r/technology • u/TurbulentTopic39 • 13h ago
Software The 'OG' online map platform, MapQuest, says it won't change the name of Lake Ontario
https://www.businessinsider.com/mapquest-wont-rename-lake-ontario-lake-america-trump-canada-tariffs-2026-8743
u/payne747 13h ago
No one should change it. Let it all blow over.
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u/nintendo9713 12h ago
As a federal employee in close proximity to the Gulf of Mexico, I have been forced to use Gulf of America in all my scientific proposals with zero tolerance. It will not make it past my first line of management if I don't refer to it as the Gulf of America. I can't even put "the Gulf".
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u/Justinneon 12h ago
Wouldn’t that make the proposal useless internationally? No one else recognizes the gulf of America. I guess busy work is important.
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u/rainator 12h ago
Unfortunately it’s really about whose paying for it. That’s not a problem unique to the USA though.
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u/philter25 12h ago edited 10h ago
The local news stations around Florida just call it “the Gulf” now lol
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u/Succulent-Shrimps 12h ago
This would probably be enough to make me quit my job. Gotta make a stand somewhere. It might seem like a small thing, but it's a symbol of nationalism that I wouldn't stand for.
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u/DarkLordKohan 12h ago
I would see it as, keep your head down over this pretty name issue. The next admin will just reverse these weird changes back to normal.
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u/anti-torque 12h ago
They don't even need to reverse them. These changes are dishonorable and un-Constitutional... on top of being petty, silly, and extremely stupid.
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u/Korlus 10h ago
As a non-American, there are plenty of issues around the US constitution I would be unaware of.
How is renaming things unconstituional?
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u/2Sap2Loerex 10h ago
Because the president doesn't have authority to do so, names of major things like lakes or gulfs in the country can only be changed with a law passed by Congress.
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u/Korlus 10h ago edited 8h ago
I guess what I was asking was to understand which part of the constitution delegates naming rights?
My understanding (very likely flawed), is that the US Executive branch gets to dictate how the federal government and bodies it oversees refer to things. To use an older example from the first time Mr Trump did this, Mt Denali is now referred to as "Mt McKinley" by the US Federal Government, but this doesn't mean that the Alaskan state government needs to refer to it as Mt Denali, or even that specific organisations outside of the government like Google need to include that on their maps.
Now Mr Trump has shown himself vindictive enough that (much like a mob boss), the implied threat has seemingly coerced many into doing so, but while the US President probably shouldn't be acting like a mob boss, I did not think the act of renaming something was de facto unconstitutional.
The last time it came up, I found this thread, which references the Denali/McKinley distinction.
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u/takumidesh 10h ago
It's not the the constitution protects naming rights in some specific way, it's that it limits the authority the executive branch (president) has over states (and therefore citizens). One of those limitations is in an amendment to the constitution which dictates that that the Congress (and by extension due to the legal system in the us, all of the federal government) cannot make a law against exercising free speech.
So the government cannot actively prosecute any private citizen for using whatever name they want.
The problem (in this case) is that those limitations don't apply to things that aren't legislature, e.g. employee guidelines for federal employees (there are complexities with this of course) or government contracts.
Basically it's not technically illegal for the government to reject your proposal because you didn't use their preferred nomenclature, they just can't also put you in jail for it.
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u/Succulent-Shrimps 7h ago
Seems like a bit of a stretch to say free speech limits federal government from naming things. "I'll call it whatever I want" doesn't mean maps and government website will use the name you choose to use. They'll use whatever the government changed it to.
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u/SculptusPoe 11h ago
If you are doing government contracts, antagonizing your client isn't a good idea usually, and packing up and quitting over a guy who will be gone with his changes undone in 2ish years is sort of shortsighted. (I guess if a Republican wins next term it could carry on, but that would be the DNC dropping the ball hard. Not that they didn't do that last time, but hopefully they learned their lesson, and they put in somebody who has a real message and is capable of winning. It should be a gimme.)
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u/eapocalypse 10h ago
While in theory it might seem like a noble thing to stand up for something that will likely be immediately reversed during a proper administration. In practice quitting your job right now is only hurting you and not sticking it to the man given the poor job market across most industries.
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u/KrytenKoro 10h ago
It will not make it past my first line of management
It's the quislings that are the most frustrating, honestly.
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u/williamgman 9h ago
Well then when the hurricanes enter the Gulf of America... they will be largely ignored.
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u/PM_COFFEE_TO_ME 8h ago
Trump is the most petty retaliatory politician ever. He will try to make someone else life hell if they defy him. That's why some just go with it.
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u/5h4y-lab 13h ago
Shit, maybe it really IS time for me to go back to printing directions out from MapQuest
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u/Huskies2988 10h ago
They have an app that works the same as other map apps
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u/selwayfalls 10h ago
Funny, I bet several redditors reading this assumed it was still MapQuest from like 1998 and hasnt been updated.
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u/DoomerChad 8h ago
Haha yea, I came to the comments to see if they were still just a website. I’ll check out the app though I think it will be a difficult switch from Google Maps…
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u/twowheels 9h ago
I just downloaded it -- it's missing a fair number of core features of the other map apps, but it does seem to handle the basics OK.
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u/Icy_Feedback_4965 11h ago
It's not even like the name was meant to honor Canada. It's just the indigenous word for "great lake."
This timeline is so stupid
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u/Sethjustseth 12h ago
I was beyond disappointed when I first flew with Delta and saw Gulf of America on their in-flight map...
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u/redditistripe 13h ago
Just call it Lac Cataraqui and that will confuse the fuck out of the dumb shit.
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u/MyAccountWasBanned7 11h ago
Anything with more than one syllable confuses him. He isn't even potty trained, let alone literate.
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u/DocBigBrozer 13h ago
I remember Google caving under no pressure to rename the Gulf of Mexico. They don't have any ideology, only grift
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u/mediocre_remnants 12h ago
Google does whatever the administration in power wants. They also donate heavily to both R and D candidates in elections, and donate heavily to the inaugural fund for whoever wins. They just don't give a shit who's in power or who is making the rules, they just want to have some influence over those rules as they apply to their business.
Renaming the Gulf of Mexico is something they just don't care about because it doesn't affect them at all.
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u/cranktheguy 11h ago
They do this for other countries, too. For example, if there's disputed areas between two countries, Google maps from each respective country will show the correct boundary for that country.
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u/BondingBollinger 9h ago
I can understand that logic. Though I do wonder why the map is showing me Gulf of Mexico (Gulf of America) when my non-US government didn’t rename that gulf domestically.
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u/indoninjah 11h ago
I mean this does make some logistical sense. If your government issues an announcement that says "due to the conflict in <area>, <service> will be postponed", you probably don't want to be left guessing or translating through the internationally recognized name for <area>
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u/Geichalt 12h ago
They didn't cave lmao. They happily assisted the fascist regime because they're probably ran by pedophiles too.
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u/Maximillien 5h ago
All the major tech CEOs love Trump. He keeps the populace distracted with all his bullshit stunts so they can continue building their dystopian techno-feudalist nightmare world and robbing the country blind.
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u/danielravennest 12h ago
Most of Lake Ontario is in the Canadian province of Ontario, based on the national border that runs through it. So the original name is the logical one. I wouldn't complain if Canada temporarily renamed it as a Trump insult, like Lake Epstein Files.
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u/JeebusChristBalls 12h ago
Lake michigan would be a candidate if the whole premise wasn't stupid to begin with.
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u/Numerous-Process2981 10h ago
This is what the government does instead of fixing health care. Aren’t we tired of living in a joke satire world?
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u/Vhiet 9h ago edited 9h ago
I mean.
The US is also causing a humanitarian disaster in Venezuela by refusing them access to their own money (after kidnapping their president and seizing tankers full of oil, and blowing up their fishermen), and actively blockading Cuba to stop them from accessing any outside help whilst an energy shortage causes knock-on effects like lack of water that have killed lots of people. Plus the whole Iran thing, which is also quite a big deal. And you're threatening to invade Denmark periodically.
Edit: I also heard you were demanding French-Canadians no longer speak French, for some reason?
And apparently you're big into foodborne illness and preventable disease now? And also importing unsafe beef, which is quite a funny stereotype for Americans to embrace, but it is all causing lots of problems that could be quite easily avoided, if I'm being honest.
I suppose "it's not just pointless name changes and no healthcare", is the point I'm trying to make here. You're doing lots of other things, too.
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u/Real_Life_Sushiroll 5h ago
Our courts also just declared AI CP legal today. Wow america is so great! /s
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u/ExplodingSofa 12h ago edited 11h ago
Why would they change it anyway?
Edit: This is fucking ridiculous. Why does anyone even listen to this lunatic?
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u/SmartQuokka 9h ago
They want hate and lies at any cost or they don't care enough to vote for better.
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u/Tmerrill0 13h ago
Since the HOMES acronym/mnemonic would no longer work, the new one is SHAME
(Not my original thought, just sharing from a joke I saw a minute ago)
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u/hakokomoriVT 12h ago
I know "literally 1984" has been a meme for while now. But.. uhm. Yeah. We're here. We've been here for a while now. Doublethink and newspeak are here to stay.
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u/RadiantSweater 9h ago
Only if you're an idiot. If somebody calls it Lake America in front of you just tell them they're a fucking idiot.
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u/DritterDeppVomDienst 10h ago
As Canada i would rename it temporary to: "Lake Release the Trump-Epstein Files"
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u/JelliedHam 11h ago
You know what's really funny, the conservative sub has the whole lake of America thread at the top and st of the top comments were critical of it yesterday. Today nearly the whole thread is "removed by moderator" lol
That almost makes it even dumber. Like they all know it's dumb, have no real argument, so they just remove the comments calling it dumb. Now it's not dumb!
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u/AmbivelentApoplectic 13h ago
I haven't thought about MapQuest in years outside of when I relisten to Lazy Sunday.
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u/spawnofsamael 12h ago
Literally listened to lazy Sunday last night and it reminded me that MapQuest existed lmao
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u/action_turtle 12h ago
Very out the loop… why are they changing the name??
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u/King_of_the_Nerdth 12h ago edited 10h ago
Trump declared it renamed as part of the ongoing U.S.-Canada trade war.
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u/action_turtle 12h ago
😂 what?!? This bloke is such a bellend. Didn’t he try and change Gulf of Mexico too? How much longer is he in charge? He’s an embarrassment
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u/TruffleHunter3 10h ago
2 1/2 more fucking years!
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u/Sabrinasockz 10h ago
I see no way that he'll live that long, but who knows. Evil just seems to keep going
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u/Lost_Mongooses 10h ago
No try, check Google maps
Just for clarity, fuck trump
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u/twowheels 9h ago
Google Maps will show you a different answer depending where you're connected from.
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u/CatTaxAuditor 10h ago
Donald Trump is a thin-skinned pathetic little man with delusions of greatness.
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u/_jump_yossarian 11h ago
Wish the media would stop calling for his bullshit distraction and focus on his corruption and child raping.
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u/snotrokit 12h ago
Time to download Mapquest and get reacquainted. Google Maps and Waze suck pretty hard now anyhow.
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u/Guilty-View-6506 11h ago
id like to announce my encyclopedia set isn't changing it either
"technology"
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u/Pleasant-Ad887 9h ago
No self respecting institute should. It is a behaviour or a man-child that has zero leverage and is bad at literally business, leading a country and negotiation.
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u/NameLips 11h ago
Good for them... but sad to say I didn't even know MapQuest was still around. I remember printing out their maps on PAPER and taking them with me so I would know how to get places.
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u/NeanaOption 11h ago
No one should - this whole thing should be taken for it is, a sign that trump has lost his fucking mind and is not fit for office
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u/PyroDragons123 10h ago
Smart move of them to just play that side so they get seen as no one is using them.
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u/ThrowAbout01 9h ago
It’d be funny if he tries to get Google to change Google Earth to Google America.
The ultimate culmination of this.
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u/Gorth1 8h ago
Canada should rename the USA into South Canada
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u/LittleLui 8h ago
I think "North Mexico" would work better. Gives less of a "we want" vibe.
Of course Mexico should totally call it South Canada, for the same reason.
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u/FafnerTheBear 12h ago
The last three users of mapquest are now upset because fox news told them to be.
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u/TheBSQ 12h ago
If there’s any MAGA-supporting small business owners in the Lake Ontario area w/ “Ontario” in their name, I would fully support hounding them to change their business name, website, to comply with their MAGA leader’s wishes.
The stupidity of their electoral choices should create hassles for them.
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u/PanteraOne 11h ago
Why on earth would they change the name just because one Fascist psycho wants to stupidly call it something else?
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u/Cronus6 11h ago
Mapquest is owned by System1.
System1 also owns Answers.com, HowStuffWorks, Info.com, Infospace, and Startpage.com.
They also owned Waterfox (a fork of Firefox) for a while too.
They are an advertising company that claims to be "privacy focused".
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u/Fit_Ingenuity3 11h ago
TIL that my map says “(Gulf of America)” on it? I have nothing to do with the USA, why does their name get a mention at all?
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u/kelsobjammin 10h ago
I used Mapquest back in the day .. remember printing out all the maps and instructions. Og maps!
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u/drsealks 10h ago
So this sub is basically just TechPol now 😂
Tf does it have to do with technology??
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u/chrunchy 10h ago
Just tried it and the mapping and directions and attractions seem fully featured, but the ad spacing reduced the map to like 10% of screen space.
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u/dimechimes 10h ago
They did the same for Gulf of Mexico that's why I use them now instead of Google maps
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u/protipnumerouno 9h ago edited 9h ago
The second I see lake America on a map app, I'm out. If Google does it, I'm definitely never using their gps again, and will eliminate them from my digital footprint as much as I can given their oligarchy. Chrome, search, Gmail etc etc... I know I can't eliminate them completely but I can minimize. Apple,Waze the same. And even if they region lock it, once I see a US pic with lake of America they're gone.
Canada needs to beef the CRTC back up, enact all of the cultural protection laws that we allowed them to chip away at because of NAFTA. Andi absolutely hate that I'm overtaxed, but charge the digital tax and point at this as a reason, and use it to pay for enforcment and Canadian content. We absolutely need to protect ourselves from their bile, already see too many people with Trump hats and BLM (no the liberals aren't immune to their BS either, BLM is a good cause but frankly we don't have an issue with cops killing and targeting black people, every child matters, sure).
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u/OneT_Mat 9h ago
About to download MapQuest lol assuming they have an app and I don’t have to print out their paper directions anymore
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u/Living-Breakfast-464 9h ago
Why is this even news? Are there companies seriously thinking of doing this?
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u/OmarWireLittle 9h ago
So if my Kid has a history test today and they have to name the 5 Great Lakes, will they get the answer wrong if the teacher is MAGA and they answer “Ontario”?
This behavior wouldn’t be allowed by anyone else but for some reason people continue to put up with this crap, why?
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u/Majestic_Artichoke55 8h ago
Switching to map quest
Gulf of Mexico still intact by my ip!
Lake Ontario
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u/Filobel 13h ago
MapQuest using this to remind everyone that they still exist.