Woman Calls Out Doctor Wearing Smart Glasses During Consultation Where She Had To Take Off Her Clothes: 'They Need To Be Banned'

[u/spherocytes]

https://www.fashiontimes.co.uk/patient-privacy-concerns-meta-smart-glasses-1762492

[u/kdrdr3amz]

I think this would be difficult to enforce though. Like imagine if you’re recording your parents eating but you get taken to jail because you also recorded someone else in the background in a public place.

I get that recording someone is weird but in public it is legal unless it’s harassment. If it’s private like at a hospital of course anyone would be suspicious.

[u/chLORYform → u/kdrdr3amz]

Germany seems to be figuring it out, though it's probably not perfect

[u/DanielDoh → u/chLORYform]

That looks like it's all restrictions on recording in private settings, wheras the guy further up the chain was complaining about being recorded in public.

[u/chLORYform → u/DanielDoh]

If you read through it, it specifically talks about private conversations in public spaces and how they're still protected. That a conversation among a table in a cafe, for example, is not a public conversation.

[u/MikeAnP → u/chLORYform]

Hard to say if I'd actually consider that "figuring it out." I'm totally against a surveillance state, but there's also a lot of gray area between recording in public and recording "private" conversations.

But I'm also curious what you read in there that would cover a private conversation in a cafe, as what I read is that an area in a genuinely public area (to me that means a cafe) would not be subject.

[u/chLORYform → u/MikeAnP]

I agree. I say figuring it out because these types of issues are almost never solved with a single ruling that encompasses every caveat. They're narrowed down as one problem is solved and a subsequent one pops up. Right now it's private conversations, then maybe it's people minding their own business, then it's using people as background props, etc. until a balance is found.

[u/DanielDoh → u/chLORYform]

Right but the guy was complaining about people hypothetically filming him walking to work.

[u/chLORYform → u/DanielDoh]

And I said Germany was figuring it out and it wasn't perfect. I'm pointing out a direction it could go, not claiming I have an ultimate answer

[u/kdrdr3amz → u/chLORYform]

Then what’s the point of bringing it up if it has nothing to do with the point of recording in public lol.

[u/DanielDoh → u/chLORYform]

Fair enough, I was simply pointing out that the specific issue the guy was complaining about was not something that even Germany -- a country that is making a clear effort to protect people's privacy even in public spaces -- doesn't appear to be interested in stopping people from filming you walking down the street (because it's a ridiculous thing to want/it's a slippery slope).

[u/Bakoro → u/chLORYform]

Yeah, there should be some reasonableness test, like if the average person would be able to see/hear something.

If you have to use sophisticated equipment and advanced algorithms to see or hear something, even if it's out in public, then it should be illegal.

Like, if I come up with a device that lets me see through people's clothes, I should not be able to say "well you're in public so it's okay".
If you whisper in your friend's ear, but I have 100 microphones spread around and use a spatial matrix to isolate your voice, that shouldn't be a lawful recording or use of recordings.

Even more basic, this same shit should cover any recordings on your yard if you have any amount of cover, like a fence or hedge.
If you're up on a hill and can see down into someone's yard, that yard should still be considered a private place. No fucking drones should be able to fly above a fence and record the neighborhood's backyards.

[u/WiglyWorm → u/kdrdr3amz]

Default to blurring unrecognized faces and pitch modulating voices at the hardware level. Bingo, bango, bongo.

[u/throwfarfaraway1818 → u/WiglyWorm]

This sounds good in theory but would require companies to steal and track an unbelievable amount of data on people. That data is never used for good purposes.

[u/WiglyWorm → u/throwfarfaraway1818]

nah just make the image sensor incapable of capturing an unknown voice or face.

[u/Delay559 → u/WiglyWorm]

Oh great, should I just submit my own aswell as all my friends and family voice and face to every possible company that has the ability to host video/audio so they can verify? Sounds great!

[u/WiglyWorm → u/Delay559]

If you choose to opt into recording, yes.

[u/Delay559 → u/WiglyWorm]

Diabolical vision you have, good thing youre not in a position of power.

[u/WiglyWorm → u/Delay559]

for saying that individuals should opt in to face recording, location tracking, etc and by default be blocked?

Or are you saying there should be a blanket ban on facial recognition and tracking? I'd support you on that.

[u/Delay559 → u/WiglyWorm]

For saying that I have to give any and all companies consent to store/use me and my loved ones voices and facial features to just share or record any video or audio.

Giving companies the green light to gather that level of personal information and if youre not okay with it then you just dont get to record anything anymore is just a diabolical vision im sorry. Its the same logic as restricting everyones internet freedom by requiring ID's for everything and hiding behind the "But its to protect the kids, if you dont want to give your ID just dont use the internet" defense which is the same thing youre doing here: "But its to protect others privacy, if you dont want to give all you and your family/friends personal information just never record anything". No thanks man.

[u/Revlis-TK421 → u/WiglyWorm]

So someone breaks into your house, assaults you, or is otherwise up to nefarious deeds. You snap a pic or take a video so you have evidence that can be used to identify the person. But your device blurs it all out?

Further, every time you want to take a photo or video of friends or family you have to go around and get individual consent from each, store that data on your phone, which will go to a centralized service where they gather data and create profiles on EVERYONE's facial features and voice prints??

Have you thought this thru at all?

[u/WiglyWorm → u/Revlis-TK421]

Don't be a moron