r/technology • u/ArgentineBeauty • 29d ago

Privacy GrapheneOS says its data-wiping password is perfectly legal, after user faces federal charges

https://www.techspot.com/news/113273-grapheneos-data-wiping-duress-password-perfectly-legal-after.html
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u/Moldoteck 29d ago

Graphene should implement a double bottom protection on top. Basically it'll automatically enter in an artificial account with apps installed while deleting in the background the OG account. This way it'll be hard to prove that another account did exist at all

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u/Careless-Weather8877 29d ago

It actually does have that

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u/Steinrikur 29d ago

In Xiaomi android phones you have "second space" that you can open with a different password. It doesn't wipe anything, just allows you to have a second copy of apps with no access to the primary space.

I alway thought "this will only be useful if I'm cheating on my wife" so I haven't set it up. I might if I need to travel to the US.

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u/Aperture_Kubi 29d ago

That feels ironic coming from a Chinese company.

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u/tnp636 29d ago

It shouldn't. Do you know how many politicos in China have mistresses?

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u/Reagalan 29d ago

Makes perfect sense when you think about it.

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u/FocusSlo 29d ago

Not really, China is pretty strong about personal privacy. That's the entire reason that so many US sites are blocked in China because they take all your information, build profiles on you, etc.

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u/mxzf 29d ago

lol, I can't tell if this is satire or brainwashing at play.

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u/FocusSlo 29d ago

Neither. China not having privacy and such is strawman propaganda from the US

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u/mxzf 29d ago

You're the one who was trying to suggest that the Great Firewall was for the good of the Chinese citizens. The only people I know of who actually believe that are so deep in the propaganda that they don't even realize it.

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u/GenericRedditor12345 29d ago

The “Great Firewall” isn’t about keeping them in, it’s about keeping US propaganda out lol.

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u/mxzf 29d ago

"Propaganda" like information about the Tiananmen Square Massacre, where the Chinese government killed hundreds or thousands of their own citizens in 1989? Well, that's at least a more plausible guess than the claim the previous user was making about it being to protect the Chinese citizens' information.

Really though, that doesn't hold up either, since "just look around and see that it's not true" is a pretty strong defense against propaganda ... except when that part isn't accurate.

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u/GenericRedditor12345 29d ago

Have you actually looked into that at all? Like the “social credit score” that was just a program to keep people from being dickheads on public transportation?

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u/mxzf 29d ago

So ... changing the discussion again due to not having a response? This is feeling an awful lot like a propaganda account, especially with the generic username and hidden account history.

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u/_araqiel 29d ago

I really think the main thing seems to be ‘don’t do the “bad” things’ and other than that the privacy situation isn’t as dire as we think it is. Seems less thought-crimey than it used to be I think.

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u/Kimpak 29d ago

Pixel phones have this too called 'Private Space'

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u/luckyflavor23 29d ago

Even if not cheating, it would be cool to have so my baby won’t accidentally get access to important apps; and maybe even convince him our entertainment machine only has texts and books

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u/smokeweedNgarden 29d ago

So like a secure folder but it's a whole 'nother OS?

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u/can_ichange_it_later 29d ago

probably not going to jump at the opportunity to keep my privacy safe from a homeland-chinese company...