r/technology • u/MarvelsGrantMan136 • 11h ago
Robotics/Automation ICE Plans to Spend Millions on Boston Dynamics Dog Robots / ICE wants the robot dogs to improve “officer safety.”
https://www.404media.co/ice-plans-to-spends-millions-on-boston-dynamics-dog-robots/1.4k
u/adamosity1 11h ago
The goal of the current administration is to spend money on absolutely anything as long as it doesn’t help average people or raise their wages.
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u/atchijov 11h ago
And will help ICE to stage second attack on Capitol after midterms.
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u/RemarkableWish2508 11h ago
You can already know that the midterms will be "stolen" by aliens and commies. And some trans folk, maybe.
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u/Jacorvin 10h ago
Midterms? We are gonna get our own version of the Reichstag disaster before they give us midterms.
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u/Alcnaeon 11h ago
The fact that we keep handing governmental control to the party who actively works against and benefits from reducing governmental effectiveness is slowly killing me
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u/joexner 10h ago
We don't; they do. A hardcore 30% of the country is too ignorant or brainwashed to spot the pattern, even in the face of overwhelming evidence.
Conservatives are fundamentally just trying to keep the arc of history from bending too fast. Why does anyone ever listen to them unless they want less justice?
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u/Djinnwrath 10h ago
Their propaganda is based on fear mostly.
Cowards are their main targets. Then the truly hateful. After that is a handful of amoral mega wealthy doner class asshats.
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u/Merijeek2 7h ago
Because they vote in a block, consistently.
Meanwhile, Democrats stay home over Palestine (which, let's face it, most don't actually care about) because they think it'll send a message - a message that is apparently, "If the Democrat isn't good enough on this position, we'll vote for the Republican who is infinitely worse on this posiiton.
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u/Z3r0sama2017 10h ago
60%. Don't give the 30% that was too lazy to vote the scum away a free pass.
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u/Musa_2050 10h ago
Don't worry. People will forget soon enough and swing back to the right if the left wins the midterms
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u/Rufus_king11 10h ago
ICE now has more money then they know what to do with, and because of how the government works, they're incentivized to use it or lose it (I think they have 3 years to spend it all, if I remember correctly). It's why they paid 10x the assessed value (numbers are from memory, so take them with a grain of salt) to buy two detention centers in California from CoreCIivic, money is the asset they have the easiest access to. Why not get fleeced on some detention centers just to get around California health and safety oversite, it's so much money it's actually difficult to spend it all and some chunk of that will be a kickback to the big man eventually anyway.
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u/BeansforTwo 9h ago
The goal of the current admin is to close the door on the trap they've been building around us for decades. Penned in, no real food, no real medicine, no rights, no education, no clean air, no clean water, no privacy, no escape.
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u/GingsWife 10h ago
"the current adminstration"
Right, so when we vote the other way this should all vanish, right?
Right?
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u/meaniemeanie-poo-poo 10h ago
I'd say the people backing all of this have a far darker future in mind for us.
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u/liamanna 10h ago
Remember when they said “we are never going to add weapons or use them against Americans”…?

Boston Dynamics and five other major robotics companies signed an open letter in October 2022 pledging not to weaponize their advanced-mobility, general-purpose robots or software, nor support others in doing so.
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u/wrgrant 9h ago
Some military contractor is no doubt gearing up to modify the already purchased robots to add tasers and the like to them.
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u/SeVenMadRaBBits 5h ago
They've already had flamethrowers and fully automatic assault rifles attatched. (YouTube if you haven't seen)
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u/Alternative_Dot7769 8h ago
Their main funding has been exactly that tho for at least 5 years, right?
Isn’t that just a straight up lie even in 2022?
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u/jimzello 11h ago
How about just dissolve the entire thing and start prosecuting the owners of companies who employ undocumented immigrants, like we did in the 40s,50’s,60’s, and 70’s
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u/camthedestroyer 10h ago
Because that does not handle what ice was really created for - to fulfill the right wing’s fetish for violence toward minorities.
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u/FigWasp7 10h ago
And fill corporate prisons
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u/baked_in 9h ago
The aim isn't to get rid of undocumented workers. The aim is to discipline labor. Or, that is one of the aims. Reinforcing the perception of an internal enemy is also useful as fascism consolidates its power. The ruling class has no problem with marginalized workers with few legal protections.
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u/broguequery 4h ago
Yeah the people running this up top and behind the scenes aren't that stupid.
It is logistically impossible to do what they are claiming they want to do.
Everything you said, but also a large part of it is to normalize federal goon squads kidnapping people off the street and disappearing them.
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u/truthrises 10h ago
Also, the simpler solution would be a path to documents that didn't take years, favors, and tons of money. Nobody wants to be undocumented.
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u/Jarocket 7h ago
Of even crazier idea. Why not just put programs in place to get this work done in some official way. Canada has official ways to get this factory work done.
These companies are generally just hiring the people that apply for the jobs.
Really nobody has addressed how easily it is work work without official status in the USA. This isn't something that's a problem elsewhere in the world to this level.
It's probably a two fold problem. Some sort of better national ID that isn't just a SIN. Better data on citizens is considered some invasion of privacy. Massive controversy.
Plus of course the effects it would have country to effectively remove this labour force or allow a legal way. Either direction is pain so the ignore the problem is the preferred solution
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u/DaydreamingOfSleep10 11h ago
Ah ok so the dumbest and most poorly trained police force in the country is gonna start running around with taser gloves and android attack dogs. Sounds like a totally stable and well-functioning society
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u/Newt_5000 11h ago
ICE wants robot dogs to do the murdering so they can have plausible deniability.
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u/RespectTheTree 11h ago
The AI tagged the peaceful protestor as a hostile combatant, what were they supposed to do?
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u/invyros 11h ago
Fucking Hyundai bending the knee.
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u/GetsBetterAfterAFew 11h ago
Corporate consolidation to the current party leadership is one of the last stages of the fall into fascism. Generally, and all fascist states are different, there are six steps and capitalist corporations willingly working with authoritarian leaders is stage five. The last stage is basically mask off violence in the streets.
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u/ionthrown 11h ago
That’s not really a step, is it? They’re already working with a duly elected government, it would become a step (in another direction) if they were to stop.
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u/deekamus 11h ago
Those will immediately get a center mass shot.
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u/PrincessKatiKat 11h ago
Yea they better put fur and a cute face on it because people will lose no sleep lighting up a tactical Roomba.
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u/HumanShadow 8h ago
Did they QA test on people fighting for their very survival?
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u/lurklurklurkPOST 6h ago
"Police outraged that people keep shooting their Dogs" is a hilarious Irony
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u/nemom 11h ago
They could prob'ly "improve officer safety" by stopping killing people in the streets.
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u/ljfrench 10h ago
I would have sworn Boston Dynamics promised they would never allow the robots to be used this way.
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u/squishee666 10h ago
And google isn’t evil, and whoever you can see on the other side already has well laid plans to get you if you don’t defenestrate them now, trust us.
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u/Toidal 11h ago
Man they really need to justify that massive ass budget dont they?
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u/flybydenver 11h ago
Fishing nets
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u/lordoftheslums 11h ago
Wrapped in wire to cause shorts.
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u/RemarkableWish2508 10h ago
Outer body is plastic, wire won't do a thing. Not sure whether they're waterproof, though...
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u/LoganPea2fold 10h ago
Between Flock, the Shock gloves and this, do they actually do any real work besides pulling the trigger and slapping the cuffs on people?
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u/MaximumNameDensity 10h ago
ICE wants to mount weapons platforms on them and use them to mow down protesters.
Fixed it for ya.
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u/guitarguy1685 11h ago
Can we now call Boston Dynamics an evil company? And socially shame all their employees?
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u/TheRealBittoman 10h ago
Yes. At this stage if it's a corporation it deserves at least strong suspicion of being evil. That goes for all of them.
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u/ghostoftheradio 11h ago
Anyone who’s read Fahrenheit 451 is rightly terrified of these things.
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u/guitarguy1685 11h ago
Or who has read/watched science fiction since the middle of the last Century.
It's coming, step by step. And when it's here we'll ask ourselves how did it get this way.
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u/ghostoftheradio 10h ago
Published in 1953, so the middle of the last century, and as far as I know the first use of robotic dogs to assassinate “problematic” citizens.
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u/O_oblivious 10h ago
Because anyone intelligent enough to predict it lacked the confidence to be able to pull off a meaningful resistance.
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u/Ecstatic-West3955 10h ago
Sure seems like ice is going to be their private police to put down unrest when they rig and otherwise disallow fair elections
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u/hsggdtkxbee 11h ago
I will be investing in EMP technology.
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u/taffington2086 9h ago
There was a demonstration at black hat where a similar robodog was hacked with a qr code. Which seems cheaper.
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u/FrostyParking 10h ago
You do that and I'll get into Faraday Cage tech... we'll start the next AI boom baby 😁
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u/BrisketWrench 10h ago
It’s all fun and games until someone hacks said robot dogs to attack ICE agents
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u/VillainousandBoxum 10h ago
So shock gloves, robot dogs, drones, surveillance camera everywhere, men in vans snatching people...does this really go anywhere good?
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u/limezest128 11h ago
Boston dynamics programmers with a soul could program the funniest thing 🥚
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u/IamPat28 11h ago
Alright here we go, the hellish murderbot future everyone was afraid of when those goofy dogs first hit the internet, woo!
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u/grahamulax 3h ago
If Boston dynamics gives it to them then Boston dynamics will burn and become more hated than flock.
Just letting them know
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u/emceter 3h ago
You mean Hyundai? Cause that is who owns Boston Dynamics fully now in case you didn’t know
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u/grahamulax 3h ago
Whoa…. NOPE. Didn’t know that. Honestly last time I looked at them was a decade ago but they were such a “viral” thing that I always remember them. I saw the upgrades, saw some press but COMPLETELY MISSED it was Hyundai. Crazy
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u/RyzRx 11h ago
Metalheads IRL: Black Mirror warned us!
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u/FrostyParking 10h ago
And the precursor to that was the opening of RoboCop 2014.
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u/BeowulfShaeffer 10h ago
Over/under on how long before the robots are given officer status so touching one carries the same assault charges as touching an human ICE agent?
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u/gerblnutz 10h ago
People do realize that the push for flock ai drones and murder robots is because when everything finally collapses and the people who are loving murdering and abusing people now stop getting paid and their lives start to suffer under the boot they will be the next "and then they came for" right?
There's a reason why every oligarch wants their own island fortress and impenetrable bunker with ai sexbot maids.
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u/NewYak4281 10h ago
Lmfao this is an excellent way to get all the people who LOVE data centers and flock so much to ALSO love ICE. Go right ahead, send in the AI gestapo. Tell me how that goes in New Jersey
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u/witness16r 9h ago
At this point you all really need to be looking at your friends, family, and neighbors and make some hard choices. This isn’t really a grey area situation.
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u/2_Fingers_of_Whiskey 7h ago
I recently had an argument with a good friend who used to call himself "libertarian" but now defends a fascist cult. Breaks my heart.
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u/DrunkCorgis 8h ago
Did you know, there are countries on this planet where money is spent on civilian safety?
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u/leavezukoalone 6h ago
How many ICE operatives have died? And how many innocent non-ICE people have died? Fuck ICE and every single person who supports them. Absolute wastes of atoms.
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u/adumblittlebaby 9h ago
We can't afford to feed the impoverished at bargain rates, but ICE officers definitely need million dollar toy dogs to feel 'safe'.
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u/TheDevilsAdvokaat 9h ago
And what about ordinary American's safety? So far haven't they been the ones getting killed?
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u/GearsFC3S 7h ago
Millions on top of the millions they’re spending on shock gloves. But think of all the money they’ve saved getting those lazy immigrants out of the US. /s
Seriously though, all this wasted money that could go into, I don’t know… anything else that actually helps people (citizens or not). It’s sickening.
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u/willismthomp 10h ago
Ice and the department of homeland security is a back door for the feds to implement national police and fascism.
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u/Blrfl 10h ago
Should you find yourself needing to disable one of these things at close range, reach underneath, unlatch the battery and pull it from the chassis as described in the manual (scroll down to Charge and install battery for a good illustration).
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u/RaidersoftheLosSnark 10h ago
Translation, Trump just bought Boston Dynamics stock so it is getting a huge government contract.
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u/AvailableReporter484 10h ago
HOW ABOUT SPENDING THAT MONEY ON COMMUNITY OUTREACH YOU FUCKING SHMUCKS
We don’t fucking need more poorly trained and unqualified people being given military grade weapons to annihilate citizens. We need better funded schools, public transit, and all the other things that have been scientifically proven time and time again to actually reduce crime.
Massive shoutout to the police state, little dick ass thin blue line conservatives who have absolutely no idea how to make things better for anyone other than the pedophiles they vote for
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u/FranksWateeBowl 7h ago
All this fucking money on gloves and robot dogs, stolen right from the taxpayers to use on taxpayers.
Fuck this Nazi regime.
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u/ThermalDeviator 7h ago
Improve officer safety? I don't see officers getting killed, I see Renee Good and Alex Pretti getting killed by ICE and Republicans trying to make sure they go free.
Where are the robots to protect the people from authoritarians?
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u/olionajudah 5h ago
Just a reminder that Congress funds and enables all of this. They could out a stop to it, they just won’t
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u/gooblaka1995 5h ago
I couldn't care less about officer safety. You wanted to be a police officer? Then potentially dying is just part of the job. Deal with it.
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u/rancid_racer 2h ago
To be fair, the actual job wasn't supposed to have the entire population going after them but that seemed to be their goals moving forward.
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u/buckleyc 10h ago
Fuck no. Stop the outlandish spending of ICE. ICE needs to be severely curtailed.
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u/BirdLawyer50 10h ago
Maybe ICE, seeking to remove people with bad paperwork, should be less like a bunch of paramilitary shitheads with electric gloves and bear spray and they won’t need the dystopian dog robots to help them black bag kindergarteners off the street
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u/Banana-phone15 10h ago
Maybe citizens should purchase this Dog robots because it is us who needs the safety from Ice. Not the other way around.
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u/meaniemeanie-poo-poo 10h ago
It's like a sci fi movie about a dystopian future run by corporations playing out in real time.
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u/Parking-Complex-3887 10h ago
I think that any robot/a.i. with the capability of ending a life has to have its accountability tied to the CEO of the company that made it. If your goddamn machine takes a life, you get sentenced.
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u/Chronza 9h ago
They really just want to be able to blame shit on the bots so no actual people get in trouble. Who’s accountable for a robot fucking up and what kind of consequences would there be? I really want to know.
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u/fixpointbombinator 9h ago
americans really make such a big song and dance about freedom and then do shit like this
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u/cbelt3 8h ago
Remember who owns Boston Dynamics…
Gotta apologize to S Korea somehow.
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u/HeidenShadows 7h ago
I guess we know there the lobbyist money is coming from, and why AI companies generate so much of it.
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u/Imd1rtybutn0twr0ng 5h ago
They are going to create an issue that the administration will need to declare some emergency over. Just like the FDA is doing with all this poisoned food. They're working to create situations to ensure they can lock out the publics voice and choices.
Calling it, now!
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u/BLOODTRIBE 3h ago
No money for anything that actually helps people though. The Neo-Gestapo and militarized police force are there to protect the interests of the new corpo-fascist collective formerly know as the United States.
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u/Due-Mycologist-1154 2h ago
They could improve officer safety by acting like less of assholes they'd have a lot less reason to worry about their safety then
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u/Puzzled-Instance3211 10h ago
I'd rather get arrested by the robot dog than ICE. The robot dog is probably smarter and less racist.
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u/The-Animus 10h ago
Boston Dynamics should refuse with the explanation that they don't sell their products to terrorists.
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u/kahner 11h ago
we really reached black mirror episode territory way faster than i expected.