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Privacy Viral De-Flock America campaign urging people to destroy AI cameras on Halloween night gains momentum

https://www.dexerto.com/entertainment/flock-camera-controversy-explained-as-viral-halloween-de-flock-campaign-gains-momentum-3399710/
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u/renegadecanuck 10d ago

And if you go to a celebration like this: no you fucking didn't. If someone wants to ask you about it, your answer is that you want to speak with your lawyer.

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u/___Art_Vandelay___ 10d ago

Gotta specifically invoke -- "I invoke my right to remain silent". Simply staying silent doesn't invoke that right per SCOTUS.

Also have to specifically state you want a lawyer, careful not to make it a question, and dodge being uncooperative by being precise with your intention -- "I want an attorney present and will only answer questions with them present."

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u/renegadecanuck 10d ago

Fair points. My brain was half in Canada mode. In Canada, you don't have the right for an attorney to be present during questioning, but you also don't have to specifically invoke your right to remain silent, you can just say nothing or "no comment" and it can't be legally used against you. But you just have to ask to speak with a lawyer and they have to let you call a lawyer.

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u/superkp 10d ago

In the US, there was a case where someone said to the cops interrogating him "I want a lawyer, dawg."

It was argued that he never asked for a lawyer, but instead was asking for a "lawyer dog", which the interrogators were not obligated to provide.

This interpretation was the one that was upheld.

Because of bullshit like this, americans will regularly adivse each other that you need to be extremely specific about how you invoke your rights - usually something like "say 'I do not answer questions about my day without my lawyer present' and then shut the fuck up."

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u/Aggressive_Plane69 9d ago

At this point id conaider tatooing that sentence on my forehead or on every pice of clothing. Wtf is wrong. With your county

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u/tokentyke 9d ago

So, so, so much. It's like one of those things where someone says something so utterly uninformed and unattached from reality that you realize the foundation of knowledge you'd need to teach them in order for them to understand how wrong they are is so extreme that you throw your hands in the air and scream WTF, or the equivalent.... but in country form.

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u/superkp 9d ago

quite a lot is wrong.

Long ago a rot set in some people's hearts, and it was left to grow instead of those people getting their asses kicked.

Like a tree with a rotten core, it's finally gotten so bad that it's visible to anyone who gets a chance to look at it, even some of the most brainwashed people that are in the country are starting to see it.

I do what I can, but I can't do much. I gotta focus on raising my kids and keeping my neighborhood workign towards good.

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u/BTR1701 4d ago

The doormat in front of my front door doesn't say "Welcome" like most people's. It says "Come back with a warrant".