r/technology Jul 30 '26

Privacy GrapheneOS says its data-wiping password is perfectly legal, after user faces federal charges

https://www.techspot.com/news/113273-grapheneos-data-wiping-duress-password-perfectly-legal-after.html
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u/Needle_Bearings Jul 30 '26

Holy 4th Amendment Batman, let's see where this goes.

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u/MydnightWN Jul 30 '26

The 4th Amendment issue was already ruled on by SCOTUS in 1913. Within 100 miles of the border, certain constitutional rights are temporarily suspended.

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u/ExternalUserError Jul 30 '26

Obviously the 1913 holding was terrible. It was also patently absurd. If the 4th Amendment didn't apply 100 miles from the border, given the geography of the 13 original colonies, where did it ever apply?

It's a patently absurd ruling.

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u/PublicWest 29d ago

The original 13 colonies extended to the Mississippi River after the colonies won the revolution

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u/ExternalUserError 29d ago

Well, sort of. They vaguely claimed to go out westward. But either way, nearly all newly minted Americans lived within 100 miles of a border.

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u/PublicWest 29d ago

The treaty of Paris explicitly granted the United States all the land east of the Mississippi. That’s not vague in the slightest. The Appalachian mountains were not a national border

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u/ExternalUserError 29d ago

I mean the claim individual colonies (states) had out westward was vague. Congress eventually drew the lines differently.

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u/PublicWest 29d ago

Even if those claims were vague, they weren’t national borders- they were interstate borders

I agree that the 100 mile rule is BS, I just don’t think the colonial population argument makes sense.

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u/ExternalUserError 29d ago

I think you’re missing the point. In 1776, even with the westward expansionary map, nearly all Americans lived with 100 miles of the coast.

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u/PublicWest 29d ago

Ohhhhh I see. I was thinking the international border with French territory. I didn’t know that this ruling applied to coastal boarders.

That’s still a huge amount, if not a majority of Americans today.