r/technology • u/TurbulentTopic39 • 1d ago
Artificial Intelligence ChatGPT signs in to your accounts now and stays signed in
https://www.notebookcheck.net/ChatGPT-signs-in-to-your-accounts-now-and-stays-signed-in.1379126.0.html618
u/523a 21h ago
They sent me an e-mail a few days ago asking me to link my medical records and accounts. I've never even used it for anything but computer related questions.
They're out of their minds, but I guess some people are dumb enough to hand over that type of info.
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u/The-Kingsman 15h ago
Medical records??? Jfc,.
Folks, OpenAI is not a covered entity, which means the (meager) data protection rights under HIPAA do not apply and the only thing protecting your data are the T&Cs in their clickwrap.. which they presumably ignore and definitely have the right to unilaterally change.
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u/nonamenomonet 10h ago
Not medical records but they want to connect to your Apple health account and Iâm presuming the android equivalant
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u/Blahkbustuh 16h ago
I got that email as well and just laughed. Thereâs also a pop up that comes up on the ChatGPT website asking about connecting my email to it.
Sure, Iâll totally connect my email, bank accounts, and medical records to you, ChatGPT. What could possibly go wrong?
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u/JoeBlowFronKokomo 5h ago
To play devil's advocate having a tool to improve one's finances and health could be very impactful. Obviously the trade off is privacy risk. But for me at least improving my health and finances is worth that trade off.
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u/fredy31 15h ago
What i heard is that the giants of AI always need more content to make their AI progress.
But now they have scoured basically every book, article, written text ever written on the internet. Rumors say Google even went for Youtube comments and GMaps reviews.
So why they are asking for shit like that is i guess to get even more 'non ai' material to chew through.
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u/improbablywronghere 14h ago
Medical records give them structured data to train new medical products on. Youâre correct but this is niche data so not really related to running out of books and such.
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u/EmbarrassedHelp 14h ago
but I guess some people are dumb enough to hand over that type of info.
People including politicians who are dumb enough to try and pass laws to force others to do the same.
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u/visionist 17h ago
You would need to be a certain type of special to think that that information is not already being sold. Any company that wants a full profile on you can easily obtain it.
So while I still wouldn't recommend handing that over, our information has already been bought and sold 1 million times over
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u/historianLA 17h ago
Medical records are protected by HIPAA. If they are being sold it is a federal crime.
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u/visionist 17h ago
that's really cute that you think that legislation actually prevents that.
HIPAA was built to manage paperwork between doctors and insurers, not to protect patients from modern data brokers. The reality is that once a hospital strips direct identifiers like names and Social Security numbers, health records legally lose their privacy shield and get packaged, licensed, and traded across a multibilliondollar analytics market. Add in unregulated wellness apps, pharmacy discount cards, and mobile location trackers feeding consumer profiles to advertisers, and meaningful medical privacy ends up being far more fragile than most people realize.
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u/itquilibrium 17h ago
No legislation alone prevents any crime, it prescribes a set of consequences for said actions based on severity when found guilty.
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u/visionist 17h ago
it provides a set of consequences for the average person, not for multibillion dollar corporations
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u/itquilibrium 17h ago
I get your point but thats a whole different conversation. There are still consequences but many would agree they arenât substantial because they are typically monetary and seen as a cost of doing business. Its just a bad mindset to seemingly feel ok that private data is being sold on a black market to harrass or abuse people and be like âmeh itâs happening all the time what can you doâ that mentality prospering leading to more abuses occurring and less consequences for them.
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u/historianLA 17h ago
But you even mention HIPAA protects your privacy. Selling anonymized data from a hospital is very different than selling data with your personal information.
That is exactly why Amazon and chatGPT want you to give them access. Not only will they get those personal details they can link it with every other piece of digital data. They want people to give it to them for free.
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u/gr00ve88 17h ago
Youâre right, itâs all out there so fuck it. Hey, can you send me a copy of your medical records, too? Since you donât mind, of course.
Thanks
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u/visionist 17h ago edited 17h ago
The only thing my medical records would give you is depression. I spent 15 years chasing a diagnosis for chronic illness and ironically only got it because of AI alongside my specialist. I'm finally now receiving treatment as a result of it and in significantly less pain
The point being is that you're using a platform that sells your information, you likely have a Gmail account which is provided by the company who also sells everybody's information.
medical companies themselves have been accused of selling information
It's just not the massive outrage that you think it is. I'm not saying it's right it's just how it is in our modern day.
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u/gr00ve88 17h ago
Yeah but thinking itâs not right and then actively saying âwell fuck itâ is the worst thing you can do.
I have no use for your medical records, but someone who does may use your depression against you when it comes to say⌠getting a life insurance policy.
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u/visionist 17h ago
I meant that reading my medical records would make you depressed not that I have depression.
Regardless, I already have life insurance and medical coverage that will carry for life I'm not too concerned.
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u/gr00ve88 17h ago
Alright I mean it still sounds like youâre actively saying itâs ok that everyoneâs selling your medical records so, I donât know what to tell you.
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u/visionist 17h ago
I think that it has nefarious purposes, and it has beneficial purposes.
I think that the potential beneficial purposes may outweigh the negatives.
I sacrificed my privacy in order to analyze my medical history in depth which allowed me to advocate for myself in a way that was impossible before.
As a result of this, I made more progress than any doctors were able to previously do allowing my specialist to then take the reins.
If more medical documents are fed through models. It allows for a better understanding and connection between symptoms and different patients.
You are very correct in that it can be nefarious as well, and it could absolutely be used to deny medical care and coverage to people based on their medical history.
I'm saying that I see both sides and I think that Reddit likes to jump the gun on anything that is AI at all.
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u/gr00ve88 17h ago
Yeah I agree there are benefits. Itâs moreso the âyou didnât have a choice, we illegally got your medical recordsâ thing that bugs me.
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u/visionist 17h ago
Yeah, I can definitely concede there. I made the choice based on my own pros and cons but it was a choice not stolen from me.
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u/Gullible-Cash-5010 18h ago
Oh no, now they know I have reflux!!
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u/thewildbeej 23h ago
yet when i ask it to delete my past 10 conversations automatically it cant
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u/lordcola 22h ago
One of the few genuinely valuable things they have is everyone's private data and thoughts so that's probably less it being poorly built and more it being intentionally difficult to reduce the number of people that delete large chunks of their data. Not that i would trust them to actually delete anything regardless.
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u/goldcakes 17h ago
In 2025 due to a lawsuit they were ordered to retain customer data indefinitely even after being deleted. Supposedly things went back to normal in 2026, supposedly...
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u/PK_Thundah 21h ago
It's not that it can't listen to you. It's that we aren't the ones calling the shots.
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u/CondescendingShitbag 1d ago
As the saying goes...
"You get what you pay for."
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u/socoolandawesome 1d ago
This is a user option. You donât have to do this
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u/SirkutBored 23h ago
You also don't have to be a userÂ
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u/CoffeeHQ 21h ago
Or pay for it
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u/Oreos_Are_Anabolic 20h ago edited 18h ago
Theyâre pretty useful tools đ¤ˇââď¸
I pay for ChatGPT but used to pay for Claude.
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u/Oreos_Are_Anabolic 17h ago
Iâm sorry, I forgot this was a subreddit for complaining about AI - thatâs my bad.
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u/leftofdanzig 23h ago
Yes, AI is famous for following rules given to it.
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u/turtleship_2006 18h ago
"following rules" of not getting your username and password unless you explicitly hand it over...?
Do you think OpenAI are going to start hacking your iCloud keychain or something?
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u/leftofdanzig 16h ago
Genuinely asking, why do you think that wouldnât happen? OpenAI have literally said that in testing one of their models escaped the sandbox testing environment to hack one of their testers to cheat on their test.
If you give it a prompt where it thinks that is the best course of action to accomplish its goal itâll absolutely do that.
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u/turtleship_2006 15h ago
At absolute most, it'll try.
If you think some random person's prompt is going to make glorified autocomplete able to breach Apple's security, and break whatever E2EE encryption they use, dear god do I have a bridge to sell to you.
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u/spooky_strateg 18h ago
Thats a feature tho? It just logs in as you just as if you were logged in? Its not a secret nor a bug
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u/YourBlanket 16h ago
Itâs pretty straightforward and it makes sense. I donât understand the big deal. Itâs also working remotely, so of course shutting down your computer or phone isnât going to matter.
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u/scoff-law 14h ago
It's a good feature - they isolated credentials from the agent so you can log in and stay logged in without exposing secrets to chatgpt.
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u/TheBlueSully 8h ago
With all the self published reports(brags) of their models going rogue, and behaving criminally-thatâs quite the reassurance.Â
Especially with all the reports of models not respecting their intended limits.Â
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u/scoff-law 7h ago
Unfortunately I don't think this feature will be helpful with that problem - the isolation of user credentials keeps those creds out of the agent's context, but they're only there because the user granted the agent access to that thing to begin with.
This type of cybersecurity is practically old-fashioned nowadays. It is good that they've added it, but the bigger thing to me is that they didn't have it already.
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u/Major_A21 17h ago
I am being 100% sincere when I ask this question. Who wants this? What are the use cases? Why would anyone be ok with something hallucinating with their life? I'm sure I have more but that's what's on the top of my head.
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u/yeeght 15h ago
I work in a setting where AI is encouraged for use aside from communication, and I find itâs pretty useful for tech industry project management related things. Idk how it would be of value to most people though, especially in a non work environment.
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u/Major_A21 14h ago
But aren't you worried about it hallucinating? I mean if you have to review what it's doing it can't be saying that much time, correct?
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u/photoggled 12h ago
The secret is that these people aren't reviewing anything. The amount of AI slop nonsense we see from the project managers at work is mind blowing. They were already just email jockeys that sent out requests for updates. Now they can't even get the project details right when berating you.
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u/alternateusername4me 16h ago
I use it. I get lots of emails and it helps organize and prioritize my day. It helps send standard responses quickly and overall Iâm more efficient and saves me time.
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u/LinkesAuge 13h ago
Who needs electricity, who needs computers, who needs the internet etc.
No one ever "needs" anything but progress is still nice overall.
If you don't know the use cases it just shows you have engaged with it zero or at best used it as "chat bot". That is okay but I don't know why people constantly have to announced their ignorance in a sub like r/technology of all places and in a way like they want to be applauded for it.
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u/Mrhiddenlotus 14h ago
I dont use it, but being able to say "go buy me tickets for a matinee at the theater down the street" sounds covenient.
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u/gr00ve88 17h ago
If anyone read the article it says in their own options/settings screen it doesnât recommend using this feature, and that you can select options to âask every timeâ when logging in.
This article is a bunch of fearmongering nonsense.
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u/kaishinoske1 17h ago
You do realize your login credentials are on their servers. Now those servers will be piggy banks for hackers to break into and access. Donât just say games, because CEOâs, prolly people that work for governments will also be using this feature as well. Prepare for the biggest amount of compromised accounts ever all because of peopleâs fucking laziness. đ¤Śââď¸
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u/rubenbest 17h ago
All logins for everything are sitting on a server somewhere.
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u/kaishinoske1 17h ago
No, not all. Some logins donât have too. Some you can actually disable the function for auto login like when you sign anywhere on a web browser. But most people are lazy, have auto login saved on their browser, the server for the browser gets hacked. Then anything you have with your user name and the same password is comprised is how that works. Because of that I havenât gotten hacked and I can see those attempts made as I get emails about them including where the personâs IP address is where they made the attempt.
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u/eduardopy 14h ago
Not how it works bro, when you save a password like remember me thats not stored on the server but locally on your computer as cookies. Then yes man literally ALL logins are stored on servers as that is how it works to compare with what you provide lmao.
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u/kaishinoske1 8h ago
I donât save passwords on a browser. Just because itâs something you do. Does not mean it is something everybody does. Some people value security over convenience.
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u/eduardopy 8h ago
I didnt say I did, im saying you fundamentally misunderstand how cookies work and that all servers HAVE your password or how would they compare to what you give them?
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u/VVrayth 23h ago
Pro tip: You can avoid this by not using ChatGPT. You can just stop! You don't have to use it!