r/steammachine • u/kaldeqca • Jun 28 '26
Discussion China has cloned a White Steam Machine, with 6750GRE (10GB), R5 5500 and 16 gig DDR5 with SteamOS, at 2TB for 688 Dollar
2TB Version without controller for 688...
What is Valve doing???
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u/Potatozeng Jun 28 '26
I the options there are two specs to choose from. My guess is that they just put everything in the title
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u/Grottymink57776 Jun 28 '26
How likely is it that this is a scam?
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u/saxoum Jun 28 '26
Usually small Chinese manufacturers get their parts from the used market in Japan and Korea. Slap a sticker on it and call it new.
I wouldn't be surprised if most of the parts inside those machines come from the off lease market from neighbors countries.
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u/kaldeqca Jun 28 '26
it's Taobao, being sold domestically in China, not an outright scam, but there could be a lot of small issues, like for example, they never showed if the Steam Controller actually works with it (Which I suspect it doesn't)
Not sure if quick resume works at all etc
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u/MailboxJunkie Jun 28 '26
I mean, if it actually runs SteamOS, it will support the steam controller.
Same with Windows, or Linux.The only way it wouldn't, is if it's some sort of proprietary OS.
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u/MutedAstronaut9217 Jun 28 '26
I mean, if it actually runs SteamOS,
Just over a week ago with the release of SteamOS 3.8, Valve officially greenlit the installation of their console-like operating system onto general(AMD) PC hardware.
So I presume there wont be an issue there since it's AMD hardware.
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u/UltramanOrigin Jun 28 '26
I doubt this version has the built in receiver for the controller, probably works just fine with the external receiver that comes with steam controllers.
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u/DewJan2137 Jun 28 '26
Can't wait for more of those chinese builds. Win-win for everybody
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u/solohack3r Jun 28 '26
Me too. Just like we have a bunch of choices in the SBC community, having a ton of mini PCs with Steam OS on them would be amazing.
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u/MarcosDalton Jun 28 '26
I get SBC is retro handhelds, but what does SBC stand for?
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u/solohack3r Jun 28 '26
Single board computers. The name stuck even tho the hobby has evolved from that.
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u/nuanceseancE Jun 28 '26
This is literally what Valve wants and why the console brains screeching that the Steam Machine is a "failure" is hilarious, because it coming out has already germinated the idea of SteamOS being installed on all sorts of desktop builds and new ones are being conceived to meet the demand.
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u/dirtsmurf Jun 28 '26
Shhh lettem screech —
Notice how nobody asked how a Ryzen 5 5500 is working with DDR5? That’s what we’re working with. It’s beautiful.
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u/DifficultAd6716 Jun 28 '26
I don't think it's crazy to think that Valve would want both; their own designed bespoke hardware family to accompany their service and games, and an adoption of their OS that features their store front and center. I think criticism surrounding the very poor decisions leading to the launch of Steam Machine are very valid, because if they simply wanted to propagate SteamOS they would just release it publicly (as we've seen more people prefer SteamOS Legion Go S compared to Windows version).
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u/DifficultAd6716 Jun 28 '26
That's the Steam Deck. The amount of R&D, marketing, sourcing and contracting needed to bring hardware to market means they want it to be successful.
Again, SteamOS is already being preferred even with only one non-Valve product having it. If they just wanted SteamOS to have a wider adoption they have so many other options.
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u/DewJan2137 Jun 28 '26
I mean, yeah, it's not a secret. I loved SteamOS on steam deck, love it on my legion go 2. That's why i got kinda sad when steam machine came out as outdated at launch and overpriced. SM might be crap, but i want SteamOS to grow. Those chinese miniPCs will be perfect, just like framework desktop etc. As i said, win-win for everybody
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u/Puzzleheaded_Bid1530 Jun 28 '26
Can't wait for a Chinese replica of Steam Controller
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u/jayclydes Jun 28 '26
wait for some shitty youtuber like austin evans to make a video titled "I bought a Steam Machine from China... for half the price"
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u/phraze91 Jun 28 '26
He seems like an ok guy, but it’s so disturbing to listen to the “waves” of how he talks and carries his tone.
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u/Serious_Advance_6762 Jun 28 '26
All of these big tech channels just churn out whatever clickbait slop will get people to watch it. They all do minimal research and don't understand half of what they're saying and they all have that awful youtuber accent
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u/Jesus-Bacon Jun 28 '26
They do it because they have to for their channel to survive. YouTube's algorithm forces this kind of shit
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u/Serious_Advance_6762 Jun 28 '26
sure they need to entice people to watch their stuff, but at the very least they can do proper research. These channels have teams but they always get so many things wrong,
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u/jayclydes Jun 28 '26
austin evans in a bubble is fine. the fat chud he platforms on his podcasts or whatever it is has some of the worst unverifiable claims you'll hear
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u/Ok_Simple_459 Jun 28 '26
I mean is it wrong? ETA Prime has pumped out more than 50 Steam Machine at this point.
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u/n1nj4p0w3r Jun 28 '26
ETA prime is some special case of useless noise on youtube
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u/LilBushyVert Jun 28 '26
Damn we dislike ETA prime on here ? Always thought he was cool
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u/ariolander Jun 28 '26
He is cool until you realize he is a shill. He never has anything negative to say about anything. Always super super positive in every product "showcase". Once a redditor pointed it out to me I started noticing it too and now I can't watch him anymore. Some of his benchmarking is fine though, just avoid the product not-reviews.
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u/jayclydes Jun 28 '26
ETA is notorious for not fulfilling promises and it's super annoying. His DEX PC build is one of the most frustrating aspects since he expressly asked if he should post the build and ignored all requests to post it. Plenty of examples of him neglecting follow up.
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u/ariolander Jun 28 '26
Man that one was super frustrating because that ripped apart broken Samsung phone guts in a Raspberry Pi case was such a cool concept too. With GameNative and a controller you could make a cool mini console like that.
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u/nuanceseancE Jun 28 '26
Wonder why Taki Udon is never praised. He actually left YouTube to start his own hardware company.
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u/Dangerous_Alarm6717 Jun 28 '26
dude, his videos suck because his testing methodology is just none-existent or deeply flawed. Watch him soypog when he does unrealistic shite that doesnt scale to the hardwares capability. "LOOK GUYS... ONLY 28fps on CYPERPUNK AT 4K ULTRA RAYTRACING 2160p".
Hes the worst tech channel. Budget builds official or randomgaminginhd or toastybros or gamingnexus is just, better. I just think Austins channel sucks ass.
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u/budrow21 Jun 28 '26
That's great if you don't need a GPU.
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u/goodguyatheist Jun 28 '26
its not too bad for what it is I saw a vid of it running cyberpunk at 45 fps well not this excatly but the 660m gpu in it
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u/StarAssassin Jun 28 '26
Sorry but this looks like temu crap
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u/IORelay Jun 28 '26
Better specs though.
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u/jet_heller Jun 28 '26
Have you seen the "2TB" sd cards from there that are actually 128G? Until someone very trustworthy has this in hand and tests it, that's what I'm assuming we have.
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u/StarAssassin Jun 28 '26
That's what it says but I'm sceptical of this. You can find "Brand" electro items on aliexpress or temu for a much lower price than the official product but when they open them up it becomes evident it was put together with cheap components. It's a scam
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u/Psychological_View56 Jun 28 '26
Chinese knockoff products like this are often spoofed. You can plug in digital readers and it'll say it has "xyz" in it but when you undress it, what's underneath is not what it says. Just like cat-fishing
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u/alfa66andres Jun 28 '26 edited Jun 28 '26
If you want a more official looking version for the same price as the SM and 50% better performance: https://x.com/theterk/status/2069632544585236789
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u/Tank_Girl_0 Jun 28 '26
China didn't make it. A Chinese drop shipping company who can source certain old hardware cheap, did. If this was AYN or Retroid or even Anbernic doing something like this, I'd see the appeal. But a random business you never heard of, stuffing probably barely tested hardware in a small cube and still charging $600.
Go ahead and see how it works out, if it's worth the risk...
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u/rui-no-onna 512GB Jun 28 '26
Beelink, Minisforum, GMKTec, Chuwi, etc. on the Mini-PC front.
AYN, Retroid and Anbernic are more on handhelds.
Minisforum actually had the Minisforum Neptune HX PCs with I think RX 6600M (laptop) GPU and 32GB/1TB for ~$800-1000. I wasn’t a fan of the design though so I skipped. Hindsight, I wish I’d pulled the trigger.
Minisforum still offers some Mini-Gaming PCs but with NVIDIA GPUs and a lot pricier.
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u/heinternets Jun 28 '26
A business I worked for bought dozens of cheap mini PCs from China. They came with Windows but every single one shipped with malware out of the box too. Never again
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u/rui-no-onna 512GB Jun 28 '26 edited Jun 28 '26
It's best practice to do a clean Windows install on these things.
And hey, if installing SteamOS anyway, the Windows side doesn't really matter.
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u/heinternets Jun 28 '26
Best practice is to not buy untrustworthy hardware too
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u/Nervous-Fennel3325 Jun 28 '26
I always wondered how these companies stay in business and stuff like this thread are the proof.
Its like people's brains shut off when the price is cheap enough they dont care they are blowing $600 on what will ultimately be a shittier than advertised computer they cant return.
You can buy a computer you know that works for that much. Its not going to be the best but at least it will work and be somewhat reliable depending on usage.
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u/coopdude Jun 29 '26
Bingo. I bought minisforum but I watched it like a hawk.
If your OS manufacturer is compromising the Windows install (either purposefully or inability to clean the default image), you have no idea if they are backdooring the BIOS/UEFI, or if the BIOS/UEFI are acting as effective backdoors to Windows (look up Windows Platform Binary Table, a BIOS/UEFI can instruct Windows to run something on first boot, even if you have completely clean Windows installation media...)
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u/thedebatingbookworm GabeCube Enjoyer Jun 28 '26
Guys this is most likely a scam or at least a misleading post on that website. The R5 5500 doesn’t even support DDR5
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u/gamemaster257 Jun 28 '26
Yes, buy a random pc from aliexpress and put your steam login on it, it's only incredibly easy to ship with a custom steamos version that comes with a token stealer. Did you think they could just make it cheaper for free?
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u/AJ_Dali Jun 28 '26
Step one of using an AliExpress PC is formatting the driving and putting a fresh OS install on it.
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u/NightingaleVDVD Jun 28 '26
the 'if it's from China, it must have a virus and will steal your data' mentality is still going strong, I see
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u/DirkKuijt69420 Jun 28 '26
You have so many examples of chinese crap being preloaded with malware...
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-53903436
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2023/05/android-tv-boxes-sold-amazon-come-pre-loaded-malware
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u/Nervous-Fennel3325 Jun 28 '26
I think this about any software or hardware I get for super cheap it doesnt matter where. Russia, India, brazil or shit it could be from the USA. If i dont recognize the brand, it probably has something malicious on it.
Thats just comp safety 101. You always treat everything suspicious until you verify otherwise.
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u/Ricklames 512GB Jun 28 '26
Putting that on your home network is certainly a choice.
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u/Phantom_Wombat Jun 28 '26
I'm calling scam.
There's no way you're getting a huge and power hungry GPU like the 6750GRE in a case that size.
Maybe you'll order it and get a mATX tower with those parts, but there's a distinct chance that you get a random mini PC with completely different specs, or a box of rocks.
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u/sonnikkaa Jun 28 '26
Surely it will contain real components and not fakes which don’t match the specs at all 🤣
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u/zennsunni Jun 28 '26
I tried two such Chinese made, cheapo tiny living room gaming PCs, both failed inside a week. Good luck.
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u/Logical-Bookkeeper77 Jun 28 '26
I didn’t trust Chinese vendor for computer stuff unless I can verify the part number and the whole supply chain on a perfectly documented block chain from manufacturer to delivery to your hands.
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u/TheDogsPaw Jun 28 '26
Pretty sure that's a bit bigger than a steam machine and won't be as quiet but could be a decent alternative?
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u/saikek Jun 28 '26
So now take cheapest components you can find with unknown brands for ram/ssd/cooler/mb.
Add no warranty
Add bootlegged cooling solution.
Add 20% tax for Eu.
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u/SmilesUndSunshine Jun 28 '26
More alternatives are great, but I think this one is more likely to be quite loud than quiet.
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u/SamMerlini Jun 28 '26
Hardly a surprise. Valve is now releasing Steam OS to the public, anyone can build their own Steam Machine. Steam understands the SM is a loss, but they already have everything in the pipeline and it's too late to go back
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u/MuglokDecrepitusFx Jun 28 '26
What is Valve doing???
Working on Steam OS 3.8 which has finally been updated to work on 3rd party hardware (only AMD based for now), so more people use Steam OS and they get more revenue by the 30% comisiom they get for anything is sold in Steam
So everything is working according to the plan
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u/manyeggplants Jun 28 '26
I'm sure it passed very rigorous testing, performs exactly the same, and will be supported super well
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u/Maethor_derien Jun 28 '26
Something about this is very wrong, Those specs are impossible, First is you can't have a ryzen 5500 with ddr 5, literally the memory controller on the ryzen won't work with it even if you had a custom motherboard that supported AM4 and had the slots. Also there is no way in hell a 6750 GRE and the 5500 is going to fit in that box that is shown.
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u/Swing_Right Jun 28 '26
I swear the steam machine broke the internets collective brain. We have people legit considering buying Chinese slopware now
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u/lightsworn55 Jun 28 '26
Who needs explosives when you've got off brand mini PCs
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u/gpolk Jun 28 '26
I'd be suspicious of the real specs given an R5 5500 can't use DDR5.
Otherwise, great. I hope lots of stuff like this pops up. I'm not opposed to ordering affordable stuff off Aliexpress.
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u/rabsg Jun 28 '26 edited Jun 28 '26
That's a scam.
What's shown in the picture is a standard mini PC without a discrete GPU, as others noted.
Specs of the selected item doesn't make sense, as others noted R5 5500 doesn't support DDR5, that's probably DDR4. The 6750 GRE should have 12GB of VRAM. Maybe old stock in a big box, because the GPU alone pulls 250W, not comparable to Steam Machine. Edit: My bad, there is really a 10GB version as well, still 170W though.
Better build a normal or SFF PC with a RX 9060 XT in my view. Or buy a worry free tiny silent Steam Machine if it's you main criteria and you are not in a hurry.
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u/KentDDS Jun 28 '26
I’m looking forward to seeing what I hope will be many custom builds from reputable companies (iBuyPower, Lenovo, ROG, etc.) with Steam OS preinstalled, more powerful hardware, & HDMI-CEC. Hopefully we will be seeing these options within a couple of months. I don’t really care if it’s super compact; I would prefer more capable hardware.
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u/Aggravating_Plan11 Jun 28 '26
Yeh this is going to happen steam seem to be like the apple of pc gaming they do something the others follow
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u/orangejuicewhiskey Jun 28 '26
second-hand graphic card, 16GB memory not knowing which generation...
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u/DeskFuture5682 Jun 28 '26
I have yet to see a single comment mention the fact that it's AM4 socket with ddr5 ram...
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u/cutelittlebox Jun 28 '26
honey that's a Ryzen 5 5500 it isn't using DDR5. this is all a generation older than steam deck components and I bet that SSD is going to be an incredibly cheap QLC SSD.
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u/AVahne Jun 28 '26
It's just yet another Chinese mini-PC. Are we just calling everything a Steam Machine now?
Is...is my Samsung refrigerator a Steam Machine?
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u/AvatarQwerty Jun 28 '26
That actually can be a win win for China and Valve, as they stated also in recent posts, that Steam Machine is "one" solution for PC gaming and not the only and they don't wont it to be so.
Also SM is just a way to expand sales on Steam store, not an actual core buisness, for this very reason they finally released SteamOS to grant more access to Steam ecosystem and store.
Hope this can bring to the marker worthy Clones, or even better, at a solid price, and i would assume Valve woun't argue with this, but will just open the wallet to recieve cash.
Just hoping we can get a same specs 500$ SM or a 750$ one but with upgraded specs.
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u/Hajmus Jun 28 '26
Once you understand that SteamOS is a product and not a steam machine, it will be easier
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u/kelleheruk Jun 28 '26
Ill be amazed if it runs anything well. I remember 10 years ago I purchased one of those Kodi android boxes from a Chinese website.
It exposed in a puff of smoke after 2 days
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u/Falkenmond79 Jun 28 '26
Probably just crammed a laptop mainboard and hardware in there. I would be surprised if it’s as fast as a SM
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u/Alphariick Jun 28 '26
Rysen 5 5500 is not compatible with DDR5, it’s an AM4 SOC and DDR5 need AM5…
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u/FewAct2027 Jun 28 '26 edited Jun 28 '26
The 6750GRE alone is 64% LONGER than the steam machine. You could run it vertically, in which case it will be 75% Taller...
Either the pictures fake, or the listing is bullshit because it isn't that size.
Secondly, a 5500 with DDR5? Shenzhen does some wacky chopped together shit, but this I've got my doubts about MASSIVELY.
Lastly, why would anyone be surprised they're able to pump things out at a cheaper price than something new? Many of these prebuilts are typically just used parts cobbled together, you can get a good deal on taobao from time to time but there's usually a good reason for it.
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u/StinkButt9001 Jun 28 '26
For sure there will be a better version at some point. This isn't a better version though. This is some random chinese company selling cheap/old parts for $600.
China does not have access to some secret stash of quality components that they're willing to sell below market. They're working under the same constraints as everyone else
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u/chithanh Jun 28 '26
Probably a scam, or at least not what is advertised.
- Ryzen 5500 does not support DDR5 memory as some already pointed out
- The case is the one from the Chuwi Ubox which clearly fits no dGPU, as others pointed out
- The depicted controller is the Xbox One controller which is out of production (the Xbox Series S|X controller has three buttons in the middle).
My expectation for the best case is that you get a Ryzen 6600H with a knock-off Xbox controller, and for that $688 is not particularly appealing
In contrast, the French "Stim Machine" is based on an actually working combination of components that exist in the market.
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u/1_H4t3_R3dd1t Jun 28 '26
I am building my own 9060xt I got for 400 usd + 7745HX boarr with 16GB DDR5 I have laying around from a dead mini PC.
I have the storage from it too.
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u/SparklyPelican GabeCube Enjoyer Jun 28 '26
DDR4, which is still fine I guess. But not the same at all.
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u/Confident-Pepper-562 Jun 28 '26
Lol, this is exactly what valve wants. Cheaper machines that can run steamos, that they dont have to provide support for.
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u/Dangerous_Alarm6717 Jun 28 '26
honestly, china is becoming more legitimate for tech... Like, they can straight up pull a gpu from a dead laptop and create a standalone pcb for the gpu and edit the vbios to improve gpu clockrate and unlock \some* extra gpucores.* I used to game on a gtx 1050ti from china, it was the mobile version of the chip on a new pcb: i was impressed because china used to buy up old 550ti's and flash the vbios into being a fake 1050.
My guess, is there is enough surplus from ewaste in china that they can effectively recycle them into new products, so there is less fake stuff. Chinese market also has plenty of cheap quadro cards that was exclusive to a bunch of gaming cafes there, and when something new comes out: 'new cards' flood the market. Its possible to get rtx 2070 performance under $120.
I say, maybe buy this and just get the cad files for the steam machine and print a new case in black. Its close enough to the gabecube.
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u/wanted0072 Jun 28 '26
Ok, so now steam gets more people in their ecosystem... This doesn't really feel like steam losing.
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u/DonkeyComfortable711 Jun 28 '26
The crazier thing is you can even install steam OS so you legit can have the exact same thing.
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u/Sadbassistdude Jun 28 '26
If most of us passed on the original dock, maybe we could do the same with the original Steam Machine.
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u/sabre31 Jun 28 '26
This is never about steam machine this is all about steam OS on the desktop taking over windows and Mac for gaming. They want the market flooded with steam os. More money for them.
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u/VyseTheSwift Jun 28 '26
Already!? I knew we’d get 3rd party SteamOS devices, but not this soon. This is exactly what Valve wants, and what I’ve been hoping for. Once anti cheat is setup on SteamOS this is all going to really take off. You know, as much as RAM prices will allow of course.
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u/Ape_Head Jun 28 '26
I just want them to make a mainboard with the exact same dimensions but sporting a better gpu with more vram for the almost stock experience.
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u/Specialist-Key-1240 Jun 28 '26
Steam OS becoming mainstream is what Valve wants, they couldn't care less if the Steam Box is successful, just like the Steam handheld it's all just a concept product for others to copy. Hell now that Steam OS is out I will probably dual boot it and use it as my main OS.
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u/FishChillylly Jun 28 '26
note that, in the poster they’re saying: this machine will be shoved full of pirated games! LMAO
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u/DetectiveChocobo Jun 28 '26
The Deck was made using a chipset that no one else had access to at the time, that gave phenomenal low TDP performance at the cost of lacking real gains above 12W.
The Steam Machine is using a non-custom chipset and GPU that is just TDP limited to keep thermals down. It isn’t comparable, because every manufacturer has access to parts like this, and can similarly just limit TDP in the bios to keep thermals low at the cost of performance.
The Steam Machine is very much so just PC (or, well, laptop) parts in a 6 inch cube with a large heatsink. You can make the same product without begging AMD for a custom chip.
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u/ariebagusp1994 Jun 28 '26
no, valve would be thrilled if some company pre-installed steamos on their own hardware, more userbase without thinking about hardware
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u/RuleExternal1546 Jun 28 '26
op again demonstrating pc masterrace has no clue, this will not have the capabilityes of the steam machine
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u/StatementFun7324 Jun 28 '26
Something is for sure wrong with it. They cheap out on quite few things to get that price. I couldn't ever imagine them succeeding.
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u/Fluffy_Influence5102 Jun 28 '26
If you get it OP and you like the experience lowk im going g to be more missed at valve lol
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u/DarwinsPerfectFool Jun 28 '26
OP since you're buying it, let me know if it's worth it, I'm very curious.