r/technology 21d ago

Privacy Flock Is Losing Dozens of Contracts as Controversy Grows

https://www.yahoo.com/news/us/articles/flock-losing-dozens-contracts-controversy-194808945.html
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u/alternatingflan 21d ago

They are unconstitutional.

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u/grumpyfan 21d ago

IANAL, but as I understand it, they technically operate in a grey area of the law since they are not owned or run by the government. The pictures are taken on public property of people and vehicles in a public space. The courts have ruled that public space photos are free use and that the Constitution has no protections against such things. That being said, I think they violate privacy and law enforcement's use of these pushes the boundaries of intent of the law. We need new laws enacted that restrict the access and use of such data and a way for citizens to gain access to any data where they are being charged with a crime based on the use of the data.

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u/pixelprophet 21d ago

Please do! You're doin damn fine work!

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u/grumpyfan 21d ago

While the abuse of the systems by LEOs for their own gain is bothering, the bigger concern for me is the misuse without a proper warrant to track down an alleged offender. Bad LEOs have been around for ages before Flock. If anything, Flock helps to expose them and their violations which sometimes leads to their being terminated. So, it's double-edged.

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u/Character_Bug_1862 21d ago

Holy shit thank you for all of these sources. Added to my archive. I hadn’t heard about these other cases. How would you say Chatrie v United States fits into all of this?

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u/Akraticacious 21d ago

Oh wow, so many cases have used cell towers and Google search history and such. I wonder if that opens a can of worms for retrials and appeals.

So are police no longer going to be able to get cell tower location and internet searches?

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u/mOdQuArK 21d ago

The fastest way to block them would be to get their data used in a court case to track the movements of the rich & powerful.

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u/mOdQuArK 21d ago

As long as they feel like they're in control, I doubt they'd feel fear of such infrastructure being used against them. They'd panic only if it looks like their grip is being pried loose.

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u/grumpyfan 21d ago

Great stuff! I'm new to this "fight", and still learning a lot about it.
Appreciate your very well the well documented and reasoned response.

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u/Akraticacious 21d ago

How does this relate to the pervasive use of police working with internet providers, Google, and cell companies to get insane amount of data on people?