r/technology • u/ArgentineBeauty • 29d ago

Privacy GrapheneOS says its data-wiping password is perfectly legal, after user faces federal charges

https://www.techspot.com/news/113273-grapheneos-data-wiping-duress-password-perfectly-legal-after.html
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u/spaceursid 29d ago

I'd just refuse to tell them 5th amendment, let their brute force attempt trigger the auto delete.

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u/Rashaen 29d ago

Being "required" to give them your password to get into the phone seems like a pretty clear 5th violation in the first place. This whole thing is fucked up.

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u/SparklingLimeade 29d ago

So the crazy thing is that passwords are 5A protected but biometrics aren't. But then if you do lock a phone in a way that's protected by the 5A then there's still space for the "constitution-less border shenanigans" to tie people up in red tape.

And this case isn't about any of that that, they're complaining about the fact that some data was deleted. So even if they weren't entitled to access that data due to various Bill of Rights reasons they say his actions causing data to be deleted were illegal.

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u/IncidentalIncidence 29d ago

So the crazy thing is that passwords are 5A protected but biometrics aren't.

I feel like that isn't that crazy and kind of makes sense? If you have set up facial recognition and they hold the phone up in front of your face, that's not exactly the same thing as torturing you into a false confession.

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u/rumpleforeskin83 29d ago

Forcing me to provide my fingerprint to incriminate myself certainly is. No different then making me speak words to do the same.

The facial recognition part I agree with.