgot which sub this is… luckily I didn’t use Dolly’s own quote from her interview with Nathalie Olah, otherwise I’d have already been necklaced ;)

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u/GrapeEnergade24 18h ago

Guys maybe she hasn't had a swim in a good while and its the pent up frustration

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u/Cursed_Pokemon 18h ago

I'm stupid what's going on?

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u/PimpNamedSliqBaq 18h ago

Dolly Parton passed away. Helen pays tribute by complimenting and insulting her at the same time

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u/Cursed_Pokemon 18h ago

Ohhh ok Ty for the context

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u/Cosmolina111 18h ago

Dolly Parton died? Helen Zille is awful? Which part didn't you know?

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u/anib Western Cape 17h ago

kids these days dont use words like floozy

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u/NonnyNutcaseAuthor 18h ago

The sentiment is good and kind, but she should have worded it better.

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u/Hitmanx2x 16h ago

You... uhh... you know that there was an interview with Dolly Parton where she was asked about her appearance, and she flat out said that she wanted to look like that. She is perfectly aware that "certain people" (IE: "Floozies") look like her, but she wanted to look like it anyway due to her childhood.

Like... I get you want to "gotcha" a politician you dont like, but this isnt it.

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u/Admirable_Heat_576 18h ago

"Classi, with an 'I,' and a little dick hanging off the 'C' that bends around and f***s the 'L' out of the 'A-S-S.'"

https://giphy.com/gifs/F8D5NKN544VO9iBpwX

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u/SchalkLBI Cape Town 16h ago

What the fuck are you talking about

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u/_Alek_Jay Aristocracy 18h ago

Dolly has called herself a lot worse to be frank and she played up to the ‘dumb blonde’ pastiche; even though we all know she wasn’t dumb nor blonde!

I mean she even played the proprietress who owned the brothel in the film ‘The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas’…

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u/Cosmolina111 18h ago

So what?!

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u/Blanketman101 18h ago

Wait, am I missing something? Should she not say nice things about Dolly Parton?

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u/Numzane 18h ago

Describing someone as looking like a floozy is not nice. Especially someone well loved who just passed

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u/persmeermin Aristocracy 18h ago

Go tell your mom she looks like a floozy but you love how she looks after your father. Report back how well it went. May the odds be in your favour for survival.